How bad is childbirth.. really?

Oka - posted on 11/01/2012 ( 641 moms have responded )

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How bad is childbirth... really?



MEDICATED childbirth.



I have ZERO interest in natural childbirth. ZERO. None. I will not do that.



I want all the medication and epidurals possible.



How awful is a first time MEDICATED childbirth?



Is it an absolute nightmare, even with meds and epidural?



Do you feel like you're being hit by a semi truck? A terrible flu level of pain? Or is it not as awful with epidural and pain meds?



I know everyone says "one you see the baby, it's worth it." Sure, but just how PAINFUL is a medicated childbirth during the process? Is it so painful it's traumatic? Is it unbearable and so painful you feel like you won't make it? Is it somehow not so bad?



Does the medication help enough that it's not the worst pain of your life?

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User - posted on 11/13/2012

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I had an epidural with my first son and I just want to warn you that whilst an epidural certainly makes the birth less painful, please don't think it will be pain free because it won't. You can't have an epidural until a certain point, you will have to feel contractions before, plus an epidural doesn't work every time. Childbirth is painful either way but yes, it is worth it.

Paula - posted on 11/13/2012

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Not really painful like menustral cramps. More hard work at the end. And my first took 28 hours

Deborah Ridgely - posted on 11/13/2012

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Honestly, the worst pain was after the labor for me. I had torn a little, and the ob stitched me up. I think the local anesthetic didn't work and I felt all the stitching which was worse than the actual birth. Yes, labor was an intense pain, but it doesn't last forever, thankfully! I have endured open heart surgery and injuries to knee and ankles which were worse. But remember: no pain, no gain. And the pain lets you know you're ALIVE. And, what doesn't kill you makes you STRONGER.

Cherry - posted on 11/13/2012

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I had two natural child births. Yest they really hurt. The bigger the baby the harder the body seemed to have to work to get the baby out. Not just the pushing, that gets easier with every kid, well not easier but shorter. I had a 3 lb baby 1st then a 7 lb 5 years later. The second contractions were so much more intense but the labor was shorter, I just wanted to jump out of my body it hurt so much.



But I chose natural because it is better for baby, and I was afraid of the "big needle" in my back. The big needle can cause pain too and it doesn't erase all of the pain. Some people love the epidural and some don't.



It's your decision and don't let anyone change your mind.



Every baby and every body is different. Get all your info and make your decision.



Also I think the hit by a truck feeling is from pushing and the epidural won't help push the baby out. It's your muscles in your legs and abdomen and lungs and back and arms that will hurt from the pushing, not the contractions. I think the "big needle" is for the contractions.



Either way it is uncomfortable.



And speaking as an "experienced mom" of older kids now, that labor pain is nothing compared to the pain of parenthood! haha



Good luck Girl, enjoy every moment of it, even the pains because it is really a miraculous time.

User - posted on 11/13/2012

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It will hurt, everyone has their scare stories, and their joy stories. After the baby is born, all the pain goes away, yes there is healing time, get up and move as soon as you can to speed healing, but don't over do it and rest too.

For labor and everything else in life, breathe in deep through the nose, and out through pursed(slightly open) lips, it works great for pain and stress.

You will do just fine, enjoy your pregnancy, and after, you will have a precious baby you would do anything for.

User - posted on 11/13/2012

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I had my son using an epidural. NO PAIN AT ALL. It wore off just avtad, but I asked the dr for stronger meds, so they gave it to me and I didnt feel a thing! Just sore afterwards. But not bad at all.

Meenakshi - posted on 11/13/2012

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Hey dear, I would like to share my experience. Its my first pregnancy. Every one was saying go for natural birth and all that stuff what you can't even bear at your pregnancy. But I never reacted towards them i keep on listening and off course I was sharing other mom's experience who gave birth few months ago. Most of them go through C section. But they said they did wrong decision, they should have gone for natural birth because of after effects of C- section. Well I talk to my GP she helped me, saying go for natural birth coz i was healthy enough to give birth.

I made my mind and go for natural birth. I m not scaring u. It was very painful, throughout that pain I keep on walking and doing situps in order to give birth.

I always felt that I m mentally strong and nothing let me down, helps me alot to give birth and bear that pain. I m not suggesting u anything but saying make up ur mind whatever u feel right for u do it. Its for your baby. Go through books and articles and positive thoughts dear.

And above all BE POSITIVE.

