I dont really agree with immunizations. Am I crazy? And what are some alternatives?

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Natalie - posted on 05/07/2009

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I dont either! My son doesnt have any of his shots and he is starting school this year! I went and took a naturopathic doctor course that gave me my certificate. But other than that just research different things like multivitamins and diet wise! Other than that if your child isnt old enough to go to school yet, when he is just call public health and they send you a form that excuses him from all immunizations! My son does not get sick and I have never had to deal with him sick and I alone take care of him so really it is all up to you and what you do to keep him protected! Need any other tips let me know!

Emily - posted on 05/07/2009

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Oh. We never had the classic "whoop". Both my daughter and my husband got it several years ago. Theirs lasted about 3 months which is why they call it the 100 day cough.

Tiffany - posted on 05/07/2009

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The doctor heard her cough, and intantly knew what it was! We have an older doctore (family practice) She also had an ear infection and gave her a higher dose of antibiotic, and said that the cough could last 2-4 weeks, and after a week or so it just kinda faded off..

Emily - posted on 05/07/2009

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No problem at all. I am wondering how you know she had it. When my daughter had it they refused to test for it. They kept calling it croup. Finally a friend of mine insisted on having her child tested for it and the test came back positive. When hers was positive I told the doctor that my child had been exposed to it so they tested her with three swabs. The first two came back negative the last one positive.

Emily - posted on 05/07/2009

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IT is. If your child is up to date she would have received it at her 2, 4, 6 month appointments and will get (I think) 2 more at her upcoming appointments.

Tiffany - posted on 05/07/2009

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I have been told that whooping cough is not vacinated for anymore, i apologize if i am wrong however. I just have very strong feelings on the subject

Emily - posted on 05/07/2009

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Quoting Tiffany:





 Case in point, a few months ago, my daughter had Whooping cough. A very old time thing, and dr's had stopped vaccinating for. So .. if everyone quits vaccinating for things, they are bound to come back. And that is not fair to the parents and children who do the responsible thing and vaccinate there children. Sorry if i offended anyone, but this is just my opinon! 





Do you mean that some parents have chosen to stop vaccinating for whooping cough? I ask for clarification because doctors certainly still are vaccinating for it and it is on the reccomended/required shot list for every state in the USA Nebraska included.

Kimberly - posted on 05/07/2009

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I have posted a couple of times already. But I have a question for the mothers who do not vaccinate their children. Do you realize by not vaccinating your child against these preventable diseses that the children who are vaccinated could end up not being safe b/c of the number of children that are unvaccinated. It goes back the the herd protection. If a certain percentage of children are not vaccinated the vaccine won't work correctly.

I've read so many posts about the reasons you won't get your children....the side affects, mercury, autism.

This website lists the vaccines and their side effects

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/side...

This website lists the diseses and the effects of the diseses your child could get if not vaccinated, find the disease and see if you would rather your child have that or the other. http://www.emedtv.com/



Your child may never get sick without being vaccinated....but they could! Just like the might get the worst side effect of the vaccine. Do your research and then remember you decision just doesn't affect your child, it affects a household, a neighborhoon, a city...etc

Tiffany - posted on 05/07/2009

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I'm gonna put a question out there, and I want everyone to be %100 HONEST. If there was a cancer vaccine, that would guarantee that your child would not contract cancer, or had a lessened chance for it, but still posed the "risks" as normal vaccines. Would you get it for your child?

Tiffany - posted on 05/07/2009

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Quoting April:

It seems like everyone agrees to hold off or completely avoid having their child immunized. I think this is absolutely crazy. I don't mean to offend anyone but the immunizations are out there for the safety of your child and that of other children. I just spent a clinical rotation at a pediatrician's office as a graduating nurse as of next week and was shocked to find out the number of parents that refuse immunizations for their children.

