I want to put my son on whole milk when he turns 9mo, he hasn't taken to the sippy cup.

Pheonex - posted on 05/26/2009 ( 203 moms have responded )

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I want to stop breast feeding and switch to wholemilk, he hasn't taken to the sippy cup and I'm afraid that if I just use a regular cup he won't get all the milk he needs. I didn't really want to use a bottle, but can't think of an alternative for nap and bed times. Does anyone have any suggestions?

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Erin - posted on 05/27/2009

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Hi-- My daughter won't use a sippy cup either. So my pediatrician recommended getting her to use a straw....which she immediately tossed aside as well. I was so desperate to get her to hold her own drink that i started giving her a juice box because i could squeeze the juice into her mouth (i'm sure there are a lot of other mother's who will judge me badly for giving a 10 month old a juice box-- but i did what i had to do). Anyway, she picked up using a straw quickly once we tried that and now she helps herself to her formula from a sippy cup with a straw.

Sharon - posted on 05/27/2009

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My daughter had to try numerous sippy cups (different styles) before my grandson would drink out of one.

Caitlin - posted on 05/27/2009

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My doctor told me not to even start my son on whole milk until he was 11 1/2 months old! You may want to consult your child's pediatrician before you make any decisions.

If you don't have a very firm reason for not wanting to use a bottle, I would say that giving him a formula bottle (in place of breastfeeding) is fine at his age. Also, if you are breastfeeding it will most likely be a better, and easier switch to a bottle, than to a sippy cup. Your child may have problems adjusting to a sippy cup, coming right from the breast.

Caitlin - posted on 05/27/2009

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My doctor told me not to even start my son on whole milk until he was 11 1/2 months old! You may want to consult your child's pediatrician before you make any decisions.

If you don't have a very firm reason for not wanting to use a bottle, I would say that giving him a formula bottle (in place of breastfeeding) is fine at his age. Also, if you are breastfeeding it will most likely be a better, and easier switch to a bottle, than to a sippy cup. Your child may have problems adjusting to a sippy cup, coming right from the breast.

Charity - posted on 05/27/2009

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Pheonex if you are to stop breastfeeding I would recommend that you slowly wean your baby. By this I mean you should replace one feeding at a time over a period of time before stopping all together because it can be tramatic for a baby to make the transition from breast to bottle or cup so quickly. Babies as young as 9 months can use a sippy cup. However, like most things they need time and practise at using them. Babies at this age need a little help tipping the cup up for them to get a drink. Also, they need a fair bit of iron from what they drink. It is recommend that babies who are no longer breastfeeding to swith to formula until at least 12 months of age. Why? because formula has more iron and nutrients than cows milk which helps with brain development and other areas of the body. I have been told that switching babies to cow's milk too early could put them at risk of becoming iron deficient, anemic, and other cognitive and physical delays. As for bed and nap times I don't recommend giving your baby a bottle or a sippy cup to settle him in for the night. Night feeding can lead to tooth decay and other hygienic problems. It is best to give your baby milk or formula with their meal or just after their meal. Other then that I can tell you what has worked for me concerning nap time or bed time...Near bed time I just kept my daughter to a routine...bath, dress, story, then bed. Routines I feel help young babies learn what can be expected each night and in a sense this kind of eases them.

Katherine - posted on 05/27/2009

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I breastfed, but when I returned to school I put my son on formula. Formula has all the supplements that whole milk doesn't. I wouldn't hurry to get your child off the bottle, I would slowly get him off the bottle. It's really based on your child and his actions. Don't hurry though!! Wait until he's a year and start whole milk.=) but this is only my opinion, I'm also not an expert, just a mom.

Carrie - posted on 05/27/2009

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I don't want to seem like I am telling you what to do, but nine months is too early for them to be drinking whole milk...my doctor even said that to me. I started weening my son off of enfamil at 12 months or so. It took a few weeks for him to get used to whole milk but I was patient with him and it worked. I then started the sippy cup thing shortly after that and had no problems...Hope this helps.

