Painful Poop

Heather - posted on 12/21/2009 ( 32 moms have responded )

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My five year old daughter is having severe trouble with her bowels she screams when on the toilet and sometimes she still can't go. It seems she is in pain. I have to give her about three doses of laxative to get her to go. She wouldn't go at all if I didn't give her something. I took her to the doctor they tell me she just tries to hold it. Does anyone have any remedy ideas for me. Please help .

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Tina - posted on 12/29/2009

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Quoting Heather:



Quoting Susan:

Have her checked for Celiac to rule it out. Celiac ia gluten intolerance disease. It can cause severe constipation. A simple blood test can tell. If she comes back positive then they will do a biopsy to confirm. My daughter had the same problem and she turned out to have Celiac. It easily controlled by diet (i.e. no wheat or gluten)






Hi Susan its Heather actually I was thinking about celliac because my niece has it and had severe constipation. I asked my doctor if my daughter could be tested she said no she said if it were celliac she would have loose bwels. I talked to my sister in law and she said my niece was constipated because of celliac.  I may actually make an appointment with my doctor and  demand some tests. We are all suffering everytime Kyra needs to poop.





Hi,



My name is Tina. Hope you don't mind me jumping in here.



If your doctor won't listen to you, Get a New One. :-) Please. My oldest son went through this all his life. We did high fiber, lots of juice, enemas, laxatives, mineral oil, you name it. They would not listen to me. Eventuall at around 5 1/2 he started soiling his pants. Then you get the docs asking about sexual abuse, did you traumatize them with the toilet training, are they mentally unstable and need a therapist. etc, etc. It was horrible.             With my second son he had diarehhea (sp?) and the doc said it was caused by something diff than my older son since it wasn't constipation. They recommended the same diet. With him, he would acutally bleed if his bowel movements touched his skin! they were idiots, I'm sorry to say.



At 7 1/2 yrs a new doc was recommended to me by an acquaintance. He tested for Milk protein intolerance (Casein & when), gluten intolerance (wheat, barley, etc) plus a whole host of other allergies. Within a week of being off milk and wheat my sons bowels were normal for the 1st time in his life! Some parents won't do dietary changes because they think it's too hard. Really, it's not when you break it down.



If you cook/eat lean meats, fresh veggies and fruits and use very few boxed or canned foods (being careful to read the labels) than it's easy. The only trouble being picky eaters (husbands included). Our diet consisted prior to this of lots of pasta and cheese so we had a bit of a time with it. But there are terrific rice noodles by http://www.tinkyada.com/ .



You have to get with knowledgable docs and nutritionists sometimes before you get the right answers. (Proven by tests). You should do a diet log prior to stopping any foods. Log what she eats, drinks and how she feels (both physical & mental/emotional). Watch her behavior. Be aware that behavior can get worse when taking away the offending food but if you can hang in there it will improve. Milk proteins in particular act like a narcotic in the way the affect mood & body and there may be withdrawal symptoms. All symptoms may not be apparent for a couple of days up to a week (thus the reason Pedatric docs tell you to try one new food/wk for new babies).



Sorry this is so long winded. If you want any other info/advice, please email me at tinaharrison@marykay.com



God bless you all.



 

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Jamie - posted on 12/16/2011

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im going throgh the same thing with my daughter. we did the miralax thing and it worked for a couple days but then the stools got so soft shed try to hold her poop in and it end up in her undies instead. this makes me very frustated . we found that when she goes a day or two without pooping she starts to wet herself. doc says more water and more fiber but i have a very stubborn 5 yr old. i have tried a teaspoon of karo syrup (recomended by a grandmother) and that worked too, however i dont want to resort in giving her that everytime she needs to poop. hopefully shell grow out of this stage cause its hard to keep my cool. i found that giving my daughter privacy and turning on the water or tub helps her... why?? no idea.. ive heard many stories of parents dealing with this sorta thing with their kids too.. so we are not alone. hopefully theyll grow out of this stage soon.. good luck to you!

Mel - posted on 01/06/2010

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Rachels suggestion is good and buy fibre powder fom the pharmacy and add it to all meals. Make sure you do cut out dairy as it causes constipation

Rachel - posted on 01/05/2010

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My son just turned 3 & has had thiis problem for abou two years. Dr. Suggested cutting back on all dairy & increase fiber. Try pear juice, which is a natural laxitive. Also, I give my son miralax, an over the counter stool softener daily. It mixed well with any liquid.

