please help! All I do is breastfeed!!

Jessica - posted on 12/10/2009 ( 71 moms have responded )

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Vance is 7wks old and all I do is breastfeed him. He will nurse for about 15 min fall asleep and when i go to lay him down he wakes up and starts fussin like he is still hungry! This can go on for hours and hours!



Also he can nurse on both breast for 30+ minutes and pull himself off and get mad and still acts hungry but refuse my breast?? After about 10 minutes I get him calmed down enough to latch back on but he still might fuss or cry while nursing and then fall asleep but again if I lay hin down he wakes up and acts like hes hungry?? I always read that it gets easier at about 6 wks but Im not seeing it.

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Quoting Dana:

If he is not getting enough with breast feeding you need to start him on formula with cereal mixed in. The doctors would have a fit, but he obviously is not getting what he needs through breast milk only. I am not an expert, I never successfully breast feed, I struggled for 2 weeks and gave up. Breast feeding is specifically for passing antibodies to the baby from the mother for immune system strength. I do not remember the exact number of weeks, but your son obviously needs more than he is getting.


This is wrong, wrong, wrong. There is absolutely no reason to believe he isn't getting enough. He is gaining weight on just the breastmilk. Fussiness is absolutely no indicator.



The gas, reflux, a growth spurt (even all three at once!) are the likely culprets. For answers to most breastfeeding questions, you can check out www.kellymom.com. It is the *best* site for breastfeeding questions.



Keep up the good work, mom! Personally, for me, the "getting easier" part happened between 8 and 12 weeks and it was gradual. It wasn't like one day I woke up and everything was easy. Now my baby is 6 months old and I can't believe how easy it is. There is almost no effort at all! You will get there, too.



Also, breastfeeding is *far* more than passing on antibodies. Dana, I hope that you read up a bit more on breastfeeding before giving advice to other women about it. It sounds like you have a lot of misconceptions and misinformation. These are not the things that should be passed on to women who are trying to make breastfeeding work.

Nicole - posted on 12/14/2009

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nursing to be pacified is just as much a valid need as hunger. feeling like a cow? pffft! mothering is not a convenience based job. babies need to be nursed on demand- they don't have a concept of time and aren't cute accessories that can be put away when we are tired of them not to mention their tiny stomachs... they require very very frequent small meals.

Betsy - posted on 12/10/2009

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If he is eating well and gaining weight, it may be gas. It is very common for infants to act hungry, even try to eat, when they are actually gassy and uncomfortable. They can confuse the uncomfortable feeling with hunger feelings. Make sure he is burping well, and watch for other signs such as pulling his legs up.

Aubrey - posted on 12/16/2009

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My son will be 11 months old on the 16th and I have been breastfeeding him since day one. He was VERY gassy right form the get go and he also had alot of reflux. It took time to get into a rythym that we both could do and sometimes he would feed like every 45 mins it seemed and then others it would be every hour and a half. I think a lot of the fussyness when you put him down is him just wanting to be close to you. But on the other hand he reflux-gas combo makes them VERY cranky. Hang in there it get soooo much easier and it will real soon. Youre doing great!!

Madilyn - posted on 12/15/2009

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Breastfeeding is meant for FEEDING YOUR BABY. I have given my baby ONLY breast milk for 7 months and he is a happy, healthy 20 lb baby.

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Jessica - posted on 12/15/2009

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Quoting Madilyn:

Breastfeeding is meant for FEEDING YOUR BABY. I have given my baby ONLY breast milk for 7 months and he is a happy, healthy 20 lb baby.


ATTENTION EVERYONE!!!!!!



I have an announcement to make!!  Not only has Madilyn discovered the seceret of breastfeeding she has managed to raise a 7month old healthy baby??  What??  Wow.. How many moms can say that??   



So in honor of her outstanding accomplishments I am awarding her mom of the year Congratulations Madilyn!   



Thank you so much for sharing your breastfeeding secret with me, I really had no idea that breastfeeding was meant to ":FEED MY BABY!'??  

Stefanie - posted on 12/14/2009

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Quoting Kate:



Quoting Sherry:

If he is doing well in all other areas, then he is just "pacifying". You are the mom, you set the schedule. If not he will and like you are....feeling like a cow. Good luck!!





At this age, babies should be fed on demand. Babies don't know about schedules, they just know when they are hungry and when they need comfort.





 



Oh so true! My son is almost four months old and FINALLY has a schedule. At night. LOL!



 



But Jessica, it does sound like a mix of gas and the fact that you're his pacifier.

