John & Kate plus 8 .....

Margot - posted on 06/22/2009 ( 161 moms have responded )

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Okay so everyone has an opinion of this show, although I don't think it's appropriate to call it a show. They are a real family, with 8 innocent children. I just love watching them tho. I've been watching since they had their very first "multiple" special. I'm just curious what everyone else thinks of it all.

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Renee - posted on 06/24/2009

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So bummed that they aren't fighting a little harder to stay together. I wish they had called the show quits at the first sign of trouble and re-focused on just the two of them.

Kate CP - posted on 06/24/2009

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Never liked it. Kate always seemed bitchy and John seems, well, like a pussy. And now to hear about all this cheating and lying and fake stuff just makes it worse. I didn't like the show before and now I just can't stand them. The kids are cute, though. I feel for them. :(

*Fluffy Bunnies - posted on 06/24/2009

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I like watching them too because the kids are so cute and it makes my life seem so simple. I think it's very sad that they are splitting up. I thought they might try counseling or something. I feel bad for the kids, this all has to be so hard for them.

Joyce - posted on 06/24/2009

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she brought this on all her self what did she expect by exposing them kids to cameras since they were born he told her he didnt want to do the show anymore but she got to greedy she deserves whats thrown at her he should get coustdy of the kids

Amanda - posted on 06/24/2009

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Quoting Rachel:

I am very sad to hear that they seem to be splitting up. I think that they should make it work. they should not give in, they have to set an example for their children. I dont even know what it is that is causing them to devide.



Not sure why either on the split, I have a feeling tho the media has gotten in the way.  I agree they should work on it for the kids sake.  I hate to see any child be the victim of a divorce.

Amanda - posted on 06/24/2009

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It makes me sad that they are splitting up. The show definetly isn't the same show it once was. My heart goes out to those 8 sweethearts. My daughter loves watching them. But it doesn't really surprise me that their marriage is ending in chaios(not sure on spelling). Most of the celebrity reality shows have ended up in divorce as well. I just pray that that kids aren't too scarred for life with all the drama going on.

Rachel - posted on 06/24/2009

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I am very sad to hear that they seem to be splitting up. I think that they should make it work. they should not give in, they have to set an example for their children. I dont even know what it is that is causing them to devide.

?? - posted on 06/24/2009

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Quoting Jennifer:



Quoting Jo:

If you look at any other show, reality TV or not... the story line will change - the main character will change from mom to dad to the oldest kid to the youngest kid and back again. TLC is a commercial tv channel that will portray whatever they feel will get the ratings - whether that is lil Aiden getting a skinned knee - Cara getting her period - Jon dating Britney Spears or Kate dating Mikey from OCC!!!!!







HAHAHA!  Kate dating Mikey from OCC!!!  That is hiLARious!!!!!






Wouldn't it be freakin funny?!?! I can see it now.... he's amazing with the kids! Mikey and Kate's exercise plan - how to lose 100lbs of chub, 25lbs of facial hair, 10lbs of pony tail all while gettin a mani, pedi, and reading US Weekly!!!!!!!!!!!!



Jon will team up with Paul Jr to open a new shop so that Jon can get the spotlight back from Kate and Paul Jr can get the spot light away from Paul Sr who is now Mady & Cara's new fave grandpa!!!!!!



Shit... I should write plot lines for TLC Jon & Kate +8.........



And then we could have a spin off called Jon & Kate 18+ and it will be about Jon goin to clubs - Kate & Mikey's sex tapes - and then Kate will end up prego again!!!!



Oh the possibilities are endless!



 



PS: I still hate her hair.



 

Liz - posted on 06/24/2009

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I love the show. I also started watching it when the first started the show. My 2 yr even watches it too. I feel so bad for the kids. Its so sad to see how the show has torn the family apart, but I do repect them for thinking about there kids first and not themselves. Or so they say! I will keep watching to see how the rest of the seaon gose but I also do think they need to quit taping so they can focus on there problems. I wish them the best!

Jennifer - posted on 06/24/2009

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Quoting Jo:

If you look at any other show, reality TV or not... the story line will change - the main character will change from mom to dad to the oldest kid to the youngest kid and back again. TLC is a commercial tv channel that will portray whatever they feel will get the ratings - whether that is lil Aiden getting a skinned knee - Cara getting her period - Jon dating Britney Spears or Kate dating Mikey from OCC!!!!!




