My Grandson has been kidnapped by CPS!!!

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Jean - posted on 07/31/2009

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To Anna K. I am going to disagree with your statement that children are only removed based upon factual information. Whose facts? The CPS workers, the cops, the county attorneys? We saw first hand what "facts" were in the court document to remove my grandchildren from my daugther and our home. The only fact that was correct was that he was injured. No mention was made of the fact that another baby at the day care was experiencing the same symptom. The court order was signed the day AFTER they were removed. It sounds like you may be a CPS worker from the tone of your blog and if so, maybe you are one who hasn't lied under oath on the witness stand and one who hasn't threatened to keep moving the children if the family doesn't jump to their tune. The information that you are providing sounds good on paper, but the reality of the situation is that CPS doesn't follow all of the steps as outlined by your blog. NOT only that, the family has to prove that they didn't do whatever it is they are accused of doing and how do you prove a negative??? Our court system is supposed to be innocent until proven guilty but in the juvenile justice system it is guilty until proven innocent. How this law is constitutional is beyond me. Illegal search and seizure, guilty until proven inncoent, lying on the affidavit to get children removed from the homes, etc and I am sure other families could add to this list. Not only that, who do you think the courts are going to believe, the families or CPS?

Jenny - posted on 08/11/2009

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My friend went through a similar situation and from my own experience i no longer trust cops social workers or judges. They can do what they want and ther is nothing you can do about it. Social workers can snach your kids away for no reason and drag you through all kind of hoops to get to your kids. I didnt beleive this either until my friend went through it, and i have been threatened by them before for absolutly no reason. I called them for help and i got treated as the criminal. I got my dad involved and threatened to get a lawyer for the harrassment and they backed down, but listen people it does happen to good parents so dont think it wont ever happen to you

Anna - posted on 07/29/2009

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CPS does not "kidnap" children, if the child was removed from his parent's care then it was done so due to issues of abuse or neglect. You do not list in your blog the specific allegations. CPS can not keep children from parents just b/c they feel like it. Children are removed based on factual evidence that is presented to a court and then a JUDGE orders CPS to remove the child based on the evidence that has been presented in court. CPS can not remove a child from your care if you do not have a CPS history. If youhave allegations in your name that are were not found to be "proven" neglect then you may have a chance to foster your grandchild. It is more likely that your son requested the child be moved to a foster home as you blogged. You can fill out an application for request of placement in your care, but your son will have to be on board with this and you will have to be completely upfront with CPS with what information you have regarding your son that may endanger the child. CPS role is to protect the child, they will look for family that is available and suitable for foster care prior to foster care with a complete stranger. Your son and girlfriend will have ample time to follow the court ordered specific steps to regain custody, if they do not, then yes CPS will look for a no further efforts finding and finally a TPR. You can check whether or not your state has Grandparent rights and seek out legal counsel, you should at the very least be able to have supervised or even unsupervised visitation with your grandchild. Good Luck.

Kelli - posted on 08/05/2009

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Cynthia, I am prayng for your family. I am also a R.N. and a mother who lost my kids to the state. I think that Anna K would like to believe everything she is saying, but I will tell you from personal experience CPS workers are fallible, they can and at least in my case do bend the truth to suit their own wants and beliefs about what is best for the children involved. In my case, they took my twin daughters at birth. I was dependent on opiate pain medication. I did everything asked of me within th first year of life, and believe me, it was a lot of work. However, they attempted to terminate my parental rights at the one year ajudication hearing. The judge ruled in my favor. I didn't even mention the fact that kinship guardianship was never offered to ANYONE in my family, or my husband's family. My mother in law is a master degree educated guidance counselor with over thirty years experience in the state education system. We fought the state, and the foster parents. It took us three and a half years to get our daughters home. At the final TPR hearing, the judge ruled that she COULD NOT find that DSS and made reasonable efforts to renify our family. Did I mention the fact that our SW had placed another child with the foster parents of our girls who they eventually adopted. Oh yeah, the same SW placed another infant with these foster parents at birth, the childs mother was very young, and was convinced to let the family adopt. The child is not even 9 months old. By the way, at the first permanency planning review meeting for my girls, my SW tried to coherce me into signing over my parental rights to the children. It sickens me, because we had two other older children, their natural siblings. My husband and I are both college educated, we own our own house, we have a large amount of land, we have a supportive family, and spent thousads in attorney's fees, psychiatrist visits, family counseling and psychological evaluations, and it still almost wasn't enough to get our twins home. The only thing that saved our family was that we stuck together, did everything on our family services care plan agreement, and abstained from pain medication. The most important thing that we did was turn it all over to God. When I let it all go, and trusted that God would do what was best for all of our children, everything started to turn around. It was just when I was resolved to let the twins go, be it God's will, they came home. We only received one hour visitations until the girls were nearly two. We took the state to court and were granted more visitation. We only got supervised home visits, when we took the state to court again. The kids were three years old when the slept in their beds in their bedroom. The court ruled in our favor in January, the girls were home in May. I feel that if everyone had worked as hard as we had to do the next right thing, everyone involved would have suffered less pain, especially the children. If anyone doubts my story, it is all a matter of public knowledge at the Polk County Court House in N.C.