Sarah - posted on 12/14/2009

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Have you tried infant massage? It really helps to relax them when they are fussing, is a great way of getting skin to skin contact and can help to get the wind out of their system if you massage their tummy in clockwise circles.



Also I found carrying my babies in a sling was very settling for them. They like the movement and the closeness



Don't forget breastfeeding is a skill which needs to be learned by you and the baby together. It's worth persevering with. Good luck.

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Quoting Dana:

If he is not getting enough with breast feeding you need to start him on formula with cereal mixed in. The doctors would have a fit, but he obviously is not getting what he needs through breast milk only. I am not an expert, I never successfully breast feed, I struggled for 2 weeks and gave up. Breast feeding is specifically for passing antibodies to the baby from the mother for immune system strength. I do not remember the exact number of weeks, but your son obviously needs more than he is getting.


How old are you! This is the 21st century, mama. AAP recommends breastmilk or formula for the first 6 months. She does NOT need to give rice cereal or formula. She is capable of supplying what her baby needs. You should think before you speak because obviously you don't have any idea as to what you're talking about.. like you said. And breastfeeding is not "specifically for passing antibodies", it is for nourishment the antibodies are just a extra benefit.

Megan - posted on 12/14/2009

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Also when I was breastfeeding I also gave him a bottle of two of formula! Maybe try that but if you are against formula don't do it. I would just contact your doc if you are very worried. Listen to these other momma who have breastfed though because I only did it for a few weeks!

Denise - posted on 12/14/2009

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If Vance kicks while feeding, he is probably gassy. What you eat has a lot to do with it, however, there may be something medically wrong. If this has continued since you gave birth, let your pediatrician know as soon as possible. He/she should be able to give you some good advice.

Rochelle - posted on 12/14/2009

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you might not have a very good suppy off milk if this keeps going on mayby u shld try and top him u with a bottle but still breast feed he might settle betta or he might just have really bad pains in his belly if u r not eating the right food it could be causeing a upset belly

Nicole - posted on 12/14/2009

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this is totally normal. it is called cluster feeding and it happens at major growth spurts. my fourteen month old still nurses every hour or two most days. oh and co-sleeping is a life saver- you sleep, baby eats the force is balanced.

Megan - posted on 12/14/2009

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Honey I give you props. I didn't breastfeed with my first but tried with my second and I lasted I think 3 weeks. I just felt so gross and depressed and then I got mastitis (infection in breast) and after that I called it quits. Keep it up if you can but if you feel like you need to go to formula don't feel bad and be happy that you tried. if is all up to you and how you feel. I felt so much better after I stopped and my best friend had her baby a week before me and after I stopped a week later she stopped because she was feeling the same way. I felt the same way as you though..I felt like I was always pumping, (i pumped instead of having him latch on) Hang in there or stop if that is what will make you feel better. !!

Robin - posted on 12/14/2009

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I went through the same thing with my youngest and at 4 weeks her dr put her on rice cereal. She was nursing fine but was gaining to much weight, about a pound and a half a week, due to nursing to much. after I started feeding her the cereal she would nurse and sleep well and her weight gain slowed to normal limits.

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Quoting Sherry:

If he is doing well in all other areas, then he is just "pacifying". You are the mom, you set the schedule. If not he will and like you are....feeling like a cow. Good luck!!


At this age, babies should be fed on demand. Babies don't know about schedules, they just know when they are hungry and when they need comfort.

Sherry - posted on 12/13/2009

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If he is doing well in all other areas, then he is just "pacifying". You are the mom, you set the schedule. If not he will and like you are....feeling like a cow. Good luck!!

Karen - posted on 12/13/2009

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I had to go get help because my twins would nurse for hours at a time and not seem to get their fill. After that, I nursed them every three hours (until they reached 10 lbs.) around the clock for only 20 minutes at a time. Then I would supplement with 1 to 2 oz. of formula if they were still hungry. They get the idea fairly quickly and gained weight right away. My sanity also improved greatly after the first few days of trying this. Good luck, and don't give up on nursing!

