How dumb is this (had to change title, sorry)

Christy - posted on 10/30/2010 ( 88 moms have responded )

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SO has had a BAD cough for like 4 months after a cold that he had. I have been BEGGING him to go to the DR. He kept telling me he would. Never did. What comes in the mail today? FISH ANTIBIOTICS! He plans to take these instead of going to get a diagnosis for why he is coughing so bad. Sorry more of a venting post, but come on, go to the DR! We have health insurance and our RX co-pays are 30 bucks. He said this only cost 12.50, with 15 bucks in shipping. Also our DR co pays are 20 bucks. Better to be safe than sorry, I say! JEEZ!

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Michele - posted on 11/02/2010

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@ Joy - I agree with Tracey. I do not find the humor in a grown man purchasing fish antibiotics just to avoid going to the doctor. From a medical standpoint there are several things to consider. As people have mentioned, he may have a serious condition that needs to be addressed. The antibiotics may not be the right medication for his condition, or the right concentration, he may not dose himself correctly because he is not under medical supervision. Because fish antibiotics are not for human consumption they are not regulated as carefully so, as someone already mentioned, they may have may additives (or fillers) that are harmful to humans. This harm wouldn't necessarily show up in the fish because they are dosed at a much smaller level. Then you have to consider that the husband may have an allergic reaction to this antibiotic.Some reactions are relatively minor, while some are life-threatening. If he had taken a doctor-prescribed, human approved medication and something horrible happened, his family would have financial recourse against the manufacturer to pay his medical expenses. This way, they don't. If he has an adverse reaction to the fish meds, he's screwed. It's a completely off-label use. This is one reason why self-medicating is completely irresponsible. Now on to the personal aspects of the situation. Yes, it is his body. Technically he can do whatever he wants, it is a free country. But you know what? When he got married he entered into a contract with his wife and part of that was in sickness and in health, to love and to cherish. He is not a bachelor anymore, just looking out for himself. He needs to think about his family. He is responsible for them, and if something happens to him, it happens to them. Financially and emotionally. That goes for all you moms not taking care of yourselves because you "don't have time" because you have 4 kids. Bullpucky! You know what? You'll be a better mom if you take a half-hour for yourself and make sure you are in a good place. You and your kids will be better for it. Don't miss your doctor appointments just because you don't think you have time. If you keep thinking that, time will run out.

*steps off soap box* Sorry about the rant...I just have a pet peeve about people blaming other things for not taking care of themselves. You owe it to your family to stay happy/healthy.

Eva - posted on 11/02/2010

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It is funny in a way seeking advice about husbands in Circle of Moms. Do you ladies like to be moms to your husbands? I don't! I hate it. I wanted a husband a partner not a baby adult ...I think you should just let him do whatever he does...it is his health and the only person responsible for it is he himself...I do it until he will get wiser or else. I have a child already and I always wanted only one.

Bea - posted on 11/01/2010

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Had similiar problem. Made appointment for my husband, got a sitter, when he walked in the door, I had keys in hand. He threw a fit, so I picked up the phone to call 911. He jumped in the car, and off to the Doctor we went. He actually had a heart problem. He too taking over the counter or mail meds.
Begging, pleading, will not work. YOU have to make it happen. If you know your Doctor well, call them for a hint. I got my hint from my Doctor and it worked. I so pray your husband will go. Ask him for his Physician's license. Bless your heart.

Rachel - posted on 10/31/2010

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a serious cough over a longer time can mean a major health problem. Someone mentioned lung cancer, could also be pneumonia or other lung/bronchial conditions requiring diagnosis and real treatment.

Fish antibiotics??? Unless they are known to treat a specific bacteria that he has been confirmed to have, they aren't going to do any good and could do harm.

Even if he's deathly afraid of doctors, after 4 months of a serious cough, he's making a big mistake by avoiding them.

