Need Help Finding a Pediatrician who doesn't vaccinate.

Jessie - posted on 01/27/2009 ( 104 moms have responded )

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I am currently 31 wks. pregnant and searching for a pediatrician. I am choosing not to vaccinate and am having trouble finding a pediatric doctor for my child that supports my needs. Does anyone have any input on going about finding a doc with more "natural" remedies? A websit to find these people?? HELPPP!!!

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Wendy - posted on 01/27/2009

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I am sorry your question about a doctor was turned into a bashing of your decision to not vaccinate. While at a top children's hospital last week, an RN in the surgery dept. told us that if she had it to do over again, she might not vaccinate her children. She sees what vaccines can do, she knows-and she has the medical education everyone else here is clinging to.

It is not true that non vaccinated children get sick more often-that doesn't even make sense! Vaccines don't protect against colds and other simple childhood illnesses.

The Scarlet Fever claim is nonsense as well-you can't blame a non vaxed kid for bringing it in if no one is vaxed for Scarlet Fever (and I don't believe they are).



Do you know that the only way polio is caught in our country is by the very vaccine that is supposed to protect us from it?



Do you know that the CDC doesn't know when the Chicken Pox vax will wear off, leaving our children vulnerable to the disease when it's most crucial to NOT get it-if they'd left Chicken Pox alone, more people would have a real immunity to it that lasts instead of a weak one that wears off.



Do you know that immunizations are tested alone, but not in a mix-so the combination of diseases put in your child's body have never been tested to see if the chemical ingredients react together.



Do you know that the Hep B vaccine your newborn gets when he's just hours old is for a sexually transmitted disease? None of my children have been at risk for an STD at that age...how about yours?



Please don't assume people who don't vaccinate are idiots. I would bet we've all read, thought, prayed, read more, asked questions and discussed with our husbands about this topic way more than anyone who simply blindly trusts the government's guidelines.



And for the original topic-our doctors are supportive of us delaying vaccines, we've just approached it in a calm, humble manner.

Rebekah - posted on 01/28/2009

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My child's doctor supported my decision, she has a few parent's who chose NOT to vaccinate.  You have to sign some forms, but that is it.  Some options are to spread the shots out, don't get any all at once, or just go with the basics, the ones we got 30  years ago...Going to school is no problem also, it is under a "religous right" , and there is a waiver for that as  well. It is still a CHOICE, make an informed one.  My son just turnd 2, and has never had a vaccine, very healthy, and right on track...

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Ugh...did this poor lady ask whether or not to immunize? Did she want everyone & their mother's oppinion about that? No...the question was where to find a ped. that doesn't vaccinate!



Anyway, to answer the question...I don't think there are many pediatricians who do not vaccinate. I too have yet to find one but, what I did do was omit the ones I was most worried about (at least until their bodies are bigger & strong enough to handle all those toxins) & then when they are very young I only had them administer 1 at a time. Then when they hit 1 years old I had them give only 2 at a time. I have a brother that at 1 & 2 was perfectly healthy...then when he was 3 he had his vaccinations & did a complete 180...he wasn't very social anymore & couldn't verbalize as well as he could before & then was diagnosed with autism. True there is no proof but, I wasn't & am still not willing to take chances with the immunizations. Best wishes!

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In the 1950's, Autism was also called "Refrigerator Mother Syndrome" and children diagnosed with it were ripped from loving families because the Mother's were thought to have caused the disease in their children. These children were then taken to institutions where they were taught to hate their mother's.

On a more important note, this is getting ridiculous. Every parent must make their own choice, and for all the Christians out there, remember where it says in the Bible to love thy neighbour, and he who lives in glass houses should not throw stones?

Jessie, you've gotten some good advice here, and sadly had to endure a lot of hypocrisy and bashing for your choice. I apologise to you for that. It's agonising to make some of these choices, and there is such a massive amount of information to sift through, it's expected that you are overwhelmed with it all!

In the US, there is not a SINGLE MEDICAL PROCEDEURE that you are FORCED to do. You can turn down any procedure at any time. Other moms on here have recommended setting up interview appointments with multiple pediatricians, and that, I think, is your best bet. Talking to your OB/Midwife and Chiropractors is also a good idea. The medical community networks itself like any other. Ask at hospitals as well.

Best of luck to you with your upcoming labor and delivery, and brightest blessings to you and your family with this amazing new addition. Whatever you decide to do, I hope it brings nothing but the best to you and your family.

For my part, I have two children. Both have been immunised. My son is on the Autistic Specturm, along with Bi-Polar and ADHD, and has been notably delayed since birth, prior to recieving any of his immunizations. He recieved every last one of them and has developed to a wonderful little boy of 10, with above average intelligence, clear, articulate speech, and some socioemotional delays related to his psychological impairments. My daughter is in her Gifted program at school, works at 3-4 grade levels above her chronological one, and is being looked at for admittance to a local private school for gifted children. Both are ridiculously healthy, happy, and content children. My best friend has not immunized any of her children, and her children are also intelligent, beautiful, healthy kids.

Jessie, do what's right for you and your family. Best to you all. I'm sorry you've had to deal with so much nonsense when looking for help from a community of your peers.