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I breastfed 2 kids, who are now 20 and 15. I loved it. I nursed them on demand by the end of the 3rd month they created their own schedule, which was approximately every 3 hours. The reason some women feel that they nurse forever is because when they put the baby next to their breast they just let the baby hang out instead of really working/eating. Babies usually fall asleep next to the breast. Once the baby is placed next to your breast, you should wake the baby up by taking your index finger and tap the cheeck. Do not allow the baby to just hang out. :) Good Luck

Angela - posted on 12/13/2009

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My daughter was the same way, what i called a snacker and a napper, with the occasional full feed chucked in, she would refuse to sleep unless she was on the breast and at one stage i didn't sleep for three days. You need help, because he probably wont like a pacifier either, every chance you get, get someone else to look after him for an hour or two so you can catch up on sleep and it will pass. Form a good night routine now and when hes old enough he'll sleep thru the night and you'll have your breasts back, well at least thru the night. Hope this helps

Shaleni - posted on 12/12/2009

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Breast feeding is the best thing that you could do for your baby. However, every 2 hours is normal. Is he getting enough? Maybe when he latches on, he is sucking for comfort not because he is hungry. Maybe you should introduce a nuk. I breast fed my first daughter for 13 months and she stopped on her own. I feel guilty because I could not breastfeed my second daughter because she was a premee and was kept in the hospital for 5 days while I was sent home. It was the hardest thing I had to do, but I was expressing milk twice per day and sending it with my husband before I go to see her. She was still able to get what she needed from my breast milk. Be a little patient and hopefully it should get better.



Good luck!

Nancy - posted on 12/12/2009

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I agree with Patricia that the swing at high speed and the vacuum works! Jaeden would stop crying and start sleeping with that =)

Patricia - posted on 12/12/2009

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I heard it all and read about it all when I was having trouble with mine. Here's what I suggest. Again it is a lot easier to do the "Happiest baby on the block" techniques to sooth the baby and if it works, GREAT. Like after a full feeding, when baby is fussy and not falling asleep, swaddle, use pacifier if you choose to, if baby is still upset or crying, add all the other tips, etc... If it works you don't have to go through all the dietary restrictions, the mylicon (which has not been proven in studies to be effective for "colic". It might help with lots of gas but there's no proof that "colic" is due to gas or pain like I said in my earlier post.) the supplementing, the wondering if you have enough milk, the rice cereal (DON'T do it! :) ) And like the book says, don't underestimate the swing speed necessary to be effective, and the loudness of the white noise :) When my daughter was screaming and unable to fall asleep, nothing less than the loudness of the vacuum being turned on in close proximity, and the swing on the highest setting, was effective to sooth her and put her to sleep. Keep that in mind all you moms with colicky babies.

Lots of luck!

Nancy - posted on 12/12/2009

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my baby is 11 months now...but when he was about a month old (still at the hospital since he was premie) I noticed he would act weird every time he ate. I asked everyone and for the next 3 months everyone said it was just gas. He wouldn't sleep, he would cry alot, he would stretch while crying, and I could see he was in pain. I took him to the doctor again and I told them I wasn't leaving til he was checked and they found out what was wrong with him. They sent us to get a scan and they found out he had reflux and colic. He started with medication, I changed the bottles and the formula, I would feed him almost sitting up, I would burp him for a bit longer and keep him in that position for a while, etc. It didn't go away completely til he was about 6 months or so. Maybe that's what is happening to your baby. You can notice a different cry for hunger and a stronger one when he is in pain. I hope he gets better soon and that you get a rest!!! I know how it is to do nothing but breastfeed...it is exhausting! but it will get better, I promise. God bless you.

Christina-Lance - posted on 12/12/2009

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Hello love, Sounds like you have a GREAT nurser on your hands. He very well could be in the midst of a growth spurt, it will pass. I had several issues with my little one early on. One was GAS! I burped her OFTEN and for what felt like FOREVER, GAS-DROPS! My Dr told me to give them to her at 2weeks. Forget the whole wait until 8 weeks! It is gentle and safe and babies love the taste, after the first week or so. In fact, My LO is almost 7 months old and she opens wide for gas-drops, not anything else, except me, lol!



Oh, it also sounds like he is using you as his pacifier! It will not hurt him to fuss some when you lay him back down. You on the other hand, might cry along with him if you let him cry for longer than a minute, thats ok too. One thing I did was give her the Soothie Pacifier! WE LOVE IT! She LOVES it too! In fact, we got her a WubbaNub! She has two and will be getting an ew one for Christmas..... anyway. Try one! I call them sanity savers, mine!



Ok, he is probably getting chilly when you lay him down too and its waking him up. Try wrapping him in a light receiving blanket while you nurse him and lay him down on it. That way he stays nice and toasty! My LO, that is THE ONLY way I can lay her down! She MUST be warm and stay warm! Oh, try putting one of your used breatpads in his bed, near his face, so he can smell you. I KNOW! It sounds crazy, but it WORKS!