Kate CP - posted on 10/31/2010

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Uhm, not to alarm you, but a cough lasting for 4 months can be a sign of lung cancer. He really needs to go to the doctor. :/

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Christy - posted on 11/21/2010

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@ Anisha, he's so damn stubborn! I can't drag him to the dr, I look at it this way. He's a big boy and should go himself, and if NOT for himself, his KIDS! SO IRRITATING!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anisha - posted on 11/21/2010

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OMG, THE NEXT STEP IS TO DRAG HIM TO THE DOCTOR!!!! LOL. WHAT WRONG WITH HIM???

Anisha - posted on 11/21/2010

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HI CHRISTY, ANISHA HERE JUST CHECKING ON YOUR HUSBAND. DID HE GIVE IN AND FINALLY GO THE THE DOCTOR??

Anisha - posted on 11/09/2010

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Ok, your husband isnt dumb. You know that men hate going to the dr, they wont go until they cant stand it anymore. On thing though, if its till bad after 4 months then it could be whooping cough/pertussis. Ask him is his booster shot up to date. If its been over 10 years then its more than likely and the only way its going away is antibiotics. I hope this helps you and scares him into seeing a doctor..

Sneaky - posted on 11/04/2010

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He he he . . . .I assumed that you had Christy! . . . but I had to say it anyway :o) I'm glad you took it in the way I intended.

Christy - posted on 11/04/2010

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The antibiotics are in pill form like you get at the Dr, 250mg of Amoxicilan (SP) Called Fish Mox.

Tanya - posted on 11/04/2010

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I just watched an old According to Jim lastnight and he took Fish Antibiotics ... you should try to find it for him to watch and see what happens to Jim, lol ... men...

Julie - posted on 11/04/2010

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men just dont like to go to the doctor as long as he is not winging at you then let him suffer but if he wont suffer in silence then just get the doctor to come to you.

Deborah - posted on 11/04/2010

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Excellent advice!!! Make appt. and tell 'em if they don't show they will be charged double for not canceling. Most men don't like making business calls or any calls for that matter.

Barb - posted on 11/04/2010

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I think someone is afraid of what the doctor will say. Take the bull by the horns and make him the app't. Tell him that if he doesn't show, that they will bill you anyway. By the way, he sounds just like mine. You gotta love them but sometimes BAM across the head.:-} Good luck!

Deborah - posted on 11/04/2010

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We are the caretakers of the world! Just wait till your kids are grown...once a parent it's a lifetime condition albeit a most pleasant one.

Tami - posted on 11/03/2010

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My husband just did the same thing and I finally just made him an appt and told him to go, no if, ands or butts! Then the Dr put him on a Zpack of massive antiobiotics and steroids and cough medicine with codeine. He had a major sinus infection and was on his way to Pnemonia. Your husband really needs to go to the Dr.

Rebecca - posted on 11/03/2010

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Oh man, my boyfriend got really sick last year with what he thought was his annual bronchitis attack. He refused to go to the doc until his fever was 102 or 103. Turned out not only was it bronchitis, but swine flu as well. men are so stubborn.

Deborah - posted on 11/02/2010

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Yeah I know. I've been trying to get my son in because he has a new baby so I'll get down off of the soapbox and enjoy the humor.
Fish antibiotics is pretty funny and a male thing. "Anything but the doctor," lol!

Stifler's - posted on 11/02/2010

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LOL how much of a big deal has this turned into bahahaha I think she was just humouring the fish antibiotics. I just make Damian an app when he's sick and tell him what time and to go.

Jodi - posted on 11/02/2010

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The problem is, Michele, it may be frustrating, but we can't hold a gun to their heads. And men don't respond well to nagging. All we can do as women is make suggestions to our husbands, and remind them without nagging. I think you will find that many of us find it amusing because it is so typically male and we can all relate to it.