Kelly

Feel free to email me if you'd like, rykatemom@gmail.com

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Oh, I have done my homework.... which is exactly why I chosen not too.  Besides, how sure are you that it doesn't cause autism? Sure enough to face my autistic sister who just happened to be one of the "rare" ones that carries the gene... or our friends' son, who is now so deeply autistic, that it's hard for him to function properly.... or to the thousands of families who's children have been affected by them....  You don't know you are going to have a reaction, until it's too late.  And how about our very own government, who has conceded that maybe there is some truth to the thousands of claims out there... OR the fact that vaccinations have been proven that they don't always work...  and CAN cause disease and CAN be linked to chronic illnesses, including the entire spectrum of developmental, learning and behavioral disorders epidemic in our children.  Or that not all cases of a returned diseases is the result of  unvaccinated people.... it's just the only cases our wonderful media is going to report on!  (Example: There was a recent outbreak of Whooping cough in NJ... and guess what. So far, every single case has been in a vaccinated child!)  You say disease is down from before vaccinations, but did it ever occur to you that is also paralleled improved sanitation and hygienic practices??   Trust me....  I DO get it.... I KNOW how bad it can be, and I know what my rights are to avoid it. You say you want your kids to live?  What about all those kids out there, permanently scarred & affected...  don't you  think those kids want to "live" too?

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Annie - posted on 01/28/2009

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I feel I have to clear something up. I have a 4 year old son that has autism. Those of you who keep saying that the autism community is stating that we are saying that vaccines are causing autism; well from what I know that is false. Many parents and books that I have read state that it is not the actual vaccine that is causing the "isssue" but that these children are born with a preconceived condition were their immune system is compromised, and when they are shot up with many vaccines at once, it plays havoc with their bodies, thus autism etc. That is why you hear of parents spreading the vaccines out; which is what we did with our second son after our first was diagnosed. Most of the parents I have talked with don't want to ban or get rid of vaccines all together, they just want testing done on newborns to find out who might be carriers of this so it does not happen. Some children are allergic to pennicilin, other medicines etc, which is why those children don't receive that medication. So why not find out the same for vaccines and find out what children might not respond appropriately to too many vaccines. With this information, we have chosen to vaccinate, but we have spread them out with the help of our pediatrician. I hope this helps.

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Why not vaccinate? I TOTALLY respect your decision to raise our kids as you see fit, however, if you plan to have them in any daycare, Mom's Day Out, or school them outside the home, vaccines are a must. I can't imagine trying to cram them all in with a child old enough to be afraid of needles, etc. The vaccines are a breeze in those first couple years, a minute of crying, you pick them up and all is right in their world again. I have done enless research on this and have a parent with FDA. The time frames in which we are asked to vaccinate our children, is based on scientific proof that age is ideal for that vaccine- it presents the least risk. I am sure Autism is a concern, I totally understand that. But nothing out there worthwhile supports a link between the two. As a parent who vaccinates, it is scary to me, to think of kids not vaccinated. The child getting vaccinations poses no threat to anyone else, but the child not getting them does. I would much rather know my kids were in a school where everyone was required to do the same thing, and hopefully avoid some of these terrible illnesses that are cropping back up as a result of vaccine boycotts. I wish you all the best in finding a Ped. who can meet your needs. Every mom deserves that, but I truly do hope that you reconsider vaccines for your child. We can't protect our kids from nearly as much as we'd like to, but with vaccines, you can certainly save them for illnesses that could kill, permanently injur/scar them.

Annie - posted on 01/28/2009

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I have friends that did not have their children vaccinated, and they take their children to a chiropractor for everything. Their chiropractor acts as their doctor. Wish I had other suggestions for you... good luck.

Diane - posted on 01/28/2009

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I assume, like all people choosing not to vaccinate today, that you believe your child will become autistic. I IMPLORE you to do your research. If not for your own children, then for everyone else. There is a herd aspect to vaccinating that all of the people who choose not to are missing. 5 years ago there were less than 10 deaths of infants under 1 year old to whooping cough, last year there were over 150. This is a direct result of people choosing NOT to vaccinate. However, I am an American and I do believe in freedom of choice. Although I do not know of a pediatrician myself, my chiropractor, J. Randall Jackson on Olive Ave in Lake Worth did not vaccinate his children and is a big advocate for it. He could perhaps point you in the right direction for a ped. Please think twice about this. Also, are you aware most states will not allow your child to attend day care or public school without them.,

Shannon - posted on 01/28/2009

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Jessie you didn't know what kind of a can of worms you were opening did you. LOL 



When it comes to finding a pediatrician you just need to be honest with them. My husband and I found one in our area that was covered by our insurance then we meet with him before our baby was born. He is very pro vaccine but he also repects our chooses. He just told us that he always reserves the right to ask us to come through the back door if any of our daughters symptoms matches certain illnesses.



Another thing you might want to start looking for now is childcare if you are not staying at home with your child. A lot of places will not take a child that has not been vaccinated.