HAHAHA!  Kate dating Mikey from OCC!!!  That is hiLARious!!!!!

Jennifer - posted on 06/24/2009

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Quoting Jo:

If you look at any other show, reality TV or not... the story line will change - the main character will change from mom to dad to the oldest kid to the youngest kid and back again. TLC is a commercial tv channel that will portray whatever they feel will get the ratings - whether that is lil Aiden getting a skinned knee - Cara getting her period - Jon dating Britney Spears or Kate dating Mikey from OCC!!!!!




HAHAHA!  Kate dating Mikey from OCC!!!  That is hiLARious!!!!!

Jennifer - posted on 06/24/2009

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Quoting Victoria:

I thought last night's episode was really sad. And when Jon was so "excited" about starting his new life it made my stomach turn. When you have eight children, you can't just go off and start a new life.

And how about when he said that he had to start sticking up for himself.... wahhhhh...



SOOOOOO true!!  I could not agree with you more!!!

Beth - posted on 06/24/2009

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I am sure that their marriage has had struggle way before having the sextuplets. Kate was very demeaning to Jon. She wore the "pants in that marriage". and as Jon said he was a passive person and when he finally "woke up , spoke up to betreated better, Kate did not like it. She did not have total control. Marriage takes 2. Reality T.V. is not what it's cracked up to be. But the big suggestion was , they should have stopped the show, went into intense CHRISTIAN counselling (as Kate says they are Christian in her book) work through what he and she both needed to work on and change. Raising 1, 2 , 4, 8 kids is difficult no matter what. They thought doing the T.V. show would help financially. Well it did to some degree but was it worth it.? The money is not going to continue to roll in after this all dies down. Reality is both or Jon may just have to work.OMG! A wise man by the name BIlly Graham said-" We have allowed the evils of this earthly world to take over--- THE seven deadly sins!

Sarah - posted on 06/24/2009

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I completely agree!! I was so mad,and then the way he was saying" I dont hate Kate, I am doing this for me and my children." Made me want to scream... I hate his " NEW" look also, he looks retarded with his ears pierced!!

Sarah - posted on 06/24/2009

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I loved the show as well. Sad for the children to have to deal with such a terrible thing. I wish the parents would of stepped back and realized what was happening to their beautiful family. As for the "Big Announcement" why do that on TV. Now their children will have not only a mental memory of this terrible thing, but a tape to replay. I would of hoped they would of worked a little harder on their marriage as much as they worked on looking good for the show. I really did like the show, and will most likely cont. to watch their show. I just feel sorry for the children having to be in the middle of all of this matter.

Jennifer - posted on 06/24/2009

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Quoting Victoria:

I thought last night's episode was really sad. And when Jon was so "excited" about starting his new life it made my stomach turn. When you have eight children, you can't just go off and start a new life.

And how about when he said that he had to start sticking up for himself.... wahhhhh...



Ugh, I totally agree.



How can a 30-something year old man with eight children sit there with fake diamond earrings in his ears and say that he is excited to start his new life, and that hes proud of himself for sticking up for himself?!?



kate treated him like an idiot because he IS AN IDIOT..hes much happier snowboarding and screwing university students instead of taking care of his brood of children.



He has always been cold and miserable, even when kate used to get excited when he came home from work...



He deserves a harsh slap across the head for his actions.

Lisa - posted on 06/24/2009

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i feel bad for everyone in this situation. the kids will miss there father but at least they have each other. and how is kate supposed to find another man with her eight kids. also, jon is going to be paying alot of child support for all his kids. they should just try to work it out and leave the show alone. who cares what everyone else thinks, they should get alot of counseling to help thier marriage.

Natasha - posted on 06/24/2009

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I like the show. I am sad to hear that they are getting divorced, but I think the show should stop. Jon has a valid point. It's putting a lot of pressure on those kids and their whole life is like one big freak show.

