How many c-sections can a woman have?

Michelle - posted on 08/28/2009

No you shouldn't have to have another c-sec. I had a c-section with my first child. I have had 4 other children after him and all vaginal. It depends on how the doctor did the surgery. Talk to tour doctor or midwife about it.

Raquel - posted on 08/27/2009

Quoting Nikki:

Hi Raquel.
Some of my girlfriends have had emergency c-sections for their first baby, and went on to deliver naturally for their other babies. I myself, have had 4 c-sections and my obstetrician has a patient that she has delivered 7 c-sections for. If you want to deliver your next bubby naturally, speak to your obstetrician, and they will do their best to make sure that happens. If you're like me, that opted to have c-sections, don't let anybody hinder your decision. I was amazed at how many people looked down on me for deciding to have c-sections. It was originally recommended for me to have a c-section with my first as I had gestational diabetes and was on insulin 4 times a day. I was more than happy to go with it! End of the day, it's your decision. If people have a problem with it, well just let them deal with it! Some mothers do think they know what's best for every other mother. Just take their advice and throw away what you don't need. Good luck to you.
Nikki

Nikki,

Thank you very much for your insight on the whole c-sections discussion. I have much more faith that I can maybe go naturally for my next child. And you and I have kind of a similar situation where previous medical issues conditions. I had scelersois where at age 17.5/18 yrs. of age I had surgery on my back where the doc placed two rods in my back. And I didn't think that may of had anything to do with having my daughter via emergency c-section but there was other factors that she was 9 pounds 3 oz and I at pre pregancy weight was a rather thin for 5'8. Anyways i do understand where you're coming from when you say that some mothers look down on mothers who have c-sections. And unfortunately, a lot of mothers who do feel this way don't realize how much mothers' who had c-sections would've loved to have their babies naturally/vaginally but sometimes things don't go according to plan. and that us moms were thinking of the welfare of our babies and didn't want to think twice of risks that we may endanger our babies.And when push comes to shove...our baby was our main concern and we'll do anything in our power to protect them. and sometimes if a doc says that they feel its the best to have a c-section then I say lets do it!! In my situation, my baby's heartbeat was beating rather fast, then it drop rather low...and my first thought was OMG!! My baby needs to come out now, so when the doc say said lets go, I was more than ready for my baby. and today she's very healthy and beautiful.

And I hope many blessings to you and your children. I appreciate your comment.

-Raquel

Nikki - posted on 08/26/2009

Hi Raquel.

Some of my girlfriends have had emergency c-sections for their first baby, and went on to deliver naturally for their other babies. I myself, have had 4 c-sections and my obstetrician has a patient that she has delivered 7 c-sections for. If you want to deliver your next bubby naturally, speak to your obstetrician, and they will do their best to make sure that happens. If you're like me, that opted to have c-sections, don't let anybody hinder your decision. I was amazed at how many people looked down on me for deciding to have c-sections. It was originally recommended for me to have a c-section with my first as I had gestational diabetes and was on insulin 4 times a day. I was more than happy to go with it! End of the day, it's your decision. If people have a problem with it, well just let them deal with it! Some mothers do think they know what's best for every other mother. Just take their advice and throw away what you don't need. Good luck to you.

Nikki

Sharla - posted on 08/25/2009

I was so supposed to see your post Rhianwen! My first baby (9 years ago) was natural, my second (3 years, 4 months) was a c/s, and I am so wanting to have my next baby, or two babies...naturally, no drugs, no bright lights or people buzzing around me...I needed to hear you say that. Rock on! And Rock on Raquel!

Rhianwen - posted on 08/25/2009

Why would they all ahve to be c sec?? My 2nd was a c/s, but I had 3 and 4 naturally without drugs.

Tamara - posted on 08/25/2009

Quoting Mary Ann:

You need to discuss this with your doctor. It is different for everyone. I have had three c-sections. The first was unplanned. I was not able to have a VBAC...and there are potential serious complications that can result if you choose a VBAC. Your doctor will be able to talk you through it. And...a planned c-section is definitely easier than the emergency one...but its still surgery. My first two are 18 months apart and my third and second are 22 months apart. And we hope to be blessed with more! Good luck. And enjoy your little one...they grow up SO fast.

May I ask what complications you're referring to and can you show me the peer reviewed studies to back it up?  My research has shown me that VBAC is no riskier than a first time vaginal birth.