Erica - posted on 12/31/2009

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My kids all had the same problem. I came up with this remedy that really helped them allot. In a blender, mix 1 Tsp of Senekot, 1 Tablespoon Mineral oil, 1 Cup of ice and then some chocolate syrup for flavor. Blend it up and then put it in a cup with a straw. I call it "The Special Shake" DON'T LET THE KIDS SEE YOU MIX IT OR THEY WON'T DRINK IT. I had to take a fake sip so they would drink it. By the end of the day, they were poopin like crazy. It works very well and it does not mess up their digestive track. Good Luck

Teria - posted on 12/31/2009

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most kids dont like prune juice, i gave my nephew prune juice and apple juice mixed. by the next day he was able to go. its the same mix they give in our local hospital. if it doesnt help with it the first 24-48 hours take her to the dr and they will give her something. but i did about 2 sippy cups in one hour then i spaced them out that night. if you give her straight prune juice, yes it will help but it might lead to ALOT of accidents cuz it could give her the runs. good luck and i hope she feels better.

Frances - posted on 12/30/2009

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play a little game when she says she wants to poo i give my grandaughter plenty of grapes and sometimes it works cramberry or prune juice is great to hope she gets alright

Gwen - posted on 12/23/2009

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Rice Milk works like a charm for my daughter because it was the milk protein causing her problems.

Nikki - posted on 12/23/2009

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give her fiber.ceral you no whatever you think that she would eat as long as it has fiber in it.

Doris - posted on 12/23/2009

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Olive Oil works wonders for my daughter. I just include about 1/4 tsp in her liquids thorughout the day. usually by the next day she is pooping smoothly and no longer in pain.

REBEKAH - posted on 12/23/2009

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if she is trying to hold it and does so too long, it will impact and cause pain. you could encourage her to poop two or three times a day, rewarding her each time. this will help her to see pooping as a good thing. if she is getting bored on the toilet, you can give her a special book or toy she can have while she is there to encourage pooping as well.

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I had the same problem with my 3 year old son. When I got him to eat several servings of fruit a day he would poop easily. It wasn't easy to get him to eat that much fruit. I was able to find MonaVie juice and became a distributor for the best price. In the whole 5 months he has been drinking it he has not had a problem pooping one day. I would try to get your daughter to eat a bunch of fruit and see what happens the next day.

Laura - posted on 12/22/2009

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If your doctor doesnt want to help you you should go to different doctors until you find one that will listen to you and help you.

Heather - posted on 12/22/2009

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Quoting Susan:

Have her checked for Celiac to rule it out. Celiac ia gluten intolerance disease. It can cause severe constipation. A simple blood test can tell. If she comes back positive then they will do a biopsy to confirm. My daughter had the same problem and she turned out to have Celiac. It easily controlled by diet (i.e. no wheat or gluten)



Hi Susan its Heather actually I was thinking about celliac because my niece has it and had severe constipation. I asked my doctor if my daughter could be tested she said no she said if it were celliac she would have loose bwels. I talked to my sister in law and she said my niece was constipated because of celliac.  I may actually make an appointment with my doctor and  demand some tests. We are all suffering everytime Kyra needs to poop.

Melissa - posted on 12/21/2009

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mix prune juice with her milk in a sippy cup once or twice a week more fruit my pediatrician said can make them go alot more during the week

Mary - posted on 12/21/2009

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my son had the same problem i took him to the doctors and they did a colonoscopy they had him take miralax for a while i gave that to him for a while and it eventually loosened his bowels every so often it will get a little hard.

Susan - posted on 12/21/2009

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Have her checked for Celiac to rule it out. Celiac ia gluten intolerance disease. It can cause severe constipation. A simple blood test can tell. If she comes back positive then they will do a biopsy to confirm. My daughter had the same problem and she turned out to have Celiac. It easily controlled by diet (i.e. no wheat or gluten)

Miranda - posted on 12/21/2009

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If you think about it, if she is trying to hold it, eventually it would just come out on its own. Now my 4 year old (almost 5) tries to push hers out and once I even seen blood in her stool and on her actual, you know,,,, So I have the opposite problem...weird.
I know prune juice used to make my girls poop real healthy, but if you are giving her 3+ laxatives and she still can't go, those doctors are crazy. Maybe you should see an IBS specialist of some type. I def. wouldn't take your doctors word for it if you feel its not the right diagnoses. Your her mother you know when somethings ACTUALLY wrong.

Laura - posted on 12/21/2009

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Ok so I read this earlier but wanted to talk to one of my friends before posting a reply. I have a friend that went through lots of problems with severe constipation with her daughter and having a lot of pain when time to poo. I asked her for some advice and this is what she said (with a little editing). You should look into seeing a GI specialist if this is a persistent problem.
Quote from my friend:
After a lot of work she found out that her daughter was wheat intollerant. She wasn't allergic, but consuming wheat caused constipation. This is VERY common to have a food intollerance cause constipation. The top allergins are Milk, corn, soy and wheat.
With that being said, she had gotten so constipated that she started holding it because it always hurt to potty. We had to get her totally cleaned out, her bowels were FILLED totally per the x-ray. We used several meds and ennemas under the direction of the GI specialist Dr. V. Then you have to use a laxative of some sort to keep the BM soft to retrain them that it doesn't always hurt. DR. V said it would take up to 6 months to retrain. Keep the meds at a level to keep them solid but soft.
We used Miralax but then I started using Intestinal Cleanse # 3 and it works so much better and is much more natural. I also use Goji berry juice for maintance, it tastes great.
Hope that helps.

