Lice, lice everywhere.....Please Help

Desiree - posted on 01/26/2011 ( 40 moms have responded )

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My daughter has lice and i have tried most of the over-counter shampoos. If anyone has a good way of getting rid of these buggers i would really appreciate it.

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Raynelle - posted on 01/28/2011

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This sounds gross or might be a pain in the you know what, but what works really well is anyo over the counter medicine to put them to sleep i.e. drown them.Wash your daughters hair with the medicine doesn't matter which brand. When your done washing your dauhters hair, use a white towel to wrap her hair up then have her sit on another white towel with just an underwear on. By using the white towel you can see the lice and their eggs kill the ones that are in the towel first. Then use a lice comb to part your daughters hair. Grab a roll of tiolet paper and set it on a table beside you. You will have to part ur daughters hair into 4 sections.. Check the section closest to her crown and underneath by her neck first. The lice and eggs are famous to hide there. You will have to pick out the eggs one by one and the lice too, grab a piece of toilet paper maybe around 4-6 inches long and use that to kill the lice, eggs. To kill them pull the lice/eggs out with your index finger and thumb, then place lice/egg on the paper and smash with thumb nail. A lot of people don't realize if you only treat the hair the lice nad eggs are still alive they don't all die.. After you do that to her whole head. Brush her hair every morning with baby oil , this helps with the lice coming back they don't like baby oil and braid her hair or put it up in a bun. That's all the advice I can give you and it works trust me. Hope you get rid of the lice

Jessica - posted on 01/29/2011

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I know the answer to this problem! We live in India, for the past seven years, and have dealt with those little buggers so many times! The answer is to get a really good lice comb-one that will remove eggs as well, and oil the hair thoroughly and comb out the animals and eggs every day. As you pull the bugs from the hair and comb you must kill them instantly between your fingernails. If you don't hear a crunch, it's not dead! I know it sounds disgusting, but it is worth it. Lice cause a lot of unnecessary suffering.If you did this every day, it would be gone in a week.

Robin - posted on 01/27/2011

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I am a school nurse and see kids with lice a lot. I recommend a Robi Comb. It cost about $30.00 and runs on a AA battery. I have found them at Walgreen's, and I think Rite Aid and online. The secret is diligence in using the Robi Comb daily and getting rid of the newly hatched lice before they can lay more eggs which is only about 7-9 days after they are born. I reccommend that the parent comb the head with the Robi Comb two times a day for 3 weeks even if you dont see live lice for a few days. Wrap a white sheet or pillowcase around the shoulders to detect fallen ones. If you use the shampoos, you still have to comb, comb, comb as the eggs are left to hatch with most shampoos. I have families say that their kids keep getting lice over and over from others at school. I believe they just have not gotten rid of them completely and the school keeps finding them. When I checked kids manually before I got a Robi Comb, I would see maybe 2-3 lice on a head. Now with the Robi Comb I sometimes find dozens more as they run fast from light and are hard to see. The Robi Comb stuns them before they run away and they fall off or are trapped on the comb. It is still important to get them off of stuffed animals and hats etc. Lice don't live off a human host very long. The combing is the most important factor to get completly rid of lice.
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we do realise that lice can't live off the scalp right? they need that warm environment and plenty of blood to drink. Just some of the posts here are making me think that this fact has been forgotten

Cate - posted on 01/30/2011

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Sammie, what to do if there are scabs? how do I know if there eggs under them, and how do I get rid of them if there are???

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Christine - posted on 01/31/2011

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hello. this i have to say works great on the children with long hair and short. as well if time is on your side as mine were young i as well used a curling iron to heat the hair after washing it that morning to help the comb remove the nits, as well as a hair dryer on the children with short hair. this kills everything after the oil and hair washing been done.

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I think it would be better if you have ur child's hair to be cut short cause i did that with my daughter and it worked.

Vonnie - posted on 01/30/2011

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This is something I had to do to our daughters when they were in elementary all the way through high school age. It became such a problem I dyed their hair, as close to the natural color as possible. The nits can't hang onto the hair follicles. Also try rinsing with vinegar. Be sure to spray all stuffed animals with spray and seal them in a plastic bag for at least 1 week, spray all furniture, mattresses and wash every stitch of clothing and pillows. It's a very daunting task but that is what worked when my children were kids.

