Nationwide address to school kids

Teri - posted on 09/04/2009 ( 294 moms have responded )

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Any opinions of President Obama's nationwide televised address to school children next week?

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Heather - posted on 09/04/2009

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I think that people in America have there heads up there ... If you want to be a good parent you need to be able to talk to your children about anything... I don't see why everyone is up in arms about the Presidents address..he is challening students to work hard, set educational goals for themselves and take responsibility for their learning... What is wrong with any of that..
We as Americans have made our children lazy, dumb, and irresponsible. Our society is a joke. We need to challenge our children, set goals and make them responsible. Why not start in school. I have always stated to my daughter who is 12 that schools is her only responsiblity as a child that is of learning age. She is a straight A stundent and she gets upset when her grades are not A's..How many kids do you know that care about school like that. Not many, I didn't growing up, I did just enough to get by...that is what most of my generation did.. the generation after mine is a joke, sex and drugs are more important to them then continuing there education..We as parents need to step up and really teach our kids that school is important, the most important part of their lives...
We also need to teach them respect for authority, 20 years ago this wouldn't have been an issue, we would have listened to the President. Bush made this such a joke that now no one cares what the President says as long as it is not affecting them. We bitch about everything that is happening in the economy, yet we elected Bush twice...We as America made that choice...Now we are suffering the consiquences...
America has to pull it together and stop being so divided. Other wise no one can help us.

Jacqueline - posted on 09/06/2009

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I had the opportunity to sit in the audience of ASU this past May while President Obama gave the commencment speech to every graduate of ASU my son being one of them. I did not vote for Obama but his speech captivated me and thousands of people that attended that day and for the first time I saw a man that truley cared about the future of our nation. What amazed me is that he personally shook hands with each graduate and embraced the hugs he received with a warm smile. President Obama challenged those students and the people to go out and make a difference in this world we live in. Here is a short version of his address that day. " Acts of sacrifice and decency without regard to what's in it for you - those also create ripple effects - ones that lift up families and communities; that spread opportunity and boost our economy; that reach folks in the forgotten corners of the world who, in committed young people like you, see the true face of America: our strength, our goodness, the enduring power of our ideals. I know starting your careers in troubled times is a challenge. But it is also a privilege. Because it is moments like these that force us to try harder, to dig deeper, to discover gifts we never knew we had - to find the greatness that lies within each of us. So don't ever shy away from that endeavor. Don't ever stop adding to your body of work. I can promise that you will be the better for that continued effort, as will this nation that we all love. Congratulations on your graduation, and Godspeed on the road ahead.



I am a Truancy Case Manager for the school district where my teens attend. I am excited that the President of the Untied States thinks so much about our children and their future that he does take the time to address them about the importance of education and good study habits. Not all kids have parents that give them direction and teach them good habits. In my line of work I see this everyday and it is truley heartbreaking. All I can say is I am proud to be an American where we have a President that takes time out of his busy schedule to encourage our youth.

Amanda - posted on 09/06/2009

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Quoting Laura:

Amanda-Lynn, I am not sure why my response to Heather was so insulting to you. I do not wish to live under socialism. If I did, I would move to another country. My parents instilled values in me that included studying and working hard so that I could get a good job and have a comfortable life. I have done that and am trying to instill those values in my children. I do not believe that there are "benefits" to socialism and do not want things provided to me under the guise that they are "free" =the funding has to come from somewhere. I would prefer a free market system that relies on competition. Back to the point,if the Commander in Chief wants to tell my kids to study then I have no problem with that-as long as that's what he is telling them. There have been early reports that his conversation was going to involve other themes-his plans have changed due to concerns raised by the public. Finally, I am not sure why you feel that I am an uneducated person. I do, in fact, have degrees in Psychology and Biology and an advanced degree in Occupational Therapy. I read conservative and liberal newspapers and websites. I am only looking for healthy and constructive debate with those affected by the issue at hand.



I didnt find your post to Heather insulting to me at all. What I did feel was that you do not understand the concept of socialized government, or what debt is good for a country and what debt isnt good, and clearly by your next post I was right. Socializim does not mean free. Are your police system, fire department, public schools free? Of course not, you pay taxes for those SOCIALIZED programs. Like I said before Usa is much more socialized than people understand, yet many americans fear the very system they already live in. Which to me is dumbfounding.



I never said you are uneducated, I did say that there are many uneducated people out there whom are voting or not voting, which both are very distructive to the government and the country. Therefore education of politics should start in the schools, there is no better place for a child to learn. Lets get real most parents do not teach their children about politics, nor do they even set examples by voting themselves. So I dont see how any harm can come from the President of Usa to address the children, and if he can convince one child to stay in school, maybe another child to become the next President instead of joining a gang, than Obama has done his job!!

Ez - posted on 09/04/2009

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Why does he feel the need to indoctrinate them too....this is the same kind of thing "other countries" do to brainwash their kids. We really have gone down the tubes. Do you ever remember any other president pulling such a stunt. Save your kids


Wow... As an Australian I have a really hard time understanding such violent opposition and PARANOIA =|



'Save your kids' - FROM WHAT?? From encouragement to stay in school?? From an example of hard work and perserverence?? Or is it from the powerful black man?

