I need advice on how to get my 4yr old fully potty trained? Please help!

Christi - posted on 07/12/2010 ( 221 moms have responded )

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she will go pee in the potty no problem but poops in her pull ups

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Rebecca - posted on 07/17/2010

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I'm having the same prob with my 3 1/2 yr old and she sneaks off and puts nappies on to poo in. A midwife suggested to me once she has done the poo empty it into the toilet, get her to watch/help and explain that poo goes in the toilet and then i wipe her standing up then we flush and wash hands so that she is getting used to the process. so far it is working well. this approach may help in taking the next step of pooing on their own. good luck!

Lynn - posted on 07/17/2010

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Hey Christi,

What does your daughter say when you ask her why she doesn't like to poop in her potty?
Does your daughter still have some degree of fear, or wish to be a baby (like her younger siblings)?
Did you read toddler potty training books to her?
Have you tried ideas out of books like "The No-Cry Potty Training Solution: Gentle Ways to Help Your Child Say Good-Bye to Diapers" by Elizabeth Pantley ?

If she can explain to you why she won't poop in the potty maybe you can choose from some of the very good and sensible ideas other Mums here have offered that will address her reason(s).

It's possible/probable that she has some fear / control / wish to stay a baby that you'll need to help her get over in whatever way suits your family and parenting style.

My almost 3 y.o. has a 10 m.o. younger brother and she has a mixture of fear and wishing to "be a baby" about potty training. Luckily she is articulate enough to tell me that. Doesn't solve issues, but gives you the insight to try and choose strategies to address them.

Sorry not to add any new ideas to the mix, other than trying to ask her (and you assessing her answer) as to why she can pee but not poop in the potty.
Good Luck !

Keri - posted on 07/16/2010

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My daughter is 3 and has the same problem. I confronted her doctor about it and he told me not to worry at all. Every child is different. The worst thing you can do is punish them in any way..yelling or making them clean their underware. This will only make the child hold in their poop, which will lead to constipation. The only thing to do is encourage, and keep telling her. You can even bring her to the bathroom with you and show her. When she is ready, she will poop on the potty, the less you make a big deal out of it the easier it will happen.

Angelia - posted on 07/16/2010

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Ok I have to say that I have a 5 1/2 yr old (he has Downs) and we just got him pooping in the potty. He will point to his butt and say Ow! We take him into the bathroom and put him on the toilet (we let him sit backwards) and he usually will scream and holler but we make him sit there until he poops. Yes there have been times that it has taken 15 mins but its when he finally relaxes that he is able to go. He has now been out of pullups for a month. (even at night)
Personally I don't agree with making them clean themselves up but I do think they need to be told that they are big kids and be taken out of pullups during the day if they can pee in the toilet.
If you catch her starting to poop in her pants then take her to the toilet and make her sit there to finish. Watch her and see what signs she gives when she gets ready to poop.

Good luck.

Cheryl - posted on 07/16/2010

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I have a 4 yr old girl that starts preschool Aug 9th, and she REFUSES to poo in the potty!! I want to thank all the ladies for some good advice. GOOD LUCK!!!!

Tamika - posted on 07/16/2010

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my son was the same way until I started putting on the big boy underpaints and watching him because he will always show when he has to go. So everytime I caught him before he did it on himself he was going to the bathroom and then he started telling me when he had to go or just go by himself. He suprised him when he finally said that he had to go potty and actually did it. :-)

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Tell her they both start with the letter P - Pee Pee and Poopy and you do both in the potty. If she poops in her pull ups take them off and put the poop in her potty. Show her it is ok for it to be there. Tell her when she goes to the potty and poopies you will let her pick a prize from the prize tin. Get a covered tin and put stickers, lollipops, little toys in there. When she poopies in potty she gets to put her hand in the prize tin and get a prize.

Rachel - posted on 07/16/2010

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Kimberly grandma, I'm with you. I think people need to understand the difference between tough love and abuse.

Rachel - posted on 07/16/2010

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I agree, I don't think pull ups are good for toilet training. Pull ups are convienent, because your not having to wash soiled undies, but I think pull ups are too comfortable for children. Don't be discouraged, and personally I don't think you should make it a big deal either, you don't want to give her the power by using this as a way of getting to you. Reward positive, and little reaction to negative. If she soils her underpants, then change her. I personally don't think degrading her, by making her "stay" in her underwear and her cleaning it up would be useful. Another thing to consider is once you've tried these options if it continues, take her to the doctors, it could be medical.