Galadriel - posted on 07/29/2009

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I must respond to Anna K ... cps cand and DOES take children without going through the courts. I personally know a young 17 year old girl who had her son taken at 2yo without a judges order. She was bullied by the supposed cps advocate until she signed the papers giving up her parental rights, only to find out a week later that the case was never presented before a judge. By the time she got into court to fight cps for her son, 2 measly months later, they had already rushed an adoption through for a family on the other side of the state and she was told there was nothing she could do. Since she was 17 and in school, no lawyer would help her. Now she is 21 but still does not have her son after almost 5 years of fighting this. The origional complaint? He had cheetos for breakfast one day and someone anonymously called in a nutrition neglect complaint!

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Karen - posted on 11/25/2011

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my grandson was also literately stolen from my daughter and a loving family unit i am at my wits end . social services have placed my grandson with foster parents because my daughter had anger issue and would not cooperate with them please can anyone advise us . they are having a final court hearing in december as to if he will be adopted. we have had no help or advice from the lawyers since he was removed 08/08/11.my daughter is mourning every day and has lost hope,she was one of the very best mums and there was never no worries about his wellbeing it makes no sense please can anyone advise us

Cynthia - posted on 08/14/2009

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Legal update: I have signed the paperwork given to me by CPS and returned it to the County Counsel's Office for the records that they purport to have about me abusing my son back in 1996. They have yet to give me those records. I doubt if anything like this exists. There was an open case with Dept of Children's Services because my son was receiving therapy from the County of LA while at school. It had nothing to do with me being a child abuser. He was also a kid that had to have special services meaning a more restricted structured environment at school, so they provided this also. They worked in conjunction with the school district and I fully cooperated with everything recommended by all of the therapists and school district. So I am waiting for these records. I am having a full psych eval next week. My daughter who is a pediatrician at Children's Hospital of Orange County did look at the pictures of the baby and agrees with me, there is something wrong with his head. This is the baby's aunt. I hadn't told her before because I didnt' want to upset her. So we are waiting. I post just about everyday on my blog: www.kidnappedbycps.blogspot.com

Karen - posted on 08/14/2009

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The discrepancies were unbelievable... at one point, the original investigator told us that she couldn't find anything to go on other than S's word (step daughter) and that she was closing the case. The next week, she told us that she couldn't close it because our county (she was from the next county, but investigating us... never found out why.) "might" want to persue it. A week later we were told that she still couldn't (after 3 weeks) get an answer from our county, but that there was "a person that works with CPS that told her they know me and knew my kids prior to me coming into their lives, and there is definate abusive behavior in the house." 1) We don't know anyone that works with CPS. 2) My husband was a drug addict shortly prior to meeting me. The kids were taken care of, but had very little otherwise as he had only been clean a few years and was still recovering from the lifestyle. Anyone who knew the kids before and after me, tells me what a great job I have done with them. 3) Even if this were true, they can't use it as it's hear say.

They have 30 days to investigate, legally.... at 31 days, our county "took the case" because I called and told them how long it had been and that I was coming home. At that point, it because a "voluntary" case because the new worker flat out told me they had nothing to take to court... but that if I didn't volunteer, it didn't mean they would go away. I not only volunteered, I went above and beyond what was asked of me and still was not allowed in my home. It all but ruined my marriage, as well as my kids' lives.

By the way... all three of the kids have Fetal Drugs Syndrome and Severe Reactive Attacment disorder.

Cynthia - posted on 08/14/2009

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I had no contact with my grandson from July 15, 2009 to July 29, 2009. In the interim is when I believe this injury happened. They made me wait two weeks before I saw him. I believe they did this because he had this injury and they didn't want me to find out. And Karen look what they put you through FOR NO GOOD REASON OTHER THAN THEY CAN!!!!