Jeanne - posted on 06/24/2009

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I loved the earlier shows and my kids love watching the reruns. It was interesting to see how they handled having so many same aged children running around. But I think it is sad that they are now using it so Kate and Jon can tell their versions of their problems. I find it sad that they are divorcing and I feel real bad for these poor innocent kids. Am I the only one that thinks that Kate seems to have turned colder towards her children in the last season and a half? I don't care what the tabloids say or don't I have always felt bad for Jon for the way she spoke to him, treated him and teased him about his weight. I know that all couples have their own way of doing things but I found it a little over the top. I just hope that they end the show alltogether and get whatever help they might need individually or as a group to adjust to the new reality of this "new chapter" in their lives.

Maria - posted on 06/24/2009

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I think it is selfish of the 2 of them to continue the show to "provide" for there children. They should work on their marriage and family. Comes to show you what there priorities are. They say they are doing it for the kids...NOT it's all for themselves...SAD

Tara - posted on 06/24/2009

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I loved their show and it sucks to see them get a divorce, but whats even worst is the way they are going to start doing the shows now. Each week or however many days they switch it up sometimes Kate will be there and sometimes John will be there. Either way I don't think thats healthy for the kids to see their parents not together and then switching it up on them in their own house.

Roberta - posted on 06/24/2009

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I agree with you. They should have been in marriage counseling long ago. John needed to be less passive and stand up for himself. The combination of his passive behavior and her dominating behavior was not good. If they were unwilling to get counseling it is best that they divorce, as their relationship was miserable for both of them, and a bad example for their kids.

Desiree - posted on 06/24/2009

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I used to really like this show when it was about real people who were facing the unusual challenge of raising eight children. I actually live near where they used to live and thought it was neat to see that they went to the same places I went. I guess that kind of cemented the whole "normal" part of their lives. However, I've always hated how Kate treated Jon. I know that sometimes I can get a little testy with my husband and that to strangers, it may seem that I'm being disrespectful. With Kate, though, it was constant and on national television, no less. She criticized him for breathing too loudly, for goodness sake. It seems like he could never do right by her so no wonder he lost confidence. From other articles that I've read, it sounds like Jon didn't want to have children right away, but Kate did and then bam they wind up with 8 kids. I can understand how he'd feel trapped but now feels liberated. I am disgusted with his behavior of late, though, because I don't think he's acting in the interest of his children. Why in the world would he be moving to another state? I had hoped that the announcement would be that they were going to cancel the show for the sake of their marriage. I believe that Jon made it clear that he did not like doing the show any longer, but Kate trumped his decision. In my mind, she brought all of this about herself because she likes the money, the "fame," the perks for her kids, and the attention.

?? - posted on 06/24/2009

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I'm sorry I gotta ask here.... the show is a reality tv show about JON & KATE + 8.... why does it have to be about the kids? Every episode I saw (I watched the whole marathon thing before the season premier this year cause I was bored and there was nothing else on TV) was about Jon & Kate and things they did with the kids... there was never a focus on the children, it was always focused on Jon & Kate... I think a lot of people are forgetting that it's a reality TV show about a family that is real... story lines change as life changes.



If you look at any other show, reality TV or not... the story line will change - the main character will change from mom to dad to the oldest kid to the youngest kid and back again. TLC is a commercial tv channel that will portray whatever they feel will get the ratings - whether that is lil Aiden getting a skinned knee - Cara getting her period - Jon dating Britney Spears or Kate dating Mikey from OCC!!!!!



The Show Is NOT About The Children. It's About Their Life. Jon & Kate are doing a DAMN good job in my eyes censoring what TLC shows so that their children will only see on the show what they probably have already discussed with them! Censoring the newspapers is harder but chances are the kids won't ever read whats in EVERY newspaper/magazine and if they do - Jon & Kate will have already spoke to them about it so they most probably won't believe it to be true.

Rashunda - posted on 06/24/2009

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I couldn't help but to see the metaphor in the fact that they purchsed "crooked houses" and had them put up on the last show. I watched with my husband and we couldn't help but to see the emotion in their faces during the last interviews. It's sad. Sending a Wish Well their way.