Melissa - posted on 05/27/2009

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Hi there!
Well i started to wean my son when he was 5.5 months old...i was sick and i dont think my body was able to produce enough milk, so i started with one bottle at night. Since your milk production reduces as the day goes on, it is easier to start weaning by removing the last feeding of the day. Also, i had tried to give him breatsmilk in a bottle, and he just would not take it. as if he was saying "yeah mum, if im gonna have the breastmilk then that is gonna come from you...otherwise put something else in there!!"
My fiance was the one to feed him the bottle before bed...for a few days, and then i was able to do it......slowly but surely...i am only breastfeeding him in the morning as he is almost 7 months old....the rest of the feeds are bottles of formula, and cereal and veggies and fruit...Also, sippy cups are a bit more difficult to get them to use, because they are used to sucking a very different way. Which is why you may want to try a bottle first....because it is most like breastfeeding. Formula is kind of expensive...more so than milk, but it does have the nutrients that your baby still needs, at least until about 12 months old, when your baby will get most of the nutrients baby needs from food. Bruising and teeth are really not fun while breastfeeding...in the meantime while you are trying to wean, i suggest "lansinol"...it was the only cream that worked for me when the feeding got too sensitive!!
Good luck Pheonex, with whatever you decide to do,
cheers from a fellow Canadian mommy!!

Teresa - posted on 05/27/2009

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Well in Australia Doctor's and child health professionals recommend too start introducing cows milk from 12months of age. My son had problems with some types of formula but there are alot of brands out there so take your time finding the right one for your baby. All I can say is some women can breast feed successfully and others can't it changes because I could only breast feed my son for three weeks when he was a baby and I'm still breast feeding my daughter and she's almost 11months. If the reason for stopping is he's biting and if you do want to continue breast feeding then all I can say is take him off when he bites then put him back on. Soon he will hopefully stop. but good luck but do want you feel is better for you.

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It's very doubtful that he eats enough solid food (and certainly not a wide enough variety of solid food) for him to be switched to milk at this age. He still gets the majority of the nutrition he needs from your breastmilk. If you want to wean now, you need to switch to formula until he's at least a year old. As a previous commenter said, if he won't take a sippy cup (no way would mine at 9 mo.) you will have to use a bottle. If you are afraid he'll get "addicted" to it and it will be hard to take away later, you're probably okay at 9 months. When he gets closer to 12 months he should be able to use a sippy cup and you can ease out the bottle. When you do switch to milk, ONLY WHOLE milk is appropriate for an infant. Unlike us weight conscious adults, the fat is one of the most important parts of milk for children under age 2.

As far as him biting you, that can be fixed. My oldest bit me a couple of times and my lactation consultant said that they do that when they are not actively nursing. Because of where their tongue has to be (over their bottom teeth) when they are actually sucking, they cannot bite you and nurse at the same time. You have to pay very close attention and THE SECOND that he starts to "piddle around" (i.e. he is not actively sucking milk out) you take him OFF the breast. If he seems like he's not done, put him back on but if he doesn't latch on fully, pull him back. After a few times they learn that if they aren't drinking, they get kicked off the breast and they get more businesslike with their nursing (which saves the mom time) and they stop biting. Once I learned this technique with my first child, none of the other 3 children ever bit me.

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a pop top bottle.

My son has been using one since about 7 months. I just pull the top up a little so he only gets a little at a time.



Also there is teets you can get that you put a straw through them so they can sit up and drink normally.



As whole milk do you mean formula?

As its not recommended to give cows milk as their milk under 12 months as it does not give all the nutrients, vitamins or minerals they need. So in effect you could cause a whole heap of health problems, he might not get enough... or worse.



So if anything switch to formula.

Aunt - posted on 05/27/2009

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There are some sippy cups that are almost like a bottle that can be used. I would also suggest waiting on the milk until he is a year. At a year I found some cups with lids not sippy cups. We use them at meal times only. Since she does not need all that much milk since she eats a balanced meal and healthy snacks. She is also on 1% milk at the age of 2 1/2. I only let my daugher have 1/4juice/3/4water in her sippy cup. At nap and bedtime she only gets a cup of water to provent cavaties.

Tamara - posted on 05/27/2009

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Quoting Pheonex:

Well, I live in Canada and the health guidelines say that you are able to give babies whole milk at 9 mo. I have talked to his dr. about it and he said it's fine. He keeps teething and he bites me, so I was hoping to get him off the breast.