Michele - posted on 11/02/2010

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Joy, thank you, and I respect your opinion as well. My purpose/point of view was less of a medical lecture and more of pointing out that dear hubby is letting his fear and/or machismo get in the way of his responsibility to his family. None of this falls on Christy's shoulders. He's a grown man and needs to buck up and go, for his kids' sake. I just get so frustrated when I see people, particularly people who have others that count on them, let something like fear get in the way of taking care of their family. Fear is something you can do something about. My father knew that the lump in his throat making it difficult/painful to swallow was a bad thing. Yet it took him a year to go to the doctor because he was caught up in the fear of what it might be, instead of thinking "OK, let's figure out what it is so we can get ahead of it." By the time he went in, it was stage IV laryngeal cancer. I am greatful to say that he is cancer free today, but I almost lost him. It's an eye-opener, that's for sure!
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Michele, while I respect your opinion, I don't need a medical lecture. The OP, Christy, is aware that her husband needs to go to the doctor. Read the original post. But, my point is, AGAIN, that if she needs to find some humor in the situation then damn, just let her. She even stated she was here to vent...not seeking medical advice. I find it funny. You don't. No biggie. I can't believe y'all are taking this so seriously. I could see if the OP was completely oblivious or unaware that he should go to the doctor. She's not. She's dealing with a stubborn man, she's obviously trying to get him to go to the doctor, she comes here to vent and share a silly story and (some) people come on and lecture her about the dangers of a long lasting cough. Well no shit, Sherlock! She knows this, I know this, we ALL know this. Damn. Lighten up people.

Kate CP - posted on 11/02/2010

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Ewa: So we should just let our husbands slowly kill themselves because it's what they want? Seriously? That's not a partnership, that's being an enabler.

Kelina - posted on 11/02/2010

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Ewa I'm not my husbands mom but if i were to lose him because he was too stubborn to go to the doctor I'd be devastated. My kids would be without a father and I'd be without a way to feed my kids since I have no job, and anything i could work at would be barely enough to cover daycare costs. I try not to nag my husband but his health is one thing I will nag him over. Besides, parenthood is a two way street, and if we can't get good advice about our husbands and co-parents from other moms, who can we get it from?

Jessica - posted on 11/02/2010

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Well,I think he's just a husband. My hubby only goes to the Dr if absolutely necessary and probably would order fish antibiotics!

Janice M - posted on 11/02/2010

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hehehehe I am like your Hubby I guess. I have this yukky cough and still coughing up phlemn. Doctors say nothings wrong so I have started taking OLIVE LEAF and another green liquid that is working a treat. The health store was more helpful than the doc. !!

Jennifer - posted on 11/02/2010

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I have a friend who was really poor growing up...they never went to the Dr and always took fish antibiotics! But he does need to go...4 months is a long time for a cough.

Laura - posted on 11/02/2010

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It is quite foolish to NOT see the doctor for this cough, especially when you have good health insurance, and to assume it can be treated with fish antibiotics! For starters (assuming the antibiotics won't harm him) the medicine may not be the corrent antibiotic for his particular infection! And someone already mentioned viruses, in which case the medicine will do no good.

But seriously, a cough that lasts that long could be the symptom of something significantly serious--pneumonia or lung cancer. I had a brother-in-law who caught a cold and the cough never went away. After several months of coughing he finally went to the doctor to learn that he had lung cancer. He died a few months later. I realize that may be an extreme example, but this type of stuborness could have fatal consequences. I say better safe than sorry! Tell him to pony up the co-pay and see a doctor ASAP!

Nadia - posted on 11/02/2010

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My husband used to be like yours until we had a wake up call! I was ill and not that I don't take care of myself but I'm the last one on my list, after the hubby and the kids! I'm sure most of you Moms out there can relate, right? Well by the time I saw a DR, about 1 week after I first started feeling awful, I picked up the script she recommended - with reluctance cuz I'm not a fan of meds, since they often cure one problem and create another problem. Anyway, 2 months later I still wasn't better, in fact worse. Then I tried some alternative treatments coupled with the best whole food supplements I could find and after 1.5 weeks I was whole again! The best part about all this was now I've got my entire family - husband included! - taking these whole food supplements and we almost never get sick now. Even when we do come down with sometime, it only lasts a day. Now, anytime my hubby moans a little, I just remind him of how terrible it was for him to be Mr. Mom for 2 months when I was out of commission. .. Hopefully, in your case, it won't take a major illness to wake your hubby up. Tell him my storey and maybe he'll visit the DR!