Jenni - posted on 06/24/2009

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i absolutely adored the show when it first came out! but last season and now this season... blah... they use to be a family we could relate to... now they're just a sideshow... it use to be about all the kids... last season it was all like "look at our big new house, look at our new clothes and hair... look at all the money we have" it just became so fake and commercial... it seemed they were trying to cover everything up in a neat little package and bow for what was really underlying beneath the whole fasade... and now this season is no longer about the kids just jon and kate's drama and how their whole little "perfect life" is coming unravelled... i feel sorry for their children, it's hard enough for kids to endure their parents' divorce let alone have every moment of it filmed like they're some freakshow for our viewing pleasure... i see now how they were pawns to kate's material obsession

~Jennifer - posted on 06/24/2009

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Quoting Lorie:


I have watched them from the very beginning. And I think it is a crying shame that it has come down to something like this, and pray that hopefully they get all this crap settled without having to put those poor little kids through a divorce. I don't think that all the media attention has helped matters any.




I agree completely about the media attention. It's like a few days back when the 'news' (and I use that term loosely) posted pics of Kate spanking her daughter. How long was the lens that the 'journalist' (again, used loosely) used from whatever camouflaged tree? This may sound stupid, but when my husband used to wrestle (wwe style) at small independent shows (anywhere from 100-500 fans), I had people that would try to take pictures of me changing my son's diaper....just regular small town folk, but they WANTED that picture of his son. Why? It was so annoying! People were taking pics 'just in case' my husband somehow got a contract and became 'famous'. (background: his side of the family are Samoan pro-wrestlers) If that can happen to us on such a small scale, imagine what it must be like having every moment of your life under a microscope while someone waits with a camera for you to do something 'newsworthy' if you've already gained some level of popularity.

Joanna - posted on 06/24/2009

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You know if Jon said that the best thing is communitcation, why is there none!? He's apparently the one who's not telling Kate things and keeping all his anger and frustration to himself. Why don't they go to counseling at their church or something? Those poor kids just trying to grow up happily and now their parents can't even look at each other. 10 years down the drain. Did their wedding in Hawaii mean nothing? It's so sad.

Lorie - posted on 06/24/2009

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I have watched them from the very beginning. And I think it is a crying shame that it has come down to something like this, and pray that hopefully they get all this crap settled without having to put those poor little kids through a divorce. I don't think that all the media attention has helped matters any.

Carolyn - posted on 06/24/2009

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Money is not the root of all evil ... the LOVE of money is . I am very sad also that they split. I was hoping that they would quit the show and work on the marriage and family. People know they are Christians and we needed to know that a couple was putting their marriage before the LOVE of money. We didn't get that and I think a lot of us are sad and disappointed.

Lilly - posted on 06/24/2009

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Sounds as if everyone has an opinion, so I'll add mine to the pot. Why did they decide to have this reality show in the first place? Why in the world would a family be vulnerable enough to place their precious family time out in front of gawking eyes, and then wonder why their marriage is going down the tubes. To have to parent 8 children in front of your own community is enough pressure, but to try to be the super parents on a show, "starring" your own children is asking for disaster from the get-go!



We all have our issues in marriage, and that is why I believe it is so sad and thoughtless that these two grown adults didn't see this as a wrench thrown into their already troubled marriage. Anyone could see the tension between the two of them, even at the beginning, And they say they were doing this all for the children? The nucleus of any family is not the children, but the marriage. The chidlren would have survived had they even been living on peanut butter and jelly sandwiches, without all the cameras, and with a mother and father who loved each other.



Both Jon and Kate will have to be molded by God, if they believe in God. And until they do, then no one can put their marriage back together. It is going to have to be an act of forgiveness and grace on both of their parts. Right now, the act of SELFISHNESS is the steering wheel for their own lives and not the lives of their precious children.



The show should have never been initiated in the first place.

Sarah - posted on 06/23/2009

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I was hoping for a show cancellation as well -- in hopes that it meant working on their marriage. Everyone has an opinion of what these two are doing, but the fact is, we don't see EVERYTHING. What we do see enables us to form these REAL, living, breathing people into reality tv CHARACTERS. I will say that I read that Kate said regardless what happens, the show MUST go on. That, I must say, made me ave less than positive feelings toward her. The show is NOT the be-all, end-all. Well, maybe, in this case, it WAS the end-all.