Ah, the biting.  What I did to discourage biting was immediately end the nursing session.  Biting = no boobie.  I'd wait a few moments and than try again.  Lather, rinse, repeat as needed.  It's a phase that will pass.  While its frustrating at times, you can definitely make it past this phase in your nursing relationship.

Melanie - posted on 05/27/2009

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If you have talked to your dr. and they say it is fine then go for it.I wouldn't worry about a bottle or sippy for bed or naps as I don't believe in laying children down to sleep with a bottle,just my personal opinion. There are many different kinds of sippy cups out there just keeping trynig til you find one he likes, if all else fails a bottle isn't that bad.

Tamara - posted on 05/27/2009

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Can I ask why you want to wean? Are you having difficulties nursing? Do you have a distracted nurser? If you tell us what is causing you to want to wean, I bet we can help.

Even if you choose to wean now, it is never advised to give an infant cow's milk before 12 months of age as their digestive system is not ready to handle it.

Kathryn - posted on 05/27/2009

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My son was on bottle until 1, but we practiced with sippy cup for water. He didn't like the usual sippy cups, and I never could get him to use one. He only used the ones with the straws in them (with the full straw going to the bottom of the cup).

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Quoting Debbie:

First of all any allergies that run in the family to dairy??? Also at nap and bedtime they should not be lying down with a bottle or anything give them the milk any way you want to and then put them down... why WHOLEmilk??? all you get with that is extra fat...part skim is just as good...and how long have you tried the sippy cup for ???Keep trying and make the milk room temp...and there are different sippy cups out there you may just have to find one he/she likes...




Babies need whole milk because they need the fat content, skim milk is not appropriate for toddlers at any point. They need the fat and the calories because of their growth rate and brain development.

Jessica - posted on 05/27/2009

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It is dangerous to start your child too early on animal milk, I suggest you consult with your doctor,but the easiest solution -hat won't cost you the co-pay-is to opt for formula and stick with the bottle. My first son used a bottle until 16 months, sucking is a natural soothing method for the child. In the west, we are one of the few cultures that weens our children before 3 years of age. Yeah I know it sounds crazy a kid walking and breastfeeding, but it's true. I am not shaming you by any mean so please don't take it that way, I just mean to say if you can stand it, let him tell you when he is done with the breast. I know, lord I know, how frustrating and demanding it is, my 8 month old is a "high needs baby" refuses the bottle, but I had already planned on breastfeeding until she was ready to stop. But anyway that's my story. Back to you, when my first born saw other kids with sippy cups he was all for it. So my suggestion, if you want him off the bottle sooner, is get him around other kids who use sippy cups. I swear peer pressure works, and at least this kind of peer pressure is in a good way!

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I disagree with Cows milk in general as I think its difficult for a baby to digest. I started my baby of full fat organic cows milk when she turned 2.
If you really want to give your baby cows milk give it to him in a bottle. My Daughter for a while would only drink milk from a bottle but water and juices from a cup.

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First of all any allergies that run in the family to dairy??? Also at nap and bedtime they should not be lying down with a bottle or anything give them the milk any way you want to and then put them down... why WHOLEmilk??? all you get with that is extra fat...part skim is just as good...and how long have you tried the sippy cup for ???Keep trying and make the milk room temp...and there are different sippy cups out there you may just have to find one he/she likes...

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He is too little for whole milk you need to wait until he is one. People don't seem to realize that just because a baby is born doesn't mean they are ready for the world. If they actually waited til they were fully developed we would have two -year pregnancies like elephants do and they would be too big to get out.

A babys digestive tract is not closed to large molecules until after six months old, and they are not ready for anything but breaastmilk until after twelve..

Amanda - posted on 05/27/2009

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You can introduce milk around 9-10 months but Canadian goverment does not say to wean off breastmilk or formula until at least a year old, and even 2 years for breastfeeding. I dont know why your doctor would ever suggest going to a whole milk diet for a 9 month old is ok, and I strongely suggest you call Health Canada 1 800 number for a second opinion on this.

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Quoting Pheonex:

In Canada, they say you can give them wholemilk at 9mo. I want to switch to milk because every time he teeths, he bites me. The bruises are not fun and being allergic to latex, I cannot use the nipple guard. But maybe switching to formula and not just milk might be the better alternative?