Karen - posted on 08/13/2009

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"CPS can not keep children from parents just b/c they feel like it."

I have to disagree here... My life is proof that this is not true. About a year ago, my 13yo step daughter got hurt in a soccer game. Her dad and I (both coaches), immediately forfieted the game and the entire team followed us to the ER to get her arm x-rayed. She was fine... no breaks, only bruising. We left the ER several hours later with a sling and a sample bottle of tylenol 3. Two weeks later, CPS and a police officer were at my door telling me I had 15 min. to pack a bag for me and my bio son. I was kicked out of my home for 8 months. A quick timeline...

1st month... I was allowed NO contact with my three bonus kids (the oldest isn't real fond of me, but this killed the younger two who have only known me as mom as bio mom walked out when they were little).

I was strongly "advised" to "admit to what I had done" and it would "all go away quickly". I refused to... I admitted to raising my voice to the kids, sending them to the corner, giving them a tsp of vinegar for talking back, and sometimes popping them in the mouth with the pads of my fingers. When discussing things, the CPS worker asked my husband for names and numbers of friends and family that the children felt comfortable talking to (apparently to see what they had to say about what the kids had told them). When I asked if I could give her any of the same information, I was told, and I quote "I have no interest in speaking to anyone on your behalf. It is NOT MY JOB TO PAINT A GOOD PICTURE OF YOU." (I thought it was her job to paint a correct one, good or bad, but I guess I was wrong)

My younger daughter... 10 months younger... later told me that she never agreed with any of the accusations and never said that I touched any of them. I was told by the original worker that she agreed. I was also told that my son said I "drug him off his bed by his hair"... 1), he had his head shaved and I had photos to prove he had for years. 2) I am 5 ft. tall... he has the top of a 5.5' bunkbed. Do the math!

The next 3 months... I was allowed phone contact and I could attend church with the family IF my husband went. However, my husband is oncall 24/7 and therefore could not guarantee that he could be there so I didn't get to see them there either. They also were not allowed contact with my best friend or her daughter (my daughters best friend) because I was living with her.

The next 2 months... I was allowed around "all I wanted" as long as I was not alone with the kids.

Finally, was allowed around the two younger ones all I wanted... could be at my house anytime... as long as the oldest was not home.

I did counseling, which I had to push for for over 3 months to get. I put my oldest in counseling. I took a parenting class, which I found on my own.

My case was finally closed June 1st of this year because "CPS did not know what else to offer". But, prior to closeing the case, I was threatened with "If we ever get another call of any sort, we will remove the kids immediately without investigation." I now live in fear every day as all of the kids tell me when they are mad "I don't have to do what you say."

By the way... the accusations were 1) I refused her medical treatment for a broken arm. 2) I forced her to play soccer and do excercises on a broken arm. 3) I kick and hit her leaving her black, blue, and bloody. Apparently the first two were discredited when they realized she didn't have a broken arm, and I was able to show them that she had a sling (it was said that I took it from her and refused to allow her to use it, but it was hanging on her bedroom wall when the police officer went in her room). I was grilled about why I didn't get her pain med prescription filled... even though I still had two doses of the sample left because she never wanted it. As for the third allegation, there was no mark anywhere on her.

Yes... CPS does do what they want, with no regard to anyone and they answer to NO ONE.

By the way... I also worked for them as an in home counselor just 5 years ago, in the same town I live in... I quit because of their lack of "good deeds".

Cynthia - posted on 08/13/2009

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God Angela, I am so sorry. But I now know this happens. Today I reviewed the medical records on the night he was taken to the ER because I made a "big deal" over what appeared to me to be something wrong with his head. And in the medical record today it says: "slight bruise R side head". No wonder they wouldn't let me see him for two weeks after they took him out of my care. They are awful people!!!