Brandi - posted on 06/23/2009

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I have been a Jon & Kate Plus 8 fan for a little while now, I can't seem to get enough of that lil' Aiden! He's just sooo adorable! I mean, all the kids are cute, but Aiden pulls at my heart strings. :)



I've never been too big a fan of Kate as I think she treats Jon like crap, she belittles him on tv and treats him as though he is a child. Their relationship is not that of an equal relationship. I've read a lot saying that Kate came from nothing, basically, growing up in a trailor and wearing hand-me-downs and I think being the "reality tv celebrity" went to her head. I cannot say that I fault her for trying to provide for her children as I think any mother should, I just think that she got a little too caught up and took things too far.



She mentioned on an interview after all of this happened that her attitude comes from having so many children and being in need most all of the time. Where I have only two children, I can understand as I think things get the best of me sometimes as well. I cannot imagine having to deal with 8 kids all the time, especially with Maddy. Maddy is enough to put ANY mom into a funk with her crying and whining and demanding all of the time. Granted, a lot of people behind the scenes say that Kate is hardly ever around and only interacts with the children when the camera is on... I suppose it's all in what you believe. Her words vs. theirs.



I think it's written all over the place that Jon cheated and I believe he did. My Husband agrees with everything Jon did, everything Jon says during his separate interviews and says that Kate had it coming, that she's a b**** that got what she deserved. He sympathizes and empathizes with Jon as he has lived his life and been in his same shoes before. I know what we went through and I wouldn't wish it on anybody, ever. Some women out there are just psycho crazy, some want to be in complete control and some trap men in loveless relationships. We're not all saints, but some women truly are damaged goods.



I feel sorry for the children-- How can you not? I often wonder how their lives are going to fair when they are older and if they're going to be another story of fame turned one-hit-wonder on the E! Channel with a True Hollywood Story. I don't imagine all 8 will do great things, but I hope they will. I think that their lives shouldn't be followed and documented the way they are, but I am not their Mommy... so who am I to say?



I just hate that it's having to happen to them at such a young age and so publically.







Oh! And by the way-- After next Monday's episode of J&K+8 (which is nothing more than a recap of their 10 year Marriage) the show will be MIA until the beginning of August to allow the family their privacy.

Ashley - posted on 06/23/2009

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Quoting Jo:

I just postedon another thread here...

I can't believe that anyone actually gives a rats ass. I don't care! I'm sorry, but just cause they have 8 kids doesn't mean they have to stay together! If they can't be civil together then they are doing what is best for those 8 kids by seperating. Whether it's 1 kid or 8 kids or 12 dozen kids.... people change, people grow in different directions, and if Jon wants to be a 32 yr old college guy, and Kate wants to be a writer and they can't get along together then they sure aren't helping those kids by staying together and being miserable.

This is kinda the whole idea behind them gettin sick of the TV show too... people care so much about their lives now that people who have no clue except what they read in US Weekly think they have the right to be MAD at them, tell them to grow up, critisize them for making decisions in their lives.

Whether they get back together, whether they divorce, whether the kids end up as presidents or drug dealers, it's gonna happen one way or another - mom & dad arguing together or mom & dad civil apart - I'm gonna say the latter is the better of the 2 evils.

If they stayed together for the kids and faked it - how the hell do you think those kids would feel in 10-15 years when they are all grown up and Jon & Kate divorce and say "we stayed together for the kids"? Even more so, these children will be living EVERY DAY, with it being DOCUMENTED, the whole entire world seeing it... just to be told the happiness was FAKE! Anyone who thinks them staying together for the kids is a good thing, is sick in the head.

By the way, I hate Kate's hair. I always have. I very rarely watched the show, just caught it here and there. But... her hair has always pissed me off. The only time it looks good is just after she gets it cut.

Anyways... life is life. They won't have the TV show forever, every show gets cancelled at some point... I don't see Jon & Kate lasting for 25 years. It might last a couple more years because they will have to show Mady & Cara goin through puberty, Jon dating again, Kate turning to Britney for advice... that kinda shit - that makes for good TV ya know! Like I said, people change, circumstances change, life changes...

People keep saying the money went to their heads, the celebrity went their heads, it's about what they get and who they get it from, it's commercial, it's not about the kids its about Jon and Kate.................... well... YEA! The public basically makes that happen to EVERY reality show family! They have to buy a bigger house and nice clothes otherwise the people are saying WHY DON'T THEY BUY A BIGGER HOUSE AND WEAR NICER CLOTHES! The only reason the celebrity is goin to their heads is cause people keep wanting to know where they are at every hour of the day so there's photographers following them - again, fueled by the publics incessant need to watch them. What they get and from who - if they didn't show what they got and who it was from people would be saying that they are ungrateful for the gifts they recieve becuase you never see or hear about it. And of course it's commercial..... IT'S TV! And it is about the kids, and part of the kids life is JON AND KATE.