I also would like to recommend The Vaccine Book by Dr. Sears. I was anti vaccine before reading this book but now I will allow my daughter to get some vaccines, not all, but some. He is very imparsial and just tells the dangers and risks involved in all vaccines. I am also waiting until she gets older. I don't see the since in injecting a virus into a newborn baby that hasn't even had their first cold yet.



To me this decission is very personal and  some of these mean comments on here was uncalled for. The whole vaccine debate is not just about autisum it is about several auto immune disorders.



Good luck.

Rachael - posted on 01/28/2009

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Hi! i have a 19 month old and i have chosen the same route. all drs most likely vaccinate, but they will not if you ask and i have seem to found that they also respect what you ask. GOOD LUCK!

Rachael - posted on 01/28/2009

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Hi! i have a 19 month old and i have chosen the same route. all drs most likely vaccinate, but they will not if you ask and i have seem to found that they also respect what you ask. GOOD LUCK!

Brenda - posted on 01/28/2009

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I understand the doubts behind non vaccination, I am an Attachment parent in many respects, but not this one.  My mother had polio as a child, and for me the chances are just too great.  I have one sone that had no trouble from the vaccines he received, and we even had the chicken pox vaccination done as well.  I have researched the issue, and to me the possible side effects of vaccines don't outweight the benefits.  The link between vaccines and autism has been pretty well disproven, and the individual who posed that link has come under fire for faulty research on that subject.  The incident most often sited was a single case that was due to other factors than the vaccinations.  Other than that I just don't believe the idea that if everyone else is vaccinated my child cannot get sick.  All it takes is one germ on one person to kill a child, and I don't feel the need to take that risk.



It is your decision, and if you do decide to change vaccinations, please consider the alternative vaccination schedule offered on askdrsears.com.  If you do not vaccinate at all, your should try to find a pediatrician that will work with you.  Most doctors will not, whereas they may agree to the alternative vaccination schedule.  If you are using a midwife or doula, they may have suggestions of which doctor might be more condusive to your way of thinking.  Good luck with the baby, though.  :)  My only suggestion is to do all the research and set yourself up as an informed parent before going through with these type of decisons.  And remember, what works for one person, like me, may not be right for you or your child. 

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This was also a concern of mine and then I did a little more research.  Many of the issues with vaccines involve the ones that are given in "packs"  Many of those have been cause for concern and if you ask your doctor she/he may be able to give the vacs in single does.  Also, I talked to a nurse about them and she was telling me that there used to be a certain (cant remember the name) preservative was put in many vaccines but they no longer use it.  It actually is only used in the Adult Flu Vaccine(which I refuse to get).  Good luck to you!

Kathleen - posted on 01/28/2009

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Why would you not vaccinate your child. I know all the contreversy with the mmr, But the hib vaccine has been a blessing for children we hardly see epiglotittis any more or children dying from the hemopholis flu. THe prevnar vaccine helps with ear infections and pnemonia which children die from. I reccommend re thinking your not vaccinating the pros far out weigh the cons.

Jaymi - posted on 01/28/2009

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As a pediatrician and a mother, I agree with many of the postings below. You should choose a pediatrician who you respect and trust, even if you do not agree entirely about the vaccinations. Then you can begin a long conversation over time about the reasons that some parents are afraid to vaccinate, and the reasons why health care providers are so overwhelmingly in favor of immunizations. That sort of healthy relationship will provide a much better foundation over time to make difficult decisions in the best interest of your future child.

Megan - posted on 01/28/2009

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Hi there, I'm sorry I can't help you with regards to your original post looking for a Dr, as I'm based in Australia. I wish you all the best with regards to your search.



As parents we are all trying our best to do what is right for our kids. There are so many things that I said I wouldnt do as a parent "when I have children etc" and guess what? I do. We looked at the vaccine dabate, and made the choice to vaccinate for various reasons.



Our family tree was littered with people in the last 2 centuries that died from awful illnesses that have been put on the back foot now because of vacinating, but these illnesses are still out there and we decided that we could protect our children from them by immunising them. We have travelled extensively and seen the effects of these illnesses first hand. Some of the most beautiful places in the world are still being hit by these diseases. We felt that it would be impossible to live in a global world and keep our children living in a bubble, kept away from anyone who may be a silent carrier of these illnesses. When you think of all the people you meet over the course of the year, can you really gaureentee that they haven't been exposed to something somewhere, sometime. If you take the 6 degrees of separation approach we are all not too far away from people with serious illnesses. A carrier could be a person passing through your town stopping at the supermarket. The reason these illnesses are not so common today is because many people have protected their kids by taking on the comparative risk of vaccination. Thus protecting those around them. When we discussed whether to vacinate or not my husband took this view a step further, he felt that in order to be a good global citizen and help protect others, we should do our bit and vaccinate our children. He felt it was like doing dury service, or obeying laws etc, it was how he could contribute to making the world a safer place. It's also reasuring to know that wherever in the world our children choose to travel whether with us or not we have done our best to prepare them and protect them. Good luck with your search, just please encourage your children to look carefully into the debate themselves, before they decide to backpack around the world or take a break in an exotic spot. Take care and good luck with resolving your original query, I'm sorry your question has been taken to a different level and that I have contributed to that, but like so many "taboo" topics that people try to tiptoe around these days this is one that is gaureenteed to get people animated!