Amanda - posted on 01/30/2011

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i have also dealt with this problem when i was younger me having very light blonde hairs it was very easy for my mother to miss eggs in my hair, i tried every over the counter shampoo out there and then some, i do not agree with the last post of them only liking clean hair my mom also would make me go a week without washing my hair after treating the whole house and myself and they would still come back. We ended up moving and a friend i met had the same problem and she told me to treat my hair and have someone pull out every egg in my hair and then wash my hair everyday with green apple Suave shampoo for some reason they do not like the apple smell after doing this i have yet to get it back. Now having two girls of my own 1 being in school when ever there is an outbreak at school will check her head and for 2 weeks will wash her hair every night with the shampoo as well as putting her in a tight braid and putting it up in a bun on the days she has school and she has never come home with it.

Rosie - posted on 01/30/2011

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I have this problem with both of my girls....I was told that they only like clean hair...some people may not agree but I only wash my girls hair once a week and that is on a friday night so atleast by Monday when they go back to school again it is "dirty". When they have a break out I treat their hair for atleast 3 weeks in a row. During a breakout I don't wash their hair I just treat it and when I think it is clear I then start washing with tee tree oil shampoo and conditioner. I also tied their hair up for school. Good Luck cause they are painful.

Amanda - posted on 01/30/2011

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If you use Fairytales line of stuff it keeps them away. check it out.www.fairytales.com. great stuff works!!!

Elis - posted on 01/29/2011

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I have had long thick hair and when i was younger my mom used RIT...it also come with this little comb. it's very time consuming but it did the trick. also steam clean the mattress and pillows. wash any and all clothes, bed sheets, pillow cases in hot hot water...or throw away and replace. it is a pain...but it also keeps you aware for the future, for exmple don't share hats, combs, brushes, pillows...i hope this helps. try also WebMD.com online...i usually always go there before calling the doctor for non emergencies... take care

Mindy - posted on 01/28/2011

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u can try baby oil, mayonaise, or get pink sheen spray for colored ppl. they all work great!

EILEEN - posted on 01/28/2011

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Hi Desiree . I have got this info off the internet ,Buy a new Jar of Mayonnaise put a good handfull on your childs hair making sure its well coved around the ears and around the neck .now cover the head with Shower cap keep on for 2 hours ,after that time remove b/Cap and throw it in the bin .wash you hands with soap ,then wash the childs hair with Shampoo you may have to shampoo a few times to get rid of all the Mayonnaise from the hair . This info i found on the internet . from Eileen England Uk . hope it works for you .good luck

Shireen - posted on 01/28/2011

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In addition to whatever treatments you decide... try using theraneem shampoo & body wash for children - it's fabulous! All herbal and the nits hate it! :) good luck!

Rebecca - posted on 01/28/2011

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If you can't get rid of them with what you have tried contact your physician. There is medication that they can prescribe to get rid of them. When my daughter was younger we had to do that. As said make sure if she has long hair make sure to put her hair up in a ponytail. Good luck it will go away but in the mean time you have to make sure you clean everything. I took all my stuff to a laundry mat when that happened.

Victoria - posted on 01/28/2011

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When I was working as an Au Pair in London, my two boys got lice twice! The grandmother found a nit comb, the nit terminator, that combed out more than the normal comb. It has grooved teeth and I thought it was awesome.

We bought the OTC lice treatment and used it according to the directions. But in the bath every night I combed the boys hair with the comb and also used rosemary and tea tree oil in their hair. After 3 days we stopped seeing the lice, nits, and eggs in the bath.

However I would keep combing their hair thoroughly every night for 10 days, We also washed the bedding everyday, quarantined the toys that couldn't be washed or sanitized in the dryer, and let the pre-school know they had an out break.

Barbie - posted on 01/28/2011

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The best way we got rid of lice was to actually searching strand by strand and pull out the strand of hair with the lice egg on it and either toss the strands into the wood stove (fireplace) or flush the hair strands down the toilet. As far as the pillows, we put them in the dryer every night on high heat before the kidos went to bed to make sure after we picked through their hair they were not going to be reinfested. Continue to check everyday if you can. It is easy to miss an egg and you do not want it to hatch and come back again. I have learned my lesson to pay more attention and take time to thoroughly look at my child's hair to this day once a week. This school year my daughter is in 3rd grade and students in her class had lice. It started in Oct. and they are still trying to get rid of it because if you are not thorough, they will start the cycle all over again. We had it DEC. 2009 and it took us 2 months to get rid of it. Mainly because I was just using RID Shampoo Treatment. It killed the live lice, but did not help with getting rid of the eggs. Even still we did find a few live lice that we would catch and smash them between our tops of our finger nails and put in the toilet to make sure it was really gone! We were not on top of it right away and that is why we had it sooo long. Take the time for the hair and put all stuff animals tied up in a bag for a month. After putting the pillows in the dryer then put clean sheets on the bed. I did not throw away her pillow. Lice do not like heat. So put it in the dryer on high heat. The best way to go through her hair is to take one small section at a time and put the rest of the hair in a pony tail. Then the section you checked, braid it. Grab another small amount of hair and leave the rest of the hair in one pony tail. Then braid the portion you checked. Keep doing this. It helps to make sure you've seen every strand. Do this till you have all these tiny braids. Then check your daughter the next day. If you are tired, take a break for one day, but get back to it the next day and look again. This is what worked for us. A friend shared this with me of how she got rid of them and it worked : ) !!! Our blessings are with you! Hang in there! Have a great week.