Give me a break....

Jodi - posted on 09/06/2009

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I am Australian, and my only comment to this whole debate is "oh boy, how paranoid are you guys!!!!". I personally don't see the issue. Kids eventually sort it out themselves. Guess what, I don't vote the way my parents vote all the time, my husband doesn't vote the way his parents vote, and most of my children (oldest is 17, youngest 4) are capable of a nice (albeit simplified) political debate on reasoning, whether they agree with me or not. They listen, they learn, they speak and put forward opinion and to be honest, if they choose to vote differently to me when the time comes, that's ok because they will be educated enough to have their own reasons. So why is it such an issue to you all....are you worried your kids will contribute to voting in a leader you don't agree with one day? Are you concerned they will be involved in political debate? Does it really hurt to allow them some discussion on political issues, even at a young age? As a parent, I talk to my kids about these things (okay, not the 4 year old, but still....), I don't try to sway their views, I try to draw them into discussion (and sometimes play the devil's advocate). I am sure I DO actually have influence on their views, how could I not? But why not encourage our children to listen, learn, giving them a greater capacity to form their own independent decisions as they get older?



So should I hide my newspapers and turn off the TV?? Or should I allow my children access to them and then give them the ability to watch, read, learn, debate, and make their own informed decisions about these things? And informed decisions are NOT always the same decision we, as parents, would make. But if we teach them to understand, and interpret, they will figure out what is best for themselves.



So what is the issue with a President addressing school children. It is highly unlikely to be political because he'd lose their attention in 2 seconds flat!!! Sorry, I don't get it. But then, I am not American......

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Melinda Mendy - posted on 09/10/2009

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Do you realize that unless your children are in a private school, The Government and state run our school systems. They decide what is taught to your children and how your children are taught. The Government and States fund your schools. The President is already apart of your schools. Who do you think implemented the No child Left Behind. Which in my opionion did nothing but hinder my son. Allowed our children to be lazy and not accountable for their actions. I have had teachers tell me that since the no child left behind they have had more high school dropouts than ever before. How can anyone make a difference without the tools and the education to do so. Dont form an opionion without learning everything you can first. Know why you are Democrat or Republican, etc. not just cause someone else is or says so. Dont you have to learn from your mistakes, learn from our history so that it doesnt repeat itself. My kids will watch it and if we or they dont agree then we discuss it and form an educated opinion. My 13 yr old is a Republican and I a Democrat- we debate both sides, she is a Republican based on her beliefs and education not because of my or others influence. Knowledge is Power

Bev - posted on 09/10/2009

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Quoting kayla:



Quoting Bev:




Quoting kayla:

And that's exactly why my children will not be watching his address.I don't want my kids looking up to this person.I have children that have educational goals and morals.Morals that this President doesn't believe in.I think that you are the one with your head up your .....!








what a "moral" thing to say!  since when does the right have morality locked up.  you all preach your love for God, but you don't practice it.  just read your posts....very christian-like!!!  you all act as if you know the President PERSONALLY and came comment on his morals.  at least he didn't send thousands of our military to die for no weapons.  there were NO terrorists in iraq - but NOW there are and afghanistan is getting worse.  so quit your preaching about God - God loves ALL HIS PEOPLE....good or bad.....




 Who was preaching about God? I don't want to know Obama personally! We know his morals because he makes speeches about what he believes in. It's ok to murder children, but not to fight for our countries freedom?


most of the posts from the anti-Obama people make some reference to God and how he is their only leader.  that's all i have to say to you...there's no talking to people like you madame.  you obviously didn't read or get the meaning of my response.  again, you DON'T know Obama's morals.  so quick to judge........


 





 

Tracy - posted on 09/10/2009

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Wow what a topic...I am from Australia so don't really have all informed facts but from reading everyones responses it is mind blowing. I see it as Whether you like Obama or not he IS your LEADER. one day your children will go to work and they aren't necessarily going to agree with their boss but in a way have agreed to serve him and the company by accepting employment. I think it comes back to us as parents and whether you watchn it with your kids or they see it without you, it will be an opportunity to talk to them at whatever age they are at. Your family values will more than likey be stronger influence than one speech brought to them by the President. What speeches don't have politics in them by politicans. ANYTHING to encourage our children to strive for a better life.



This may have no effect on your child but may just reach the one that doesn't have the love support and network around them to try for a better life.



our country closely follows yours and whilst I don't vote fro our Prime MInister he IS the LEader of OUR country and IS who the people elected to LEAD our COUNTRY and that in itself DESERVES RESPECT.

Kayla - posted on 09/10/2009

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Quoting Bev:



Quoting kayla:

And that's exactly why my children will not be watching his address.I don't want my kids looking up to this person.I have children that have educational goals and morals.Morals that this President doesn't believe in.I think that you are the one with your head up your .....!






what a "moral" thing to say!  since when does the right have morality locked up.  you all preach your love for God, but you don't practice it.  just read your posts....very christian-like!!!  you all act as if you know the President PERSONALLY and came comment on his morals.  at least he didn't send thousands of our military to die for no weapons.  there were NO terrorists in iraq - but NOW there are and afghanistan is getting worse.  so quit your preaching about God - God loves ALL HIS PEOPLE....good or bad.....