It is true that there are some immunizations out there that still contain trace amounts of mercury and if you are concerned about that you should find a pediatrician that offers shots without it and they are all in a transition phase to go solely to mercury free shots in the near future.

I am also a mother of two and have had my children vaccinated. Someone mentioned the side effects from the immunizations being a reason for deferring them- they are generally mild and include such things as localized redness, soreness, and low grade fever. Would you rather your child become seriously ill than have some mild discomfort for a day or two?

Is everyone here deferring all shots or just certain ones and if so, which ones?

As far as the POSSIBLE autism link with immunizations which let me remind everyone is not proven- some of the diseases that a child could get w/o immunizations, can be life threatening versus an autism possibility which is not life threatining.

Breastfeeding does NOT protect your child against these diseases for 6-9 months. It does contain antibodies and provide passive immunity to the things that the mother has either had or been immunized against but not those in which she hasn't- this is a very important factor to keep in mind. Babies' immune systems are capable of functioning after about 2 months which is why immunizations are begun at this time. Please please please get accurate information before deferring any shots and talk to your child's doctor about the pro's and con's. It is for their safety and that of other children.



THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!! I have an 8 month old, and she is up to date on all of her shots, and will continue to get ALL of them!! I do not believe that shots are linked to autism, because anymore if somenoe's child is the least bit out of control, or hyper, its automatic autism and add. I think it is ridiculous to not vaccinate anymore. Case in point, a few months ago, my daughter had Whooping cough. A very old time thing, and dr's had stopped vaccinating for. So .. if everyone quits vaccinating for things, they are bound to come back. And that is not fair to the parents and children who do the responsible thing and vaccinate there children. Sorry if i offended anyone, but this is just my opinon! 

Jane - posted on 05/07/2009

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Hi. I have three children - 9, 4 and 2 years old. All have them have had the designated vaccines. The one that concerned me most was the MMR. I read the literature but was still unsure. In the end I 'phoned my uncle, who is in the medical profession and asked if he'd had his children vaccinated. He just said to me that if I was in any doubt that I should go to the children's ward at his hospital and look at those extremely ill children who had the diseases covered by the vaccinations and that would be enough to make me decide. There can be side effects I know but I would prefer to think I had prevented them joining those children in hospital than not. Hope this helps you.

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Hi Kim, youre definitely NOT crazy for not agreeing with immunizations - a growing number of parents are questioning them. Protect your baby by breastfeeding for as long as possible - it offers fantastic health as well as nutrition benefits. Give your baby organic healthy food wherever possible and spend plenty of time in the fresh air and sunshine. My older children had such horrific reactions to vaccines and long term health problems that I decided not to vaccinate my youngest - they are robustly healthy and Im only sorry I allowed any of my kids to be jabbed. I now know that vaccines are not only bad for your health but not effective either.

www.insidevaccines.com is a good informative site.

Its your child...your choice! Best wishes.

Amanda - posted on 05/07/2009

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They were talking about this on "The Doctors" last night, and how some people think that immunizations may be related to autism..... I don't know what I think about this, and I got both of my kids their immunizations on schedule with no problems.... however one thing they did suggest was going back to the 1989 schedule?? It was less, I don't know exactly, but sortof what Alicia and Jessica said. I do agree that you do NEED to get some of them.

Christin - posted on 05/07/2009

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Honestly, you should get them as long as your child is to young to make the decisions for themselves. Not getting them in some cases can cause life long complications. Who are you to punish your child with a life long disease or infertility since you chose not to get them vaccinated? Get them until the child is like 10, then let them decide for themselves, after they have had a chance to read up on their options so they make and informed decision. My mothers cousins were never vaccinated and have suffered severe complications even into adulthood. Do not put your child through this. All of them got their children vaccinated so they would not have to go through what they went though

Leigh - posted on 05/07/2009

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it is up to you but my last baby caught whooping cough before her first immunization. It was a tough time watching your child trying to breath but not being able to. She was hospitalised for about 5 days but the cough lasted 6 months. She has been diagnosed as Autistic and I sometimes wonder if the lack of oxygen she got is the reason???

