I want to put my son on whole milk when he turns 9mo, he hasn't taken to the sippy cup.

Pheonex - posted on 05/26/2009 ( 203 moms have responded )

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I want to stop breast feeding and switch to wholemilk, he hasn't taken to the sippy cup and I'm afraid that if I just use a regular cup he won't get all the milk he needs. I didn't really want to use a bottle, but can't think of an alternative for nap and bed times. Does anyone have any suggestions?

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Quoting Melissa:



Quoting Betsy:




Quoting Melissa:

post above is untrue, solids are needed for growth and development from 6 months, and are the main nutrition from 9 months, i got this from a dietitian from the childrens hospital








I have dealt with pediatricians and pediatric nutritionists for 20 yrs now, and you must have found the only one who believes that. If you look at the AMA and American Academy of Pediatrics, you will find they also do not agree with your  dietician.








 








From the AAP:








 








Cow's milk is not recommended by the American Academy of Pediatrics for children under 1 year old. Infants fed whole cow's milk don't get enough , sodium, and potassium. These levels may be too high for the infant's system to handle. Also, whole cow's milk protein and fat are more difficult for an infant to digest and absorb.








Cow's milk can have dramatic effects on the infant's iron levels. Infants fed or iron-fortified formula have normal iron levels. Studies show infants often have low iron levels when started on cow's milk at 6 months of age.








For the best infant nutrition, pick the right milk source and eventually introduce the infant to solid foods. The American Academy of Pediatrics recommends that infants be fed breast milk or iron-fortified formula during the first 12 months of life. Between ages 4 - 6 months, certain solid foods may be added. Breast milk or iron-fortified formula, along with age-appropriate solid foods and juices during the first year of life, provides more balanced nutrition.









 






im confused your disagreeing with me but that last line says solids in the first year of life provides more balanced nutrician? When my daughter woulndt eat (still doesnt at 14 months) ive been told and from what ive sen also solids become the main nutrician from 9 months thats why they need less bottles because they are eating more. most 1 years olds and a bit under only drink 2-3 bottles a day, from everything i have seen and heard. i have a leaflet on it from 2008 and it says if you dont introduce solids shortly after 6 months if not earlier you risk them having trouble with different tastes and textures and not getting what they need to develop





From birth-12 months, babies have special needs requiring high levels of each and every vitamin and mineral, as well as fats, because they have the greatest level of growth and brain development they will ever have in their life. Formula and breast milk provide for that high demand needed. From 6-12 months, solids from puree to cut up food, teach them how to eat and give them a taste for a wide range of foods. That is important because when the breastmilk and formula are taken away, they then have a taste for a wide range of foods offering a wider range of nutrients, but at 1 yr +, if they don't eat much potassium-rich foods or foods with vitamin B or healthy fats, etc, a certain day, they will be ok. Toddlers pick. If a child under 12 mo doesn't get each and every day, without fail, it will affect them because they have those special needs at this time. Whole milk isn't even comparable to breastmilk or formula. Once they are over 1, it provides them, the same as us, with their dairy needs with calcium, vit A + D and some fats, but not even those at the levels a baby under 1 yr needs, nevermind everything else they need. Solid foods they pick at and can't even eat enough, with their stomach size, throughout the day, nevermind they may not want to eat a lot of every single food that provides every single vitamin and mineral they need each and every day for physical growth and brain development. I have kids from age 19 down to 2, and never ever have heard any pediatrician, pediatric nutritionist or any expert promote relying on solids and just milk to sustain a child of that age's needs. I have seen many times pediatricians recommend a child weaned be put back on formula due to vitamin deficiencies. Some vitamin deficiencies, such as potassium, can cause heart and kidney problems on top of not meeting their requirements for their rapid rate of growth and brain development at 9 mo old. There is reason since when I had my first two decades ago formula has improved so much. They have more knowledge at the levels of each and every vitamin and level of fats babies need to 1 yr of age and how crucial that is for esp the brain, so they have improved them to be as close to breastmilk as possible to provide that. Someone mentioned that years ago some couldn't breastfeed and with no formula, people used milk. They didn't have the knowledge and vitamin deficiencies and serious health issues with young children were very common back then. Hope that clears your confusion a bit.