Listen, you are doing a GREAT job! I am VERY proud of you! He is a beautiful boy and growing well! Don't give up! It really does get easier! Now at night, my LO will wake up to nurse for a few minutes, EARLY, and I lay her in bed with us and she finds the boob all on her own! She makes the most ADORABLE sounds when she hears the click of my bra! You will get there too! It takes time. You are both learning. In about 3-4 weeks you won't even remember this. Can't wait to hear how great y'all are doing! Keep up the great job mom! You are awesome!!!!!

Shelly - posted on 12/11/2009

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My daughter was exactly the same way and I found out she had acid reflux. She would cry the minute she realized she was no longer attached. I later realized the things I ate would make things worse for her. For the longest time it seemed the only time she would not cry is when I was nursing. After I stopped nursing I found out formula set off her acid reflux so she ended up on soy milk. She was much happier then. Talk to your pediatrician. If you have one that treats you like you don't know what you are talking about, especially if you are a FIRST TIME PARENT, find a new one. I hated hearing that. You are with your child, you know when something is not right so trust your instincts.

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Quoting Dana:

If he is not getting enough with breast feeding you need to start him on formula with cereal mixed in. The doctors would have a fit, but he obviously is not getting what he needs through breast milk only. I am not an expert, I never successfully breast feed, I struggled for 2 weeks and gave up. Breast feeding is specifically for passing antibodies to the baby from the mother for immune system strength. I do not remember the exact number of weeks, but your son obviously needs more than he is getting.


I went through this with my daughter too, she just wanted to be close to me all the time. I know its hard to have a baby nursing all day but it the long run you will cherish the time you spent nursing. It sounds like you are doing a great job!!!!! Keep up the good work!



As for formula with cereal, please do not do that. Replacing breastmilk with formula at all will decrease your supply and eventually be the end of breastfeeding. Cereal is not ment to be given to a baby that small, their under developed bellies are not made for that.



I agree with the other moms, for me it took about 8 weeks to get the hang of breastfeeding, it was definitely a challenge but after that it was a breeze and I am soooo happy that I breastfed. You will be too :o)

Summer - posted on 12/11/2009

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I had a problem with that as well with my son. Your ducts might be clogged. Take a hot shower and just let the hot water fall on ur chest area. Try pumping as well. In the meantime, feed him fomula. Start with 4oz.

Stephanie - posted on 12/11/2009

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Try Mylacon. My son lived on the stuff. He was a very gassy baby, and that was partly because I wasn't eating right.

Wanda - posted on 12/11/2009

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Quoting Dana:

If he is not getting enough with breast feeding you need to start him on formula with cereal mixed in. The doctors would have a fit, but he obviously is not getting what he needs through breast milk only. I am not an expert, I never successfully breast feed, I struggled for 2 weeks and gave up. Breast feeding is specifically for passing antibodies to the baby from the mother for immune system strength. I do not remember the exact number of weeks, but your son obviously needs more than he is getting.


This baby is getting what he needs from breast feeding, but it is NOT a good idea to feed cereal to a baby that small. Sounds as if he is getting full of wind and mum is not experienced yet and doesn't bring it all up. I have reared three children to adulthood and have tried a variety of things with my children and I can honestly say that colic is one of the worst things to deal with. My son had it for 9 months!!!

Brandi - posted on 12/11/2009

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you may not be producing enough milk. if you want you can try to suppliment twice a day, to see if that helps. i have a 15 month old and at about two months he started the same thing. when i supplemented it help. that was the last thing i wanted to do, i wanted him to have nothing but breast milk. good luck,hope you find something that works.

Wanda - posted on 12/11/2009

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Make sure you bring up his wind regularly, because that will make him feel full. Does he draw his knees up when he yells? - if he does then that is definitely wind.Make up a solution of weak camomile tea each day and keep some handy in a little bottle for when he is yelling as this will help relax the stomach muscles and bring up the wind. Also make sure his is gaining weight because if he isn't then you may need to supplement his feeds. But if you are really worried then go to a clinic or see your family doctor.

Lanae - posted on 12/11/2009

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Jessica-I'm sorry ur going thru this, I did too, and I kno how hard it is. But it will just get easier is all I can say. Breastfeeding is the best and I think it's too early for cereal-idk, ask ur dr. I def would not put cereal in a bottle. My son is 3 now and for the first year I was exhausted, he breastfed until he was one yr and three days. It's a long haul, but so beneficial for you both and your bond as well!- the mylicon and gentle naturals stuff is good, ask ur dr ya kno- and my son was gassy too, we would take his feet in our hands and gently bend his knees in to his belly and then extend his legs and repeat, this seemed to help relieve him several times. Good Luck!