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i think immunisations are not only necessary for your kid, but with him not having them you might put younger children that are too young for immunisation in danger. immunisation works as a so called herd protection, you need 95% immune people to achieve total immunisation for younger ones. that people stop having their children immunised is e.g. the reason for measles a potentially deadly disease to have come back. think about it, but the choice ultimately is yours. in the past centuries so many children died because we didnt have that chance. you dont want to have to ask yourself if your child gets sick what you could have done.

Heather - posted on 05/07/2009

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of course your not crazy, everyone has different opinions. but i believe that my pediatrician knows whats best for my baby, more so than me.after all she is an expert on the category. i think that immunizations are good because there are alot of sicknesses out there and the immunizations help keep our babies healthy.

Amanda - posted on 05/07/2009

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I use to be against immunization, but I have learned my lesson the hard way. My oldest daugther got all her shots on time and none were withheld, but my son only got the shots he needed for entering school (MMR) and it was delayed until school. BIG MISTAKE! A few years ago my immunized daugther brought home chicken pox from school, she was fine. She got 10 to 20 poxs, and was able to go to back to school shortly afterwards, my son whom was not immunized for chicken pox, got scarey sick! He had poxs everywhere inculding in his mouth, nose, ears, anus. His fevers were insane, and he was bed ridden for 2 weeks. The fear and guilt I felt, I promised him and my whole family I would never make such an unsafe choice again for any of my children. Our 10 month old has not miss a shot, and our older children are now fully up to date with all shots. So think long and hard before you make a choice that can endanger your childrens health.

Patricia - posted on 05/07/2009

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Not crazy! I have three kids, the oldest is 7 yrs. old. I have not immuinized any of them and they are doing great. When they start attending school, all you have to do is type up a letter to exempt you from it for "reasons of conscience"...you can find it online, send it in to the state, they will send you back official forms exempting your child. Have those notorized and they serve as your child's records at school. Its a personal decision, but I know I have NOT regretted it.

Sarah - posted on 05/07/2009

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I think if you give to many shots their immune system has no chance to develop and keep them healthy. I only give the shots required for school but let them both have the chicken pocks when they where little so now they dont require the immunization.

Julieanne - posted on 05/07/2009

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i don't think you're crazy but what do you prefer a baby with continuous preventative illnesses or a healthy baby with some fevers.

Krista - posted on 05/07/2009

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Do not live your life in fear. Everything has risks. Everything. Vaccinating has risks. Not vaccinating has risks. You risk your child dying in a car accident everytime you strap him into his carseat. You risk him being abducted everytime you turn for even a split second. You risk him breaking his neck and being paralyzed for life the first (and second, and every) time he uses the stairs. And on and on. You CANNOT put your child in a bubble, and you cannot protect him for everything, no matter how much you want to. Being a mom is really scary. Really, really scary, because there is always a risk that something will happen to your angel.

The very best thing you can do is weigh the risks and go with the course with risks you are comfortable with. With vaccinations, for me, it is simply a numbers game. If I did not vaccinate, then my child is more likely to catch a serious, debilitating, deadly disease than if I did vaccinate. Easy one. Vaccinate. Is there a chance of nasty side effects with vaccinations? Yes. Is there a greater chance of getting the nasty disease without the vaccinations. YES! Either way, you don't get a zero chance of illness. So pick the option with LESS chance of illness. Vaccination.

And to the people that say we have a "natural" immunity to these diseases, that is a giant load of hooey. Millions and millions of people in the world over the years die from these diseases. IF we had natural immunities, then we wouldn't have epidemics or pandemics. Common sense! It is true that some diseases aren't really found in the west anymore, like Polio, but that is because of vaccinating. Eradicating disease through vaccination simply does not work if a lot of people don't do it. Vaccinations are not a simple "personal" choice. It's a choice about the welfare of your society and your community, as well as the health of your child.