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Jessie, Hi! I would look into a homopathic or enviromental doctor to fulfill your wishes. I know in some states there is an exemption to vaxes and you should research your state to find out. I do not know your reasons for not getting the shots but I went through getting my first born vaxed and at 18 months he had an adverse reaction which then I saw a reverse in his speech, did not tie the 2 together. I continued with shots but then at that point they slow down on the quantities. He then had another reaction to shots at 4 yrs. The only 2 shots he had was prevnar and the flu shot. What I was not told was there were 2 flu shots available one with and without the preservative. The immunization shots prior to 2004 I believe had the mercury preservative in it till a big fuss was made. Then they took it out. But the flu shot was not changed and the preservative was in it. There you have it, he had 2 reactions to shots. It isn't the immunization that is wrong it is the preservative that some children react too. I no longer get him any shots and out state has an exemption too. My baby girl did not get the hep shot at birth. Just the vitamin K drops in her eyes. Later after she was so many months old I decided to get shots but at a much slower rate. That way her body could adjust to 2 shots (one in each leg) and I could monitor the reaction to them. She has had none so far.  When you have a child react to these shots, it makes you cautious. My son has been diagnosed with mild autism and speech delay. We have no family history of autism either. Immunizations are designed to help prevent the severity of the disease. There isn't anything out there that will prevent things completely or we would not need to get these immunizations year after year and child after child. It is a personal choice and I do not think there is a right or wrong answer. Take care.

Carolyn - posted on 01/28/2009

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I and several other families that I know do not vaccinate.  Most of the diseases that they vaccinate against were on the downcline due to better hygiene, better water and sanitation and better eating. The pharmaceutical companies (and they teach the doctors and nurses) go on the premise that the vaccines work and that they do not harm, but they do not do long term studies, only short term (a couple of days after the shot), when signs come up that something is wrong it is normally attibuted to something else and not researched back to the vaccinations.  But more than that they use formaldahyde, aluminum, a murcury substance and many many more toxic and caustic substances that attack the brain and other body functions.  Some children are more prone to the toxins than others that is why some have reactions and some do not.  But aluminum builds in the brain (see studies on aluminum causing Alzheimer's). Formaldahyde is for embalming dead bodies and mercury in any amount is just hazardous to your health.  There was a study in Japan and they found that the DPT vaccine might be causing SIDS, they mandated that children were not to receive the DPT vaccine until they were two, the SIDS cases dropped immediately and drastically.  In the 1950's the autism rate was 1 in 100,000 now it is projected to be 1 in 66.



You can find on the CDC the ingrediants that are used to stabilize the vaccines, there are other sites that can also list the ingrediants and they tell you on the environmental scale where they rate for caustic, dangerous poisons.



All that to tell you that I go so a local pediatrician and just tell them that I am not going to vaccinate.  They list all the scare stories and made me sign a form that I will not hold them liable.  Which is what they also do when you get a vaccination, so why if they are soooo good do I have to sign a form that I will not hold them liable?



Unless you can find a homeopathic doctor in your area, just use the best one that you can find and stand your ground.  I gave my sons doctor a list of the ingrediants found in the vaccines.  She said that she did not know that the toxins were in the vaccines.



Anyway, God bless.

Gelaine - posted on 01/28/2009

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If your children are immunized than you have nothing to worry about!!!! So let us that choose not to immunize have that choice, and stop bashing us. It is each individuals own decision and no one should be put down for making an educated decision.

Jackie - posted on 01/28/2009

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I run a home daycare and will not have children who are not up to date with vaccinations...so be carefull of that as well as schools. 

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I run a home daycare and will not have children who are not up to date with vaccinations...so be carefull of that as well as schools. 

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Agree with Ashley and Sarah - the benefits of vaccination far out weigh the cons. I think you may want to investigate further, and talk to you OB as well as a pediatrician.

Rachel - posted on 01/28/2009

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just a thought - alot of mums have stated that they have not vaccinated and they have healthy children. Well, they have alot of life left to live and hopefully they will have there own children one day. Let's hope they do not catch these illnesses when they or pregnant or pass them onto an immunosuppressed child (such as one with cancer). They will have to live the rest of there life unprotected from diseases which we know from history kill and disable. We need to consider the broader community and be vigilant. That being said, there are children who cannot for medical reasons be vaccinated - ie, those on with leukemia for instance. As a society, we are responsible to protect them from outbreaks that would be devasting for them.