Mary Ann - posted on 08/25/2009

You need to discuss this with your doctor. It is different for everyone. I have had three c-sections. The first was unplanned. I was not able to have a VBAC...and there are potential serious complications that can result if you choose a VBAC. Your doctor will be able to talk you through it. And...a planned c-section is definitely easier than the emergency one...but its still surgery. My first two are 18 months apart and my third and second are 22 months apart. And we hope to be blessed with more! Good luck. And enjoy your little one...they grow up SO fast.

Chandra - posted on 08/24/2009

I had an emergency C-section with my first child. My doctor said that I could have the next baby either way (C-section or vaginally). I ended up having another C-section (by choice) with my second child and had no problems at all.

Mary - posted on 08/24/2009

Hi, I have had 4 c-sections, and my kids are about 2 years apart. My dr told me that I shoudlnt have anymore because of the scar tissue on my uterus. But a nurse told me that there was a woman who had 6. But I think when you get around 3-4 they tell you its not a good idea to have more. but you can have a vaginal birth after one c-section, called a v-bac, vaginal birth after c-section. discuss this with your dr. I think they dont want you haveing so many because they cut you so many times, it makes your uterus weaker when its streatching in the later months of pregnancy. But look at the Dugger family, the woman who has 18 children, shes had I think 2 c-sections through out the 18 children. I think it depends on what you and your dr decide.

Sharla - posted on 08/24/2009

Raquel, please don't be discouraged by debate. Do vigorous research in your area, and formulate your own conclusions after talking to many different resources. Please surround yourself with the people who support what you and your fiance want for your big family to be. ICAN is a magnificent resource that we will utilize for our next baby and I couldn't be happier to be near them. You can protect your baby, your body, and still have natural births if that is what you want. And please don't let anyone frighten you into a decision you do not want whether it's when you should get pregnant, birthing or breastfeeding. God bless you and I wish you all that you dream of!

Mary - posted on 08/24/2009

Quoting Tamara:

Quoting Mary:

I can only account for OB's in the states, but all of them here ARE educated on VBAC's...whether or not they are comfortable or willing to do them is a whole other matter.  Quite frankly, the ridiculous # of lawsuits that haunt them is the primary reason they have fallen out of favor.  Like you and I, they are humans, with families to provide for, so I'm not sure that this is an unreasonable reaction on their part.  Yes, I agree that finding a provider willing to entertain the possibilty of a VBAC is crucial...but not knowing the specifics of the OP's first labor makes it impossible to know if this is even a viable option with future pregnancies, so I'd be cautious in recommending it too strongly.

Having participated in putting together the ICAN database on all hospitals in the US that do and do not allow VBAC, I have found that just over half the hospitals in the US have either an outright ban on VBAC or what's known as a "defacto" ban where they tell you it depends on your OB who will more than likely tell you if your labor doesn't go textbook perfect, you will be sectioned.

I agree that OBs are humans with families to provide for but they're also surgeons who have no business attending low risk pregnancies.  All they really know how to do is cut you open.  I found it out the hard way.  If you truly desire a doctor to attend your pregnancy, go to a GP or a FP.  Personally, I much prefer a midwife over a doctor any day of the week.

Ummm....I don't have firsthand knowledge of other states, but I do know that what you've written is NOT true in the greater Baltimore area, where I am an L&D rn, and have been for the past 15 years.  We do VBAC's on a regular basis, WHEN the patient wants one (many of them don't...even if they come in in rip-roaring labor, 7cms...we try to persuade them, and they refuse).  This alone makes me question the validity of your data.  I have never heard of a hospital banning VBAC's...I'm sure there are some OB's that may refuse to do them...and that is their right...if you want one, you simply find another provider.

I LOVE certified nurse midwives, and highly recommend them to many people I know...but a VBAC is not a low risk labor, so for that to be safe for a VBAC candidate, there must be a readily available MD backup.  As for OB's only knowing how to cut....you are SADLY misinformed.  Again, having attended hundreds and hundreds of births, I can attest that your statement is just outright false.  It may be your perception or opinion, but it is not an accurate or fair description of OB/GYN's.  They ma be over-qualified for the average, low-risk birth, but it IS their business to care for these women, as well as higher risk patients. 