Angela - posted on 08/12/2009

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Hi , Cynthia, I'm not sure if this will help you but after reading your blogs I felt I needed tosay something. Although I Live in CAnada CPS here is no better then it is in the US, apparently. Seven years ago my own life fell apart when CPS here came into my home and removed my daughter. When it all started there were alligations of abuse, but in the end when that didn't pan out for them they turned the tables on my and used the fact that I myself grew up in and out of foster care most of my life and eventually was hospitalized with depression be fore finally ending up in a group home. With everything that I had gone through I had no family support this lack of supprt and a bad upbringing is what bit me in the back side. After 1 and 1/2 years of fight ing and 3 visits a week with my daughter my daugheter asked me when she came home if CPS would keep taking her away. She was afraid and the whole mess made my daughter depressed and she had to be put on anti depressents at 7 years old, as well as sleeping pills. Just a few months before they took my daughetr CPS forced me to pu her on Ritalin as she suffered from ADHD, I refused to put her on the ritalin and theats when they threayened to take her so of course I gave in. Ultimately the situation began to tear my daughetr apart and she changed from a beautiful, smart, loving, thriving child, to a lost, depressed, angry, frightened little girl. Although, what I am about to say my make me appear as weak and pathetic in the eyes of others, I finally agreed to give my daughter up for adoption. It was and is still the hardest and most painful decision I have ever made and will ever make. The day that my daugheter asked me if CPS would keep taking her away it broke my heart to think that I couldn't tell her that they would leave us alone, I knew that because of my own past with CPS I couldn't promise her that safety. I knew at that moment that the only way that my daughter would have a chance at the kind of life that she deserves, that I never had was for me to give her up. My daughter is now adopted, living in a community about an hour from my home and she has a loving family, she is now 13 and she is doing amazing, its still the hardest thing for me to wake up daily and not have her with me but I also, feel that I helped her by not taking chances with CPS messing up her life by continuosly interupting her life with their BS. What ever you do, contact a lawyer and fight until there is no other roads and avenues for you to tread on. CPS on seems to intervene with good people and families instead of for those who actually need the help. I have another child a 2 year old son and CPS will never enter my life again, they have no legs to stand on, I now have support, love, money and a great education thatnks to my own perseverence,. Fighting CPS takes strong, people like yoour self to show them that they are not always right.Do not let happen to your grand child, what happened to my daughter.

Cynthia - posted on 08/11/2009

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I have been working in the hospital, four 12 hour shifts in the last four days to raise the money for attorney's fees, and I haven't seen this yet, but people are reporting to me that three children have died in CPS's care in this last week. Unbelieveable if it is true, and very scary for me.

Jenny - posted on 08/11/2009

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cps has to much power they prey on parent that they know will jump through their hoops and the ones really abusing their kids who could care less get left alone cause they know they will only make them look bad. CPS doesnt only go for kids in bad situations I know i watch this all the time kids being beaten are ignored while kids being disciplend get taught they dont have to listen to anybody and become uncontrollable if you havent been there you have no idea.

Cynthia - posted on 08/09/2009

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Keep passing along the word to all of your e-mail lists. www.kidnappedbycps.blogspot.com

Alison - posted on 08/09/2009

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hi

i am so sorry for what you and your family are going through! if its any consolation the family courts here in the uk are just as bad and so are social services. stay strong and never give up. xxx

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I too am in a similiar situation. Your story scares me. I am a grandmother with temporary sole legal and physical custody of two of my grandsons. I really would like to chat with you. happy1to2004@yahoo.com

Valree - posted on 08/08/2009

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CPS stands for CHILD PROTECTION SERVICES. If they have your grandson then you better thank God for CPS and encourage your son to change what ever is wrong and put your grandson first. This isn't about you or what you want. It is about what is best for your grandson.

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Hi thre...I read a little bit...and it sounds very frustrating......hopefully I might be able to give you some new doors to open to help you and your family....I am a foster/adoptive mom who has a positive relationship with bio mom of my two daughters.....I know you are concerned about the health of your grandson.....have you contacted CASA? They are advocates for the child..not CPS, not the parents...the child.....so if you have something that shows the child is in danger or health needs to be checked out and is not....then they can try and get somethign done.....I do know that CPS is only to report findings etc..to legal parents and foster parents are not to disucss matters..but then again as a foster parent they don't tell you much either...I can tell in your blogs that your heart is just wrenched....mine felt that way as I read your blog. Get an attorney. Does your son have a social worker? he should have one appointed....keep drilling that person till they give you something....contact the news, have them investigate, contact your local congressman and ask for help, write the newspapers and let them know what is going on..call talk radio, let them know what is going on....if this was my child, my grandchild...I would use every avenue I could to get my child the help he needs....from the little part I read....man, you just want to make sure that every avenue has been checked etc...if he needs and MRI....the caseworker needs and approval from supervisor as well as from legal guardain/parent. (at least from the state that I came from it was that way).....I know that it may be hard...but starting a relationship with the fosterparent mgiht be good too..bu then again if you then the fosterparent may have caused it....then ditch that....unfortunately, there are bad fosterparetns out there that do give foster parents a bad name....just the same as teachers, policeman, etc...Maybe there is someone as your place of employment that can have another contact for reporting abuse etc.....heck, call NBC, CBS, or ABC national news..good luck!