Ashley - posted on 01/28/2009

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i live in ottawa ont..and your children do have to be vaccinated to get into school....they need their vaccination papers...so here it's not a lie...no vaccinations no school......as for myself i do vaccinate my son....out of everyone in our family there's not one person with autism caused from vaccinations....my sons pediatrician actually told us that there was a study done years ago because parents thought it caused autism..... they took kids who had their vaccinations and kids who didnt...and the number of kids on both sides with autism were equal....please noone reply saying that what i've said is a lie and i dont know my facts..this is what i've been told by a very well trained professional....my son actually has to get more vaccinations because he had bacterial meningitis as a newborn..he needs the needles for meningicocol meningitis because he is at higher risk of getting it......meningicocol is extremely deadly and can kill a child within 24 hrs of getting it...it is a vaccination that is optional and we have decided to do it seeing as we almost lost him once and dont want the risk of losing him again..........you not vaccinating is totally your decision....all moms have different opinions on things.....drs do look out for the best interest in your child but as a mom you know what is best for your children....i think vaccinating is the best for my son but others may not think so....i dont think we should look down on eachother for it .....i'm not a bad mother for vaccinating my son and you are not a bad mother for not vaccinating......as long as your children are being taken care of (being fed, loved, etc..) i beleive that is all that matters........everyone loves their children to death and we all want whats best.......good luck with your search!....

Diane - posted on 01/28/2009

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This is definetly a hot topic!!!!  My son is almost 5 and when he was born both his father and I were strongly against immunizing our child.  He was so little and helpless.  We wanted only the best things for him.  We went for a year and a half without immunizing him.  Then we had a bit of a wake up call, that we never realy thought about in the begining.  We wanted to travel.  And we want him to travel with us.  So to go to these places we decided to start immunizing.  We are happy to say we didn't start pumping him with the shots right away.  but down the road the decision was changed.  No doctor can make the decision for you, it's yours to make.  Who knows what will happen down the road for you.  Or your children.  But you ultimatly make the choices for them.  Just think about what they would want when they are older.  I have a feeling my son will want to travel the world.  And when we all go together as a family I dont want to keep him in a plastic bubble while we all go play in the lake.



 

Kristine - posted on 01/28/2009

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It is not true that you only catch polio if you have the vaccine. We are a country whee immigrants from all over the world come every day. not only do many come from those countries that do not give the vaccine, others come from countries that gave watered down vaccines. Polio is alive and well around the world. Just as the other diseases that vaccines are intended to prevent. No we do not yet see a huge increase in those who develop those diseases in the USA because this ida of not innoculating is fairly new.

However much I disagree with someone's decision to not use a vaccine, or feel that the studies that show that it causes autism are flawed or incomplete, it does not change the right of a parent to decide that for her child. Jessie was in search of help to find a doctor and instead of asking questions, several directed negative comments in her direction. As mothers that is unacceptable IMO. We need to support each other even in those decisions we disagree with. Also bear in mind, you will never change someone's opinions by attacking their decisions.

Just food for thought.

Gail - posted on 01/28/2009

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I have both my children vaccinated, because i would be devastated if my children got an illness such as polio (which has there is no cure for) or T.B , or any other illnesses which can be life threatening. We are an english family living in Spain and to get into any schools here we have to give them photocopies of the childs vaccinations book which is stamped and dated by a pediatrition, we have to do this every few years when the childs at the age for another  vaccination,  And i think it is absolutly nessasery to vaccinate children so diseases do not spread.



I think its quit selfish not to vaccinate children but then i have no worrys as my two are fully immunised

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It's better to have an autistic child than have a brain damaged one or a dead child from not getting the vaccine's! They help ALOT more that they harm! And the harms are unfounded anyhow...

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Hi there,



I just wanted to say I am a non-vaccinating momma too. And Autism is not the ONLY concern with vaccinations. If WE ALL did good research you would know that is not the ONLY reason we choose NOT to vaccinate. My 1st daughter was vaccinated until she was 6 months old and my 2nd daughter who is 3 never has received a vaccination. Both my kids are healthy all the time. I even run a daycare with kids coming in and out sick all the time and guess who's kids don't get sick the most? yes, that would be MINE. And when mine do get it it lasts NO LONGER then a day. How incredible is that? when all the other kids are sick for atleast a week. I have NO doubt that my kids are as healthy and smart as they are because we did not inject them with disgusting chemicals and embroys. Also, vaccinations aren't the reason polio is not around. When polio was around it was known to be started in very dirty places and where stagnant (sp?) water was. My moms b/f in high school got it from going into a river also. With time people live cleaner which is another reason it's not around anymore. RESEARCH it. The information is right under your nose. Instead of saying oh the goverment will always protect us and won't harm us, Think again. Why take that chance of being wrong?



 



Just my 2 cents.



Research all you can then decide.



 



Stacey Kessler



:) Happiest mommy to my girls

Jamie - posted on 01/28/2009

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I faced the same problem when I was pregnant with my son. I couldn't find a website, so I ended up calling several pediatricians in the area and made appointments for interviews with them. The office that I chose in the end does vaccinate, but they do not push it on me. They respect my right to chose what I believe is best for my child. They are required by law to hand our forms about the vaccinations when you take your baby for well-baby checkups. You also have to sign a form refusing the vaccines. I have refused all the shots and my son is a HEALTHY 8 month old. He has never had any ear infections or any problems that can be caused by the shots. I am a stay at home mom and still breastfeed, both of which contribute to his health. Make sure you let the nurses and your ob know that you don't want the shots they give right after bith. They will try to sneak those in on you sometimes. Good luck on your search for a doctor. Don't let anyone force you into doing something that you feel is not best for your child. Best of luck for a wonderful delivery and a super healthy baby!