I don't know where in Canada you are but I'm in Ontario and everywhere here they say 12 months.  It even says on the little Nestle how to start food booklet everyone gets in the mail in the GTA.  Wholemilk is to be introduced after 12 months.

Emily - posted on 05/27/2009

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I also want to add that if its not too inconvenient, i would just keep breastfeeding until 12 months. Because if you start him on bottles, its going to be hard to get him off the bottle. Thats a battle you dont have to endure if you're breastfeeding!

Emily - posted on 05/27/2009

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He would be too young to be on whole milk at 9 months. Babies need formula or breastmilk until they are at least 12 months.

Bobbie - posted on 05/27/2009

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If he is still on formula put half formula half whole milk, gradually change his milk he'll accept it better

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I'm not sure what the latest advice on wholemilk is. If the sippy cup is not working, it might be easier to wean onto a bottle just to get your baby used to drinking something differnt. When your baby is happily drinking that then maybe try weaning onto the cup as the next step. When my son was that age, breast/formula was reccomended for first 12 months. Discouraging use of bottle was also reccomended after 12 months.

Kimberly - posted on 05/27/2009

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I would recommend at least switching to formula till he's 12 months. But my daughter was also breastfed and when I weaned I did not want to introduce a bottle at 12 months old. I started with the NUBY sippie cups they have a more bottle like nipple on them they are squishy and not hard like most sippie cups they also have a double handle for easier grabbing for babies. My daughter took to those kind very well. You could also try pumping some of your breastmilk into the sippie cup and see if he might take to it just to get him started on the cup then switch to formula or milk. I wish you all the best!!!

Kimberly - posted on 05/27/2009

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I would recommend at least switching to formula till he's 12 months. But my daughter was also breastfed and when I weaned I did not want to introduce a bottle at 12 months old. I started with the NUBY sippie cups they have a more bottle like nipple on them they are squishy and not hard like most sippie cups they also have a double handle for easier grabbing for babies. My daughter took to those kind very well. You could also try pumping some of your breastmilk into the sippie cup and see if he might take to it just to get him started on the cup then switch to formula or milk. I wish you all the best!!!

Lindsey - posted on 05/27/2009

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he does seem a bit young to go onto cows milk i would give him the formula in a bottle what is the rush for a sippy cup he is a baby i understand getting him off the breast but think it is a big change and as you say he is not taking to it try the bottles for a couple of months and then introduce the sippy cup x

Melissa - posted on 05/27/2009

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Quoting Shelly:

I would strongly discourage you from putting your 9 month old on whole milk. If you want to stop breast feeding, fine but don't start him on whole milk yet wait until he is 1 year old. One of the main reasons to wait until the age of one is that milk/dairy hinders the absorption of iron in the body. Milk is also much harder for baby to digest than breast milk or infant formula. Also the risks include Iron Deficient Anemia. Cow milk hinders the absorption of Iron and can cause anemia. Iron is crucial for baby's healthy development. Besides the risk of iron deficient anemia, if your baby drinks cow milk to replace breast milk and/or formula, baby will not receive enough Vitamin E or enough EFAs (essential fatty acids). These nutrients are also crucial to healthy growth and development. Your baby would also receive levels of protein and sodium that would be too high for baby's fragile system to handle. Cow milk protein is very difficult for an infant to digest and absorb. While formula may be cow milk based, the proteins are "pre-digested" and cultured in a way that make baby's tummy better able to tolerate them. Believe it or not, the levels of sodium (and potassium) in cow milk are very high. Too much sodium might cause an infant's kidneys to fail and as we know, high levels of sodium can lead to high blood pressure. Well that is my suggestions and I stuck to it with all of my 6 children.


 

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Quoting Rebecca:

all these suggestions are fine for children who will tolerate formula. i put my daughter on at five months and she had terrible skin and tummy reactions! i enend up putting her on goats mlk from suggestion from my dr. i put her on cows milk at 11 months. she developed just fine both menally and pyhsically. I have the same problem with my now nearly 8 month old, he has 4 teeth and loves nothing more than munching on me. extremly painful!! i have absolulty no intention of puttin him on formula when i do finnaly give up bf!! hope this alternitve opinion helps. also to those who sais that cows milk is for baby cows, what do yuo think formula is based on?