Kelli - posted on 08/07/2009

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Cynthia, you can have your attorney file a petition for more visitation rights, especially if you have been the primary care giver to your grandson. It will be very important for him to maintain a bond to someone within his birth family. I can not imagine what it must be like for you having a child who is fighting against you to do what is right. Keep the faith, it will take a lot of time and money, but it will not last forever.

Cynthia - posted on 08/06/2009

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I absolutely believe Kelli's post and I know the pain that these people can cause a family. I never knew, but I do now. I just got an e-mail from a woman in Oregon who my heart goes out to also with her struggles with her son. We all are and have suffered at the hands of a huge beaurocratic bully agency that does not have to answer to anyone. I am writing a new post on my blog. I have just become so exhausted that some days I just have to do something else, but the torture never goes away. I got to see my grandson for my one hour visit yesterday. How kind of them huh?

Kara - posted on 08/05/2009

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Wow...all I can say is wow. All these stories. It certainly seems that CPS causes grief everywhere they go.



I personally have had to deal with CPS, and I thought they were going to be on my side, but in the end they just dropped the case against the biological father stating they thought he wasn't a danger to the child. Though once I got the case paper work it seemed as though his story constantly changed. And then I got the counselor's report from her time with my 5 year old, and she stated in her report that my son was neglected by his biological father and that the father should have no contact with my son. But I guess CPS thought differently. This counselor has been doing this for 20+ years...think she know's what she's talking about. Now we're fighting with lawyers trying to keep my son safe. It's horrible...all the things that can happen. And it's even worse when the people trying to protect the children are the one's being dumped on.



Cynthia, my heart goes out to you. I truely hope everything works out for you. All I can say is don't give up. Keep praying for the correct thing to happen for the child. That's what I do every night. Good luck and God bless!

Cynthia - posted on 08/03/2009

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I didn't say they questioned my ability to care for the children, they questioned my ability to protect the children from my son. But then they cooked up false allegations of child abuse against me which were totally false. They removed the older child from a wonderful woman's home, she was a teacher that wanted to adopt. They took the baby from me, and I'm not any danger, at all to anyone. I'm a nurse, I preserve life at all costs. I don't have any drug, alcohol or criminal history at all.

Sharon - posted on 08/02/2009

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I don't think everyone here is taking into consideration all the possibilities.



I can tell you now that Child services in a small town is more likely to seize children than Child services in a large city. The small town Child services has to prove they are needed by submitting a certain number of cases each year/quarter. If they don't do this they will not get funds, an increase in funds or they could be eliminated altogether.



The more "long term" care children they have on their "rolls" the more money they get. YAY TIME FOR A RAISE.

Amie - posted on 08/02/2009

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As a foster parent and a primary school teacher I have found that unless there is an immediate obvious danger to the child it takes a lot before a child is removed. I had a child in my class who we (the teachers) felt came from a home of neglect and abuse, we spent weeks documenting "facts" but it was not until this child (with special needs) during show and tell showed the class the bite marks on his legs from his mother that the police actually came to the school to interview him. CPS are responsible for the child and even though you feel you can keep your grandchild safe if anything did happen CPS would be liable. From what you say about your sons history CPS could see this as a real risk. If your grandson was placed in a good foster family and you were given regular visitations would that really be so bad? Especially if it means he can stay with his sister? You did say that you were unsure about your ability to handle the kids at your age. There are some wonderful families who would love to have the chance to care for your Grandson.

Cynthia - posted on 07/31/2009

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Something my aunt in KY wrote to me today holds very true and it appears to be in California and Kentucky. No one has any kind of authority over these people, so they just do what they do, and they rip everybody apart. My aunt said it better than I did on this post. I can tell you, for sure, there was no danger to the child here in my home. If I told my son to stay away, he would. He has a temper, but if I don't want him here, I just tell him to stay away. They have the baby, for no good reason, other than to inflict pain on this family. There is no danger to that baby in my care, whatsoever.