Tamara - posted on 08/24/2009

Quoting Mary:

I can only account for OB's in the states, but all of them here ARE educated on VBAC's...whether or not they are comfortable or willing to do them is a whole other matter.  Quite frankly, the ridiculous # of lawsuits that haunt them is the primary reason they have fallen out of favor.  Like you and I, they are humans, with families to provide for, so I'm not sure that this is an unreasonable reaction on their part.  Yes, I agree that finding a provider willing to entertain the possibilty of a VBAC is crucial...but not knowing the specifics of the OP's first labor makes it impossible to know if this is even a viable option with future pregnancies, so I'd be cautious in recommending it too strongly.

Having participated in putting together the ICAN database on all hospitals in the US that do and do not allow VBAC, I have found that just over half the hospitals in the US have either an outright ban on VBAC or what's known as a "defacto" ban where they tell you it depends on your OB who will more than likely tell you if your labor doesn't go textbook perfect, you will be sectioned.

I agree that OBs are humans with families to provide for but they're also surgeons who have no business attending low risk pregnancies.  All they really know how to do is cut you open.  I found it out the hard way.  If you truly desire a doctor to attend your pregnancy, go to a GP or a FP.  Personally, I much prefer a midwife over a doctor any day of the week.

Tiffany - posted on 08/24/2009

Hi Raquel,

I have had two C-sections, but have had a total of 5 abdominal surgeries 4 of which used the same incision site. For me every subsequent surgery got easier I just had hopefully my last surgery 8 weeks ago and was literally ready to get back to work 3 weeks later ( although I didn't LOL). So, I guess it depends on your body and the doctor. I dont want to get cut anymore, the scar tissue made this last one quite difficult, thankfully I had a great doc.

Shaynee - posted on 08/24/2009

Hi Raquel..Ive had 4 but they say 3 should really be the limit..My last one was in Oct. of 2007..I didnt have any complications just the usually pain, I healed okay except it took them longer to stitch me up in the inside because I had scared tissue for my previous c-sections...So I think you should be fine your doctor will be able to tell you more about it but you may or may not need one because it was an emergency c-section..

Yvonne - posted on 08/24/2009

hiya my friend gave birth to her first by c section then went on to have 3 more children by normal delivery. im pregnant on my 3rd and all mine r by c section.

Debbie - posted on 08/23/2009

Hi Raquel! I am not sure, but personally, I have had 4 c-sections. Best Wishes to you and your fiance.

Mary - posted on 08/23/2009

Quoting Tamara:

Quoting Mary:

There really is no set number...it depends a lot on your body. Some women CAN safely have 10 c/sections, and for others, it's just not possible. Really depends on how your body heals...how much scar tissues or adhesions you develop after subsequent pregnancies, and how your uterine muscles hold up. There is no way to predict this...at the time of each subsequent c/s, your doc will be able to SEE all of this, and would advise you if he/she thought that future pregnancies could be dangerous for you or any future babies.
As for the whole VBAC thing...it's something to consider, depending on the reason for the 1st one. If failure to progress or for the head to descend, well, your chances for success aren't great. If for some reason you had a CLASSICAL inciscion (vertical), than a VBAC is NOT an option (usually only done in extreme prematurity or extreme emergencies). I would really recommend discussing a VBAC with your OB at length in the beginning of your next pregnancy, so that you can make a fully informed decision.

While it is helpful to see if your OB is VBAC friendly, many OBs are not actually educated on VBAC itself.  They simply swallow whatever swill that ACOG has handed down on the subject which is why it is vital that we educate ourselves on the subject and remember that the OB is our employee not the otherway around.

I can only account for OB's in the states, but all of them here ARE educated on VBAC's...whether or not they are comfortable or willing to do them is a whole other matter.  Quite frankly, the ridiculous # of lawsuits that haunt them is the primary reason they have fallen out of favor.  Like you and I, they are humans, with families to provide for, so I'm not sure that this is an unreasonable reaction on their part.  Yes, I agree that finding a provider willing to entertain the possibilty of a VBAC is crucial...but not knowing the specifics of the OP's first labor makes it impossible to know if this is even a viable option with future pregnancies, so I'd be cautious in recommending it too strongly.