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Hi Jessie,

I am sorry so many people are bashing your belief and choice not to vaccinate. I am a 27 year old mother of 7 month twins and I have not been vaccinated and I chose not to vaccinate my children as well. I am perfectly healthy and so are my children and I am still looking for a pediatrician who does not try to persuade me into getting them vaccinated. Where do you live? I live in Wisconsin and have seen a homeopathic doctor in the Milwaukee area all my life. He is wonderful and now my children see him. The people who are stating that your child will not get into schools is totally ignorant, it is simply not true! As for the lady who mentioned about developmental delays in children who are not vaccinated is totally way off base and she has no proof behind that statement!! Again I am perfectly healthy and so are my babies!!! It is your choice!! If you want any further information on homeopathy feel free to email me and I would love to give you more information!! Good luck to you and do not listen to people who want to push their opinions on you!!

Jody - posted on 01/28/2009

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u lot should drop it now, we all have our own views on this subject and its just going to keep going round in circles. i still stand by wht i said in my 1st post but i really do think its getting silly now. chill out girlies xx

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I am actually trying to find a pediatrician who will take my children since I just last week got a letter in the mail saying their not going to take me anymore and their are lots and lots of people I know who are having the same problem don't let any one tell you diff. you don't want to give them don't your not the only one their is a law you do not have to have vaccinations to get in to school that's a lye and if they try to keep you from getting your kids into school sue them I've checked into it my self

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Quoting Kelly:



Quoting Jolene:

Excuse me KELLY but if vaccinations work so well, then why are you afraid of your child catching something from an unvaccinated one??

But back to your question Jessie (sorry but the ignorance of people amazes me)...where do you live? US or Canada?
I see a homeopathic doctor for things like colds and such which works really well for her and myself. And I also still see my regular doctor because obviously neither side of medicine has all the answers. I told my doctor I didn't want to vaccinate and she was fine with that. But I do know that it is easier for Canadians then Americans to make that choice.






It amazes me that people like you have to sink so low & name call, what are you 12?   I chose not to get the MMR because i've read alot of bad things about it!





I wasn't talking about you! There was another girl who posted named Kelly but her comment got deleted shortly after she posted it. and her comment was extremly rude. (by the way I don't see any name calling in what i posted). I don't vaccinate, therefore I defiantly wasn't reffering to you if you didn't get the mmr.

Tia - posted on 01/28/2009

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they actually have papers at birth you can fill out or at any time and your child can go though school with out them I did you choose to vaccinate I don't with my children my son is 2 and a half and never been sick and fill blessed to never have to deal with that

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Quoting Shannon:

i vaccinate all 3 of my children. they are soooooo smart and would recommend vaccinating to any one. There is no way for your kids to get in school if you don't. you can always home school, but in my opinion you are just sheltering your child from making friends and living a normal life. I am not trying to be rude at all, but what would you do if your child caught one of the diseases we vaccinate against and came to something bad, if you know what i mean? i couldn't live with my self. I am sure you will make the right decision. God bless and good luck!



this is the most ignorant, misinformed, n idiotic thing ive read on this thus far, sry but u have no buisness stating an opinion lk this when it is completly false n there are no facts stated just pure aggressive opinion

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I just saw your cry for help and I felt the same way with my son. I recently switch doctors because we didn't exactly see eye to eye. I did however vaccinate my son(with some not all) I just did things a little differently and luckly found someone that was willing to respect my decisions. It's best to just find someone that is open minded and ask friends and family. Good Luck!

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Wow! Thanks for everyones input, sorry it ended up opening a BIG can of worms!



I did siphon through all the responses, and weeded out some of the answers to my original question. Thanks again!

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the only other ones that have to worry are others that are not vaccinated themselves, so really it doesn't affect anyone that hasn't already made that same decision.

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Quoting Jessie:

Need Help Finding a Pediatrician who doesn't vaccinate.

I am currently 31 wks. pregnant and searching for a pediatrician. I am choosing not to vaccinate and am having trouble finding a pediatric doctor for my child that supports my needs. Does anyone have any input on going about finding a doc with more "natural" remedies? A websit to find these people?? HELPPP!!!



You need to vacinate as it is not only unfair on your child but other children around them.  Because parents withdrew their children from the MMR vacine we have seen measles return to the UK.  If you do not want the triple vacination you can get these done as single doses.  But don't be irresponsible by not vacinating, it affects others & not only you. 

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Quoting Shannon:

i vaccinate all 3 of my children. they are soooooo smart and would recommend vaccinating to any one. There is no way for your kids to get in school if you don't. you can always home school, but in my opinion you are just sheltering your child from making friends and living a normal life. I am not trying to be rude at all, but what would you do if your child caught one of the diseases we vaccinate against and came to something bad, if you know what i mean? i couldn't live with my self. I am sure you will make the right decision. God bless and good luck!