Donna - posted on 05/06/2009

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I am replying to Alicia about the comment on Hep B. Here is a clip from google.

Hepatitis B virus is transmitted by contact with blood or body fluids of an infected person – the same way as the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV). However, HBV is 50 to 100 times more infectious than HIV.

The main ways of getting infected with HBV are:

* perinatal (from mother to baby at the birth)
* child-to-child transmission
* unsafe injections and transfusions
* sexual contact.

Shari - posted on 05/06/2009

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I was greatly encouraged to read the number of people who refuse or delay vaccinations. It's funny to me that those who do not vaccinate are accused of giving in to irrational fear, when it is in fact fear that drives the vaccination industry.
But anyway, here's my take.
I had my first child immunized on schedule with no reactions other than mild irritation. My second child had regular shots for a while. And then I got to thinking and researching. My reason to stop vaccinating is different than most. I don't fear the side effects because the side effects of the diseases are worse than for the vaccines. What first caught my attention is the very low actual effectiveness of vaccines. This was demonstrated in our family recently, when we got chicken pox. My oldest, who had been immunized, was the worst case in the group. Two who had not been immunized didn't get it at all. So what is the point in having the shot? Doctors will say that the pox would have been worse if the oldest hadn't had the shot, but how can you prove that?
Then, the icing on the cake was when I discovered that most (not all) of American vaccines are grown on aborted baby tissue. That's not something I'm going to support.

My last pediatrician, who was the wisest kindest woman, confided to me that while she couldn't recommend not getting vaccinated or she would lose her standing with the American Academy of Pediatrics, she had stopped vaccinating her own children many years ago after doing her own research. And when she said research, she wasn't talking about browsing websites; she was talking about medical journals and clinical studies.
FWIW, we are a military family and are overseas now. We had no trouble with our move in regards to the vaccinations.

Kerri - posted on 05/06/2009

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I chose to get both of boys vaccinated as although the vaccines aren't 100% effective they are able to greatly reduce the severity of the disease if my boys were to catch measles etc. I do think it is the right of parents to choose by my position is that these vaccines were created to help either irradicate or reduce the severity of diseases which used to cause a large number of deaths or enormous health problems to those who contracted them. I figure that as long as my boys don't have a bad reaction then i would rather get them vaccinated and give them a chance to fight off a disease than them get really sick or even die. I also want to vaccinate as i would hate to put others at risk if my child was to contract a disease which they could have been vaccinated against especially pregnant mothers as things like rubella can seriously harm the growing feotus.

Kristine - posted on 05/06/2009

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I think some immunizations are a must because of serious complications if they were to get the disease. I never heard of mercury being in vaccines till I read it on here though and if they get the mercury out of them then maybe the side effects of the immunizations would be even less and if that were the case I don't see why anyone wouldn't want to get there child immunized. Just like anything though the research needs to be done on things before we know what will happen with them. People didn't know cigarette smoke was bad for them for a long time and now they know but then why do people keep smoking? Also why do people continue to buy toxic products for their home when they could get safer alternatives that cost the same or even less in some cases. I have heard from some people that the reason for that is because they like what they are using. My point in all this is that while some people think that people are crazy for not getting their child vaccinated they are not necissarily correct. Some people think people who use non-toxic products are crazy because "we are all going to die anyway" which in my opinion is stupid but everyone has their own reasons for doing or not doing things and with the mercury being in vaccines and maybe also if your family has had complications with the vaccines in the past I do not think it is crazy at all if you choose not to get your child vaccinated because even if they are exposing other children the chances of that happening are very small and it may hurt your child more if you did get the vaccines. I think you should just do your research and talk to your doctor. If you are still unsure then talk to another doctor but still get the ones that could be life threating if not gotten.



Hope that made sense.