Sharla - posted on 08/23/2009

I second Megan who recommends ICAN. I had a natural delivery in 2000, in 2006 my baby was face up and after 21 hours of labor, they manipulated us into C-section. We won't make that mistake again. Absolutely do all the research to reassure yourself and know that you can have a VBAC, and there are many things you can do to strengthen your uterus--red raspberry tea, yoga (luna yoga specifically), and waiting for a bit of time depending on your age to let your uterus recover. The younger you are the faster you'll recover. I wish you many more naturally delivered babies!

Tamara - posted on 08/23/2009

Quoting Mary:

There really is no set number...it depends a lot on your body. Some women CAN safely have 10 c/sections, and for others, it's just not possible. Really depends on how your body heals...how much scar tissues or adhesions you develop after subsequent pregnancies, and how your uterine muscles hold up. There is no way to predict this...at the time of each subsequent c/s, your doc will be able to SEE all of this, and would advise you if he/she thought that future pregnancies could be dangerous for you or any future babies.
As for the whole VBAC thing...it's something to consider, depending on the reason for the 1st one. If failure to progress or for the head to descend, well, your chances for success aren't great. If for some reason you had a CLASSICAL inciscion (vertical), than a VBAC is NOT an option (usually only done in extreme prematurity or extreme emergencies). I would really recommend discussing a VBAC with your OB at length in the beginning of your next pregnancy, so that you can make a fully informed decision.

While it is helpful to see if your OB is VBAC friendly, many OBs are not actually educated on VBAC itself.  They simply swallow whatever swill that ACOG has handed down on the subject which is why it is vital that we educate ourselves on the subject and remember that the OB is our employee not the otherway around.

Mary - posted on 08/23/2009

There really is no set number...it depends a lot on your body. Some women CAN safely have 10 c/sections, and for others, it's just not possible. Really depends on how your body heals...how much scar tissues or adhesions you develop after subsequent pregnancies, and how your uterine muscles hold up. There is no way to predict this...at the time of each subsequent c/s, your doc will be able to SEE all of this, and would advise you if he/she thought that future pregnancies could be dangerous for you or any future babies.

As for the whole VBAC thing...it's something to consider, depending on the reason for the 1st one. If failure to progress or for the head to descend, well, your chances for success aren't great. If for some reason you had a CLASSICAL inciscion (vertical), than a VBAC is NOT an option (usually only done in extreme prematurity or extreme emergencies). I would really recommend discussing a VBAC with your OB at length in the beginning of your next pregnancy, so that you can make a fully informed decision.

Stina - posted on 08/22/2009

Quoting Raquel:

 I know its silly of me to think of having another baby while my little one is 4 months...but it was just a thought in the back of my mind...

I think this is a woman thing.  Before delivering my third baby, my husband and I thought we'd stop at three during the beginning of the pregnancy and then about halfway through, when I was beginning to have second thoughts, we talked and he was also having second thoughts.  So, with the delivery of #3, I didn't have a tubal ligation. 

My daughter is now 4 months old and as we hadn't planned to have her at this time, we had actually gotten rid of a few baby items.  As we replace them, I have in mind that we can use them for #4 but when I mention #4 to my husband, he goes "Whoa!  Another?!"  This really confused me since the easiest thing to do if he didn't want another baby would have been to have a tubal ligation during my most recent C-section.  So I talked to him (better now than risk another blessed surprise if he really wants to stop at 3)  Turns out, he isn't opposed to four, he just doesn't want to talk about a fourth NOW while #3 is still a baby. 

For women, it is always a thought in the back of our minds.  We sit nursing our current baby and watching the others at the breakfast table, close our eyes and envision another face to complete the scene.  When I had my second baby, I could just see two more children at my table and she was only two months old.  Now, my third baby is four months old (today) and I tuck my kids in at night and imagine that fourth little face to kiss. 

Abbie - posted on 08/22/2009

Before my csection my doctor asked if we planned to ahve a large family? I said no more then 4 he said ok you are fine then we a c section. It depends to on you and how much scare tissue your body has created. Also with consecutive c sections they worry about the placenta attaching to the scar tissue; because when that happens and they go to cut you open you bleed like crazy! I would ask your doctor!

Tamara - posted on 08/22/2009

The old adage of "once a c-section always a c-section" is no longer true. VBAC is always the first option in subsequent births, however, depending on your OB and the hospital policies (if you choose to deliver w/an OB in a hospital), you may have to fight for it. A good start for resources would be http://www.ican-online.org These women have a massive amount of experience navigating the medical system and fighting to get the birth you deserve.