Well I have to disagree with you Shannon.  I grew up in a family of 8 children, and none of us have been vaccinated.  The public school system cannot deny your child an education based off of whether he/she is vaccinated or not.  All you have to do is provide a letter, stating that you have chosen not to vaccinate your child due to religious purposes.  Rather simple in fact.  Also there have been studies that have shown that children that are not vaccinated have much less of a chance to get autism or ADHD. I have a daughter and I have chosen not to vaccinate her and I am very comfortable with my decision.  Her doctor, who is not a homeopathic doctor, who suggests not to vaccinate, but an actual pediatrician did not argue with me when I told her that I chose not to vaccinate my child.  It was a very hard decision to make, but many of the illnesses are not very succeptible today, and there is a surprisingly large amount of children that have developed quite normally until about two years old when they recieved their last immunization, and all of the sudden developed autism.  I would have to say that it is not a coincidence.



 



In response to the original question.  No matter who your pediatrician is, they cannot force you to vaccinate your children.  Do your research if you want a natural doctor, and as was stated before, go to a health food store, or even some chiropractors might have some good suggestions, as they are not really accepted into the medical community as they should be, but they would possibly have connections if they weren't a natural doctors themselves.  Hope this has been helpful.



 



Stay strong in your decision, because it is your choice that nobody else can make for you!!

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Hi, I have read numerous notes written above. I cannot believe how rude people can be. To answer some of their questions. Yes, your child will be let into school. Mine are in kind. and 2 in preschool and they have no vaccinations. I have never had a problem getting them into school. It was my choice not to vaccinate them and that is exactly what I tell the school.



On to Autism. I chose not to vaccinate b/c, no matter the research... I believe it does contribute to autism. I worked with Autistic children for 10 years before having my own children. 9 out of 10 parents had very devestating stories of how their children were developing normally until the round of vaccinations at 2 years old. Within in days, weeks almost all of their typically normal behavior was gone. None were verbal any longer. None made eye contact without prompting.. etc.

I was not taking the chance of having my children be affected by vaccines if I didn't have too.



When I chose a pediatrician I was very honest with them at the interview. I told them they could ask me at all visits but I would never have my children vaccinated.

All had a problem with my choice but said it was my choice and they would respect that. All three of my children are extremely healthy. They go to a chiro. and visit the ped. for well visits once a year.

I respect you for your desicion not to vac. I wish the best for you and your family.

Angie - posted on 01/28/2009

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Hello,



I see that you've had lots of 'help' already and I'll admit I have not read ALL of the many replies, but I have not seen one dealing with what happens if there is an outbreak of a disease for which there is a vaccine but no treatment, such as measles. If you do decide not to vaccinate and there is an outbreak, be prepared to be quaranteed in your home for a few weeks as this is what happens and has happened in several communities lately.



As for finding doctors sympathetic to your wishes, I would suggest a homeopath or naturopath. There are websites that will list people in your area. My husband is a family physician and I am a physician assistant. We do vaccinate our kids and strongly suggest you vaccinate yours too. Most of the family docs we know don't see people who don't want to vaccinate because it is frustrating to have your medical advice go unheeded.



Good luck with your decision and remember that in the long run, 80% of illness in today's world comes from lifestyle issues - it all comes down to diet and exercise!



Angie

Natalie - posted on 01/28/2009

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Please recheck your information. Allmost, all of it is twisted or inaccurate or out in out wrong. Varicella or chicken pox wears off at age 12 and the CDC as well as the maker of the vac. knew that when it was invented. Hep B is not just a sexually tranmitted illness it has spread and can be caught easily in hospitals and other places as well. I would like to speak to anyone who has polio from having the shot since it is a DEAD virus and cannot cause polio. All vaccines are tested for sometimes YEARS before being administered to anyone. I don't assume those who choose not to vaccinate are idiots but there is ample misinformation out there and people are looking at it as truth. Google is not FACT.

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Quoting Wendy:

I am sorry your question about a doctor was turned into a bashing of your decision to not vaccinate. While at a top children's hospital last week, an RN in the surgery dept. told us that if she had it to do over again, she might not vaccinate her children. She sees what vaccines can do, she knows-and she has the medical education everyone else here is clinging to.
It is not true that non vaccinated children get sick more often-that doesn't even make sense! Vaccines don't protect against colds and other simple childhood illnesses.
The Scarlet Fever claim is nonsense as well-you can't blame a non vaxed kid for bringing it in if no one is vaxed for Scarlet Fever (and I don't believe they are).

Do you know that the only way polio is caught in our country is by the very vaccine that is supposed to protect us from it?

Do you know that the CDC doesn't know when the Chicken Pox vax will wear off, leaving our children vulnerable to the disease when it's most crucial to NOT get it-if they'd left Chicken Pox alone, more people would have a real immunity to it that lasts instead of a weak one that wears off.

Do you know that immunizations are tested alone, but not in a mix-so the combination of diseases put in your child's body have never been tested to see if the chemical ingredients react together.

Do you know that the Hep B vaccine your newborn gets when he's just hours old is for a sexually transmitted disease? None of my children have been at risk for an STD at that age...how about yours?

Please don't assume people who don't vaccinate are idiots. I would bet we've all read, thought, prayed, read more, asked questions and discussed with our husbands about this topic way more than anyone who simply blindly trusts the government's guidelines.