Cheryl - posted on 01/27/2011

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When using over-the counter products such as "Rid" it is imperative you treat every member of the household, even if there is no visible infestation of all members. The larva, or nit, of lice is so small you may not be able to see it.

If your daughter's hair is long and thick, you may want to consider cutting it. It was very emotional for me and my daughter when we had to cut her thick, waist length hair. We talked about it first and made the decision together. We both cried. That was close to 30 years ago and she remembers the incident but she agrees it was not even close to being one of the things I did to traumatize her. There where many more that topped that one. LOL Just kidding of course.

Also, you need to disinfect and wash all clothing, coats, hats, bedding, bed, fabric chairs couches and pillows in the house. Yes, it is a lot of work! I had 3 kids and two adults living in the house. Both my husband and I worked full time. It took the entire weekend to get it accomplished. It took doing it 3 times to get it right. Every time we went through the process we cleaned a little more and finally got it right. We cut hair and shaved heads.

So Desiree, my heart goes out to you and I'll say a little prayer you find the right combination. Oh, you can get prescription medication from your doctor but you will still have to do all of the above to say goodbye once and for all to your nemesis.

Desiree - posted on 01/27/2011

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Wow thanks so much for all the helpful tips. I think i will print this and work my way down the list...i am sure one of these is going to work for me eventually....lol.

Narelle - posted on 01/27/2011

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Well depending on how many children you have and how the school is actually handling this problem.... what I have done inthe past when my children were young and had continual infestation.
1.Get a really good lice comb.
2. Olive, rice or any oil that does smell to bad.
3.Rosemary, lavander or orange oil to mix.
Completely cover the childs hair in oil with the mix 1potion rosemaryor lavender or orange to 5 part basic oil.
leave it on for the whole weekend. spending time during each day combing through the nit comb.
Wash out on Sunday night and make sure if the child has long hair tht it is braided for school.
Make sure your child knows not to leave their hats out of their bags .
Make sure you wash every thing in hot water including the hat and eucaliptus oil.
Every body in the house must be oiled up including Dad.
Good luck eventually they grow out of them some how.

Isobel - posted on 01/27/2011

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wow...a lot of advice. I was a hairstylist for 10 years and I am the lice lady at my kids' school.

It's true that lice can't jump and can't live off the scalp for more than 24 hours...that being said, they can lay a lot of nits in 24 hours and nits take a week to hatch...if you can't put stuff in the dryer on high for an hour or two, then I would recommend bagging them for over a week just to make sure all nits have hatched.

And yes, I have SEEN nits on teddy bears...my guess is that the kid slept on it like a pillow but still...it CAN happen.

Another thing...you say you used "shampoo" most commercial treatments are actually conditioners, you need to wash the hair...towel dry it AND THEN apply it...then not use conditioner for a week cause conditioner makes the treatment ineffective.

Whatever you use, make sure that you read the instructions CAREFULLY...cause if the nits survive the treatment, they may become resistant to it.

Happy Nitpicking ;)

Louise - posted on 01/27/2011

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Headrin is a spray on louse spray widely used in the UK it is a 10 minute treatment that the whole family use and is available at the chemist. This is the one that we used when I picked up lice from playing hairdressers at playgroup! :-(

Jackie - posted on 01/27/2011

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I hate those nasty little bastards but have had plenty of expreience with them in grade school. I swear I could be in the same state with someone that had it and I was doomed for sure.

First, only use vinigar or oil AFTER you've used either over the counter treatment (Nix or RID) or Rx (Quall or something like that). Those things only help to loosen the nits from the hair follicle but it's doesn't kill them so if you miss just one, you're screwed.

