I'm going spare: - Please help

Amanda - posted on 11/29/2012

Look at how much she sleeps during the daytime. Its normal for an 11 month old to wake up at night but adjusting her daytime naps may help. During the night, don't encourage playtime, keep the lights off and reinforce that its sleepytime. Also juice is not good at bedtime, she's still little so give her milk/formula instead. When she gets older, switch to water for night. Better for her teeth.

Linda - posted on 11/27/2012

Put her in her own room

Lisa - posted on 11/15/2012

Thank you everyone for the continued suport help and advice. For the past 4 nights i've been putting her in her cot, First night I bathed her around 8pm, gave her her formula brushed her teeth and popped her into the cot and she went straight to sleep. She woke at midnight, 3am and 5:30am. Second night same routine bathed, milk, brushed teeth and bed for 8:30pm again went to sleep straight away and woke at 4:30am gave her some milk and she went back til 6am so we got up, 3rd night bath, milk, teeth poped in cot, this time she decided to get up and throw her dummy out and just stand there muttering, I popped her back down and did this several times, she was having none of it, so I walked out of the room for a few minutes, she kept jabbering to herself then started screaming, I went back in put her dummy in and laid her down, still not having it so made a few more 0zs milk and she finally went off, around 9:30pm, woke at 3:30am gave milk then woke again at 7:30am, lastnight same routine took 7oz of milk this time though and went to sleep after only a few poping her back down with dummy then woke at 3:30am and 6:30am and got up at 7am. She has 2 naps a day but they don't last more than an hour each. This routine seems to be working at least she's in her cot now and she doesn't have much juice after any from day to day.. she'll drink water if shes thirsty or ill do her a weak cup of tea as been told that's ok and she sometimes takes to it and other times she won't.

Illona - posted on 11/14/2012

Oh, he doesn't drink anything during the night, so cannot be waking up for that out of habit.

Illona - posted on 11/14/2012

I have a 17 month old boy who is a terrible sleeper too. Could get him to sleep during the day only after about 4 months (he had colic, was crying constantly during the day for 4 months). Now, he takes one nap during the day (no problems, just put him in the cot with a bottle and walk away). He also goes to bed at night at about 8 pm, same routine as during the day. He then wakes up anything from 2 to 5 times a night. He screams like mad, and doesn't always settle when I pick him up. I tried everything and anything and nothing seems to work. He has slept through the night about 6 nights in the 17 months. On those nights his routine was exactly the same as the ohter nights.

All kids are different and you need to do what works for you. It's all about survival. My 6-year old daughter was so much easier in many ways. It is easy to judge other people or to give advice thinking what someone else does is stupid, but I'm sure all moms try their best.

Hm - posted on 11/14/2012

I put on our Fisher Price Lullaby CD and pace back and forth holding her without saying anything. If she's upset, I shh constantly. Even doing this to any music she likes works awesome.

Janelle - posted on 11/14/2012

My son woke me up every night for 2 years. Try a pacifier and instead of juice or milk try just plain water. Also it helped my daughter when I tied her pacifier to her blanket. She learned how to find it herself. Also, my son didn't sleep through the night until we made the "big boy" decision to put it away.

Holly - posted on 11/14/2012

juice has WAY TOO MUCH SUGAR for bed time!!! let her play in her crib until she falls asleep... there is nothing wrong with that

Ronel - posted on 11/14/2012

Good luck Girls, let me know when you had a break through!

Jennifer - posted on 11/14/2012

Hi Lisa, i have the same problem with my little one shes 3 and for two years been sleeping with me in my bed, she wakesup some times for 3 hours at night, i give her drinks but nothing help. im so tired in the mornings because its hard to do this everynight. i put the tv on for her, so im able to go to sleep and then she go to sleep NOT A GOOD IDEA, but sometimes you just have to do whats best for you untill your little one gets used to sleeping all night long, GOOD LUCK TO US!!!!!

Ronel - posted on 11/14/2012

If she is just lying there staring, leave her, she will fall asleep sooner or later.

Ronel - posted on 11/14/2012

I know this might sound weird, but try soy milk or rice milk, they are disgusting to me but my son took to it no problem. Soy milk is very healthy, its got the iron, magnesium and calsium needed. Just see if it works. If that does not work, I dont know where you are from, but where i am from you get the rooibos tea milkshake, you get the different flavours like strawberry and chocolate, rooibos is very good for you and the little bit of chocolate or strawberry will be better than the juice. Or what my son also loves is rooibos tea mixed with milk. you can mix it with her formula that way she still gets the nutrients from formula and rooibos tea is VERY good for her, there is no negative side to it.