 Who was preaching about God? I don't want to know Obama personally! We know his morals because he makes speeches about what he believes in. It's ok to murder children, but not to fight for our countries freedom?


 

Crystal - posted on 09/10/2009

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If I wanted someone else to teach my kids outside of school, I would hire someone. If was that important and necessary then it would be on regular tv for us to view as a family and a nation. If you can not say grace or Merry Christmas because it might offend someone then the President needs to stick to the oval office and let us teach our kids. For the statement down below I have not made my kids lazy and I think I speak for alot of parents that is your way of raising not mine.

Kathryn - posted on 09/10/2009

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And we wonder why we are having problems with our society and children. Why would anyone have assumed that President Obama was going to say anything harmful to our children?? Look at what he has done for his own children, before, during and after the campaign. really!

Christina - posted on 09/10/2009

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They didn't play it in my daughters school. My husband and I encourage her to stay in school and study hard so she didn't miss out on anything.

Yenesis - posted on 09/10/2009

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I believe that we must be open and respect everyone's opinions, after all, that is why we are in this wonderful country. My husband and I chose for our son not to be included in the viewing of this speech because we were skeptical as to the sincerity of the address and that there would be no political propaganda. His parochial school gave parents the options and we opted out. I personally sat with him and explained our concerns but that we, together as a family, would watch it afterwards online and have open discussions.

I found this to be fair to him so that he did not feel left out and gave us the peace that we needed. Only when you get thrown out of your country like my parents did from Cuba and lost family and all personal belongings and even country, do you learn to be cautious when "change" evolves too quickly! Nothing can ever be perfect and I think this Country has done pretty well since it was created.

Karen - posted on 09/10/2009

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Wow, my first time here and I am very dissappointed in the attacks I am seeing y'all make on each other. Maybe you could try to word things a little better/softer and imagine that person actually sitting next to you. I believe I will unsubscribe.

Kathy - posted on 09/10/2009

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I read the speech... I'm Canadian not American, and personally, I don't see why every child should not hear what he has to say. No where in that speech does it say to "Serve Obama" it talks about education, encourages kids to listen to their teachers, parents and grandparents when it comes to education. Nothing that I wouldn't let my kids hear. I realize mine isn't born yet, but its good values. I know that alot of parents feel its up to them to encourage their child, to be their "cheerleader" as I saw above, but as someone that still remembers what it was like to be in high school particularly I know that sometimes what parents say can go in one ear an out the other. Kids need all the encouragement they can get, from every angle. Really the only thing that he says about the country is about making it a better place and doing your part... and really if the country isn't a good place to live, why would you want to live there?? I know alot of Christians only want to support god, but if the country you live in falls to pieces then what?? Maybe thats why I'm proud to be Canadian, because most people here aren't that closed minded. I'm not saying we have the best Prime Minister, or Premiers but they are the leaders of the country, and its the people in the country that make it good and strong!!

Sarah - posted on 09/10/2009

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Quoting Kitty:

I also agree that color has nothing to do with anything but I'm also scared about out Health Care issue... anyone really know what all that means? I forget the website that breaks it down and expains it but I don't want to become a socialist nation. We pay a lot of money to have to good health care that we do and if the new health care plans happens that means that if my kids are serisously sick and needs to go to the doctor I'm not only going to have to pay a lot more money to keep my health care but the doc visits are going to be worse than ever. If someone gets a runny nose and they decide to go to the doctor then no problem... but my really sick child will have to wait. I don't want to be a socialist nation but I see some of you obvouisly wouldn't mind


Ok, so i'm from England.....and i just had to say that not only do i know NO-ONE that would go to the doctor for a 'runny nose' but that childrens appointments are actually pushed forward so they are seen the same day you call. I've NEVER had to wait for an appointment for my kids to see the doctor....EVER. :)

Linda - posted on 09/10/2009

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Our school district will each review the speech and if possible, if it is appropriate, they will then show it to the students. I think it is good to keep a type of monitoring over anything a student hears and sees. This is his first type speech to the children so it will be a valid test of his attitude.

Bev - posted on 09/10/2009

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Quoting kayla:

And that's exactly why my children will not be watching his address.I don't want my kids looking up to this person.I have children that have educational goals and morals.Morals that this President doesn't believe in.I think that you are the one with your head up your .....!



what a "moral" thing to say!  since when does the right have morality locked up.  you all preach your love for God, but you don't practice it.  just read your posts....very christian-like!!!  you all act as if you know the President PERSONALLY and came comment on his morals.  at least he didn't send thousands of our military to die for no weapons.  there were NO terrorists in iraq - but NOW there are and afghanistan is getting worse.  so quit your preaching about God - God loves ALL HIS PEOPLE....good or bad.....