Stefanie - posted on 08/22/2009

VBAC are safer (as long as you are low risk for all things besides your previous c-section) than a repeat c-section.

Most Dr.'s suggests no more than 4 c-sections but you can have as many as you want really. They can't tell you how to control your body. I know a woman who had 10 c-sections.

Raquel - posted on 08/22/2009

Omg!! Thanks mothers for your many responses to my question...I was just curious because I felt ashamed not being able to deliver naturally and that maybe I couldn't live out my dream of having a big family but everyone has given me encouragement that its possible. I know its silly of me to think of having another baby while my little one is 4 months...but it was just a thought in the back of my mind...

Emma - posted on 08/22/2009

My mum had 5 c-sections. 2 emergency and 3 planned. her last one was me in 1989 lol

Sabrina - posted on 08/22/2009

It has been advised that three is the limit you should have. You shouldn't risk your life to have any more children than that- 3 is a grace.

Amy - posted on 08/22/2009

I will have my third c-section January 2010.

Stephanie - posted on 08/22/2009

i just think that the doctors set a guildline number for people so that they know now what is safe. things are so much more different and advanced than when Eleanor Roosevelt had her c sections and we know more now than we did then. i do agree that it is all dependant on how u cope after the operation, because is it calssed as major sergery, and how well your body heals afterwards. i think it would be silly to ignor the advice or the pros but at the end of the day it is your decision to make and you have only had 1 section so there is nothing to say you cant go natural next time.

Tiffany - posted on 08/22/2009

There is no set limit. Don't let anyone tell you that "3 is the limit" or something like that. I read once that Eleanor Roosevelt had 11 C sections. And medicine has come a long way since then anyway.
It all depends on your body, your pregnancy and deliveries and you doctor.
Like some others said-You may be a candidate for VBAC depending on your medical history and whatnot. You may end up having a couple vaginals if you can and a couple more C sections. All pregnancies and deliveries are SO different. Your next pregnancy and delivery may go great with a C. You'll just have to find out how each subsequent pregnancy goes.
If they tell you you're not a likely choice for VBAC, and you get pregnant (whether by choice or by accident), then they would have to do a C sec no matter what right?
The risks may be higher, but if you get pregnant, the baby has to come out one way or another, right!! If they said, no, you can't have anymore C secs, and then you got pregnant-obviously they would do a C sec if they had to. I hope that made sense.

Anyway, obviously, consult a physician, and keep an open mind about delivering Vaginally if possible.

Stephanie - posted on 08/22/2009

hiys hunni,

my 1st son was an emergancy c-section as well because my labour didnt progress. If you have only had 1 section then there is nothing stopping you from going on and having a natural birth for ur 2nd and subsiquaint pregnancy's. i did have another c-section with my 2nd son but the doctors think that i may have a misshaped pelvis (heart or oval shape) so i could never give birth naturally. so now i am pregnant again it will be a planned section like my second one was. i have know people to have 4 sections but the do say to wait a very min of 2 year but 5 years is better. hope this helps x x x

Bev - posted on 08/22/2009

my sister had 4 - but that was over 20 years ago. they didn't want to do anymore than that. things may have changed today.

Stina - posted on 08/22/2009

Look around to see if you can find a doctor and Hospital that will do VBACs and try to space out your next pregnancy.



I too had #1 by emergency c-section. I now have three- all by cesarian and may have a fourth in the future.

Alisha - posted on 08/22/2009

My mum had 4 and her last when she was 47 and shes fine.

Jami Aka JamiQuan - posted on 08/22/2009

First it should be said that just because you had one section doesnt mean you have to have another section. You could go on to have a VBAC which is a vaginal birth after a c section. But to answer your questions it really depends on how your wound healed I know some women who have had 6 sections and some who have had 1 gotten pregnant with baby #2 and was told to never have anymore children due to her wound/section scare healing and fusing into her uterus. So there could be no challenges and then there could be some. The most important thing is to know you have choices and a c section is not the only one. ;0)

Carianne - posted on 08/22/2009

I know a woman who will be having her 6th Csection soon. I think overall health has something to do with how many the Dr. will let you have. Also depends on the Dr. I guess.