Deborah Ridgely - posted on 11/13/2012

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You must have a very low tolerance for pain or you wouldn't worry so much. Sure, the options are out there. Medicate if you feel the need. I successfully had three vag. births and survived them just fine without any epidurals. I have MANY friends who did home births with a midwife and claimed the experience was wonderful, although for medical reasons I chose a hospital. Please don't be so worried, you will be fine! And after you are through it, not only will you have your own story to tell, you will see that you are much tougher than you thought! You can do it, honey!

Janice - posted on 11/13/2012

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It's pretty bad! The epidural does not stay at full strength the whole time through, it begins to wear off. Labor pains when you are near full dilation are much, much worse than any period cramps I've ever felt - even those in which you're in the fetal position. The type of pain is similar, but the severity is way worse. If you're lucky enough to push that child out before much of the epidural has worn off, good for you! They will refill the pain meds in the epidural if you're running out and delivery is still a far way off. I've had multiple surgeries and chronic spinal issues and childbirth was the worst pain of them all. Just being honest. I still did it twice:)

Zoe - posted on 11/13/2012

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i had pethadin, epidural and morphine and something else and it was agonizing but she got twisted round the back of my un diolated cervix and i got induced, i never want another i chucked my self of the bed chucked the monitor of me and was screaming, i couldnt cope, then i got nerve damage of the epidural because i had a contraction just as it was going in!!!

Erika - posted on 11/13/2012

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I gave birth twice. First time medicated and second time natural. It was more painful and took much longer to heal and feel better with the medicated birth by far! Endless too. Second birth was quick and felt amazing. It did hurt but sooo much less and I recovered very quickly. Neither experience were the most painful event. Dental work is much worse. Don't worry about it, it is what it is. If it were that bad there wouldn't be so many of us!

Lissa - posted on 11/13/2012

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I had my first son naturally with no medication because he came out very quickly. I was only in childbirth for about an hour. The pain of the delivery hurt like hell but since it was so quick I didn't have the pains that one normally has every few minutes.



With my second child I had the epidural and didn't feel a thing. It was wonderful! No pain, they had to tell me when to push. I was in labor about 8 hours.



For my last child I was in labor about 9 hours before I rec'd an epidural but it was too late. My daughter was born before the epidural started to work and I felt every bit of the next 2 hours. If I had to do it all over again, I would have an epidural each time.

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3 births... First was 15.5 hr and at the very end the nurse gave me half dose of narcotics "because I needed rest" and I went from in control to feeling very sick, dizzy and kept falling asleep between contractions. There was NO time to close my eyes because I delivered my baby 30 min later-no epidural. The narcotics do NOTHING for pain.

Second was induced and took 21.5 hours and I gave in at 7 cm for the epidural. It took the doctor SO long to get the thread in my spine and it hurt! Worst part was being SO exhausted and weak I couldn't hold myself up for the epidural. It didn't kick in quick enough. My toes went numb as I was on my last push.

Third was 6 hours, 100% natural and AMAZING! Sure there was pain, but it was by far better than the second birth.

Hope this helps

Katie - posted on 11/12/2012

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Thanks Patti! You have an awesome story! I enjoyed The Business of Being Born, but I haven't read Supernatural Childbirth- I'll have to check that out.

Patti - posted on 11/12/2012

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Katie

Awesome post. I totally agree. I took Bradley with my second birth and it was amazing. I wish I would've had it with my first child because it would've probably been natural instead of a c-section. My VBAC with my 2nd child (a girl) was so wonderful because of Bradley. I highly recommend it to any pregnant woman + watch "The Business of Being Born" & read "Supernatural Childbirth".

Carmen - posted on 11/12/2012

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It's honestly not that bad. I was in labor for 12 hours and slept through most of it. All I remember was sucking on ice chips and watching Young and the Restless.

Nikki - posted on 11/12/2012

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I had my son with no drugs at all. Labor was painful I won't lie. I was in hard labor for about 6 hours and pushed for 2.5 hours before he finally came out. However if I would've had an epideral I would've had to have a c section. You see I actually had to get out of bed and sit on a birthing stool since he was "stuck". Had I had an epideral I wouldn't have been able to get up and do that. Even after all the trauma he was very alert and was looking around the room right after he was born. The pain was tolerable and totally worth it.