Hi, just to let you know- another poster has already addressed  what formula is made from-

Melissa - posted on 05/27/2009

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Quoting Rebecca:

all these suggestions are fine for children who will tolerate formula. i put my daughter on at five months and she had terrible skin and tummy reactions! i enend up putting her on goats mlk from suggestion from my dr. i put her on cows milk at 11 months. she developed just fine both menally and pyhsically. I have the same problem with my now nearly 8 month old, he has 4 teeth and loves nothing more than munching on me. extremly painful!! i have absolulty no intention of puttin him on formula when i do finnaly give up bf!! hope this alternitve opinion helps. also to those who sais that cows milk is for baby cows, what do yuo think formula is based on?



Hi, just to let you know- another poster has already addressed  what formula is made from-

Rebecca - posted on 05/27/2009

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all these suggestions are fine for children who will tolerate formula. i put my daughter on at five months and she had terrible skin and tummy reactions! i enend up putting her on goats mlk from suggestion from my dr. i put her on cows milk at 11 months. she developed just fine both menally and pyhsically. I have the same problem with my now nearly 8 month old, he has 4 teeth and loves nothing more than munching on me. extremly painful!! i have absolulty no intention of puttin him on formula when i do finnaly give up bf!! hope this alternitve opinion helps. also to those who sais that cows milk is for baby cows, what do yuo think formula is based on?

Suzanne - posted on 05/27/2009

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your son should not really be drinking plain milk until he's about a year old anyway. use formula and go slow with the sippy. there are also several kinds of sippy cups. my daughter ended up only liking the nuby ones with the straw (like a camelbak straw). try a few different kinds and be patient. you might have to use the bottle as you're teaching him to use the sippy.

Samantha - posted on 05/27/2009

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I never breast fed, but I was told by the pediatricians in my area, 1 yr old before giving whole milk and at that time take the bottle away. Well, my daughter drank from a bottle longer than that. I slowly weaned her off the bottle and the transaction from a bottle to a sippy cup was a smooth one. I enjoyed the bonding time I had with her by giving her a bottle. In the long run, you have to do what you feel is right.

Jennifer - posted on 05/26/2009

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Also breastfeed as long as you can. I guarantee, you will miss the binding time. Nursing is good to do til they eat efficiently enough to get the nutrients they need. Milk is not necessary to give as often as you would nurse. Check out WIC's info on it. They promote less milk when the baby eats real food. the milk can fill them up and they won't eat regular food. Milk doesn't have alll they need to grow properly.

Jennifer - posted on 05/26/2009

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Whole milk is not good for babies 'til they are 1yr. I could cause allergy to milk. I used the Platex sippy cups because they baby has to suck to get the juice out. It takes about a day to get used to it but my kids loved them.

Renee - posted on 05/26/2009

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Well go for it sister! You'll know if your guy isn't tolerating it, diarrhea, stomach cramps, fussiness, vomiting. I still would recommend weaning though. Best wishes!

Vicki - posted on 05/26/2009

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Quoting Pheonex:

Well, I live in Canada and the health guidelines say that you are able to give babies whole milk at 9 mo. I have talked to his dr. about it and he said it's fine. He keeps teething and he bites me, so I was hoping to get him off the breast.



http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/dca-dea/prena...



 



From Public Health Canada-



"Health Canada and the World Health Organization recommend that it should be the only food or drink for the first 6 months of life and after that breastfeeding should continue - with the gradual introduction of solid foods - for 2 years and more."



 



2 years, it says in Canada. Not 9 months.

Renee - posted on 05/26/2009

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I just read some of your postings. When I weaned from breastfeeding I pumped and saved breastmilk in the freezer. This was easy because I worked nights. I then mixed some of my milk with formula in the bottle. Weaning was very easy for me.

Renee - posted on 05/26/2009

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I am a mom of 3 and an RN. I think your little man is a bit young for whole milk. Their tummies just aren't fully developed. I breastfed for 6 months then formula. when they were 11 months I started introducing whole milk by mixing 3/4 formula + 1/4 milk. The next week 1/2 form + 1/2 milk. The next week 1/4 from + 3/4 milk. The last week it was all milk in their sippie cup. By then my guys loved the milk. bye bye bottles! Hope this helps! God bless!