Geri - posted on 07/31/2009

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We fostered a 16 year old boy and were accused of letting him drink alcohol and not giving him medicine when he was sick.Both were not true. We were accused by his mother and CPS came to our home to investigate. They even went to our childrens schools to interview them. It all turned out fine but what a scary time. I can't imagine what you are going through. Hang in there.

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I have not had my children taken away from me but I have had CAS (the crappy canadian version) in my life. It took them 6 years to close my file. All they had on me was that I was young and apparently dumb, they also decided to try and say that both my kids had disabilities which only one did and that is only a walking issue and a memory issue.



They can and will twist your words around. CPS and CAS workers are not all social workers like they make it seem to be, most only have a BA and shouldn't even be in the field.



Record all conversations with them (make sure to read up on all laws concerning your case) Make sure you have a lawyer you completely trust. The more you show them that you are not someone who will take this lying down the better off you are. I had my case closed when I started citing other cases similar to my own and read off very important rules they had to live by.



You need to be able to prove that your grandson has a good bond with you, make sure to have tons of pictures of him with you or all over the house.



Do not show too much emotion when dealing with them but also do not become too passive either.



Create your own plan of care for your grandson and make sure that the court and CPS has a copy. The more prepared you look the better!



If you need more support look up some facebook groups (CAS and CPS) there are many groups on facebook that have lots of resources to help you out or just others to talk to!



Write a timeline of events surrounding your grandsons care, anything and everything you can think of, good and bad.



The biggest thing is to prove to the courts, NOT cps how able you are of taking care of him or in the very minimum of how better off he would be if you were in his life.

Shannon - posted on 07/30/2009

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It is so easy for everybody to keep telling you that they know what can and can't happen and that they have witnessed interactions with CPS and it never happens the way you say it does! How the hell do they know what happens with every CPS case in the world? These are probably the same people who say foster home abuse and neglect never happen. You are under a lot of stress and I would imagine you probably suffer from a bit of sleep deprivation, so how you can be expected to think of every little detail of every little moment that has ever happened to you and your family for your entire life? Anyone who criticizes you for not disclosing every little thing has obviously never been in a situation involving this much stress. I totally agree that you should speak to an attorney, and I think you should take some time to de-stress by taking a long bath with some soothing music. It may seem like you are being selfish by taking a moment for yourself, but it will give you some time to clear your head. That is exactly what you need to do! When you are calmed down a bit more, sit down and start writing. Write down everything that has the possibility of being relevant to the case. I do not suggest that you get an extreme attitude with the CPS workers (they are not all heartless), but you should remain firm with your insistence that you believe you CAN provide the best home situation for your grandson. If you have any pics of you and your grandchild, take them with you everywhere, especially to your attorney. I wish you all the luck in the world, and I am praying for the little one.

Cynthia - posted on 07/30/2009

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I will respond to the last two reponses on this page. I am not hiding anything from CPS. I have been open and honest, as I have always been. They are not consistent. My son has a horrible past, but he was doing very well when they took the baby away from the two of them. He has a job, he married the mother of the baby, and they had gotten into their own place (although with roomates). I'm not lying on the blog, I just don't know how much detail I should give. I have an appointment with an attorney on Monday and I will do whatever kind of motion I need to do. I found out from my son that the reason he told CPS that he wanted to remove the baby from my home is, that in his mind, if the baby and the sister are together, then they would be adopted out together if they are not reunified with him and his wife. He wants them to be together. I had the baby and the big sister was in a wonderful foster home with a woman that wanted to adopt her. I didn't feel at that point that I could handle two kids because I am 50 years old and all my kids are grown adults. I have rethought it, just got an offer on a house that I own in another State so that I can pay off all bills and pay for the attorney, and try to stay home with the kids until my son and his wife are ready to take the kids back. They do not have drug or alcohol problems. They are doing the best they can with everything that has happened. However, it may take time, counseling and medication for them to be reunified with their children. The child abuse allegations, have now been denied by CPS against me. It was under a State Bill called AB3632 here in CA that my son was given services when he was in school, under that program he had something called a wrap around which the County provided for him and that is what showed up on their records. They call it a hit, which is so unfair to me. I did everything I could for my son during that time, and sought out every resource available and that is what showed up on their records. They are now saying that it is nothing negative about me. I still think they have alterior motives and the way they removed the baby from my home was so unfair and very hurtful to me.