Cristina - posted on 12/21/2009

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Lot's of foods that have fiber in them, veggies, fruits, you just have to see what's best for her. Prunes for snacks.
She might be a bit lactose intolerant, have you checked her for that? You might have to change her eating habits, I would hold off on the laxatives, and maybe get suppositories at the drugstore, have her drink more water and less fruit juices like apple or grape, also give her lots of oatmeal in the morning every morning with a good glass of water, amounts for a five year old, the oatmeal always helps loosen the stool.
The reason she might be holding it, just might be that she knows that it will hurt if she goes, just keep on top of it, her diet, she might just need to eat other foods.
Good luck.
Oh Also a teaspoon of olive oil in the morning on an empty stomach, worked for me when I was prego and extremely contipated, due to the meds I took.

Renee - posted on 12/21/2009

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She should drink more water - she sounds dehydrated. Stool softeners are better than laxatives. Water water water. I would try to hold it too if it hurt so much. She doesn't understand that at her age. Did the doctor approve the laxatives, I've never resorted to that with my daugher, just water (you can make it lukewarm which does help alot). Grape juice diluted too.

Heather - posted on 12/21/2009

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Thanks for the suggestions I have tried lots of apple juice, water, high fiber but nothing works until I give her laxative for about 2 days. She won't drink prune juice. I have tryed all kinds of things.

Tamara - posted on 12/21/2009

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I'd be sure that the Dr. has thoroughly checked her out first and is not assuming that you are an over reactive mom. My health care experiance tells me that if a mom is doing all she's knows to do and you sense that your child is truly having pain then get her checked immediatly to rule out serious conditions like obstructed twisted, or punctured bowel, or severe constipation! Other wise be sure the child drinks lots and talk to the child (discretely) to rule out foul play.

Rosemary - posted on 12/21/2009

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stool softners may help and a diet that is sensative to helping her be regular

Joanne - posted on 12/21/2009

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Hi,

My eldest son had this problem at about 18 months of age, firstly think back has anything happened while she's been on the toilet that may have frigtened her? If not then it now being painfull will stop her from going on her own. I dont know wether you are in the U.K or across the pond but i used syrup of figgs, lots of fruit and fruit juice and plenty of chocolate she'll love that. I was given lactulose and senna by the doctor but i wanted something natural. These worked for me good luck

Jo

Jennifer - posted on 12/21/2009

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i hear that aloe vera juice can help, along with making sure that she is drinking lots of water, if you cant get her to drink lots of water, miralax can be put in her juice, water, or milk to add fluid into her bowels and help her have less hard movements. good luck

Can - posted on 12/21/2009

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I found corn wants to race through the body. Feed her corn as much as she wants with butter. If she has no other problems then she needs to learn the poop is the waste of her body and her body is a good machine so have her relax, it is just doing it's job.

Tonya - posted on 12/21/2009

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Although my son is not even two yet he has always had a hard time to be regular. The doctors gave me a laxative and told me to give it to him daily. I later told his doctor I didn't feel right giving him that everyday and he told me that if I didn't and my son didn't stay regular on his own then he would hold it until he'd hurt. Well, as moms seem to know what best for their own kids, I still didn't give him that laxative, I actually threw it away. Instead, I give him all kinds of juices especially prune, apple, and orange. They seem to be his favorite anyway. Prune juice really helps him a lot, I have to watch to make sure not to give him too much, coz then we go the other way around... But anyways, I sugguest to give her prune and apple juice daily and maybe you could try that yogurt for kids "Yo Baby" to help regulate her. My son doesn't like the flavors though, so I'm not sure if it'll work or not but I have a friend and her son eats it daily.



So just give her a couple of cups of prune juice one day soon and then ease off the next day to a cup or maybe just half a cup ....just watch how shes doing. Make sure not to give her much cheese or anything else that bounds her up. My son is horrible on cheese, that stuff seems to kill him. I hope I helped. (:

Karin - posted on 12/21/2009

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does she eat a lot of cheese? This could be the problem! I have heard that warm sugar water will get the bowels moving! Also my husband is hispanic and they swear by pickle juice, I have never personally tried that approach yet. Just make sure she stays very hydrated the more water goes in the softer the stuff coming out! Good Luck I hope you find something that works!

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Friends kid had that problem at the same age (started earlier). Lots of liquids and fiber helps, try prune juice. Problem is, if it hurts, they won't go, if they don't go, it will hurt more later as their stool gets harder and larger . . . problem can get worse. My friend had to resort to enemas and laxatives for a while (at directions of the doctor) to break the cycle. Keep on it with the doc - this could also be caused by something different: food allergies, illness, etc.

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