Rebecca - posted on 11/12/2012

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WOW...Every woman is different and every pregnancy is different. Neither time I had the epidural for fear of more back issues . My first son took awhile and I had HORRIBLE back labor that pain meds could not relieve. He was turned the wrong way and the dr could not get him to turn. the second son was relatively "easy" as I went from being dilated 3 to 10 within 5 minutes. He took about 4 hours where the first son took about 9. I remember both being painful (the contractions are the worst part) but 16 and 13 years later, I seriously don't "remember" the pain.

Katie - posted on 11/12/2012

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I understand that you have zero interest in natural childbirth, but why are you so quick to rule it out? I think many women rule out natural childbirth because they're afraid of pain. I was afraid of pain, I had no idea what it was going to be like- I'd never done it before. My mom had me naturally though, and she was my inspiration to look into it. What I learned after some research was that medicated and epidural childbirths are longer, harder, and hurt more than natural childbirth. That's a fact. I ended up taking Bradley Method classes and felt very prepared for birth and wasn't afraid at all. I wasn't even afraid when I was on my way to the hospital! I had my son naturally and hardly tore and healed very quickly...I don't think the outcome would have been the same if I had opted to take the epidural.



I cannot say enough good things about the Bradley Method. Maybe pick up a copy of the book Husband Coached Childbirth by Dr. Robert Bradley and just give it a chance. The book explains very well how pain meds and epidurals work against the natural process and also make you question the safety of them. Why is it that all throughout pregnancy you aren't supposed to take any medication/drugs, but when it comes to childbirth it is suddenly okay to take all kinds of drugs? There are no studies that can prove any of those drugs given in labor and delivery are safe- who would sign up to participate in the study?



Also, people that say that childbirth was the worst pain they've ever had even with an epidural haven't experienced what it is like without the epidural. From my birth experience (and I'm not a person with a high pain tolerance or anything like that) I can tell you that it was hard work, I don't think I could have done it had I not been prepared from my Bradley classes, it hurt some, but certainly not as much as I expected it to hurt.



Just a thought...

Brittany - posted on 11/12/2012

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I got the epi before contractions got too bad and it was awesome! I was in labor a full 24 hours, almost to the minute... Without the epi I would not have had the energy to push, so it was a life saver for me. The epi itself does not hurt much, just a pinch and burning sensation. It's more scary than anything else and remember at that point you're more worried of getting the baby out of you than any pain you're in. Unfortunately my epi was leaking so by the time it came to stitching me back up I felt every single stitch and pull. THAT was unbearable for me to the point I could not concentrate on the baby in my arms and they had to take her away for a bit. Birth itself is more uncomfortable than painful with the epi. Like you gotta take the biggest poop ever and youre constipated. Overall not THAT bad. If it were there'd be a lot less ppl on this earth!

Maranda - posted on 11/11/2012

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when i got the epidural, it just felt like a hornet sting. but it goes away.. i got a ringing in my ears, which the anesthesiologist said was quite normal. but after you get the medicine it's so much easier. you cannot get paralized by it either. as long as the dr knows what he/she is doing you'll be fine. (: when the medicine kicks in you dnt feel a thing, you just feel the urge to push.. it is all worth it after you see the little one.

Mekia91080 - posted on 11/11/2012

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Both of mine were natural. My first was pretty long while my second happened with just a blink of the eye! The doctor barely made it in the room when she decided to make her appearance, 3 1/2 weeks early!! I've heard water birthing helps with any "pains" of labor. I myself choose to not have any drugs what so ever. I wanted the full pain and pleasure of having my lil girls and I wouldn't of had it any other way!

Carol Louise - posted on 11/11/2012

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I never had an epoidural until I had my hystorectomy and bladder repair and that was in1988 that I had that done and was told that would last 10 years I was 38 years old at the time and I just turned 63 and will be have bladder repair again .

Cathy - posted on 11/11/2012

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some of us weren't given a chance about the epidural.....my baby came down so hard and so fast he ruptured my cervix and i had no choice..the pain was UNBEARABLE...which lead to the epidural..its not a choice in all cases

Kathy - posted on 11/10/2012

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i can't believe all of the posts where an epidural was used...like it is an automatic procedure when giving birth. i think that is sad for the mom and baby, but really good for the doctor, hospital and big pharma companies. geez.

Carol Louise - posted on 11/10/2012

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That is a fact about the meditating and I have also learned that the lamaze breathing exercises help through a lot of things too .