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Quoting Melissa:

post above is untrue, solids are needed for growth and development from 6 months, and are the main nutrition from 9 months, i got this from a dietitian from the childrens hospital



I have dealt with pediatricians and pediatric nutritionists for 20 yrs now, and you must have found the only one who believes that. If you look at the AMA and American Academy of Pediatrics, you will find they also do not agree with your  dietician.



 



From the AAP:





Cow's milk is not recommended by the American Academy of Pediatrics for children under 1 year old. Infants fed whole cow's milk don't get enough , sodium, and potassium. These levels may be too high for the infant's system to handle. Also, whole cow's milk protein and fat are more difficult for an infant to digest and absorb.



Cow's milk can have dramatic effects on the infant's iron levels. Infants fed or iron-fortified formula have normal iron levels. Studies show infants often have low iron levels when started on cow's milk at 6 months of age.



For the best infant nutrition, pick the right milk source and eventually introduce the infant to solid foods. The American Academy of Pediatrics recommends that infants be fed breast milk or iron-fortified formula during the first 12 months of life. Between ages 4 - 6 months, certain solid foods may be added. Breast milk or iron-fortified formula, along with age-appropriate solid foods and juices during the first year of life, provides more balanced nutrition.

Amanda - posted on 05/27/2009

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You can introduce milk around 9-10 months but Canadian goverment does not say to wean off breastmilk or formula until at least a year old, and even 2 years for breastfeeding. I dont know why your doctor would ever suggest going to a whole milk diet for a 9 month old is ok, and I strongely suggest you call Health Canada 1 800 number for a second opinion on this.

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Quoting Pheonex:

In Canada, they say you can give them wholemilk at 9mo. I want to switch to milk because every time he teeths, he bites me. The bruises are not fun and being allergic to latex, I cannot use the nipple guard. But maybe switching to formula and not just milk might be the better alternative?



I don't know where in Canada you are but I'm in Ontario and everywhere here they say 12 months.  It even says on the little Nestle how to start food booklet everyone gets in the mail in the GTA.  Wholemilk is to be introduced after 12 months.

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well the health department and the doctors say infant are suppose to stay on formula or breastmilk until 12months old/1years old because that has the nutrients in it that they need..i mean its up 2 you but i dnt think its a good choice as a mom to do that..oh! and my son started drinking from a cup at 9months old i gradually started giving him the cup at different times..i use the cups with the silicone nipples but he also uses regulars cups with the lids. and all kids are different but my son drinks all his milk from a cup ( the regula amount). and bottles are suppose to be stoppped before one the doctor will tell you that.. at least mine did.they have teeth so that bottle will become to make threre teeth rot and curve in(same with a pacifier)but the milk thing you shouldnt do that..

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yes i think you can start easy the sippy cup on him..thats what i did with my son..i started out replacing one bottle a day with a sippy cup for a couple of weeks. then after that i went to 2 sippy cups n no bottle and then after that cut out the bottles an went straight to cup. but i kept some bottles around just in case..but when they are around that age it tends to be easy than a 1year old..but the whole milk at this age is to early.. and if they have an allergy to milk like my son does they wil usually catch that early..like some son right out the womb couldnt handle regual formula so he was on enfamil natramigen and now is on lacataid. hes like his dad is allergic to dairy.so it depends on the child

LaCi - posted on 06/04/2009

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whole milk tends to make kids fat, from what Ive seen. But I'm trying to raise a vegan kid, so don't trust my opinion.

Barbara - posted on 06/04/2009

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their little bodies can't handle whole milk at 9 months, and starting it too early can lead to milk allergies. It isn't recommended that you give whole milk until one year. There are formulas that can be given from 6 months and up.

Jen - posted on 06/03/2009

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9mos. is still too young to start drinking cow's milk. If you do not want to breast feed anymore then you should start using formula. Babies need breast milk or formula until they are at least 12mos. old, starting milk too soon can cause allergies. If your son isn't getting the hang of a sippy cup yet then I would use bottles. Bornfree makes a kind of transition nipple that's soft like bottle nipples but shaped more like the top of a sippy cup. They even have different levels with it just like with regular bottle nipples. I hope this helps.