Cathy - posted on 05/06/2009

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Actually, I found a website, marytocco.com that addresses the question whether immunizations do anything. She is a doctor who has been researching this for 20+ years. I have found other supporting documentation out there in the research I have been doing. Based on my finding, I will not have any more vaccines given to my kids.

I am working with an organization that is trying to require hospitals in Illinois to inform parents of the dangers of vaccines within hours of childbirth, so that they can make an informed decision of whether to immunize at that time or not. The information I have received about vaccines is frightening, and very misleading, to me. If you go to the medical community for answers, they are going to give you the standard line: immunize! If your child is injured from the vaccines, you have no recourse against the administrator of the shots. You need to go beyond the medical community to find the real truth about vaccines. Check out http://www.vaccineawareness.org for more information. Good luck in your quest for answers.

Jolene - posted on 05/06/2009

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I do not think your crazy at all! And I cannot begin to explain how frustrating it is to me to hear people say things like "oh you don't vaccinate because of Jenny Mcarthy or other media" "homeschool your kids, it's not fair to expose our children" "do real medical research"

I have done extensive research and I do not believe any parent who doesn't vaccinate would make such a desision without being very well informed. I don't disagree with vaccines just because of the autism link, there are numerous other reasons. And no, I will not homeschool my child because I choose not to vaccinate. Just because a child isn't vaccinated doesn't mean they are walking diseases. I don't think there are many people out there who would send their child to school if they did become sick will something like measles or mumps and expose other children. People are also forgetting the fact that some of these vaccines are LIVE VIRUS shots, in turn unvaccinated children are told to stay away from a child who has just recieved them because the vaccinated child is the carrier in this case!

As for the autism link, it has not been disproved in my opinion as they have only tested 2 different vaccines and 1 ingredient.

Just do as much research as possible before making a desison, don't give into scare tactics and remember if it doesn't feel right--it probably isn't! Good luck!!!

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Alison, I wasn't trying to imply that you weren't doing enough research on vaccines - on the contrary, I could tell from your post that you're trying to learn as much as you can. I just know that GR was one of the first things I came across when I started my research, and their Vaccine Phone Survey really scared me - until I actually looked at their survey data (which I'd suggest doing yourself, since they don't report the data honestly in their summary page). There are lots of good sources of info on all sides of this issue out there, I just don't think GR is one of them. Good luck in your research!

Kris - posted on 05/06/2009

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Personally, I give my baby vaccinations. A vaccine may not completely prevent the onset of a disease, but it will reduce its severity. It has been said that misinformation about vaccine safety puts your child and public health at risk.



I read this on http://children.webmd.com/vaccines/news/...



Sears tells WebMD that Offit and others have misunderstood his book, and that he believes in vaccines recommended by the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) and other medical organizations. He says he plans to write a rebuttal to Offit's article for submission to Pediatrics.



"I almost see myself as an ally of the AAP in that I'm finding ways to encourage parents who otherwise would not vaccinate [their children] to go ahead and vaccinate," Sears says. "I believe that my options will actually increase the vaccination rate. My book is admittedly not pro the AAP's vaccine schedule. My advice does differ in the way vaccines are given, but ultimately, I agree that vaccines should be given. For parents afraid of the way AAP says to do it, I give them an alternative."



He says "there is no science that is conclusive enough to show any links between vaccines and autism" but that his book provides "ways to vaccinate if you are worried about autism that may decrease the theoretical link if you believe there is such a link."



I don't think your crazy for being cautious. That's what mothers do. I think it would be crazy for a mother not to care. :D



Just as long as you have a healthy baby that is all anyone can ask for.

Kate CP - posted on 05/06/2009

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Even if you don't get the other infant vaccines, you should still vaccinate for tetanus. Not necessarily the multi-vaccine but just tetanus. You can get tetanus from anything, not just rusty metal, and it's something every kid has to have in order to get stitches. If nothing else get tetanus.