Anna - posted on 11/02/2010

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Are you sure it was fish antibiotics and not fish oil? Fish oil is really good for you, even for skin and nails. It wouldn't hurt you to take fish oil either. BTW, I don't go to the doctor either. We have a $20 co-pay for the Dr. and a $10 copay for most medicines. I hate to go. I have so much to do with 4 kids and a business and homeschooling, I hate to sit and do nothing while I'm there. I take garlic for my infections.

Kimi - posted on 11/02/2010

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Just give him some time to see if the stuff he got will work and then just take him yourself. I don't think this means he's dumb, it's his body and he wants to be the one who fixes it. I'm the same way. It takes a great concern for me to go in for anything but when my husband says "get in the car it's time to see a doctor" I go.

Jeanne - posted on 11/02/2010

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Hi Christy,

I agree with you that I would have gone to the doctor especially since your co-pays for the doctor visit would have been less than the fish antibiotics and shipping. Some people just plainly and simply dislike doctors (I know I'm not a fan) and have neglected getting medical help until I made myself worse. So now when I cannot shake something I DO go to the doctor whether I like it or not. Tell him that when he starts growing gills or gets "ick" that he can explain it to the doctor. But I know I can't get my hubby to go to a doctor for anything....even when he needs stitches!!! He just calls up his sister who is a nurse and has her bring steri-strips and to patch him up. Ahhhhh men....can't live with them...but we can laugh at them!!!! lol

Jennifer - posted on 11/02/2010

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Well, if he chooses to take fish antibiotics, it won't hurt him. They're actually the same as the human variety. However, if his cough is due to a virus, they won't help him. He really should go to the doctor, but he's a grown man and you can't make him...

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No, it gets ingested into the fish when they breathe so I would imagine if he actually does take them he will drink them. I don't know for sure but I'm assuming that's what he would do. The ones I used to use for my fish were purple though, and would stain the water purple for a few hours. I wonder if they will stain his mouth and teeth if he drinks them lol

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Well then now you see the same image I drew in my own head!





So what does that mean for Dad taking the fish antibiotics? Is he going to put the correct number of drops in a tub and then sit in it? Or is he going to time his showers and add one drop to the stream of water every 3 minutes?

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@ Ink Ette: Fish antibiotics come in liquid form. You put a certain number of drops in per gallon of water in the tank. But thanks, now I have a vision of teeny tiny pills being force fed to gold fish ROFL

Rebecca - posted on 11/02/2010

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Christy,
Bea Zahn has the right idea. Sometimes you have to be forceful. After all his health isn't just about him anymore.

Paula - posted on 11/02/2010

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I agree with alot of the comments in here. It is funny that he bought the fish antibiotics, but my father had a cough for about 6 months. We finally got him to go to the doctor's and he had Stage IV Lung Cancer and passed away about 8 months later. I kick myself every day for not convincing him go sooner.

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They make pills for fish?
How do you give a fish a pill?
Are there specific instructions like...25mg per pound of fish?
How do you weigh a fish?

My mother tried to self medicate one time. She had an ear infection, decided that it was bacterial and had some vaginal suppositories in the medicine cabinet to treat a bacterial vaginal infection. She stuck a suppository in her ear hoping it would melt.

Self medication requires creativity!

Jennifer - posted on 11/02/2010

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WOW! Hilarious. But really he should be seen. I think my husband just goes b/c i schedule it and pay and go with him. I think he's hot when he does the things he needs to to take care of himself. But really he needs to go to the doc! Sometimes i think DH also goes b/c I nag him and we're paying an arm and a hug for health ins, might as well use it. Also guilt trips work with him. If he isn't well or something happens to him...well I'm a SAHM and we have 3 kids...

Stifler's - posted on 11/02/2010

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Men hate going to the doctor! My husband never wants to go or take the medication he gets when he does as long as he's supposed to. I've never heard of fish antibiotics lol

Cheryl - posted on 11/01/2010

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they will complain that they are sick with the littlest of ailments, yet, don't want to go near a doctor. If we are sick, we still have to care for the kids, wash the clothes, cook the meals......accck, i give up!!!!

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