ANNETTE - posted on 07/16/2010

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I had the same problem with my daughter. part of it was a physical problem of what is now known as IBS, the other was that she has ADHD. She didn't want to sit still or come in from playing and quite often needed to go so quickly she didn't have time to make it. then she wouldn't tell anyone because she was embaressed, not relaizing every one could semll her. I found that if I stayed with her and talked or read to her she was more apt to be successful. First mank sure there isn't a physical problem. then get inventive.

Kimberly - posted on 07/16/2010

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Boy, you guys are missing the boat on what I am saying. I guess I am trying to be considerate to & of others. I believe in a child knowing what the rules are and sticking with them. I believe in disipline & routine & etc.. . But did you ever think that you are not always right on what is right for other people. Different strokes for different folks. All we can do is give the advice and let them pick out of it what they need and throw away what they don't. Talking about the adults here not the kids.

Lenny - posted on 07/16/2010

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Suzie O'Neill, What a wonderful gal you are. I don't think the majority of the moms have a problem with discipline like Kimberly Grandma. My friend raised 13 kids, and they were all about 2 years apart. Can you imagine coddeling them until they were 4 or 5 years old to be potty trained? Mind boggling to say the least. I too raised my kids in the cloth diapers and so did she. When 1 and1/2 years old they were all potty trained. Perseverence and careful watching of the children works amazingly. I never did believe in Dr. Spock either. Maybe some who think using tough love is traumatic should read the letter that someone wrote into Paul Harvey about how mean his mother was. Something to the effect in a nutshell, was, she was mean because when she gave her children a task, she ACTUALLY MEANT them to do the chore. I remember my kids thinking I was actually fun to be with because when all of their chores were done we went to movies, on small educational trips, (unbeknown) to them and always followed up with a treat. By the time they were 5 they put their clothes away every night before bed, along with choosing ONE outfit for the morning. I agreed that I would make their bed. Saturday we played together. All this while my husband was in the Air Force and gone a lot. To this day they treat me with love and respect. So much for the bordering on abuse effect. "Train a child the way they should go and in their old age they will not depart from it." I DO NOT BELIEVE IN ABUSE. A firm hand and a loving heart should be the way.

Jennifer - posted on 07/16/2010

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A friend resorted to this: Gave her son a CHILD laxative, put him on the potty (kicking, screaming, crying) and waited about 1/2 hour. The inevitable occurred & the poop went in the toilet. Since then, no problems. Yes, the friend said it was a miserable experience and she felt guilty, but it worked.

Kimberly - posted on 07/16/2010

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Hope you get better soon Suzi. I also raised children and Watch my own grandchildren plus I run a preschool where they don't have to be potty trained as I will help with that. Something about their peers getting rewarded for going makes them want to also.. I also studied Early Childhood Education at college and I knw it is not always as easy as it seems. But I also remember the tramatic events better and from an earlier age then I do all the good things. I would not wish my children or grandchildren to have to remember something tramatic. You need to remember that all children are different and everybodies experiences are different. While the little girl has 2 younger siblings and no older ones, sometimes they will go with what they know rather the unknown. Also experts will tell you that there is a synaps in the brain that when it is connected they actually get the concept of potty training. It is like a light going on, just like that. Most of us will say that are kids are potty trained when it is actually us that are trained as we are the ones remembering to take them, not themselves. When that synaps connects it is them going on their own.
Poopy is just something that they and no one else can control. Some don't want to give up that control and different methods work for different kids on winning them over. There are others that are afraid of going in the toilet, Ask your child why they don't want to go... Sounds like you were a great and busy mom.

Kari - posted on 07/16/2010

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I let my daughter pick out her own new "big girl" panties, (not pull ups) and also rewarded her with two m and m's when she used the potty. She was trained in less than a week.