Arreyn - posted on 11/10/2012

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Mine labor was induced, so I started out in the hospital. They gave me the meds to start the process at 4pm; within the hour I started feeling the contractions. They came in a few stages, so I'll break it down: (and keep in mind, I didn't take any pain meds or sedative until stage four).

Stage one: period/gas type cramps-- mostly pressure with a little ache, some sharpness to it here or there.



Stage two: definitely sharp, radiating up and down my abdomen. Taking deep breaths. I was on the phone with my mom through this stage, and I was able to completely hide that I was in pain at all (I didn't want her to get all mom-like and come up to the hospital) and just keep talking.



Stage three: I could see the contractions coming on the monitor, and trying to stay in a positive mindset, I started going "Wheeee!" like I was on a roller coaster, when I really wanted to start whimpering and biting the pillow. The nurse was in the room once when I did it, and she must have thought I was crazy, but it helped.



Stage four: I really DID whimper and bite on the pillow with every contraction, curling up on my side and trying to breathe through the sharp, clenching, stabbing feeling. Some constant pressure and aching between each sharp contraction. After about an hour or two of this, trying to fall asleep (because by this time it was about midnight and dad-to-be had fallen asleep on the couch already), I gave in and asked the nurse for some pain meds.



Stage five: After the sedative, the contractions were the same as they were in stage four, but I didn't feel the pressure and pain in between. I was able to fall asleep between contractions (I think she gave me a sedative rather than a painkiller), but still woke up for each contraction. I'm not sure I would recommend this: I ended up feeling very dazed and woozy, woke up confused and distressed with every contraction, and don't remember much of the rest of the night.



Stage six: they told me I was about ready to push, and gave me the epidural. Now, with the localized anesthetic they injected first, all I felt with the epidural was pressure. By this point, the contractions were so bad all I did while they put in the epidural was hug the nurse or a pillow, whichever was available.



Stage seven: now, creating a separate stage for this implies that the pain got worse-- that's misleading. After the epidural (which started working almost immediately), I was numb from the waist down. I didn't feel any more contractions. They asked me how I felt, and I told them honestly, so they actually put me on hold, so to speak, and let me nap for about two hours while the doctors changed shifts.



Pushing: this was the last part, but again, with the epidural, all I felt was pressure. They had me pull my legs up (I needed the nurse and dad-to-be to help me, because they were so numb, if I couldn't see them I would have sworn I didn't have legs) and push in threes. My biggest concern was that I wasn't pushing hard enough, because it felt like nothing. I tore, but only enough to need about three stitches. Ten pushes in, my little boy popped out. He was normal sized (at least in my family) he was 7lbs 8 oz, and I'm 5 feet tall, so neither of us was disproportionately large or small.



Moral of the (long) story: it honestly wasn't bad at all for me. I've felt way worse pain with broken bones. So I hope this counteracts a lot of the horror stories I'm sure you're hearing. Best of luck!

Chantal - posted on 11/10/2012

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I am an Acupuncturist and I specialize in pregnancy. I see a lot of mom's to help get there labors started. I will tell you, those who I see who have a lot of anxiety around the whole idea of their births and who are unable to ground themselves, tend to have painful prolonged labors. It is so important for you to prepare yourself mentally. Just as another woman posted. It is one day out of your life. That is what got me through my labor, the idea that this pain will not go on forever. Learn some meditation techniques and learn to ground yourself. It will not only benefit your birth but also many other areas of your life.

Ruth - posted on 11/10/2012

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PS there is nothing wrong with c-sections if a Mum wants it and Mum or baby are in danger, I just didn't want to have to deal with the recovery of a c-section as it is major surgery.

Ruth - posted on 11/10/2012

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I have had two labours - both back to back. I didn't fancy having a needle stuck in my back for an epidural and a friend had advised me not to have one as she's had tingling sensations in her back for over 4 years since having her baby. Also, as a teenager and in my 20's have had painful periods and not found anything which worked to get rid of the pain other than ibuprofen (which you can't have in labour). In my birth plan I wrote that I didn't want morphine, an epidural or c-section.