Nothile - posted on 11/13/2012

sleeping with you is not a problem but you should put a stop in her drinking of juice during sleeping hours rather you guys share jokes or anything surely she will fall asleep sooner than you can expect.

Andrea - posted on 11/13/2012

I think your number one problem is letter her sleep with you. You need to put her in her own bed/crib.

Connie - posted on 11/13/2012

You've heard several responses regarding the juice's sugar content keeping her awake on a sugar high, which is most likely true. It is also true that they often go through a phase like this around 11 months, and that water is really the only thing that should be given at sleep time. One thing I haven't seen mentioned that I would like to add is that it is now recommended that children not get ANY juice until the age of 4. Why? Because not only is it concentrated sugar, it is also concentrated ACID. Fruit juice is highly acidic and young digestive systems are simply not geared up to handle it. Given the quantity you have been giving, she could even have been having some digestive issues and mild discomfort as her body has tried to process it. Otherwise, excellent advice on here so far. Best of luck.

Rebecca - posted on 11/13/2012

As u know no juice but i have three boys and at your little ones age u could try her own big girl bed in the same room my kids at 1 went from crib to a twin bed because they could climb out my 9 month old doesnt like the plastic feel so i put a folded blanket UNDER THE SHEET..... It help but he likes our bed better but for safety resons i dont let him sleep all night with us unless hes having alot of siezures and my husband is at work

Tiana - posted on 11/13/2012

Do u allow her 2 sleep alot during the day if so thiers yur problm. Im mean its ok 2 let her take a nap but time it let her take mayb a 1hr nap then wake her up yurself bu hve 2 tire her out durin the day.

Bianca - posted on 11/13/2012

My 11 month old girl wakes constantly at night. Our bedtime routine is bath at 5.30 pm, then dinner then she plays. I have four older children so they all play together then. We all eat dinner together and she has more food, usually veggies she feeds herself. I take her be at 6.30-7pm. She wears a sleeping bag over her pajamas and I Place her in her cot. Her cot is next to my bed as we only have 3 bedrooms. She puts herself to sleep. However at 8.30pm she wakes screaming so she has a bottle of formula and goes straight back to sleep. She also wakes at 11.30pm and 3.30 am and I give her a bottle. I have tried my bed, offering water and letting her scream. My older four children, 15, 11, 8 and 7 all slept through.

At this stage I just go with it. She refuses milk during the day, I offer water in a sippy cup. She is good eater and will eat anything I offer. I have been doing this routine for 6 months now, it works for both of us. You will just need to find something that works for you both and go with it. They grow up too fast.

Kimberly - posted on 11/12/2012

I'm sorry....I meant to say, I have no doubt you're a great mom!!!! Lol-long day. ;)

Kimberly - posted on 11/12/2012

Everything's easier said than done. No doubt you're a great mom. I've learned with my strong willed child, who is now almost 4, sometimes it takes a few rough nights to get them to do what they should. She is still young, so be patient, but make sure she's not taking long naps late in the day, and stay away from sugar (juice). She'll get used to you laying down the law-she's old enough to understand. :). Good luck.

Sally - posted on 11/12/2012

Human babies are biologically designed to sleep next to mom. Making them sleep alone is very new in human history and very much in the minority worldwide. It's also not very healthy for them (or for you). While the modern Western bed can be a falling and smothering hazard, that's easy to fix and it sounds like you already have fixed it. Also, adults don't even sleep "through the night". We've just conditioned ourselves to not notice most of our waking.

If you both get the rest you need with her in her bed, do what's best for your family.

Maggie - posted on 11/12/2012

Also look at her bedtime. Are you expecting more sleep than she needs? Is she taking one nap or two? If she's still taking two maybe it is time to drop one so she is sleepier at night.

Amber - posted on 11/11/2012

For her health, you really shouldn't get in the habit of putting her to bed with anything other then water. Anything in a bottle (formula, milk, juice) can rot and make teeth decay. When they sip on a bottle, all the sugars in the drink settle around the teeth and gums. I started brushing my children's teeth when they were really young. I would always feed them their formula and then brush their teeth (with safe to swallow toothpaste...non-fluoride) and put them to bed. Just thought you should be aware.. Bad oral health can really contribute to a lot of different illnesses, heart issues and other issues. http://www.therabreath.com/articles/news...

Colleen - posted on 11/11/2012

Since she's already 12mos old try giving her milk. Not during the night though because of the sugar and rotting her teeth. If you do give her juice during the day or if its hard to break the night habit dilute it with alot of water..As far as sleeping, do whatever works so you both get a good nights sleep. My daughter started waking up at 6 mos and I would lay with her in our spare room and she would sleep more sound than in her crib. You have to do what works. If you don't want her in your bed you may have to listen to her cry for a few nights until she gets used to it.