Holly - posted on 09/10/2009

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I believe that we all have to take a class called citizenship in school. What do we learn in this class? To listen and show respect to the people in charge, to have a voice in our lives and country, to do the right thing and to KNOW what we as American's stand for. We as parents need to instill these attributes in our children. Freaking out about the speech is not teaching our children respect or giving them the option to form their own opinions! If McCain had been elected and made this address I would feel the same way. I WANT my children to see this address and then I want to sit down and talk to them about what they saw. If then I don’t like it I will explain to them why I don’t like it. I can’t shield my children from the world I can only teach them to see it with discerning eyes. Whether I like him or not, Obama is our president and my children WILL show him respect and WILL listen to what he says because I am raising them to be good citizens who will have ALL the facts before they make their decisions.


As being Americans we have that right to NOT listen to the speech.  Respect authority okay but agree with it...nope don't have to...

Holly - posted on 09/10/2009

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Quoting Teresa:

When color is no longer a issue!!!


It doens't have to do with color...I am so tired of people using this as an issue....Has to do with him being controlling on everything.....and to be honest he is white and black and if you want to get right down to it...since his mom is from KS....he most likely have a little Indian, german etc in him...so as you can see just because he is darker doesn't mean anything...

Holly - posted on 09/10/2009

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Now that the address has been aired, this is a moot point, but I'm going to say it anyway. My concern is that he was addressing all school children from k-12 during the school day. I have high schoolers on block schedules - this means that we cover a year's worth of material in a semester. Our schedules are tight as it is and there is no reason to have him interrupt my kids' day. We can watch it at night if it's that imperative. Needless to say, neither of my children's teachers turned it on. They were too busy teaching Science and English. I was absolutely fine with that.


AMEN>>>> that is how I feel...and if it was so important to interupt class them maybe we as parent should have been able to seen it in the evening with our children.  Did he forget the child left behind rule?

Holly - posted on 09/10/2009

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I'm concerned by it. For those of you that don't what the big deal is, there is a pledge to serve Obama that a lot of actors and actresses did. Here is the you tub link

Most of the message is good about doing stuff for your community and the planet. But then they pledge to serve Obama. I don't think it's right for people to pledge to serve him directly. They should pledge to serve the U.S. So most likely the televised address is more of the same. I am concerned that he will try to get people to follow him. Sometimes I think he doesn't realize how involved American parents are. I truly believe he thinks most of us don't care for our children and are not involved enough.


I totally agree with what you say...I think that is what makes me MAD is that he wants us to pledge to serve him....NOT our country....Obama is all about looks and not what is helping our country.  I serve only ONE person and that is GOD NOT Obama... Plus I don't care who it is be it the President or the man off the street I don't need anyone telling me how to raise my children.  When it comes right down to it these people put their pants on the same way I do....

Holly - posted on 09/10/2009

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Quoting Shannon:

I'm concerned by it. For those of you that don't what the big deal is, there is a pledge to serve Obama that a lot of actors and actresses did. Here is the you tub link

Most of the message is good about doing stuff for your community and the planet. But then they pledge to serve Obama. I don't think it's right for people to pledge to serve him directly. They should pledge to serve the U.S. So most likely the televised address is more of the same. I am concerned that he will try to get people to follow him. Sometimes I think he doesn't realize how involved American parents are. I truly believe he thinks most of us don't care for our children and are not involved enough.


I totally agree with what you say...I think that is what makes me MAD is that he wants us to pledge to serve him....NOT our country....Obama is all about looks and not what is helping our country.  I serve only ONE person and that is GOD NOT Obama... Plus I don't care who it is be it the President or the man off the street I don't need anyone telling me how to raise my children.  When it comes right down to it these people put their pants on the same way I do....

Holly - posted on 09/10/2009

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Quoting Shannon:

I'm concerned by it. For those of you that don't what the big deal is, there is a pledge to serve Obama that a lot of actors and actresses did. Here is the you tub link

Most of the message is good about doing stuff for your community and the planet. But then they pledge to serve Obama. I don't think it's right for people to pledge to serve him directly. They should pledge to serve the U.S. So most likely the televised address is more of the same. I am concerned that he will try to get people to follow him. Sometimes I think he doesn't realize how involved American parents are. I truly believe he thinks most of us don't care for our children and are not involved enough.


I totally agree with what you say...I think that is what makes me MAD is that he wants us to pledge to serve him....NOT our country....Obama is all about looks and not what is helping our country.  I serve only ONE person and that is GOD NOT Obama... Plus I don't care who it is be it the President or the man off the street I don't need anyone telling me how to raise my children.  When it comes right down to it these people put their pants on the same way I do....

Kari - posted on 09/10/2009

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His speech that he gave to the children is posted where every one can read it on the white house web page at : http://www.whitehouse.gov/MediaResources...



If you are against doing your best in education and support giving up after you fail then do not read this speech. Otherwise, enjoy, he did a great job, and he said nothing that we as parents should worry about. Educate yourself and read the speech before believing the commentary of others.