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I am sorry to hear all that is going on. But I will say I am concerned because I have read your blog and to me it seems as if you are not saying what is really going on, You say that CPS feels you are hiding info well if you talk to them the way you write your blog then I would get the same feeling. If your son has problems and would be a danger to the child he should not be anywhere near that child and if CPS feels the child would be better off away from the whole situation I wonder how bad things really are. As far as judge not being involved I dont buy that, I have been a wittness to a case for CPS and I know how much the judge was and had to be involved! It is a long drawn out process to get all the facts. Also I find it odd that there are 3 different years you mention that there is allegations against you but you swear they are false and its someone else or something to do with the school. That seems alittle hard to believe to me.
I hope if you are correct and these are false that you get it straight, but think about that baby and what is best for him. Is it best for him to grow up in this situation? If you have nothing to hide then why in your blog are you asking if you should hide or flat out lie. What are you hiding? I dont mean to be rude, but I am a mother and I know if something were to happen to me or my husband and we could no longer care for our children I would fight with all I had to keep them from the grandparents and they dont have any allegations of Child abuse!

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Cynthia, my advice to you is the following, shut down your blog and get legal counsel, ask to file a motion to intervene on behalf of your grandchild and a motion for visitation. Do not speak with CPS unless your attorney is present, have all contact with CPS through your attorney. If your the allegations were unsubstaniated that is not a good enough reason to not have the child in your care. Once you have legal counsel, your attorney can order a redacted record that CPS holds for review and you will be able to view your son's neglect petitions. I would strongly encourage and open and honest dialogue with CPS regarding your son's ability to care for this child and let them know you will protect this child and not allow him unsupervised access to the child. CPS is going to need to now you are on board with them (as they retain legal custody and are responsible for his care and well being) and will work with them and not against them, if you are to foster your grandchild, so don't burn your bridges.You can even look into a transfer of guardianship, if you can get your son to agree to it. This would allow you to be the custodian, cps would no longer be involved and when and if your son was ready to regain custody of the child, he would need to go through probate court and a home study would need to be conducted to determine if he was suitable to return custody. You could even get a subsidized transfer of guardianship which would allow medical and daycare expenses to be taken care of by the state. Good Luck, I hope everything works out for you.

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Response to Anna K. There was no GOOD reason to take the child from my care. I am an RN and care for pediatric patients. My son didn't like the rules and wanted me to bend them, and I wouldn't. So CPS concocked all kinds of lies and dug DEEP to find anything about me. They found purported, unsubstantiated, child abuse reports from '94, '95 and '96 which I never even knew about, my name is even wrong in these reports, and I've been told that they could have been against their father, not even me. So they send out this social worker who writes things in her report like, I was burning a pie in the over and that caused emotional distress to the child. What is that all about? So anyway, they take the baby away based on these FALSE allegations. My son, may not think clearly about this kind of thing. He has pretty much been institutionalized by the system. He spent 5 years in prison. It is horrible, but I am the best caregiver for that baby. Read my blog today. I went to visit him and he had what was possibly a bruise on his head, and it wasn't little.

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In looking at these posts, this is UNBELIEVEABLE. I need to find out in Washington DC who heads up these departments. This needs to go national. I am in Los Angeles. I know many of you are out there in every State. Please leave information on my blog so that I can find everyone. I think we need to start a letter writing and calling campaign to our local representatives and then to Washington. Something needs to be done about this. This is like a bad cop gone really bad!!!! Some of these interrogations are worse that the cops.

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i skimmed what you wrote and the fact is CPS threaten to take children away that are in a loving home and the ones that are in a bad enrironment they do nothing about til the kid is dead. the childrens hospital threatened us with removing our daughter from our care because she "wasnt thriving at home". i didnt hear about this from them i heard about it from her pediatrican who works at that hospital and other ones. he told me they were threatening to take her into thier care within 48 hours so he acted quick and told us we had to come into another hospital for an admission to try and get briann to thrive. nothing was acheived in fact she lost weight in hospital went from 8.8 kilos to 8.2, then back up to 8.4 before being discharged. within a few short weeks (she left hospital a month ago) she is now at 9.8 kilos. big difference. i work hard to feed her. sometimes the system is very screwed up and i can tell you, the hospital visit made her miserable for a week for nothing they woke her up over night being loud and slamming doors and during the day they came into do laundry and clean the floor when she'd finally got to sleep.