Ashley - posted on 06/02/2009

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Although most doctors tell you not to give your baby whole milk before the age of 1 i ran out of formula one day and didnt really have any other choice she refused to drink water so i gave her whole milk and she is doing just fine with it...once i go to get my wic checks she will go back on formula but i havent noticed any bad side effects. My mom told me she started all of my brothers and me on whole milk after six months and i am perfectly healthy so do what you feel is right and if you are that worried about it talk to your doctor about it.

Ashley - posted on 06/02/2009

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Although most doctors tell you not to give your baby whole milk before the age of 1 i ran out of formula one day and didnt really have any other choice she refused to drink water so i gave her whole milk and she is doing just fine with it...once i go to get my wic checks she will go back on formula but i havent noticed any bad side effects. My mom told me she started all of my brothers and me on whole milk after six months and i am perfectly healthy so do what you feel is right and if you are that worried about it talk to your doctor about it.

Rhonda - posted on 06/02/2009

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9 months is too young for whole milk....give bottle only at nap time but ask your babies doctor first

Rhonda - posted on 06/02/2009

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9 months is too young for whole milk....give bottle only at nap time but ask your babies doctor first

Lauren - posted on 06/02/2009

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I have also heard that a child needs to wait to go on whole milk until the age of 1. My son didn't like the sippy cup either and we went straight to the kid cup with the straw in them. These cups are also better for speech development, so I guess you can't go wrong! Hope this helps.

Jen - posted on 06/02/2009

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Children that young tend to adapt fast. If you need them to use a sippy cup you start out once a day or so and work from there. But, every doctor will tell you not to give milk until 12 mos old. Infants that old still need breastmilk/formula. I would recommend talking to your child's pediatrician.

Hana - posted on 06/02/2009

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my pediatritian said yesterday that I could start my 9 mo old on whole milk, but I needed to start slowly. She also said to make sure I am giving her tap water because it has floride in it and that will help tooth development. just fyi

Jennifer - posted on 06/02/2009

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if you are still trying to get your child into sippee cups.... you could try a multitude of different things. They have the newer sippee cups available that seem to be easier to drink out of, but we used to put the formula into the cups and would tell them they could have some juice (watered down) if they are still thristy.... when he does successfully drink from the cups give him LOTS of praises and tell him how big he is. Boys for some reason need that. We also used to put Ovaltine in their milk when they were little which was a sneaky way of getting vitamins in them.... plus it was lower in sugar and caffiene than the regular chocolate milk mix. Don't be afraid of getting creative and try different cups.... See which way he likes it. Mine are teens now and still like the Ovaltine milk and they also drink lots of regular milk too. You will get there....

Cathy - posted on 06/02/2009

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i wanted to ensure that my daughter was off formula and the bottle by one year old. so at 10-11 months, milk went in her bottle, warmed up a little so it was better for her belly at nighttime. at 11-12 months i found a sippy that the spout felt just like a bottle, used that and i slowly weened her off. it only took about 2 weeks, i would try tofind a sippy that is the most similar to a bottle, that way it wont be such a shock to him...good luck!

Erika - posted on 06/02/2009

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I nursed until my daughter was 15 months and I couldn't have any dairy because she had a sensitivity to one of the milk proteins. They say that children shouldn't have cow's milk until they are a year. She is 2 now and no longer has any problems, but I think I would hold off with the cow's milk.

Debra - posted on 06/02/2009

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They say that childeren are supposed to drink formula or breastmilk till 12months.

But, if u feel like u should swich now, i tried to get my second child ( i had the hardest switching him from bottle to sippy) to drink dilluted juice in a sippy at meal times, then once he got used to that, i started with milk during naps and bedtime. give it a try and good luck :)

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Just wondering why you've chosen 9 months?



If you must stop breast feeding then you'll need to use formula. The American Academy of Pediatrics recommends that you do not introduce Cows Milk until at least a year. Your child should also be getting more of his nutrients from foods at that time. As far as sippy cups go, use a bottle instead, at 9 months most baby's still have a strong sucking reflex.