Suzie - posted on 07/16/2010

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ANY kid that is still or any parent that would even buy or use those pull ups are messing with there kids minds I rasied 13 kids and all where potty trained by 2 years I only used cloth diapers I had 4 in diapers [ foster] at one time so I had to be firmso Kimberly Grandma must have never had to lay down the way it's going to be while I was raising these kids I also worked an y where from 8-16 hours a day sometimes 7 days a week it was cheeper for daycare if they where potty trainned had 2 months off in the summer so our home was run like a clock I'm now taking care of my 5 grandkids while thier parents work and yes they are all potty trained by 2 years old working on 1 now that we almost lost from a medical condition he will be 2 in a month and already WANTS to use the potty like the rest of the kids I'm not so concerned with him I'm letting him do his thing just happy to be able to hold him and watch him dance since he is off dialysis for a month teach your children well or the world will eat them like a snack P.S. I'm fighting Leukemia and just had 8 weeks of Cemo

Kimberly - posted on 07/16/2010

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Did someone do that to you when you were little? Maybe some of it won't bother them, but most it will and I would not want that to be the earliest memory my child has. That does border on abuse and when it is done to you, sometimes you do it to others, not a good legacy.

SIMONA - posted on 07/16/2010

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throw out the pull ups...make it a game awarded her w/ something if she uses the potty. when u go to the restroom take a book 4her n u and just sit there n tell come on be like mommy. wanting attention may b a factor just knowledage her has the big sister and only baby wear diapers and that she is a big girl now!

Jane - posted on 07/16/2010

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Yeah, now that she's 4, you need to ace those pull-ups! No child should still be pooping in their pants at 4. I'm not trying to be mean but you need to be firm with her.

Dee - posted on 07/16/2010

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Spend alot of time in the bathroom. Put on make belive makeup read a book. etc. until it's only natureal. Oh and have a happy CLEAN fun bathroom. And if they do make a doo doo in the dipper. Then help them and have them put it in the toilet and flash it down....lol

Lenny - posted on 07/16/2010

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I would like to add one more thing. Follow them around like you would your puppy or kitty. When you see them stooping down it's a no brainer what they are up to. Scoop them up and put them on the potty.

Lenny - posted on 07/16/2010

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Four years old and STILL not potty trained?

One thing to do is take her out of her diapers. Why should she poop when she knows nothing happens but the diaper/pullups are full. As someone who has raised her own family may I suggest that the tail quits wagging the dog. Sounds like she is in charge.

Next time, maybe you can put her in the tub and give her a cold wash. That should give her a quick wake up that for every action there is a reaction and sometimes not a good one.

Oh I know a lot of moms are going to get upset with this one piece of advice, but I promise she will not be emotionally ruined. The kids that have no disipline are the ones who know no limits.

Susan - posted on 07/16/2010

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My son was very hard with the same problem. I went to walmart and bought a bunch of matchbox cars for 99 cent, no pull ups and every time he went poop in the toilet he was rewarded with a car and we made a big deal of it. When he had an accident i explained that it was nasty, smelly and also that as long as he pooped in his pants he wouldnt be able to go to school and make tons of friends. It was a slow learning but he did get it.
I have heard people say that cold showers when cleaning has worked instantly for them - however to me that seems cruel. Good Luck

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years ago there was a child expert, Dr. Linden Smith, who suggested potty parties for children of similar ages. He also said some children feel that there poop is part of their body and are scared they are coming apart when they poop. He suggested having them wave "byebye" when they flush it as to say good bye to their body part. It worked for me 38 years ago on my son. good lulck

Stephanie - posted on 07/16/2010

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if u are at home all day don't put anything on just a shirt and see what happends, this is what i was told and i tried it and it worked for me....not in just one try it took time but once she turned 3 magic all was in the potty. Good luck

Kelly - posted on 07/16/2010

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Hi Christi: My son will be 4 in November and we are having similar problems. My neighbor said to ditch the pull-ups and we did, but he still was pooping in his underwear. So I bought undies with his favorite characters on them ("don't poop on Buzz-Woody-Superman!"), but that didn't work. So we've resorted to blatant bribery/threats. If he poops on the potty regularly he gets a Buzz Lightyear doll. If he can't use the potty to poop, then the people at the pool won't lket him swim. You know what? It's working. So far. Let me know how you make out and good luck! :)

Jeannie - posted on 07/16/2010

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I can't believe I'm not the only one! I will not be judgemental on you like some of these other moms because EVERY CHILD IS DIFFERENT. I have four children. My sons are 10 and were ONE HUNDRED PERCENT out of diapers at 24 months (by their second birthday) - even through the night..... my third (daughter) was 2.5 when we decided she was communicating more than well enough to get rid of them. Once again, I did it at night as well........ Well now my fourth, she is VERY independent. She wants to do what she wants to do. My little one is fine all day and all NIGHT with urine but she sneaks into the closet, poops in a pull up and sheepishly comes over and says "I pooped in the toilet".... if she doesn't stop by Aug 1, we are planning to have a talk with her about school. Nursery school begins in September and she can't go needing pull ups for poop :( That's my plan! She is 3.5...... born 12.18.06. So she has nursery in the Fall for three year olds. I think it will work because I got her on once with a manicure as bribe - ALTHOUGH I DON'T ADVOCATE BRIBERY especially for something you SHOULD be doing !!!