Lose lose... in the end...... people need to worry about their own life. Enjoy the show, have fun being allowd to watch their lives unfold but get over it. If you don't like it, change the channel or pick up a different magazine.



lol i love your post! everything you have said is sooo true. i personally cant stand her. i hope he finds someone that will treat him better but to be honest i dont really care what happens. there are so many other families out there going through the same thing. divorce happens everyday. the show will eventually end up getting boring, the ratings will go down and TLC will eventually cancel it then you wont hear of them anymore. just like every other reality tv show.

Ashley - posted on 06/23/2009

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Quoting Jo:

I just postedon another thread here...

I can't believe that anyone actually gives a rats ass. I don't care! I'm sorry, but just cause they have 8 kids doesn't mean they have to stay together! If they can't be civil together then they are doing what is best for those 8 kids by seperating. Whether it's 1 kid or 8 kids or 12 dozen kids.... people change, people grow in different directions, and if Jon wants to be a 32 yr old college guy, and Kate wants to be a writer and they can't get along together then they sure aren't helping those kids by staying together and being miserable.

This is kinda the whole idea behind them gettin sick of the TV show too... people care so much about their lives now that people who have no clue except what they read in US Weekly think they have the right to be MAD at them, tell them to grow up, critisize them for making decisions in their lives.

Whether they get back together, whether they divorce, whether the kids end up as presidents or drug dealers, it's gonna happen one way or another - mom & dad arguing together or mom & dad civil apart - I'm gonna say the latter is the better of the 2 evils.

If they stayed together for the kids and faked it - how the hell do you think those kids would feel in 10-15 years when they are all grown up and Jon & Kate divorce and say "we stayed together for the kids"? Even more so, these children will be living EVERY DAY, with it being DOCUMENTED, the whole entire world seeing it... just to be told the happiness was FAKE! Anyone who thinks them staying together for the kids is a good thing, is sick in the head.

By the way, I hate Kate's hair. I always have. I very rarely watched the show, just caught it here and there. But... her hair has always pissed me off. The only time it looks good is just after she gets it cut.

Anyways... life is life. They won't have the TV show forever, every show gets cancelled at some point... I don't see Jon & Kate lasting for 25 years. It might last a couple more years because they will have to show Mady & Cara goin through puberty, Jon dating again, Kate turning to Britney for advice... that kinda shit - that makes for good TV ya know! Like I said, people change, circumstances change, life changes...

People keep saying the money went to their heads, the celebrity went their heads, it's about what they get and who they get it from, it's commercial, it's not about the kids its about Jon and Kate.................... well... YEA! The public basically makes that happen to EVERY reality show family! They have to buy a bigger house and nice clothes otherwise the people are saying WHY DON'T THEY BUY A BIGGER HOUSE AND WEAR NICER CLOTHES! The only reason the celebrity is goin to their heads is cause people keep wanting to know where they are at every hour of the day so there's photographers following them - again, fueled by the publics incessant need to watch them. What they get and from who - if they didn't show what they got and who it was from people would be saying that they are ungrateful for the gifts they recieve becuase you never see or hear about it. And of course it's commercial..... IT'S TV! And it is about the kids, and part of the kids life is JON AND KATE.

Lose lose... in the end...... people need to worry about their own life. Enjoy the show, have fun being allowd to watch their lives unfold but get over it. If you don't like it, change the channel or pick up a different magazine.



lol i love your post! everything you have said is sooo true. i personally cant stand her. i hope he finds someone that will treat him better but to be honest i dont really care what happens. there are so many other families out there going through the same thing. divorce happens everyday. the show will eventually end up getting boring, the ratings will go down and TLC will eventually cancel it then you wont hear of them anymore. just like every other reality tv show.

Cathy - posted on 06/23/2009

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Honestly, I don't know how Jon managed to stay with Kate for as long as he did...he put up with a helluva lot from her, she micromanaged every minute of every day and expected him to just do as he was told and follow her lead...how many men do you know that would tolerate that? She was completely in control of every aspect of their lives, and it got to the point where he just couldn't stand it anymore. Everyone has their breaking point and he got to his, obviously.