Melinda - posted on 05/06/2009

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Hi Kim,
I have an 18 month old daughter who my husband and I have chosen not to vaccinate. We did research on the immunizations and found some components in the vaccines that we weren't comfortable pumping through our babies veins. And we're so glad we made the right decision because she has only had 1 cold, no ear infections, no flus of any kind, etc - She is completely HEALTHY! The little ones that I care for in my job have all had vaccinations and are sick ALL the time - constant sniffles and coughs. IF you chose to have your baby vaccinated, I highly recommend going to a natural health food store and getting something to detox so that the unnecessary chemicals don't do permanent damage. A friend of mine did this and her kids are healthier than most and if I vaccinate my daughter before Kindergarten, that's what we'll do with her as well. Hope this helps. :)

Alison - posted on 05/06/2009

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Quoting Jenifer:

Sorry, but Generation Rescue is pure propaganda. I know lots of moms have their reasons for delaying or doing selective vaccinations, but listening to Jenny McCarthy is not the way to become informed on the subject. That site is full of so much pseudo-science, it is absurd. As others have mentioned, if you're interested in delayed/selective vaccinations, check out Dr Sears instead.


Hey Jenifer! I didn't mean to suggest that relying soley on the information on Generation Rescue's website was the way to go. I, like a lot of moms, am not as informed as I'd like to be. I would encourage any mom out there contemplating immunizations to do as much research as possible. All I wanted to share was what I read this morning on that site was informative as far as alternatives, that's all! I would hope that no one just reads one article or one website or takes one person's opinion and goes on that... I will be sure to check out Dr Sears as you've suggested. Thanks =)

Alison - posted on 05/06/2009

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Quoting Jenifer:

Sorry, but Generation Rescue is pure propaganda. I know lots of moms have their reasons for delaying or doing selective vaccinations, but listening to Jenny McCarthy is not the way to become informed on the subject. That site is full of so much pseudo-science, it is absurd. As others have mentioned, if you're interested in delayed/selective vaccinations, check out Dr Sears instead.


Hey Jenifer! I didn't mean to suggest that relying soley on the information on Generation Rescue's website was the way to go. I, like a lot of moms, am not as informed as I'd like to be. I would encourage any mom out there contemplating immunizations to do as much research as possible. All I wanted to share was what I read this morning on that site was informative as far as alternatives, that's all! I would hope that no one just reads one article or one website or takes one person's opinion and goes on that... I will be sure to check out Dr Sears as you've suggested. Thanks =)

Gena - posted on 05/06/2009

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Each parent needs to make their own decision on this topic but I do not vaccinate my children after much research. I had a child who had a serious reaction at age 12 months to her shots and then never again. FYI, you do have a choice! Most states have waivers that you can sign to opt out of the shots. Contact your state health dept. and they can send them to you. Also, don't believe the lie that your child not getting shots can give the disease to other children. If their shots so well then why should they be worried?

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Sorry, but Generation Rescue is pure propaganda. I know lots of moms have their reasons for delaying or doing selective vaccinations, but listening to Jenny McCarthy is not the way to become informed on the subject. That site is full of so much pseudo-science, it is absurd. As others have mentioned, if you're interested in delayed/selective vaccinations, check out Dr Sears instead.