Finally, the best piece of advice I can give: let your son be your guide, when he's ready, he'll let you know!

Amanda - posted on 06/02/2009

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9 months is a little early to make such a huge change for your child from taking them off a bottle and formula my daughters doctor told me to wait til at least one year before switching to milk and to start introducing a silicon top sippy cup however still give a bottle at naps and bed as this is conforting to them and will help them sleep but only use some water (i used bottled) at these times so your not to rot the teeth before they come in or rot them if they already have started coming in. it really does make a difference!

Debbie - posted on 06/02/2009

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First of all my dear, at 9 months old baby's stomach isn't fully developed at this age. This is why it is proper to keep your baby drinking milk (breast feeding not only is great for the baby,but it is fantastic for your figure...believe it or not) oh and please consult your child's doctor before adding whole milk to his diet.

Secondly, he will only be able to accept it when he is ready. i have 6 children and believe you me, this is true to every little personality. LOL ... BUT by all means keep trying, don't get discouraged, have patience and he'll let you know when he''s ready. Take care and God Bless you all our little ones.

By the way my children's ages run from oldest 28 to youngest 10! So i really believe i MOSTLY (not all the time, but mostly) know what i am talking about when it comes to children. LOL LOOL LOL

Take care

Teri - posted on 06/02/2009

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9 mos is a little young to be proficient with a sippy cup anyway. it takes lots of trys for kids to do sippy cups -- I'd first try with water (so he doesn't think you're trying to switch out the breast for bottle. let him play with it. We always started with the disposable style we got at Babies R Us (take-alongs) - as they didn't require much work to get the water out.





What country do you live it? In the US, I've never heard of a pediatrician suggesting moving a kid to whole milk at 9 mos. Kids aren't even supposed to have cows milk until 10 mos or so and yogurt/.cheese are the first to try. they want babies to get all the great nutrition they can before they turn 1 and your breastmilk can do that (formula can as well, but it's never as good as mom's milk)





If you're sick of brestfeeding, I'd contact your pedi and get a formula recommendation. If you can stick out bf for another 3 mos, your kids would definitely benefit. It's awesome to give your kid bm for the first year! so fewmoms do it.

Nicole - posted on 06/02/2009

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I was also told by both the public health nurse and the doctor that it is perfectly fine to give my 10 month old daughter whole milk instead of formula. She only has her milk before she goes to bed and naps and eats solid food for her nutritional needs..

Penny - posted on 06/02/2009

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Hiya, i wouldnt recommend giving your baby cows milk before 12months of age, and dont worry too much if he/she hasnt taken to a sippy cup yet, lots of babies prefer to suckle for a while anyway. I know theres a pressure put on us mums to develop our babies quicker but personally i think children are encouraged to grow up too soon nowadays. My best advice to you would be to follow your instincts, you know your child better than anyone, so just keep offering the sippy cup and eventually he/she will take to it. But again cows milk too young could cause problems for your baby, allergies to cows milk and product could develop also.

Best of luck hunni, and most of all dont beat yourself up if things dont happen as quickly for your baby as they have for friends or families babies as they all develop at totally different stage. xxxx

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yes formula milk is cows milk based but it is STRONGLY recommended that no cows milk should be fed before 12 months baby's digestive systems cannot digest it before this time. There is nothing wrong with feeding with a bottle and my daughter has been on both bottle and breast since 3 months as i have horses to look after too. i stopped bf at 6 months and eleri is now 10 months and drinking diluted friut jiuce and water and formula milk from a bottle she sleeps all through the night and has done since 3 months so bottle feeding obviously is a good thing with her. they say that u need to wean them off at 12 months (a bottle that is) well i think its ok to bottle feed for longer ur child will tell you when its time because each child is an individual. also the sucking action is a soother for them and its a good way to induce sleep. try using a dummy (soother) at bedtime and naps to help sleep. goodluck it looks like u opened a can of worms with this question ;) x

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Quoting Elise:

In Australia, the health department says that babies need to be on either breastmilk or formula until they are one year old, otherwise the risk of their developing a lactose intolerance is very high.

My daughter is 16 months old and still drinks her milk from a bottle. It's part of our bonding time together... It depends a bit on why you're wanting to use the cup.