Kerrie - posted on 09/10/2009

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NO, we should not pledge to serve America, we should pledge to serve God. Americans did not put Obama , God did. If it wasn't God's will for Obama to be president , he wouldn't be president. There is nothing greater than God.

Sandy - posted on 09/10/2009

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I beg to differ with you I went much of my life without health ins or struggled to pay for what I had, but I am still and will continue to oppose to this so called reform. They need to reform this reform. Have you taken the time to read it? or are you like many in congress and around the states just believing what those that are promoting it are saying? You may want to take the time to read, it then maybe you might have a clearer understanding of why so many Americans, that have read it, are so upset about it.

DeAnna - posted on 09/10/2009

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At the end of the day it is up to US as OUR CHILDRENS PARENTS to decide what WE feel is right for OUR children to watch. Everyone has different opinions and to each their own. Last time I checked any good supportive parent stood besides THEIR child to CHEER & GUIDE them on/through not only LIFE but in EDUCATION & HUMMANITY! Thats what loving parents do...no matter what! We ARE their BIGGEST CHEERLEADERS!

Chantelle - posted on 09/10/2009

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Ya, Bush did. Many a president has talked about education. After all, the president is the leader of our country, our public schools are government run. See a connection? I don't understand what people are afraid of.

LadyBug - posted on 09/10/2009

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Now that the address has been aired, this is a moot point, but I'm going to say it anyway. My concern is that he was addressing all school children from k-12 during the school day. I have high schoolers on block schedules - this means that we cover a year's worth of material in a semester. Our schedules are tight as it is and there is no reason to have him interrupt my kids' day. We can watch it at night if it's that imperative. Needless to say, neither of my children's teachers turned it on. They were too busy teaching Science and English. I was absolutely fine with that.

Tina - posted on 09/09/2009

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I believe that we all have to take a class called citizenship in school. What do we learn in this class? To listen and show respect to the people in charge, to have a voice in our lives and country, to do the right thing and to KNOW what we as American's stand for. We as parents need to instill these attributes in our children. Freaking out about the speech is not teaching our children respect or giving them the option to form their own opinions! If McCain had been elected and made this address I would feel the same way. I WANT my children to see this address and then I want to sit down and talk to them about what they saw. If then I don’t like it I will explain to them why I don’t like it. I can’t shield my children from the world I can only teach them to see it with discerning eyes. Whether I like him or not, Obama is our president and my children WILL show him respect and WILL listen to what he says because I am raising them to be good citizens who will have ALL the facts before they make their decisions.

Kayla - posted on 09/09/2009

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And that's exactly why my children will not be watching his address.I don't want my kids looking up to this person.I have children that have educational goals and morals.Morals that this President doesn't believe in.I think that you are the one with your head up your .....!

Kayla - posted on 09/09/2009

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Quoting Heather:

I think that people in America have there heads up there ... If you want to be a good parent you need to be able to talk to your children about anything... I don't see why everyone is up in arms about the Presidents address..he is challening students to work hard, set educational goals for themselves and take responsibility for their learning... What is wrong with any of that..
We as Americans have made our children lazy, dumb, and irresponsible. Our society is a joke. We need to challenge our children, set goals and make them responsible. Why not start in school. I have always stated to my daughter who is 12 that schools is her only responsiblity as a child that is of learning age. She is a straight A stundent and she gets upset when her grades are not A's..How many kids do you know that care about school like that. Not many, I didn't growing up, I did just enough to get by...that is what most of my generation did.. the generation after mine is a joke, sex and drugs are more important to them then continuing there education..We as parents need to step up and really teach our kids that school is important, the most important part of their lives...
We also need to teach them respect for authority, 20 years ago this wouldn't have been an issue, we would have listened to the President. Bush made this such a joke that now no one cares what the President says as long as it is not affecting them. We bitch about everything that is happening in the economy, yet we elected Bush twice...We as America made that choice...Now we are suffering the consiquences...
America has to pull it together and stop being so divided. Other wise no one can help us.


 

Ramanthia - posted on 09/09/2009

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HItler? WOW. LOL



Same on him for telling the kids the good of having and education.

Ramanthia - posted on 09/09/2009

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I found the paranois absolutely ridiculous. Previous presidents in history have talked to kids about education, so why is it so bad or considered brainwashing when Obama does it? I found the speech to be uplifting and very encouraging. Politics were not even mentioned and I don't understand why people would not want there kids to be encouraged from all around to be responsible, stay in school and get an education. Life is hard enough with an education and even harder without. I also found all the paranoia amusing.



How DARE the president say such evil things. Oh the horror. LOL



When does common sense step in?

User - posted on 09/09/2009

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Quoting Loureen:

sorry Marie for my incorrect referencing , i get you and agree .
But the rest of my post remains my word .
Thanks for the clarification .


Not a problem at all.   With all the postings going on it is easy to understand how it could happen :-)

Charlie - posted on 09/09/2009

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sorry Marie for my incorrect referencing , i get you and agree .

But the rest of my post remains my word .

Thanks for the clarification .