Alison - posted on 05/06/2009

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Hi there! I wasn't informed too well on the risks of immunizations. I have gotten all of my son's recommended shots up until 1 year. At his first birthday party last Sunday, I got into this topic with a lot of girlfriends. Almost every one of them know someone with a child who had adverse effects. I do believe that children do need to be vaccinated to a certain extent, but not 3-4 + at a time. It just so happened I turned on the TV today and saw a talk show touching this very subject. I watched it and called to cancel my son's 1 year immunization appointment. I just wanted to be more informed. On the TV show was Jenny McCarthy, which if you haven't heard, had a son who was 'perfectly normal' and started getting his immunizations and developed autism. This topic is so controversial and I am in no way informed enough to sway anyone one way or another, but thought I'd share what I learned. I went to Jenny McCarthy's website: http://www.generationrescue.org/ and learned that there is a happy medium. I didn't want to just go in blindly anymore and get my son the 36 immunizations he's supposed to get in his childhood. However, I didn't think it was too responsible to not get him immunized at all. There are alternatives that meet in the middle. One suggests reverting back to the 1989 schedule which only included 10 immunizations. Check out the website, do research, and be informed! I think that's the best way to go about things. And, always trust the mom instinct! That's what made me cancel my son's MMR appointment.. Just didn't feel right and I didn't want to regret it later. Take care! Hope this helped!!

Amy - posted on 05/06/2009

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Quoting Allison:

http://www.jamesfamilychiropractic.com/m...


I'm sorry, but this is exactly what was meant by "biased references" in the earlier post.  Have YOU read the articles cited?  Or the more recent work by the authors?  If not, you should before you post this without comments or caveats. 



1)  Medical work done in the seventies is not applicable now in this field.  The vaccines are totally different and the field has progressed lightyears.  So look at the most current articles and article reviews. 



2) The website is a chiropractor.  I see one, as does my husband, for back issues, so I know they do good work.  But they are not pediatricians.  I wouldn't ask my neurologist to align my back, or my chiropractor to do neurosurgery.  You have to look at the work and words of the people that spend their lives in an area.  This is the same reason to avoid or ignore celebrities.  They are very good at their jobs, but they are not doctors.  They are, at best, dilletantes and, at worst, clueless.  Think Tom Cruise and his knowledge of post partum depression.  He has never had a child and post partum depression, and never studied psychology or obstectrics.  Why is he an expert again?

Amy - posted on 05/06/2009

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I absolutely agree with the idea of an alternate schedule. In fact, if you are concerned about safety, many pediatricians can get the vaccines as separate shots instead of combined. It is easier on the immune system, evidently, to only worry about one at a time, but it means a lot more visits, shots, and expense (co-pays per visit, etc). One of the kids in my neighborhood was in the NICU for several months and still gets sick easily, so he got them separated that way. If you are concerned, talk to a couple of pediatricians in your area for options.

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There isn't mercury in vaccines anymore. Truly the only alternative to vaccines is praying your kid doesn't die (or live with horrible complications like paralysis, hearing loss, vision loss, loss of limbs, mental retardation etc) from a preventable disease. Talk to your doctor about which ones can be skipped (like rotavirus) and spreading them out more if you don't mind coming to office more often.

Kimberly - posted on 05/06/2009

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My four year old had to have the menigitis vaccine to have the surgery she will be having in a week. If she didn't have the vaccine, the doctor wouldn't do the surgery. So she got the vaccine.



I don't think any of us who vaccinate our children are trying to make the mothers who choose not to vaccinate look ignorant or whatever. It is that your choice to not vaccinate b/c of the side effects of those vaccines versus the side effects of not getting the vaccine does not add up. You are saying you want to protect your child...but in doing what you say is protecting, you are endangering other children. Thank back to the polio epidemic in this country, or research it and then tell us that vaccines are too dangerous. The development of vaccines was so that the children did not have to suffer or die from diseses that are preventable from vaccines.

As for Dr. Sears....he does not say to not get your child vaccinated, he offers an alternative schedule. I'm sorry but I would rather put my child through getting shots once every few months rather than every couple of weeks. Neither of my children have had any reactions to any vaccines....no fever, redness, or soreness.

If it is the autism link to vaccines....there isn't one. There is no cause as of right now for autism. Yes the number of autistic children has grown. But is that b/c of the number of vaccines we give our children or b/c more doctors are diagnosing children as autistic. Yes, I'm sorry for those children who have autism, ADHD, or ADD. I have a special needs child myself. But do you think that some children are diagnosed with one of these, but really it is just their personality....I think as parents if our child is acting out and won't settle down, something has to be wrong with them. I know this brings up a whole new line of disscusion and I'm sorry.