Same in the USA. You should not give a child under 12 mos (1 year) cow's milk or regular soy milk. If you have been breastfeeding all this time, it is probably best to use a sensitive-stomach formula.



 



Also, like Elise, my son is 16 mos. I still use the bottle at bed and nap time only. It's a bonding thing. I couldn't breastfeed my little boy, so I hold him while I bottle-nurse him. She's right about it depending on your reasoning for using the cup.



 



Talk to your pediatrician. He/She should be able to help you with this very well.

Melissa - posted on 06/01/2009

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babies should be on either breastnilk or formula until they are 1 year..there stomach are still to young to digest the cow mile enzyme...be careful!!!

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In general you aren't suppose to give babies milk till they aer 1. it is not good for their digestive system. If you really want to do it at 9 months try giving them jusice in the sippy and not in a bottle. It may take a while b/c they sre use to sucking so try a Nuby they have a transition pack you can buy at Walmart or target, they have soft nipples. When they are used togetting the juice out of the sippy they will be more likely to take milk. But I still say wait till 1.

Laura - posted on 06/01/2009

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In the US the health department says that babies need to be on either breastmilk or formula until they are 12 months old.



You can use a bottle. There is no regulated stopping point for bottles. Try teaching your child to use a straw when they are old enough to drink milk. Then introduce sippy cups. Sometimes the regulator spout on a particular brand of sippy cup is difficult to get started. Try another brand of sippy cup.

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My second child didn't do well with sippy cups. I switched him to the Nuby brand and that transitioned him great. It's spout and top are soft just like the bottle nipple is so it helps them learn the shape and how to get it out before having to use a harder spout to sip out of. If not, sometimes it just takes longer for some children to start using a cup. Good Luck!

Marnie - posted on 06/01/2009

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aventi has some great bottle cups that hold like a cup but still has a teat so start the transition and you can also get packs that have assorted tops to take you through the transition. :) good luck

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You should wait until one year to go to whole milk. I have the same problem - my daughter is 16 months and wont drink anything but water from a sippy cup. That is OK because I really like our cuddling time with the bottle. I don't let her walk around with the bottle nor do I put her to bed with it as this can cause tooth decay.

Traci - posted on 06/01/2009

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You should wait until one year to go to whole milk. I have the same problem - my daughter is 16 months and wont drink anything but water from a sippy cup. That is OK because I really like our cuddling time with the bottle. I don't let her walk around with the bottle nor do I put her to bed with it as this can cause tooth decay.

Christy - posted on 06/01/2009

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some babies wont take a sippy cup until they are ready, i found out the heard way,

with my frist child, but with me second one it was a pice of cake, they both got of the bottle at the age of one and half and that is a good age any dr will tell you that, and to put your baby on hole milk you would have add a little at a time with you brest milk. but at a good age for that is 11 1/2 mos to a year old that so he will have the right iron in their body and it wont make them become a lactose intolerance. and if you want to stop him from brest feeding from you and start using a brest pump and pump it in to a bottle,, that's all i can think of

Sarah - posted on 05/31/2009

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who has the right to say whats right and wrong........... yes i put my kids on cows milk at 6 months but that was my choice I WAS NOT PUTTING MY KIDS AT RISK...........my kids are rarley ill ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, they have no allergys,and are fit and healthy, there friends who were on fomular milk longer than them have more illnesses than they do so giving them cows milk hasnt affected them or there immune system,

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You Can't Put Him On Whole Milk Until He Turns A Year Most Doctor's Will Tell You

Put Him On A Bottle With Fomula He Might Be To Young For A Sippy Cup

Haylie - posted on 05/31/2009

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Sippy cups cant contol the flow for your little one- and this is why bottles are handy. They control the flow with their tongue and sucking fully with a bottle, try giving it a go. He take less air in too. My little one couldn't really handle a sippy cup until she was about 12 months. Hope that helps :)

Haylie - posted on 05/31/2009

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Sippy cups cant contol the flow for your little one- and this is why bottles are handy. They control the flow with their tongue and sucking fully with a bottle, try giving it a go. He take less air in too. My little one couldn't really handle a sippy cup until she was about 12 months. Hope that helps :)

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He would get the nutrients he needs from formula rather than whole milk. They say to keep babies on breast milk or formula until 12 months. And if he wont take a sippy cup, use a bottle. You don't want him to not get enough food because he cant use the cup properly.