Lisa - posted on 08/22/2009

the max you can have is 5 surgens tend to be funny after that many something to do with the skin not always going back together so easy, limit used to be 3 but that was changed about a year ago if you had your baby by emergency c-section they maybe nothing stopping a normal delivery the next time discuss it with your doctor least the next time you have a baby and it does end up being a c-section you will know what to expect its less scary and actually little less painful cause you will already know how far you can push your body when doing things

Kristy - posted on 08/22/2009

Hi Raquel, well i just had my second c-section. i hear that you should only have three. well if you are planning on having more. you might not have it c-section. so you never know. i will look in to it and get back to you okay...

Kelsi - posted on 08/22/2009

You should talk to your doctor. I was a candidate for a VBAC but had a second c-section. (BTW, the second time around is easier! I wasn't nearly as sore as the first.) My dr said they prefer no more than 3-4 but she will still deliver via c-section 6, 7, 8 times.

Heather - posted on 08/22/2009

The only person who can answer this question for sure is your Dr. It depends on your body and how you heal after each one. I personally told my Dr. I wanted 4 kids so please do everything possible to make sure I can. He wanted me to stop at 3 but made it possible for 4. You'll be fine. Enjoy every moment with youir baby now. They grow up to fast.

April - posted on 08/22/2009

Hi Raquel. I had an emergency c section 3 years ago and my doctor told me then that the next time I was to have a baby I could try vaginally. He was an emergency c section due to his heart rate rapidly d celling. She did say that in the event I tried naturally it still may happen that something come up medically to cause for a c section or even another emergency c section. My sister on the other hand has to HAVE all hers via c section. She was in labor for 30+ hours with her first and they decided to do a c section because her hips were too narrow and the baby couldn't come down naturally. They told her from then on all her babies would have to come via c section. She just had her 3rd baby and everything is fine. She plans on having one more. I think it depends on your medical history with your OB/GYN so definetly check with your doctor. I hope this helps:)

Cassandra - posted on 08/22/2009

Only 3 that the limit any more u will have a lot of complication.

Bethanie - posted on 08/22/2009

i know that you get more scarred tissue with the more you have but as far as i know i don't think it will limit on having more babies. i have had 3 and i have a friend that has had 4.

Megan - posted on 08/22/2009

you can always try a VBAC (vaginal birth after cesarean) but sometimes what they call an emergency isn't always that. do a lot of research of the subject. a place to start is www.ican-online.org
also, the more c-sections you have the more dangerous it becomes not just for you but for the baby.
good luck with your research!

Rachael - posted on 08/22/2009

I have had 2 already and if I had chose to have more kids I would have had more. and for me the soreness was not as bad the second time. I think part of that was that I knew what to expect.

Sophia - posted on 08/22/2009

Depending on the kind of c-section you had, you could have future babies via VBAC (vaginal birth after c-section). I dunno if this is an option for you. My understanding is that you could have as many kids if you did VBAC.

That said, my mom had all of us 3 kids via c-section, and that was in the "olden" days. Technology and techniques almost 40 years later have improved, so I think you could have as many kids as your body is up to it....something definitely to discuss with your dr. Good luck!

Raquel - posted on 08/22/2009

Thanks Inez,



I was just wondering...and wasn't planning to have another child anytime soon...I know the feeling, the c-section had its advantages and disadvantages. Yikes, I dread the soreness maybe 2 years from now...I want another baby so there won't be a huge gap between ages

Inez Marie - posted on 08/22/2009

Hi Raquel, I had a c-section in 2006. My neighbour has had 5. Victoria Beckham has had 3. I've heard that really u shud only have 3 because its open surgery and u may require open surgery after you've finished having kids for medical reasons which could end up being too much surgery for your body to cope with. It just depends. People do go on to have vaginal deliveries after c-sections so I wouldn't rule it out! Gud look with it. Your child is only 4 months you've loads of time. Mine is 3 years and I still am sceptical about getting pregnant again. I found my c-section so sore.

Inez Marie - posted on 08/22/2009

Quoting Raquel:

How many c-sections can a woman have?

I'm just curious about how many c-sections can a woman have?? My fiance and I plan to have a big family, and my 4 month old who is our only child at the moment was a emergency c-section. And I was worry that since I had a c-section for her that would limit me having more babies in the future because I'm sure they'll all have to be deliver via
c-section...