You will need to sit down in good light (sun light is best) and go through every inch of hair with the special comb. Get comfy because it's going to take a while. Repeat in a few days in case any new eggs hatch.

While treating her hair remove everything! Bedding, combs, stuffed animals, and throw them in a very high heat drier or stuff them into a sealed plastic bag for a few days. Treat your carpet, furniture, car seats, EVERYTHING!.

Good Luck!

Amanda - posted on 01/27/2011

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Do not cut your hair off, it doesnt matter what lenght your hair is, it will not get rid of lice. This is why BOYS get lice too!



Just buy the special shampoo (I have tried all those "Safe at home" things they do not work), do your treatment, pick out eggs by hand, and treat again in a week. Then check heads once a week. Wash all bedding, and put all soft toys away from anyone for 2 days. Couchs and beds can be sprayed down with special spray.



*added funny note*



I had to treat my boy the other day, because of behaviour issues, I really detest using the chemicals on him. So we shave his head bald and I pick off anything I see. While I am picking he says all sweetly to me...



Aww you are picking me like a momma monkey! HAHAHA

Tyrae - posted on 01/26/2011

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The last time I had head lice (grade 12, a child I was babysitting had them and gave them to me) I could NOT get rid of them, I literally tried everything, including putting some crap (not literally) in my hair overnight with a bag on my head, it didn't work. My last resort was going and chopping pretty much all of my hair off, I went from having hair down to my butt to having it in a pixie cut, it got rid of them all, because my head was no longer warm enough for them to survive. You may have to do that...

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Joanna - "Definately not! Head lice die if they leave the head. The only way head lice can get water and food is by sucking blood from the scalp. A head louse not on the head is a head louse in a desperate situation! Head lice will dehydrate when off the head. The rate at which this occurs depends on the amount of water vapour in the air. In an air-conditioned room, head lice will be severely dehydrated after a few hours. When it is wet and raining, head lice may live for 24 hours."

http://www.jcu.edu.au/school/phtm/PHTM/h...



I might add JCU (James Cook University) in Townsville are one of the world leaders in head lice research and I remember their students coming and going through our hair and treating it when i was in primary school

Tracy - posted on 01/26/2011

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In my experience, and I have ALOT of experience wtih this (school lice lady, had it go through my household a couple of times etc) the ONLY way to ensure you remove all the nits s to pick them off by hand. Grasp the strand of hair above the nit with your thumbnail pressng into the pad of your index finger, and drag it down the hair shaft, thus removing the nit. Keep a plate with a paper towel soaked in vinegar beside you to wipe the nits off your finger so you don't 're-plant' it.

Previous suggestions of using a few drops of tea tree oil directly mixed into the shampoo and conditioner is right on the money. Tea tree oil is harmless to humans but toxic to lice. A good shapoo treatment s from Thursday Plantation, it's not chemically based so that's nice. But no product will be effective if you don't remove the nits by hand. Good luck!

Dora - posted on 01/26/2011

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Anything shampoo and conditioner that has coconut oil in it works wonders. Also after washing her hair, blow dry it and use a flat iron through her hair. The heat is hot enough to kill off the lice and eggs. Just don't get to close to her scalp or ouch. I found this website that you may be interested in, http://searchwarp.com/swa127423.htm
STEPS TO LOUSE-FREE HAIR
1. Buy a jar of extra virgin organic coconut oil.
2. Melt about two dessert spoonfuls of the solidified oil and let it cool a bit. You don't want to burn your scalp.
3. Apply the oil liberally to your scalp.
4. Massage well into your scalp.
5. Make sure that you put the oil on your hands and work it through the length of hair.
6. Wrap the hair in the plastic wrap you use to cover food, or wear a shower cap. If you're sharing a house and you don't want people to see you looking so weird, you can skip that step.

It's best to do this at night so that you can wash your hair next morning. Put an old towel on your pillow so that the oil doesn't stain your pillow cases.

After shampooing your hair, use one of those fine-toothed combs to remove dead lice and any eggs next morning.

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Use top quality extra virgin, and preferably organic, coconut oil. One jar will last for ages. Besides being an effective treatment for head lice, coconut oil has endless other health benefits.

Katherine - posted on 01/26/2011

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My cousin used olive oil to suffocate them, however I'm not sure how that would work on the eggs.......