Yael - posted on 11/11/2012

An 11 months old should not be getting juice, especially not at night. Juice has sugar, even if it's 100% fruit juice and sugar will keep her up. You should give her a bottle of breastmilk or formula (no cow's milk until 1 year old) and then clean her teeth and then put her down for the night. Going to sleep with a bottle could actually cause tooth decay and problems later on with permanent teeth. No issue with her sleeping with you as long as you have it done safely so she can't get wedged and suffocate or roll off the bed and get hurt. Both our boys slept with us until 1.5 years old. But juice is the worst thing you can give a baby and children in general. If she needs more liquids at night you can have a bottle with water. Some babies are bad sleepers. My boys didn't sleep through the night until 3 years old. It is what it is. It sucks for us moms but you can't force a child to sleep. What you can do though is teach her that she needs to stay quiet and she can't play at night. Good luck. I've been there...

Amy - posted on 11/11/2012

Stop letting her fall asleep with a bottle. I let my daughter do the same thing and now she's 4 and I have to cough up 500 out of pocket (after insurance) to fix her teeth. She needs more protein at dinner. Baby food with meat etc, along with formula etc will keep her full and asleep. Stop giving her juice late, even the natural sugar in fruit can keep her going.

Terry - posted on 11/11/2012

When my children were little, they didn't want to sleep in their beds so we made them beds on the floor next to ours. We all slept better that way. I would also try water instead of juice. It's too bad there isn't an instruction book for all the things we go through as moms. Hang in there. It does get easier.

Jennifer - posted on 11/11/2012

She is only doing it because you are letting her get away with it. Establish a firm bedtime routine and stick with it. I would give her juice before bed, then if she wants more WATER, when she is in bed. I do know it is easier sometimes to just to let them sleep with you. You have to be ready to be firm and strong. It will usually take you 3 days to break the habit you have created. You can do it - just decide what you want in the outcome to be. My mom always said disipline starts the day you come home from the hospital. Good Luck - stay positive!!!

Keri - posted on 11/11/2012

It's probably the fact that you come in several hours later and she "feels" your presence again. What do you do in the 2-3 hours between putting her to bed and going to bed yourself? If it's chores, obviously that can't be changed, but if you're just reading a book or taking a little "me" time, try to stay as close as possible for a while. She'll sleep through the night, as will you.

Michelle - posted on 11/11/2012

She will get cranky if she's not getting amount of juice she used to get as she's having withdrawals from the sugar. You need to be strong and just put up with the crankyness as it's for the better.

Sara - posted on 11/11/2012

Juice is full of TONS of sugar, that would explain why your little girl is not sleeping. Even if it's all natural with no sugar added, fruit itself makes it's own sugar and one glass is equal to one candy bar.

Would you feed your daughter a candy bar in the middle of the night? I don't think that you would, but that is essentially what you are doing with the juice. Either find a different kind of formula to drink, if she's really hungry, or let her cry it out. (That was the ONLY way I could get my son to sleep was to let him cry because he wasn't hungry- took about 5 nights of him waking up and crying, but after that, he slept through the night like a champ - until of course he started getting night terrors, but that's a whole different story).

Margaret - posted on 11/11/2012

This is not going to be easy but you need to get this child in her own bed and her own room if possible. She should not be drinking more than one juice bottle a day, they are loded with calories and a big cause of obesity. Put her on her own bed and read her a story or sing to her and let her have one bottle. Be firm and as soon as she realizes this is going to be the way it is she will go to sleep. You might talk to her doctor if she just won't sleep. Have a place that is play and a place that is sleep. At 11 months they know a lot and will learn but you have to be firm.

Wendy - posted on 11/11/2012

i have recently went through similar situation with my 11 month year old co sleeping with us. it was really interfering with my sleep as i just wasn't able to get a proper sleep when she was there. i resorted to going to the library and reading up on sleep solutions and it was the best thing ive ever done.



i really didn't want to do controlled crying technique, but gave it a go and it worked. i realised that when my daughter was waking at 11 ish and i was taking her into my bed, all i was teaching her was if i cry i get in with mum. if you think about it, where would you rather be, snuggled with mum or in a cot, so cant really blame her.



the first night i put her down and walked out, kept going back in every 3 mins, then 5 mins, then 8 mins, then 10mins until she went to sleep. trying my best not to pick her up( i did once as she was so so upset, id say to you just judge it, you know your own child) kept placing her back down, it went on for about 30 mins but then slept right though. the second night same technique for 20 mins and the 3rd night it only took 3 min of crying/moaning.