Belinda - posted on 07/16/2010

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I too have had issues in the past when my daughter was younger! When she was still in a night nappy, she would wait until it was bed time and go off into another room to do her business. Sometimes she would hold onto to it for days. We started to reward her with jelly beans, her favourite, to encourage her and also started a reward system where each time she would go on the toilet and do a poo she would get a sticker on a chart and after so many stickers she was allowed to have a bigger reward. Scaring them is not always the best way to go. Threatening my daughter didn't encourage her to do anything but get upset. Your daughter will get there in time. Be patient and one day it will happen and she won't go back! Hopefully!!

Rene - posted on 07/15/2010

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Hi well at 4 she should already be potty trained I am a grandmother of 2 little ones and 3 now adult children here is some advise for all you young moms I started potty training when they could sit properly. On waking the first thing you should do is take out the nappy and put on the potty even if its for only a few minutes think about it when you been sleeping whats the first thing you really want to do, go to the toilet. After a half hour of meal time again do the potty. By the time they realise that a wet diaper is uncomfortable they dont want to do it any more and the potty problem becomes a piece of cake. My sons were all of 1yr old or just there after and not even night time nappies were needed they woke up when they needed the toilet and also it helps not to give a bottle after nap time in the evening they must sip from a cup its maybe just a dry throught that needs to be a little liquid also when they walk if they wake make them go to the toilet even if you take them in their sleeping state they know that they will use the toilet normally around 10pm or so if your child goes to bed earlish. Make her go to a normal toilet she is big enough not to use a potty anymore thats for babies and lets face facts shes a big girl now.

Hope this helps.
Take Care
Rene

CHERYL - posted on 07/15/2010

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throw away her pulls ups it confuses her is the first thing I would do. let her wear underwear only.
give her a penny each time she poops in the potty. Let her know when she does it she will get tthe money. buy her a piggy bank so she can put it in the each time. IT is award for doing a great job. also give her a big hug each time she poops in the potty to let her know you are very proud of her also.
I have 3 girls ages 21, 19 1/2 and 9. and 1 son 15 1/2. once they was potty broke from the pee I put them in underwear and never in pull ups, even at night time.
hope this will work for you?
good luck

Renee - posted on 07/15/2010

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I wasn't willing to do throw away the pull-ups. My 4 year old daughter had the same problem... she got to the point where she'd be wearing panties, sneak into her bedroom to pull on the pull-up, poop, then ask me to wipe her. it was awful! and it lasted a few months. She always said she'd "poop in the potty when she was five." So, we kept talking about how big girls poop in the potty, and one day, she did it. And she never put on another pull up (she was 4-1/2)

Suzie - posted on 07/15/2010

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Go get some stickers and a piece of her favorite color paper every time she poops make a big deal about it and let her pick a sticker for her good potty job if she potty's in her pants help her wash them out in the toilet say oh no this is not big girl she will like that only about once than she will stop pooping in her pants throw out those pullups and take her to buy big girl undies Let her pick them out ya having to wash poop out of tinkerbell while mom is saying that is not good leaves a lasting impression my grand daughter was the same way after 2 days of that she Never did it again Mom of many

Mary - posted on 07/15/2010

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I am having the same exact problem. My daughter has a speech delay and sensory issues and potty trained late. She will pee on the potty no problem, but only poops in pull ups. She has pooped in the potty a few times before, but rarely. Has anyone had the same problem and what did you do?

Madeline - posted on 07/15/2010

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christi, you also say you have a 2 year old. why not approach your daughter that you need help? something along the lines of,'Jenny you're a big girl now and when it comes to training BILLYBOB (your 2 year old) I'm going to need your help to do his/her poos in the potty. will you show me how you can do yours, so we will be able to see if you can help me? It would be a great help to me!' It worked for me. I am currently training my 2 year old and its working a treat, maybe because he's too young to be afraid of the potty. could you try training both to poo on the potty at the same time? they tend to take to it easier at 2. Best of luck!