User - posted on 09/09/2009

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Quoting Marie:



Quoting Loureen:

WOW the paranoia in American politics is INSANE and comical at the same time , you cannot understand how crazy this all sounds to the rest of the world , yes we have all heard the speech all the way around the world its smart , heart felt and has no political agenda .

" and we wonder the why the country is a shambles " someone earlier posted in reference to peoples passionate defence of Education , AH no , LOL, it's in a shambles because of a LACK of education !!!!!!!!!!!!!

The whole point of Obama's speech , Stay in school , dream big !!!
OH THE HUMANITY WHO WOULD TALK SUCH FILTH .

*sigh* Honestly ................Stupidity abounds .





And we wonder why our country is in shambles? Read the messages here and it is plain to see. Instead of having respect for each other it is too easy to bash each other. I pray my own children have more sense then to do that to others as some of you have done to each other here on this post!  


Loureen,   I have no problem you quoting what I wrote....... But If you re-read my post you will see what I said was in reference to the LACK of RESPECT that people were showing each other on the boards. 


Thanks anyway











 

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Quoting Marie:

Once again most everyone here is proving my point. So what if people kept their own children out of school because they didn't want them to hear what was being said.... So what if people sent their own children to school because they wanted them to hear what was being said....
People are jumping on one another because of their own choices of what they feel is best for their own children. Get a grip people! We are destroying each other with words and put downs when there is no need for it. Alot of people here seem to forget a very important part of being who we are....and that is to have the freedom to decide and act on what we feel is best for our own children. NO ONE here has any right to bash each other for their point of view. What happened to RESPECT of each others choices?? It doesn't matter if you don't like what so and so has to say...but at least have respect for what is being said and be realistic and open-minded without being aggressive and attacking the person.

And we wonder why our country is in shambles? Read the messages here and it is plain to see. Instead of having respect for each other it is too easy to bash each other. I pray my own children have more sense then to do that to others as some of you have done to each other here on this post!






Actually Marie, I am not American.  I find the paranoid attitude totally hilarious.  I am gobsmacked at the way you have all made it such a big deal.  To be honest, I was not jumping on anyone for keeping their kids out of school.  But the comment "god only knows what would have happened"????  That cracked me up.





 Jodi,



  Thanks for your reply.  I can understand exactly where you are coming from with the Paranoid attitude.  I myself was stunned at some things that were posted.   What really got under my skin wasn't so much the topic of discussion... it was some words that were used to describe other mom's in the messages.  That is why I kept my postings on the Respect aspect instead of the political aspect.



  Hope you are having a great day!!



 

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OMG i am in Hysterics !!!!

It is THAT ridiculous , seriously someone call the men with white coats because some of you have clearly been sent insane with pollitical hysteria !!!



But thanks for the morning entertainment !

Charlie - posted on 09/09/2009

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OMG i am in Hysterics !!!!

It is THAT ridiculous , seriously someone call the men with white coats because some of you have clearly been sent insane with pollitical hysteria !!!



But thanks for the morning entertainment !

Jodi - posted on 09/09/2009

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Quoting Erica:

someone posted why wasn't there an uprising when George Bush adressed school kids?? easy he was against abortion, not trying to make it easier and more affordable



Erica, here is your exact post.  You ARE saying that abortion has everything to do with why people have an issue with Obama addressing school kids.  Or am I just reading it wrong?

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Quoting Hansy:



Quoting Kate:




Quoting Hansy:

Forgot to take your pills??







Ooh! I didn't! I'm happily medicated. :)








I still want to know where Erica got the idea that Obama is trying to get people to kill our kids?









I am sorry for the confusion, the question was for Erica and I was referring to her crazy pills.





Oh, I know. :) I'm just saying that today I am not currently crazy. I take my crazy pills every day. ;D

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I'm still trying to fathom the relationship between the fact that Obama supposedly kills children, and what that has to do with a very inspirational speech to the children of the nation about their education. After all, the exercises afterwards were not mandatory, so anyone homeschooling could choose not to do them, so in that case, why not let them watch the speech?



I worry about narrow-mindedness because it can be a real detriment to your own, and your children's education. To absorb, learn, and be able to make good choices for ourselves throughout life, we need to be more open minded to taking in all the information we can, educate ourselves, and only THEN are we armed to make the best choices we can. As parents it is also our job to provide these opportunities for them so they can receive a balanced, not biased, view of the world. There are many things my children hear that I don't necessarily agree with, and we discuss those things openly, but I have no problems with them forming their own opinion, even if it is different to mine, as long as they can provide good, balanced reasons for their viewpoint. They can only be able to do this by hearing all sides of the issue, not just the side I agree with :)

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I so agree. I've read alot of these comments and look at the way they are written. Bad grammer and poor spelling. Maybe if they had paid attention in school we wouldnt be behind so many of the other countries. This generation doesn't have the gumption to make something of themselves and they learned it from their parents. The people who are complaining about Obama trying to encourage their children to get ahead.