Kate needs some serious lessons in letting go of her control issues.

Victoria - posted on 06/23/2009

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I thought last night's episode was really sad. And when Jon was so "excited" about starting his new life it made my stomach turn. When you have eight children, you can't just go off and start a new life.



And how about when he said that he had to start sticking up for himself.... wahhhhh...

?? - posted on 06/23/2009

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I just postedon another thread here...



I can't believe that anyone actually gives a rats ass. I don't care! I'm sorry, but just cause they have 8 kids doesn't mean they have to stay together! If they can't be civil together then they are doing what is best for those 8 kids by seperating. Whether it's 1 kid or 8 kids or 12 dozen kids.... people change, people grow in different directions, and if Jon wants to be a 32 yr old college guy, and Kate wants to be a writer and they can't get along together then they sure aren't helping those kids by staying together and being miserable.



This is kinda the whole idea behind them gettin sick of the TV show too... people care so much about their lives now that people who have no clue except what they read in US Weekly think they have the right to be MAD at them, tell them to grow up, critisize them for making decisions in their lives.



Whether they get back together, whether they divorce, whether the kids end up as presidents or drug dealers, it's gonna happen one way or another - mom & dad arguing together or mom & dad civil apart - I'm gonna say the latter is the better of the 2 evils.



If they stayed together for the kids and faked it - how the hell do you think those kids would feel in 10-15 years when they are all grown up and Jon & Kate divorce and say "we stayed together for the kids"? Even more so, these children will be living EVERY DAY, with it being DOCUMENTED, the whole entire world seeing it... just to be told the happiness was FAKE! Anyone who thinks them staying together for the kids is a good thing, is sick in the head.



By the way, I hate Kate's hair. I always have. I very rarely watched the show, just caught it here and there. But... her hair has always pissed me off. The only time it looks good is just after she gets it cut.



Anyways... life is life. They won't have the TV show forever, every show gets cancelled at some point... I don't see Jon & Kate lasting for 25 years. It might last a couple more years because they will have to show Mady & Cara goin through puberty, Jon dating again, Kate turning to Britney for advice... that kinda shit - that makes for good TV ya know! Like I said, people change, circumstances change, life changes...



People keep saying the money went to their heads, the celebrity went their heads, it's about what they get and who they get it from, it's commercial, it's not about the kids its about Jon and Kate.................... well... YEA! The public basically makes that happen to EVERY reality show family! They have to buy a bigger house and nice clothes otherwise the people are saying WHY DON'T THEY BUY A BIGGER HOUSE AND WEAR NICER CLOTHES! The only reason the celebrity is goin to their heads is cause people keep wanting to know where they are at every hour of the day so there's photographers following them - again, fueled by the publics incessant need to watch them. What they get and from who - if they didn't show what they got and who it was from people would be saying that they are ungrateful for the gifts they recieve becuase you never see or hear about it. And of course it's commercial..... IT'S TV! And it is about the kids, and part of the kids life is JON AND KATE.



Lose lose... in the end...... people need to worry about their own life. Enjoy the show, have fun being allowd to watch their lives unfold but get over it. If you don't like it, change the channel or pick up a different magazine.

Marsha - posted on 06/23/2009

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I have a hard time with people who claim that there isn't anything that God can't help them work out. I believe in God but I also believe we have to take care of ourselves too. I would never think to judge either one of them and I'm sure it is a hard decision for both of them. You say the children will never get over it. They will never forget it but they will get past it. I was divorced when 2 of my children were young. I tried and tried to make it work but it was not to be. One person cannot make a marriage. Some of you need to understand that. My children grew up to be normal, happy children. They have had memories of the arguments between me and my first husband and remember that very much. I loved them and cared for them and gave them my time and they grew up remembering the fun times we had together, just the 3 of us. It is not always better to stay together. Even though they have their reality show, we do not see them 24 hours a day nor live their llives. They will do whatever they feel is best.