Kimberly - posted on 07/15/2010

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Christi, Most children regress when they have younger siblings in diapers. They want that extra attention. Also their bowels are the one thing that only they have control over, and they will sometimes cling to that control. I agree about not putting her in pullups. You might try letting her pick out some really cool underwear at the store and if she poops in them, they get thrown away. If she has a favorite character on them, she might try harder. This worked for my grandson. Has she ever gone poopy in the toilet? Some kids will go in a potty chair better then the toilet. Another thing you might try is having the 2 year old start going potty with her and her being a good example. I also bought some special tatoos and when they do go poopy in the potty they get a tatoo. Good Luck with everything. (on having them cleaning their own poopy, just be careful as ecoli is carried in poopy)

Jennifer - posted on 07/15/2010

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I do agree with you Kerry! I would encourage our daughter and made up a song when she would go we did wait till one day she went up to the potty all by herself with out tell or asking for help so we knew she was ready. I wanted to just wait and let her do it on her own but it came to a point when we had to do something because she would hold it so long that she would just sit on the potty and cry because she was so constipated and it would hurt too bad for her to go. I did not want to put my daughter through that when I knew she could do it. My doctor told us learning to hold it was a good process but she then would not go at all. So we gave her the Miralax and did make her clean up her own mess because she would not go on purpose just because she was playing. I wanted to show her that it took less time to just use the potty then to have to go through the process of clean her and the mess up. She was old enough to understand the process and it did not take long for her to stop. I don’t think I need to clean up her mess when she was doing it on purpose. I don’t know where you live but around here in Ohio your child has to be potty trained to attend preschool.

Kerry - posted on 07/15/2010

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I can't believe some people would suggest making them clean up their own mess or leave them in dirty nappy/underwear, that is so wrong. ALL children want to be clean eventually and they will do it, the best thing is not force the issue with your little girl, just step back and leave her in nappies for a few weeks then try again, my little boy was 3 1/2 before he became clean during the day, I tried with him time and time again and he just was not interested and used to cry. I spoke to my health visitor and she said to leave him (her little boy was over 4 when clean during the day). She said there are two things you cannot force a child to do and that is potty train or make them eat. I left my little boy in nappies and didn't even mention it to him, I avoided making eye contact with him when changing him and didn't talk to him about it whilst changing him, then when he was at pre-school one day he just decided he wanted big boy pants on, I never looked back, he had a few accidents the first 7 days but then that was it, he was completely dry and has been ever since, he is 3 yrs 10 mths now and still wears nappies on a night. I am not worried because I know he will do it when he is ready. Please do not worry about your daughter, I know you think because she is 4 she should be clean but just leave her, the more you make an issue of it the more determined she will be not to do it. When you do try again use a reward sticker chart and when she has filled it up give her a small treat. Obviously encourage her in the meantime, let her choose her own pants etc. She will want to be clean eventually. Don't worry about what other people think, if it doesn't bother you then just ignore the comments saying she should be clean now. Every child is different but she will get there eventually. Good luck

Kerry - posted on 07/15/2010

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I can't believe some people would suggest making them clean up their own mess or leave them in dirty nappy/underwear, that is so wrong. ALL children want to be clean eventually and they will do it, the best thing is not force the issue with your little girl, just step back and leave her in nappies for a few weeks then try again, my little boy was 3 1/2 before he became clean during the day, I tried with him time and time again and he just was not interested and used to cry. I spoke to my health visitor and she said to leave him (her little boy was over 4 when clean during the day). She said there are two things you cannot force a child to do and that is potty train or make them eat. I left my little boy in nappies and didn't even mention it to him, I avoided making eye contact with him when changing him and didn't talk to him about it whilst changing him, then when he was at pre-school one day he just decided he wanted big boy pants on, I never looked back, he had a few accidents the first 7 days but then that was it, he was completely dry and has been ever since, he is 3 yrs 10 mths now and still wears nappies on a night. I am not worried because I know he will do it when he is ready. Please do not worry about your daughter, I know you think because she is 4 she should be clean but just leave her, the more you make an issue of it the more determined she will be not to do it. When you do try again use a reward sticker chart and when she has filled it up give her a small treat. Obviously encourage her in the meantime, let her choose her own pants etc. She will want to be clean eventually. Don't worry about what other people think, if it doesn't bother you then just ignore the comments saying she should be clean now. Every child is different but she will get there eventually. Good luck