First labour for baby Anya was estimated at being less than 5 hours. Midwives didn't think I was in labour as my contractions were irratic. They gave me co-codamol as pain relief.They advised I get examined as baby's heart rate was dipping after each contraction. Was relieved to find that I was 9 1/2 cm on the first examination! The pain was mostly in my back, like intense period pains..... Pushing stage wasn't too bad (about an hour) and did it on gas and air which I found helped with controlling the breathing. Had a fantastic midwife who was really positive and told me to concentrate on pushing and not to waste my energy screaming or making noise. Would say the worst thing was stitching afterwards as I tore a bit and had difficulty with the after birth. Healed really well afterwards. Anya was 7 lb 2.



Second labour I went into hospital early on as needed antibiotics during labour. Had an approx 12 hour labour, on gas and air only. Baby Zara was 9 lb 6, in an awkward twisted position back to back so all of the labour pains were in my back again. For the first few hours, I paced up and down the room and used a ball to try to help with the labour. Then the midwives kept going on about pain relief which I wasn't interested in (didn't fancy morphine) . After a few hours, I used gas and air. Again, midwives didn't know what was going on and about 1 1/2 hours into pushing stage, consultant instructed that I had to stop pushing so baby would come down naturally (as baby wasn't coming down the birth canal). Altogether had a 2 1/2 hour second stage. Drs were about to do an assisted delivery but I was determined to get baby out (was really scared that I'd have to have a c-section) and got baby out within about 10 min of her finally getting down the birth canal. The Drs had cut me and I tore - not surprising as when Zara came out, her head was in front of her face and she had a big head (ha ha). Was lucky as Zara coped really well with the labour herself - she was chilled throughout with a really steady heart rate which made it much easier for me to decide what to do and not worry about it taking a while. Can't deny that it was painful and also tiring. I found again that gas and air helped me to focus. If I hadn't had the gas and air, I have no doubt that Zara would have been a c-section as I would not have coped as well.



Every labour is different and you have to do whatever is best for you. There's no right or wrong way. Try not to worry about the experiences of others. Hope all goes well :)

Cathy - posted on 11/10/2012

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My first time in Labor was pretty easy.......I was in labor all day..didn't even really know it til the contractions hit...Then i'm not going to lie..it hurts..its like menstrual cramps times 100..i was terrified but made it through with the help of my mom and husband..The epidural was my savior.......once the contractions started..i had my son 5 hours later..you will be fine..Good luck

User - posted on 11/10/2012

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No. It is Not a nightmare. For some reason when you get pregnant everyone feels the need to tell you about the worst stoies imaginable. Its not that bad. Yes it hurts but it's only one day out of your whole life. and the second its over.....it's bliss. I know you probaly don't belive that but as soo as my son came out I forgot about everything that just happened.

Personaly I did do a natual child birth. Everyone is differant.

If you are planing on getting an epidural then you will be numb from the waste down anyways.

you will just have to deal with the contractions until you are dialated enough to get it.

And the contractions during your first stages of labour arn't that bad.

I'm sure you will do great. On a side note I would think every carfully about who you alow in the room with you. That alone can help with your pain and comfort :)

Carol Louise - posted on 11/10/2012

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One way to ease the contraction is doing the breathing exercise pant then breath slowly that really helps

Casey - posted on 11/09/2012

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My mother described the contractions to be like a chainsaw being set loose inside you. That was about right. When I had my epidural I no longer felt pain. After that the worst part was pushing because I was so numb. It just made me exhausted. My advice to you is don't worry so much about it. You'll make yourself sick over worrying. I'm not going to lie, it hurts. But, itll be fine.

Sarah - posted on 11/09/2012

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ive herd a lot of bad stories bout the epidural I never had and never will im about to have my 5th child and all my births were natural I had a lot of complications with my boys and was 2 weeks ova with my daughter but the only thing I did have was the gas it didn't do much so I didn't have it for the rest but after all the pain and pushing and u hold that bundle of joy in ur arms its the best feeling :D

Lana - posted on 11/09/2012

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I gave birth on the 6th. LOL!! I just answered this question not to long ago and now I have a straight answer for you. Early labor didn't really hurt me at all. Active labor didn't either. I was pacing my living room trying to figure out if this was the "pain" everyone talks about. By the time I got to the hospital I was already 5 cm. I could tolerate the discomfort by talking to the nurses and my husband, however when I got to 6 cm I couldn't take it anymore! I got the epidural(PAINLESS) and then I could relax. THe numbness was a little funny feeling, but the nurse had me rotate occasionally to be sure my epidural was even. Active labor lasted about 5 hours. Finally when I was 10cm it was time to push. I felt no pain, just pressure. I pushed my 6.9 ounce daughter in 20 minutes, NOT exaggerating. The nurses and my doctor were so surprised. I did tear(2nd degree laceration), but the after pain was very bearable with a mild pain killer. The only thing that actually HURT was sitting down. My stitches were so sore. Other than that child birth was a wonderful and pleasant experience.