Every night i put her back down and set my alarm on my phone for 5 mins but shes always gives in crying after 30 secs now and goes back to sleep. i had to teach her that the cot was her sleep space and the bed was mine. it really was the best thing ive done. it was extremly hard and i was very upset the 1st and second night, but by the third i could see it was working. youve just got to stick with it, you can do it.



my new routine- as soon as bath time is done i take her into her room and do all bed time duties in there while her night light is playing soothing tunes. i then give her a story and a bottle of milk then say night night and place her in cot and walk out the room, she cries/moans for 30 secs and goes to sleep. always make sure i never leave her bedroom once we are there.



kinda lost my train of thought here, but hope u can take some positives from it. xx

Amanda - posted on 11/11/2012

My daughter was and still is a horrible sleeper! But I never gave her anything to drink in the middle of the night besides water in a sippy. The juice and milk can cause bottle rot, I had to put my daughter on a very structured schedule and she had to sleep her own room, in her bed. I started this after she turned one and still wasn't sleeping through the night or napping during the day. Routine and consistentsy saved me. Good luck

Jennifer - posted on 11/11/2012

I'll try to explain as best I can:) both my boys wake up between 7am-8. We get dressed for the day and have breakfast. We play, color, run around, go the library and shopping. We do all of our outside the house stuff in the morning BEFORE the tiredness sets in. We have lunch at 12:30 and then my 17 mo goes down for a nap for about an hour, (this gives me one on one time with my 2 1/2 yo) then it's snack, I usually let them watch 1/2 hour of Sesame Street and then we read and play with blocks. At 5:00 they go into their high chairs while I clean up the toys and make dinner. This step I feel is important, they watch me put the toys away- the signal that playtime is over for today. We eat dinner and they each get a bath. I nurse my 17 mo and put him in his crib awake. He puts himself to sleep. It didn't happen overnight, but I promise it will happen. I read to my 2 1/2 year old and he puts himself to bed. They are both asleep by 7:00pm every night. Also, I never skip the bath step, even if they aren't really dirty. It's a huge part of getting ready for sleep. I hope this helps! Also, if your daughter doesn't like plain white milk, my pediatrician recommended adding a little amount of chocolate syrup and decreasing the amount as she accepts the milk. That was the only way I could wean my son from BM.

Lisa - posted on 11/11/2012

Thanks Jennifer, words from someone whose gone through similar... its encouraging. I have stopped the juice, and have toda bought whole milk so will try that in the night when she wakes. If shes thirsty she'll drink it. At 5 months she too slept through the night but theres no chance of it now. What daily routine do you have from getting up, feeding them and then going back to bed at night maybe im missing something throughout the dya?

Jennifer - posted on 11/11/2012

Hi. Please stop the juice. It's not going to help. If your little one doesn't like the formula and is almost a year I would move toward giving whole milk instead. Also try a very consistent daytime schedule. Meals, naps etc. Babies love routine, so when bedtime comes its just another part of their routine, ie-"oh, it's time to sleep." Also some babies just aren't ready to sleep through the night at that age, but EVERY child is different. My 2 1/2 year old slept through the night at 4 months, but my second son is still waking at 17 months. It will pass, and soon you won't be able to get her out of bed! Lol. Good luck Mama. It gets better.

Lisa - posted on 11/11/2012

Thanks all for the continued responses, they are all helpful and ive taken note. As I recently said I didnt realise about the juice being bad for her and took it to bed with me as she was always thirsty and i just thought juice would quench it so didnt think anything of it. Now people have stated not to do it ill go to bed tonight with water. Ive just put her down in her cot and she drank 6oz of formula and gone to sleep, so will see how the night pans out once i get into bed. Im expecting tantrums and lots of crying until she gets used to it. I've cut out alot of her juice today too and shes been very testing but we've got threw. She is in her cot in my room as ive no room to put her in as my sister moved back and so she has the spare room.

Mayla - posted on 11/11/2012

It's a habit. But still you can manage to put it the right way.; I was just wondering why you gave her juice in late nights? it contains sugar/sweets to make her more active. Try to put her back to sleep and turn-off the light. It might take you 2-3 days of disturing nights to get this but it will difinitely worked. and though she wil have tantrums or not going back to sleep immediately just leave her on her own romom and let her cry until she fall asleep, do not go back to her and get her to put her into your bed instead as you pitied her 'coz as mom(s), that is our instinct (hate to hear them crying) but by disciplining like this they will realized that it will not work the way they woud like to be, but on our way. while she is still younger start to do this than having a hard time at nights. Avoid giving her some sweets esp. at nights and try to focus on letting her sleep on her own. you will see it will be effective and "less stress" for you. i hope this will add up ;)

Larissa - posted on 11/11/2012

Well i think most made clear that juice is a bad idea. It the sugars will keep her awake.