Wanda - posted on 06/23/2009

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I have to say...I loved the show in the beginning, because it felt honest and it was about the family and adjusting to 2 sets of multiples. I think that over the years, Kate had to become as organized as she became in order to survive. She was just overwhelmed. I'm sure Jon was too, but he was able to make himself realize that things will get done when they get done. Kate freaked out, so she became obsessive and bossy and too military like. I can relate to the fact that when one parent is able to take a more laid back attitude, the other one (usually the mom) gets "stuck" with making sure things DO get done when they need to. It's very stressing and exhausting, so I do believe that a lot of that had to push Kate towards who she is now. Of course, this does not excuse her of never being appreciative of the wonderful husband she had. He helped much more than many husbands do, and I don't think I ever heard her say "Thank you" and mean it. This, of course, had to take a toll on Jon eventually. how much did he take through the years? A lot. He just got tired of it. Understandable. And I think that Kate should let go of her pride and recognize her faults. They should try and talk about what bothered them, and try to at least be friends. I know it's hard to be parents of 8 kids, but it just makes sense that if they could manage when they were babies and didn't have as many things as they do now, why can't they manage now???

Melinda - posted on 06/23/2009

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It is very sad but what I think is worse is all of us sitting on the sidelines critizing them. Parents of multiple have a high divorce rate. Take it from a parent of twins it isn't easy let allow a set of six. Divorce happens. It is better for the children to see their parents diovorced then stay together"for the sake of the children" and fight all the time. Who are we to say they didn't work on their marriage. Yes I am sure the show was hard on them but look at all the opertunities the children have had because of the show. Try putting yourself in their shoes and walk a mile then see how you feel

Shannon - posted on 06/23/2009

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Okay I understand that everyone has a problem with the show saying that’s its bad for the kids but have you ever thought what it has allowed them to do for the kids. Most people cant do half the stuff they have done for the kids plus it has got to be hard in the money part. I’m a mother of two and I struggle have eight kids has to be hard. I just hope that the kids can finish growing up happy and loved!

Felicia - posted on 06/23/2009

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I agree with Deana Sanchez, i pray God will stop this madness so they can get on with their lives. This is the committment part (for better or worse) of the marriage vows. As I didn't really keep up with the happenings, nothing is to hard that God can't fix, both people should be willing to try. I've heard some people say that the children won't be affected and they'll get over it, that's not true! Children need to see their parents work things out. They need to see their parents kiss and make up. This will help them in their relationships once they are older...(as long as the relationshp is not abusive, then we have other issues that need to be handled)**i could go on with this, but i hope the point is received**

Kimberly - posted on 06/23/2009

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I was very upset and disturbed by the show. These are Christian people that have put money before God. Money is the root of all evil. And this goes to show that. I think it is crazy they think it won't affect the kids. Me and my husband seperated for 2 months once and my children still talk of this and they are going in adulthood. It will stay with them forever. If I could take it back I would have chose to get counseling first. These days people are so fast to put themselves first. Why couldn't we try and see if we can help others and get the focus off all our desires that are selfish. Not that I don't think we should take care of ourselves I mean the selfish things that we push our family to the side to persue. That will not benefit our families.

Christina - posted on 06/23/2009

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It just goes to show, money does not buy happiness

Lisa - posted on 06/23/2009

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Fame and fortune usually get the best of people so it's not surprising they got caught up in it and put their marriage on the back burner. Honestly Kate emasculated Jon all the time and then when she decided to leave him at home to take care of 8 kids that was screaming disaster. I think Jon is resentful towards Kate now and is ready to move on and live a life without a "mommy" criticizing his every action. Sad that marriage isn't worth fighting for in their eyes.

~Jennifer - posted on 06/23/2009

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Call me cynical, but what if it's just a staged gimmick to get more people interested in their lives/show? Drama sells - happiness (sadly) doesn't.

Deborah - posted on 06/23/2009

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I have to say I'm not surprised, but my heart goes out to the kids. They never asked for any of this and now they're trapped. I agree with those who said they'd hoped the announcement was about working on their marriage. That would have set a MUCH better example for their children and sent a message to all the viewers about the importance of marriage.

Sara - posted on 06/23/2009

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Although statisically parents of multiples have three times the divorce rate of a family without multiples. I'm sure putting on TV didn't help either though.

Michelle - posted on 06/23/2009

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I'm not a fan! These children need a noraml life and I think the show is more important then them at this point. Just my point of view though!!