The vaccines are there to protect our children, now and in the future.

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OK, I was going to shut up, but I have to point this out. First, the worry is not about over IMMUNIZING it is about over use of antibiotics. That is the difference between a natural "runners high" from working out and shooting up. Immunizations utilize the bodies natural response to bacteria and viruses to create antibodies- the vacine is a weakened or killed version of the particular microbe. Antibiotics kill bacteria via several different mechanisms, none of which is used by the body to fight the bacteria. Not all of them die, and we get resistant strains as a result. The body's immune system is a much more refined and targeted system.

Second, I am of two minds about the decision not to vaccinate. On the one hand, if you want your child vunerable to the plagues of the past, that is between you and them. I've had whooping cough as an adult and it incapacitated me for several months. A baby would probably not make it- there was too much buildup in the lungs and tightening of the bronchial tubes. You want to watch your child go through that, your choice. On the other hand, by not vaccinating you are reducing the Herd Immunity the rest of us count on and it puts the rest of our children at risk. If the levell of immunity gets below about 70%, the disease can get a foothold and overcome the immunity in vaccinated individuals. So if mumps gets hold in your kids school, you could be responsible for other peoples' kids dying, too.

Look at the research- ignore the celebrities- then decide.

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Quoting Emily:



Quoting April:

:-) I guess working in the health profession, you definitely see some strange things. I never realized how many people did not vaccinate until recently and for certain things I have no problem with such as Chickenpox. Chickenpox is not a fun things to have but it is not something that is life threatening and frankly not that long ago there wasn't a vaccine and we all just got the disease and suffered with oatmeal baths for a few days and were fine. The thing I have a problem with is people who defer all shots because of dumb reasons like you say and are putting the possibility of getting life threatening illnesses back into our world when they should pretty much be extinct. A good example in my mind is the immunization against Meningitis which can effect the spinal cord and brain- not to protect our children against that is just terrifiying to me.





Menengitis scares the crap out of me- alwsys has. Since you are in the health field I am curious- why do you supposed that one is not "required" like some of the others?





To answer your question- I think the main reason it is not yet required is because of it being one of the newer immunizations compared to many of the others. It is also done at a much older age, at least where I live, between 11-13 years. The biggest thing that worries me is the parents who defer ALL immunizations simply because they do not want the chemical ingredients introduced into their children's body. When it comes to having an immunization with mild side effects versus a life threatening illness I really hope that parents understand the consequences that could result no matter how likely or unlikely. If people choose to defer the ones that are contagious but generally not life threatening such as Chicken Pox, that is their decision and not a real threat to society as long as they keep their child isolated during that time. Hib is another one that I think people should really take a close look at before refusing. No one is trying to attack anyone here- we are all just doing the best we can to take care of our children the best we can. The flu shot is another that I would guess many people do not get and I think that is a reasonable one to skip as well since there are so many different strains and mutuations of the virus. There are some circumstances that medically cause children to be unable to receive vaccines such as a child that is taking steroids because that causes their immune systems to be weakened. All I ask is for everyone to make an INFORMED decision in regards to the immunizations and do not just follow the current trend of what others do. I absolutely do not support ALL shots being refused and I do think you are endangering your children and others for certain illness that should be extinct. Use good judgment!

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Amanda, not sure if you're in the US or not, but every state has different laws. So the simple answer is no, you do not need to have immunizations to go to public school, because there are usually religious or philosophical exemptions available. Daycare and private schools may require immunizations. You'd have to check the local laws.

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Is it really true that you cannot take your children to a public school/daycare if your children are not vaccinated? I have heard this from health care professionals and members of the school board but I don't know if there are exceptions like in the case that your child(ren) aren't vaccinated.

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