Lacey - posted on 05/26/2009

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My baby is 10 months and while i'm not completely ready to wean him I would like a daytime alternative to breastfeeding so that I can nurse just in the morning and evening. I'm glad you posted this question because I was wondering what everyone thought about milk before 12 mos.

Gina - posted on 05/26/2009

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First let me ask you why you feel the need to continue giving milk for naps or when bedtime happens?..if the baby is old enough that you want them off bottles then the drinks at bedtime have to stop..Let it go COLD TURKEY ..make a bag and have the child put them in it and together you send it off to the "new babies that need bottles" and switch but once you do ....don't go back ( REALLY DO GET RID OF THEM)...BUT make sure you are both prepared for this emotionally, and seriously!...over 22 yrs.... that has been my best approach!! i went all routes and this one surprised me more in time because the babies want to grow and meet new challenges as you want them too!, this is how they grow.and learn to cope with CHANGE...Cold Turkey is the way to go! give him/her a tiny drink before bed then redirect their thoughts to something else that may comfort them and make sure that it's age appropriate for their lil life now!...Plus baby sleeps on Whole MILK in their tummy and it just turns to FAT, and could rot their lil teeth even!!.....i found that alot of the babies that i've taken care of that went to whole milk were constipated ALOT of the time, and along with more rashes due to the acid in the milk....it was way too harsh and fattening for their digestive systems. In any of your other milks you may choose even skim milk, they all still provide the vitamins they need that you may be searching for with the whole milk. Look at your labels and talk to your Dr..Good Luck

Shelly - posted on 05/26/2009

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I would strongly discourage you from putting your 9 month old on whole milk. If you want to stop breast feeding, fine but don't start him on whole milk yet wait until he is 1 year old. One of the main reasons to wait until the age of one is that milk/dairy hinders the absorption of iron in the body. Milk is also much harder for baby to digest than breast milk or infant formula. Also the risks include Iron Deficient Anemia. Cow milk hinders the absorption of Iron and can cause anemia. Iron is crucial for baby's healthy development. Besides the risk of iron deficient anemia, if your baby drinks cow milk to replace breast milk and/or formula, baby will not receive enough Vitamin E or enough EFAs (essential fatty acids). These nutrients are also crucial to healthy growth and development. Your baby would also receive levels of protein and sodium that would be too high for baby's fragile system to handle. Cow milk protein is very difficult for an infant to digest and absorb. While formula may be cow milk based, the proteins are "pre-digested" and cultured in a way that make baby's tummy better able to tolerate them. Believe it or not, the levels of sodium (and potassium) in cow milk are very high. Too much sodium might cause an infant's kidneys to fail and as we know, high levels of sodium can lead to high blood pressure. Well that is my suggestions and I stuck to it with all of my 6 children.

Mel - posted on 05/26/2009

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honestly id use a bottle. it doesnt matter if he uses a cup rather then bottle does it? anywhere between 6-12 months is fine to change to whole milk. i have a 14 month old who'd only use the cup at 3-7 months old now she throws the cup and just likes the bottle. she also loved her solids from that age now now wont eat. does he use a dummy you could always give him a dummy to suck on when he goes to bed

Pheonex - posted on 05/26/2009

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In Canada, they say you can give them wholemilk at 9mo. I want to switch to milk because every time he teeths, he bites me. The bruises are not fun and being allergic to latex, I cannot use the nipple guard. But maybe switching to formula and not just milk might be the better alternative?

Pheonex - posted on 05/26/2009

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Well, I live in Canada and the health guidelines say that you are able to give babies whole milk at 9 mo. I have talked to his dr. about it and he said it's fine. He keeps teething and he bites me, so I was hoping to get him off the breast.

Jackie - posted on 05/26/2009

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9 months?? that's kind of early. but that's your decision :) i tried taking my sons bottle away when he was a year and he wasn't having it, so I would just put a little milk in it and let him play with it at the times he ate, just so he could get used to it and kind of associate it with his food. He just started drinking from it about a week or so ago. They'll take it when they're ready.

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