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my hubby's a pediatrician and I've read his books. I wouldn't put my daughter on whole milk until a year old. Maybe because I'm scared of what the side effects could be but it's your choice and your choice alone. There's no hurry on the sippy cup. My daughter hasn't taken to it yet either and she's 10 months. Take your time. They do things when they're ready :)

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My daughter began whole milk in a cup at ten months, mostly because she ate very well on solid food, and refused to take a bottle. I still nursed in the morning and at night for a month, when she went to only whole milk. I know everything says 12 months, but I don't think there's anything magical about that number. It probably depends more on how well your son eats other foods as well for nutrition. Maybe consider a vitamin supplement as well for a while.

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Yeah in the Missouri it isn't recommended to start whole milk that early=/ but whatever...I would try different cups...cause my son couldn't drink from some at first...so i tried different ones till he could...

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9 months is way too early too be giving your baby whole milk just wait untill he is 12 months old and give him formula in a bottle instead...Talk to your doctor or other medical profesional ifu are unsure what formula is best.

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you might want to try letting the baby hold something like a toy that way you don't have to worry about his/her teeth. As far as the sippy cups goes you can find some that have nipples like ( they are soft). That might help.

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Quoting sarah:

all 7 of mine have been on full fat cows milk from 6 months old and even my twin girls who were 2 months early, i refused to give in with mine if they wouldnt take a feeder cup they went without, it didnt take long for them to use it


Thats not very nice.




As many Mum's have stated, cow’s milk is not recommended for babies under one year because they cannot digest it properly and it could cause allergies. Just use formula. I don’t know why anyone would take the risk with their baby. Formula or breast milk are the only options until one year old.








 

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Quoting sarah:

all 7 of mine have been on full fat cows milk from 6 months old and even my twin girls who were 2 months early, i refused to give in with mine if they wouldnt take a feeder cup they went without, it didnt take long for them to use it


Thats not very nice.




As many Mum's have stated, cow’s milk is not recommended for babies under one year because they cannot digest it properly and it could cause allergies. Just use formula. I don’t know why anyone would take the risk with their baby. Formula or breast milk are the only options until one year old.








 

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I wouldn't give him whole milk till a year or more... I agree with the last post... In regards to the milk issue...

Tameka - posted on 05/31/2009

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I thought that you weren't suppose to give a child whole milk until they were at least 1year old

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they reccomment not starting cows milk until 12 months old, but you could start transitioning him to a sippy cup maybe 1 feed a day and continue with the bottle until he reaches all feeds. I started my son on a transitional sippy cup at 6 months, it didnt take too long for him to catch on. Or maybe start with 3/4 water 1/4 juice in the sippy cup. kiddos love that and they will do anything to get it out of the cup!

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all 7 of mine have been on full fat cows milk from 6 months old and even my twin girls who were 2 months early, i refused to give in with mine if they wouldnt take a feeder cup they went without, it didnt take long for them to use it

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I had to place my son on milk around the same time you're thinking of. It was due to him vomiting after every bottle of formula. He may not take the cup for a while. Give him the bottle and slowly introduce the cup to him and sooner or later he'll get it. If you're planning on whole milk, be sure to supplement his diet w/ a vitamin w/ iron-polyvisol or store brand. Don't worry and take your time. It would be best for him to stay on formula or breastfed until one year..but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. good luck!

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I started my second child on full fat milk at the age of 11 months and my third child on full fat milk at the age of 7 months. I decided to start my third child, a boy, on full fat milk so early as he was a very sickly baby even though I tried changing his formula a number of times. Within about a week and a half of starting him on cow's milk he had stopped puking completely. As for the bottle? Where's the harm in a bottle? My son is now 22 months and he has three bottles of milk a day, one in the morning, one half way through the day and one before bed. He has also been using a sippy cup since he was about four months old for squash, juice, etc.

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