And for the original topic-our doctors are supportive of us delaying vaccines, we've just approached it in a calm, humble manner.


 

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Quoting Rachel:

that is my point - polio has been eradicated due to vaccination - that is a positive thing, don't you agree? Yes, it is every parents perogative whether or not to vaccinate. Just giving some food for thought.


Polio is only gone in our country because we as a society choose to be a first rate not a third world country.  If we all don't vaccinate it will return and worse than before.  My point is to be informed.

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i vaccinate all 3 of my children. they are soooooo smart and would recommend vaccinating to any one. There is no way for your kids to get in school if you don't. you can always home school, but in my opinion you are just sheltering your child from making friends and living a normal life. I am not trying to be rude at all, but what would you do if your child caught one of the diseases we vaccinate against and came to something bad, if you know what i mean? i couldn't live with my self. I am sure you will make the right decision. God bless and good luck!

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Quoting Jody:



Quoting Terri:

I can not believe how judgemental & rude some of you are being to this young woman. Who are you to sit in judgement of HER decision on vaccines for HER child? Is she judging your decision to vaccinate?
We all have our different opinions, but in case you hadn't noticed, that is not what she asked for. She simply asked for help & advise on her decision.
If this is the reactions you get when posting something others may not agree with you on I'm not sure I want to post much here.

Jessie...I hope you find a DR. you are comfortable with & send many blessings for you & baby-to-be. :o)






if she didnt want opinions she shouldn't of put it up in a PUBLIC forum then.






that stil doesnt give concent for rudeness n unexusable behavior

Jody - posted on 01/28/2009

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Quoting Terri:

I can not believe how judgemental & rude some of you are being to this young woman. Who are you to sit in judgement of HER decision on vaccines for HER child? Is she judging your decision to vaccinate?
We all have our different opinions, but in case you hadn't noticed, that is not what she asked for. She simply asked for help & advise on her decision.
If this is the reactions you get when posting something others may not agree with you on I'm not sure I want to post much here.

Jessie...I hope you find a DR. you are comfortable with & send many blessings for you & baby-to-be. :o)



if she didnt want opinions she shouldn't of put it up in a PUBLIC forum then.

Terri - posted on 01/28/2009

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I can not believe how judgemental & rude some of you are being to this young woman. Who are you to sit in judgement of HER decision on vaccines for HER child? Is she judging your decision to vaccinate?

We all have our different opinions, but in case you hadn't noticed, that is not what she asked for. She simply asked for help & advise on her decision.

If this is the reactions you get when posting something others may not agree with you on I'm not sure I want to post much here.



Jessie...I hope you find a DR. you are comfortable with & send many blessings for you & baby-to-be. :o)

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Hi Jessie,

Wow, you have gotten a lot of feedback already. I am a labor and delivery nurse and see people making choices for their babies that the babies cannot make for themselves. Sometimes the choices are informed and sometimes they are made from misinformation that has been relayed to them by friends, family, the media.... Some people choose not to vaccinate for religious reasons, others out of fear that they will somehow harm their baby (ex. autism). I would definately say do your homework and find a pediatrician that you trust. They have added vaccines in recent years, one such vaccine is roto virus....my son had roto virus and it was horrible. Thankfully, he continued eating and we were able to keep him hydrated, avoiding a trip to the hospital. Every child is different and will cope with illness better than others. My children rarely get the stomach flu...I have friends whose children get the stomach flu every time it is making its rounds through the community. My children have both had mild RSV and avoided hospitalization...friends have had their kids in with overnight stays. I guess my point is, unless you have a religious aversion or your children are allergic to the vaccine...I would suggest that you wisely pick and choose which vaccines to by pass if you are considering none at all. I have been exposed to whooping cough twice at work and have had rounds of prophyllatic antibiotics, mind you while I was pregnant. You are not just choosing something that will affect your own child who cannot make the choice for himself....you are making a choice that affects absolutely every living being who comes in contact with someone who comes in contact with someone who comes in contact with someone...... Good luck with your labor and delivery process, I hope this input helps your decision process.

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I have a question for you are you planning on homeschooling your children or are you gonna put them in school. I know in the state I live in a child canot attened school if they are not vaccinted. I'm 26 and I still get  vaccination ever couple of years cause I'm immune to rubella so to keep myself safe I have to get a shot. But in the end its your choice.

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Quoting Jolene:

Ladies...do you really think that us parents who are choosing not to vaccinate haven't done extensive research?!
Shes not asking for everyones opinions on weather they agree with not vaccinating, shes asking for help looking for a certain doctor.



I agree.......while i have vaxed my kids i dont think its any of our places to sit and belittle this mother for the choices she makes for HER children.



honestly i never thought about not vaxxing until i started getting online and reading more......my last  child who is 6mths old has been selectively/delayed vaxxed.......i will not give her any combo vaxes they must be given one at a time and some unneccasary ones i've turned down completely



OP i would just sit down with some of the ped's even if they are pro vaxxing if they are good docs they should respect your choices......my doc is pro vax but is totally supportive of my decisions regarding the selective/delaying........he values my input and choices! good luck!

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