Anna - posted on 07/29/2009

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A motion for a TPR is drawn up by an attorney or AAG, it is done in court, before a Judge. You can't just sign away your parental rights with a paper that CPS presents to you, CPS workers are social workers, not attorneys, nor police. A TRP is a legal action. There is also no such thing as "nutritional neglect", there is medical, emotional, physical, psychological, educational neglect, etc. I don't think your friend was being honest with you.

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CPS is insane sometimes. I know a woman who is handicapped and was accused fo flinging her child through the air by a leg to break it. UM since she couldn't even lift 10lbs from the floor how in gods name was she supposed to lift a 20lb child up and fling it around? She was at her parents house with both of them present with her sister outside and no one heard anything or saw her get upset.



CPS asked her about her sex life, specific questions like "what position do you like? did she engage in rough sex? multiple partners, did she do drugs, etc etc etc."



unreal. I told her to put a taperecorder on the counter - kind of out of sight and she did it. They dropped the case.

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Try getting a hold of someone on the Fox news station...hell you could even try calling in during one of their many shows that accept callers...most of these shows are political but any sort of media coverage for your cause would be good right now. Your totally right, the government doe not have the funding right now to take a child from his perfectly capable grandmother! This is absolutely ridiculous and to me smells a little bit like a dirty little scandal on CPS's part!

Louise - posted on 07/29/2009

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You are in my prayers! Keep fighting, your grandson is certainly in need of a loving person like yourself to raise him. Louise

Lakesha - posted on 07/29/2009

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I don't have any experiences with CPS myself but I can imagine what I would be feeling if thye were to take my children. I pray to God that all works out for you and your family. Keeeeeep the faith. You can do all things through Christ who strengthens you. I am so sorry that your Grandson has to go through this so early in life. Continue to fight for him, when he is older he will appreciate you just that much more. Many Blessings!

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I'm sorry you are going through this. I don't have much faith in the CPS system after watching what happened to my nephew while in it. I could go on an on about what happened in that situation, but it wouldn't change anything. All you can do is advocate to the best of your ability for your grandson. Please don't ever stop!

Cynthia - posted on 07/29/2009

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You see my son is part of the problem. He is a convicted felon with a very bad history. Some people at CPS seem to have this information and some don't. He thinks I am trying to take custody of the child, which I am not. I am 50 years old and don't even know if I will live to see the child become an adult. He has had a long mental history and has told CPS he doesn't want the child placed with me because he would go against the CPS orders and when I would tell him that he couldn't do that because I was affraid of losing the child, he told the social worker that I was interferring and that he wanted the child placed in foster care. And if anyone with any kind of a brain ever puts together what his history is, they will never return the child to him without major pysch evals to see if he is capable caring for a child. He burned his father's house to the ground, his brother was burned in the fire. That's how bad it is.

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my heart goes out to you cynthia. I think your an amazingly strong woman. keep fighting

Jen - posted on 07/28/2009

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If your grandson was removed from your son or daughter you should be able to apply to be a restricted fosterparent to have your grandson live with you full time, as long as no crim history or police contact regarding violence, drinking, offenses ect. Then you can care for him ect.. If you are from Canada and especially BC, a removal would occur due to reasons and grandparents may only be hearing the family story and not all the information from police ect. Take care. Mom and social worker.

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my prayers are with you i could never imagine my grandkids being taken from me god bless you and know i am praying for the right to come your way

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The courts are not held acountable for the decisions they make and that is WRONG.
It is also wrong for someone to give an anonymous report - why does that work in child/family court but not civil/criminal court - I though we had the right to face our accuser? The family courts here in albuquerque are just as bad as yours - I'm so sorry you and your grandchild are going through this.

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I am a foster parent in Australia. I don't understand why your son or yourself have not had contact with care and protection. I have found in my experience it is about restoration with birth families. If that means attending parenting courses, rehab programs etc. Personal referrees are pretty important also so I am supprised none of these have been contacted. A child as young as this needs to be bonding with a significant adult as it has been scientifically proven that if a young child does not have this bond it will affect them in bad ways later on. Have you not at least been given visits? Even if they have to be suppervised? This is a good way to prove yourself as reports have to be written after each visit.

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That's a very good idea. I did write to a woman named Gail Zimmerman at CBS News in New York today. She did a segment which I was in in 1998 about stolen identity. Believe it or not, this may be related to that. The allegations are around the same time period. Please see my blog at: www.kidnappedbycps.blogspot.com Thanks everyone. Please pass my blog around. I may ask that every call or write my State and local government representatives at some point.

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