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Quoting Jenn:



Quoting Traci:




Quoting Jenn:





Quoting Traci:

.....and once again people miss what the original problem was. Let me repeat....THE PROBLEM DID NOT LIE IN THE SPEECH ITSELF. The problem lied in the material/curriculum that went along with it. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the prez sending a back to school pep talk to kids, no matter what letter he happens to have next to his name. I'm very conservative and I had no problem with the speech at all, I think it's a good thing and nice to do.

Among the activities the government initially suggested for prekindergarten to sixth-grade students: that they "write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the president." Another task recommended for students immediately after listening to the speech: to engage in a discussion about what "the president wants us to do." That is the problem conservatives such as myself had with the whole thing. It isn't the fact that he wanted to speak to children.

It seems as if many are losing the point here. People who raised concerns about this were not against the speech in and of itself, it was the material that was to follow. And since the WH decided to change the curriculum, it reinforces the fact that it was wrong in the first place and conservative concerns were more than legit. I'm sure it is more fun to call conservatives crazy than to recognize their well founded concerns though. Since the WH changed the material, you can chalk that up as a win :)









No....all it enforces was that he tried to keep everyone happy by listening to people's concerns and adjusting the event to appease them.  I disagree.  If there was nothing wrong with their curriculum they would have kept it.  They saw the problem after it was pointed out to them.




You call it "seeing the problem", I call it "appeasement".





What IS wrong with asking children what they think they can do to help the President?  I'd really like to hear that, honestly.  Is it that 'this one' shouldn't be helped to understand what the public - children included- think needs to be addressed in this country? What's wrong with having children feel as if they too have a say in what goes on in their country, in their future?  What if a six year old decided that to "help the President" they wanted to become a police officer and maintain the laws of the country.  Is that SO bad?  I don't think we should ask kids to help their president...it's not about him,   Helping the country and helping the president are two very different things.  Getting kids involved in what is going on in the country is fine.  Kids don't have to be asked to SERVE the president in order to be involved in what goes on in our nation though. 






He's speaking to children.  I see it as the exact same thing as asking the "what can you do to help your mommy, what can you do to help your teacher, what can you do to help people in your community"  It's wording that a child can understand.  No more, no less. 










  What is wrong with children learning that they are the future, and responsible  for their own future?  Isn't that what children SHOULD be learning?   Something besides how to shoot people on X-Box, or wondering if their DS batteries are going to make it through the family road trip?  There is nothing wrong wth kids learning they are the future....in fact, nowhere in my post did I ever say or imply that. 






I never said you implied that, I just asked you a question or 3. :)










I think that 'well-founded' concerns are wonderful - but to cause a general 'panic' over a speech that had NO basis in political agenda, simply because people ASSUMED they knew  what the content of the 'lesson' was (and applied their own fears, and  misinformation to the event before even LOOKING at the speech / lesson in it's entirety) , is a travesty.   I can understand that.  I don't think it was a panic that was created though.  I think it was nothing more than people showing concern for something they feel strongly about.  This is why the federal gov't doesn't belong in the classroom...to avoid a situation such as that.  If he was going to film a short speech to welcome kids back to school, nothing would have been made of the whole thing.  The problem came when the Wh and the DOE decided to provide curriculum for teachers.  They have no business doing that and many Americans agree.  






People were 'feeling strongly' about a speech that they hadn't even read.  Look at the comments here that were made BEFORE the content of the speech was even released.  I'd call that a 'panic', but that's just my personal opinion of what happened on one message board.  (Although, there were quite a few other communities that had threads related to this topic, and many of them were, well, let's just say 'much less educated' on the subject. I'm even reading comments on this thread that have grammatical errors, misspellings, punctuation issues, and a lot of those are from people that "will speak to their own children about education - YIKES!) (..and no, I do NOT mean you or your comments when I say that, at all,  Traci.)






...and my point is that if they have no 'business' suggesting - and it WAS suggested - not REQUIRED- curriclulm, then they also shouldn't be expected to further a child's education.  If it's to be 'left up to the parents' then I think those parents should be willing to provide ON THEIR OWN for a child's education.  Keep goverment out of education - until I need them to help me pay for my child's college education.......






That's pretty hypocritical, isn't it?









Well, since I disagree with just about all of what you wrote, I'll leave it at that.



 



Oh!  and to say Keep goverment out of education - until I need them to help me pay for my child's college education.......



That's pretty hypocritical, isn't it?



I would say that the gov't is part of the PROBLEM in funding higher education.  Colleges aren't going to close up shop when people can't afford to send their kids to school.  They'll lower prices.  Basic economics.  Funny how the more gov't helps to pay tuition through grants, loans, etc, the more costly universities become....we are being taken for a ride.



 



 









 





 

Traci - posted on 09/09/2009

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Quoting Jenn:



Quoting Traci:




Quoting Jenn:





Quoting Traci:

.....and once again people miss what the original problem was. Let me repeat....THE PROBLEM DID NOT LIE IN THE SPEECH ITSELF. The problem lied in the material/curriculum that went along with it. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the prez sending a back to school pep talk to kids, no matter what letter he happens to have next to his name. I'm very conservative and I had no problem with the speech at all, I think it's a good thing and nice to do.