Amanda - posted on 01/26/2011

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oh I hate nix! I agree that stuff doesnt work. There is some really neat new shampoos and stuff out there now. The last stuff I used was Zap, it worked wonders. It wasnt messy, didnt smell to bad. Results is also good, but leaves your hair VERY greasy, we have to wash the kids hair in dish soap for two days afterwards just to get all the grease out. I hear usa has some other products not yet approved in Canada yet. But I avoid any shampoo thats been out since I was a child, like nix.

Firebird - posted on 01/26/2011

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Believe it or not Amanda, it was actually in an information pamphlet that came in the box of the head lice treatment that my ex MIL bought years ago after she brought head lice into my house. Ironically enough the stuff she bought didn't work worth a damn. I don't recommend using Nix. lol R&C worked wonders after Nix failed for a month. I never read the info in the R&C, maybe I should if I ever have to buy it again. Ugh I'm getting itchy just thinking about having to deal with lice again! *shudders*

Amanda - posted on 01/26/2011

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Follow the treatment instructions exactly. Some lice products are applied to dry hair and others to wet and/or washed hair.

Leave the product on the hair for the exact length of time indicated in the instructions, no more and no less.

Remove the nits. This is a time-consuming task but must be done.

It can take up to 24 hours for lice to die following treatment.

Apply a second application of the lice product 7-10 days after the first treatment to kill any newly hatched lice.



MOST IMPORTANTLY do the SECOND TREATMENT!



Joanna I dont know where you got your "facts" from but they are myths.



Lice live in carpets, beds, clothes, and sofas Fact: lice can only live for 24 hours away from a human host



Therefore anything that cant be put in the washer and dryer put in a plastic bag and leave for 2-3 days. All lice will be dead in those toys, and other stuff. There is a spray for your matress and couchs, I suggest buying it and using it on all beds.



Lice need blood to live not scalp, they need blood to lay eggs, and they prefer human blood, lice will not spread to your pets. Lice only live 3-4 weeks while on a host.

Firebird - posted on 01/26/2011

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Lice can live off the scalp. They don't drink blood, they live off of any tiny little piece of scalp that they can find. Which is why it's important to either properly clean things like hair brushes, hair ties and pillows, or throw them away. One little bug can live for a month or more just off of one hair. Because when a hair falls out, it usually has a bit of skin from the scalp attached to it.

Melanie - posted on 01/26/2011

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The only sure way is to check her head twice a day in really good lighting. Once in the Morning once at night. Sunlight is the best light to check with. You can also use a Mixture of Oil and Vinegar. Put it on her like you would the Shampoo. You can do this daily if you are concerned. Wash and Dry everything she has had contact with if its not washable toss it. When picking for the nitts i use packing tape and either cut out the strand of hait the egg is on or i just pull it out and put it on the tape. then you are not dropping it and possibly letting the eggs hatch in you house again. Hope this helps

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conditioner and lice comb...repeat every few weeks in between doing this spray tea tree oil or conditioner mixed with warm water (leave in conditioner on a budget) every morning lice can't grip on with the conditioner and they hate tea tree

Sammie - posted on 01/26/2011

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It sounds gross, but check her head for scabs. If she is itching and creating sores, lice can lay eggs under the scab and you will never get rid of them. Getting eggs out is an awful process, and time consuming, but it needs to be done. Using the metal pronged combs are much better than the plastic ones, they get all the eggs generally. If you have more than one child, you will need to treat all, and should also treat yourself and hubby. Tea tree oil in the hair also prevents lice from grabbing hold of hair, so spray hair with a water and tea tree mixture each morning. My mum also put tea tree oil in our conditioner when we were little.

Desiree - posted on 01/26/2011

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Thanks Louise, i have done most of the things you mentioned. I think my biggest problem is getting rid of the eggs...once this is done i think i will be ok. What is Headrin and where do i get it?

Louise - posted on 01/26/2011

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Start with throwing away her pillow and boil washing any bedding that can be machine washed. If she has a fabric headboard then spray with anti bacterial spray. Use headrin on her and comb through her hair twice a day. If she has long hair then buy new head bands and srunchies throwing the others away as they could have eggs on them. When your daughter goes to school tie her hair up to limit the chances of cross contamination from other children. Head lice is very common and once you have got rid of the eggs you should always use a good conditioner every time you wash her hair as this helps prevent them coming back as they find it difficult to grip smooth hair. If there are children in her class that go untreated this is going to be a common problem so contact the teacher and ask her to do a lice aware speech and ask the children to all look at their hair when they get home. On the good side lice only like to live in clean hair so it is nothing to be ashamed of!

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