Carol Louise - posted on 11/09/2012

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That is a normal feeling when pregnant with the first baby I was 24 years old when I had my first baby and had the same feeling as you have now .

Chantal - posted on 11/09/2012

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i'm glad someone asked the question was a good read on everyones different opinions im due to have my first in Feb and also scared about the pain of child birth reading all these replies have helped a lil but also made me a lil more nervous at same time

Shannon - posted on 11/09/2012

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I had a 100% natural childbirth. This was my first baby. I went through my whole pregnancy knowing I did not want any drugs/epidural. I wanted to have it as natural as possible. Knowing that, I did lots of research on ways to help ease the pain. I got lots of good answers and I think because of that, it wasn't horrible. There was pain of course, but not unbearable. Because I had taken classes and did lots of research I knew how things work and what can go wrong. I found that with taking a drug, a chain of events can happen... you take a drug to help ease the pain, but then with that your contractions slow... then they give you another drug to increase your contractions and then the pain is unbearable so most then choose the epidural. I hired a Doula and that was the best decision ever! Help me and my hubby alot. They know alot of different positions, massages, ect to help ease the pain.

I guess I will try and preach the whole "natural birth" to anyone instead of going straight for the drugs. These drugs affect BABY too.... This was my #1 reason for not wanting any drugs.

Our bodies are designed to know what to do during childbirth. The less interventions, the better! Let your body do it's job ;) Best of luck.

Brenda - posted on 11/09/2012

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I really liked the laughing gas I got with my 2nd! Just don't forget to breathe! It was too late for me to get the 'pain pump' that I had with my 1st, although you can't use the pain pump when delivering, at least that's what I remember.. It's true though, once you see your baby, it's a nice distraction of the pain,

I still felt pain with the 'afterbirth'..

Lynn - posted on 11/09/2012

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Reading these posts, it is obvious that it it is,hopefully, about informed choice. We all make our own decisions,that is what human nature is about.

Jennifer - posted on 11/09/2012

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I have 4 children and have had a epidural with all. I felt no pain whatsoever. When I had each of them I never felt drugged or out of it at all. The only thing with my last baby I had a spinal headache because of the epi and that was very painful.

Nicole - posted on 11/09/2012

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i had 2 girls my first daughter i was in labor for 2 hours and my 2nd she keep coming and then stoping so they broke my water and i had her not even a hour later... I got the epy tho for my 2nd. my first i didnt feel contractions

Carol Louise - posted on 11/09/2012

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Wow that was a long time as I was very fortunate the twins pop out quickly as so did my last single birth baby

Tori - posted on 11/08/2012

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I was lucky with my son. I had 1 epidural and didn't feel any contractions or the birth and i was in labor for 20 hours.

Emilee - posted on 11/08/2012

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I thought it was more scary the 2nd time because I knew what to expect. But it's like when you get a paper cut it hurts, and it keeps hurting... It even a migraine it hurts and hurts and hurts, when labor is over, you're sore for sure, and uncomfortable for a week but the big pain is over as soon as that baby comes out. After that I feel like the postpartum healing doesn't hurt as bad because you just gave birth and nothing's as bad as that. So forever for the rest of your life when you jam ur toe, or bump ur head or whatever, you'll never really think or say, that hurt SOOOOO bad, because in the back of your head, you'll have something that will trump almost any pain you go through, but that didnt linger. When the baby is out, 90% of the pain is gone. After is just soreness.

Carol Louise - posted on 11/08/2012

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I had 3 pregnancies the 1st was a single birth child then my 2nd pregancy

was a set of twins the 1st born weighing 4 pounds 16 ounces the 2 baby weighed 4 pounds 6 ounces. their doctor told us that to find out if they were identical or the other type of twins. So when the second twin was pregnant

through her blood work that is how they found out that they were identical twins as when I had them no one knew what happened to the placenta as that would have been the information they needed for that purpose.So 30 so odd years later that is when they found out . they are both 35 years old now. Alison the 1st born has 3 boys &2 girls Teresa has just one boy

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