Among the activities the government initially suggested for prekindergarten to sixth-grade students: that they "write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the president." Another task recommended for students immediately after listening to the speech: to engage in a discussion about what "the president wants us to do." That is the problem conservatives such as myself had with the whole thing. It isn't the fact that he wanted to speak to children.

It seems as if many are losing the point here. People who raised concerns about this were not against the speech in and of itself, it was the material that was to follow. And since the WH decided to change the curriculum, it reinforces the fact that it was wrong in the first place and conservative concerns were more than legit. I'm sure it is more fun to call conservatives crazy than to recognize their well founded concerns though. Since the WH changed the material, you can chalk that up as a win :)









No....all it enforces was that he tried to keep everyone happy by listening to people's concerns and adjusting the event to appease them.  I disagree.  If there was nothing wrong with their curriculum they would have kept it.  They saw the problem after it was pointed out to them.




You call it "seeing the problem", I call it "appeasement".





What IS wrong with asking children what they think they can do to help the President?  I'd really like to hear that, honestly.  Is it that 'this one' shouldn't be helped to understand what the public - children included- think needs to be addressed in this country? What's wrong with having children feel as if they too have a say in what goes on in their country, in their future?  What if a six year old decided that to "help the President" they wanted to become a police officer and maintain the laws of the country.  Is that SO bad?  I don't think we should ask kids to help their president...it's not about him,   Helping the country and helping the president are two very different things.  Getting kids involved in what is going on in the country is fine.  Kids don't have to be asked to SERVE the president in order to be involved in what goes on in our nation though. 






He's speaking to children.  I see it as the exact same thing as asking the "what can you do to help your mommy, what can you do to help your teacher, what can you do to help people in your community"  It's wording that a child can understand.  No more, no less. 










  What is wrong with children learning that they are the future, and responsible  for their own future?  Isn't that what children SHOULD be learning?   Something besides how to shoot people on X-Box, or wondering if their DS batteries are going to make it through the family road trip?  There is nothing wrong wth kids learning they are the future....in fact, nowhere in my post did I ever say or imply that. 






I never said you implied that, I just asked you a question or 3. :)










I think that 'well-founded' concerns are wonderful - but to cause a general 'panic' over a speech that had NO basis in political agenda, simply because people ASSUMED they knew  what the content of the 'lesson' was (and applied their own fears, and  misinformation to the event before even LOOKING at the speech / lesson in it's entirety) , is a travesty.   I can understand that.  I don't think it was a panic that was created though.  I think it was nothing more than people showing concern for something they feel strongly about.  This is why the federal gov't doesn't belong in the classroom...to avoid a situation such as that.  If he was going to film a short speech to welcome kids back to school, nothing would have been made of the whole thing.  The problem came when the Wh and the DOE decided to provide curriculum for teachers.  They have no business doing that and many Americans agree.  






People were 'feeling strongly' about a speech that they hadn't even read.  Look at the comments here that were made BEFORE the content of the speech was even released.  I'd call that a 'panic', but that's just my personal opinion of what happened on one message board.  (Although, there were quite a few other communities that had threads related to this topic, and many of them were, well, let's just say 'much less educated' on the subject. I'm even reading comments on this thread that have grammatical errors, misspellings, punctuation issues, and a lot of those are from people that "will speak to their own children about education - YIKES!) (..and no, I do NOT mean you or your comments when I say that, at all,  Traci.)






...and my point is that if they have no 'business' suggesting - and it WAS suggested - not REQUIRED- curriclulm, then they also shouldn't be expected to further a child's education.  If it's to be 'left up to the parents' then I think those parents should be willing to provide ON THEIR OWN for a child's education.  Keep goverment out of education - until I need them to help me pay for my child's college education.......






That's pretty hypocritical, isn't it?









Well, since I disagree with just about all of what you wrote, I'll leave it at that.



 



Oh!  and to say Keep goverment out of education - until I need them to help me pay for my child's college education.......



That's pretty hypocritical, isn't it?



I would say that the gov't is part of the PROBLEM in funding higher education.  Colleges aren't going to close up shop when people can't afford to send their kids to school.  They'll lower prices.  Basic economics.  Funny how the more gov't helps to pay tuition through grants, loans, etc, the more costly universities become....we are being taken for a ride.



 



 









 





 

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Let me ask this: if a prominent sports star wanted to come to your child's school and give the same speech, word for word, would you have a problem with it?



Absolutely I would have a problem with it because sports stars have a tendency of getting caught in the media for things they should not be doing. Either they are plagued by steroid scandal or they end up Driving Under the Influence  or  carrying weapons and getting in trouble with it. I understand not all sports stars are like that but you never know anymore. It takes only one night and a poor choiceor a loose mouth to make them the headline of the day,,,,Look at the latest Shawne Merriman.....



 



 

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I never said anything about brainwashing either words that did not come out of my comments are being put in here ???


Honey take a chill pill, there are hundreds of comments in this post. Some posters mentioned the brainwashing thing. You know, there's really nobody out to get you here.

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A LOT of people did mention brainwashing... no one said that it was you that did...

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