She enjoys being with you in bed because it probably calms her.. my tipp try putting something of yours in the crib with her i would recommened a pyjama top you have slept in( it will smell like you not the smells we put in but you you. The orginal mom scent). Put it in safely ofcourse like put her on it if you can tie it around the matress do that. So she cant get tanggeled up or all those bad things. That could realy help. Good luck!

Leza - posted on 11/11/2012

If you are in the same room then you may want to put her bed somewhere else at night. Try putting her to bed with a bottle of formula or whole milk, no juice, and let her lay until she falls asleep and if she wakes up, leave her. She'll eventually go back to sleep. If she's crying hysterically you can check on her to make sure nothing is really wrong then walk out of the room. Good luck.

Lisa - posted on 11/11/2012

Thank you very much guys, Amy, Kelina and Michelle especially, I didnt think the juice would be the problem but after people stating that, I can see it now. I'll try water. Formula shes on sma red top, I've been told to try her on real milk but was afraid of that as shes not 1 yet but its worth a try. I stopped her sleeping in her cot because as soon as i put her in it at night time she thought it meant to play and would kick the bars and get her feet trapped, then she'd just stand there screaming and crying even when i left her, so much so she'd end up choking from too much screaming/crying. It's going to be a rough couple of nights as ive got to try her again in her cot for her own safety, will replace juice with water and get milk if that doesnt work. She usually only drinks her milk when its first thing in the morning, for her second nap and before bed, any other times and she just spits it out.

Michelle - posted on 11/11/2012

The sugars in the juice would not be helping her sleep. It's really not recommended to be giving a lot of juice to children.



Have you tried her on normal milk? What milk does she have when you put her to bed? I would really try to get her off the juice. If she doesn't want milk then offer her water. No, she won't like it at first but that's because she's used to the sweetness of the juice but if that's all you offer her then she will soon take it.

Kelina - posted on 11/10/2012

I also really wouldn't recommend letting her cry or anything else like that. Maybe try the book the no cry sleep solution if you can't find anything else that works.

Kelina - posted on 11/10/2012

wow been a while since I've been on here but the attitudes haven't changed a bit! First for reasons others have stated in their not so wonderful manner juice isn't the best choice for putting her to sleep. surprisingly however, neither is formula. In the middle of the night, try water. If she won't take it don't stress, try not giving her anything and see what happens. So if she's waking up with you in bed it could be that her sleep is being disturbed because you're moving or because she's aware of you. Something you could try is putting her on her own mattress on the floor. If that still doesn't work is it possible for you to try her own room? If she's still waking frequently, then you'll need other ways to problem solve. One thing you might try though is don't interact with her when she wakes up. Just pretend you're still asleep. If you interact it could cause her to stay awake. Good luck I hope some of this helps!

Amy - posted on 11/10/2012

If she's not crying then I would let her be in her crib. That way she learns to self settle, there were some nights my daughter would be up babbling to herself for 45 minutes at night but I just let her be unless she started crying. I'm by no means judging you for co-sleeping because my kids crawl into bed with us in the middle of the night. I would get rid of the juice though, she's going to be mad but formula is what you should be offering, juice is just empty calories it's not offering any nutritional value. If you insist on continuing with the juice I would get her to the dentist sooner than later because Dove is right you are asking for cavities.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 11/10/2012

Well, la dee da.



Juice is not a replacement for formula. But I am sure you already know that also.

Dove - posted on 11/10/2012

Giving her juice all night is just asking for rotten teeth.



Not sleeping through the night at 11 months is actually quite common. None of mine slept through at that age.

Lisa - posted on 11/10/2012

She drinks juice because she doesn't like her formula. She'll only drink it when she goes for an afternoon nap, its hit and miss first thing in the morning when we get up and she'll drink it at night time before bed, other than that and she wont touch it. She is safe on my bed ive bed guards and she's always protected, i dont drink or smoke so no chance of going to bed drunk or high. Thanks for your reply but doesn't help in any way.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 11/10/2012

Well, giving her JUICE at night could be part of the problem. Really she should be getting formula or BM.



If you want to sleep with your kid, that is your business, just make sure she is safe. No chance of rolling off the bed or getting smothered by pillows or blankets. For you, do not go to sleep drunk, or high because you may roll over on her and not know.