Andrea - posted on 07/15/2010

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No pull ups they most kids treat them the same as diapers. At least my kids did I think I might had bought one pack for each on of my kids. I think it would be more effective to leave her in big girl panties all the time poop or not. Reward and phrases, my oldest daughter was the hardest one to get potty trained. I ended up taking a poster board and making a chart. Every time she went pee or poop she got a sticker (more sticker for peeing). Once she filled the chart her reward was chucky chesse. This worked for her maybe it will for your daughter and pooping. Plus she loved to put the sticker on herself. Plus she 4 there might be the option of asking her why she won't poop in the potty, you might just get and answer. My boyfriend dad and stepmom have custody of his two daughters nthat he had with an Ex. Neither of them got potty trained till they were 4 and the main problem they had was pooping. The wore pull ups all the time. They put panties on them and once they had an accident they be back in pulls. The youngest was at are house for the weekend and she used the potty the whole time (i refused to but pulls on her). I asked her why she don't use the potty at her house, she said because she don't have to.

Debbie - posted on 07/14/2010

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be firm no more pottying in pants--don't punish--big girl's do works-be gentle

Ronda - posted on 07/14/2010

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OMG Christi...I have the SAME problem w/ my 3 1/2 year old son! He's been fully #1 trained since his 3rd b-day...but #2 is NOT FUN! We've tried everything! He poops in his big boy underwear, his pull-ups and even with no bottoms on. He just doesn't seem to care! Unless we find him hiding in the corner...or on his tippy toes, we never make it to the potty. His poor lil' bootie gets soooo red & sore. I'm interested to see what suggestions you get! GOOD LUCK!

Carise - posted on 07/14/2010

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I had to literally scare my son into potty training. I tried EVERYTHING. My daughter was FULLY trained at 15 months so is not like I don't know what I'm doing, but my son was a challenge and a half! I remembered something that happend to me when I was little..I had a bad habit of licking my lips and it was the middle of winter so it got REALLY bad and my mom told me my lips would turn green and fall off...I believed her and never did it again. I applied that to my son and told him his butt was going to turn green and fall off and made him believe it.....he NEVER pooped or peed in his pants again after that!

Zoe - posted on 07/14/2010

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does she see you use the loo, my littel one loved it in the morning when we both "went" together.

Melanie - posted on 07/14/2010

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Oh man the pull up need to go by by. Take her to the bathroom everytime you go or every hour. Give her phrases and a sticker if she does it on the potty. At night will be a wet on for a week or so. My son was hard to train thru the night. When I woke up to go pee (I was pregnant with my 3rd), I would carry him into the bathroom and make him go. Then he would go back to sleep. Now he knows how to hold it. Thats just my opinion.

Christi - posted on 07/14/2010

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Thank you to everyone for your advice!! If I find something that works I will let you all know. Thanks again!! Glad to know their are other moms out there that have had similiar problems.

Ashley - posted on 07/14/2010

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I had to potty train my cousin at 3 years old. I'm a mom now, but then I wasn't. I learned that if you time how long it takes for her to #2, then take her to the bathroom and sit her on the potty for a little while and read a few books to her. If she has to #2, she will, if not then you can let her get up and try again in a little while. Keep going on like that till she gets the hint. Good luck

Tina - posted on 07/14/2010

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I agree get rid of the pull ups. I have 3 boys all teens and when they were little once they started potty training I got rid of diapers except for night. I never really bought pull ups. Just basically expensive diaper. She will eventially get it. Frustrating some but it will happen/

Janet - posted on 07/13/2010

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this is what my childs doctor told me to do.. He told me to buy a bell. When my child used the toilet he got to ring the bell & only when he used the tiolet. But u have to put the bell up high so they cant get it on there own. Kids love making noise! You can even have her ring the bell & do a celebration dance! The attention on her doing a good job pooping in the potty will get her to want to do it again!

Amanda - posted on 07/13/2010

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Please dont give your child medication to get her to poop, thats horrible advice, and I am shocked a doctor would even suggest it. Treats are a good (though I am not a fan of giving children treats, or sticker systems to do the very thing expect from them, its the problem with 20 years today but thats another topic LOL).

For my daugther when she went searching for her pull ups, I put her on the toilet and would not let her leave until she went poop (about 2 hour, a lot of crying, and pleding later) she finally went, and she never had an issue since.

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