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Quoting Dana:

If he is not getting enough with breast feeding you need to start him on formula with cereal mixed in. The doctors would have a fit, but he obviously is not getting what he needs through breast milk only. I am not an expert, I never successfully breast feed, I struggled for 2 weeks and gave up. Breast feeding is specifically for passing antibodies to the baby from the mother for immune system strength. I do not remember the exact number of weeks, but your son obviously needs more than he is getting.


He is gaining weight wonderfully so why would you assume that he is not getting what he needs from breastmilk?  Doctors would have a fit because you are not supposed to put cereal in a bottle!  A breastfed baby digests breastmilk efficiently and much quicker than formula which is why they must be fed more frequently; not because they are not getting enough.

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I went through a hard time with my son when he was a newborn that he would take 2 hours to eat because he would fall asleep. My advice is to make sure you strip him down when you go to feed him keeping him a little uncomfortable will help keep him awake to eat and if he does start falling asleep flick his feet. Make sure you keep him upright for at least 15mins after he eats that reduces the risk of him getting acid reflux. And burp him well my son would burp and I'd think that was it but if I kept him upright and kept rubbing his back he would burp a few more times.

Good luck and sleep every chance you get. Even if that means skipping a shower.

Dana - posted on 12/11/2009

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If he is not getting enough with breast feeding you need to start him on formula with cereal mixed in. The doctors would have a fit, but he obviously is not getting what he needs through breast milk only. I am not an expert, I never successfully breast feed, I struggled for 2 weeks and gave up. Breast feeding is specifically for passing antibodies to the baby from the mother for immune system strength. I do not remember the exact number of weeks, but your son obviously needs more than he is getting.

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Hi Jessica, sorry you are having trouble with little Vance. Some little boogers are more difficult than others! I have three boys ages 12, 4, and 2. I breastfed the first for 3 years, the second for 17 months (I would have longer but I was pregnant and my milk dried up). The last one is still breastfed. They were all different, but my second was alot like Vance. It seemed like all I did all day was feed him and change him. I asked my doctor and he said as long as he was gaining weight, he was getting plenty to eat. I would feed him until he would pull off. If he was still acting hungry I would try letting someone else hold him or giving him a bath. Try to get him thinking about something else. They say babies can smell their mothers milk and I think that's true because alot of times he was still wanting to nurse and his dad or grandma would take him in another room and he would calm right down. Anyway hang in there, you will see him change alot in the next few weeks. Good luck!

Kacee - posted on 12/11/2009

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I felt like that with my LO. Ended up that I didn't have the supply that he needed (I only produce from one side) We do give him formula supplement during the day (while I am at work...I stopped producing for the pump) but he is exclusive BF while I am at home. He is going on 6 months and I love nursing him when I get home! It does get better, but him being around 6-8 weeks, I would prolly guess that he is in a growth spurt. That's when mine had to get supplements (he was also projectile spitting up...so we had to thicken his milk up for a while) It does get better. I agree with the other moms, Contact your La Lache group. Or talk to your ped about him nursing so much. Keep up the good work!!!

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Quoting Betsy:



Quoting jessica:




Quoting Betsy:

If he is eating well and gaining weight, it may be gas. It is very common for infants to act hungry, even try to eat, when they are actually gassy and uncomfortable. They can confuse the uncomfortable feeling with hunger feelings. Make sure he is burping well, and watch for other signs such as pulling his legs up.







hmmm....this  could be the problem  he seems to be very gassy.  He is always  kicking his legs during these times?  I dont know if thats what you mean?  But he always has gas,  Could it be something Im eating? 









When you're breastfeeding it's very important to watch what you eat. There are lists of foods to avoid and you could find them online (some are spicy foods, foods that cause you gas such as broccoli) and also caffeine is a big contributor to stomach discomfort. Some experts say 1-2 cups of coffee, tea, or soda is ok and shouldn't cause a problem, but anymore than that and the baby can't process it like we do. I have started giving my son "Gentle Naturals Tummy  Soother" and it seems to work so far - but it's only been 2 days. I had been giving him Mylicon after each feeding and it worked ok, but he still seemed to be having discomfort. The Gentle Naturals stuff is just chamomile and ginger and I think it may be helping him sleep! Good luck to you!!





I have been told to watch what I eat, too, but at the same time you need a balanced diet... Got to La Leche League website and there is more details there.

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My son will do this sometimes, too. I started using a pacifier with him, and it has done wonders! Also started using Mylicon for gas, and that helped even more. Sometimes when mine fusses and un latches, I burp him for about 5 min eventhough he will be crying to get back on I make him wait til he burps and he calms right down after he does.

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Each baby is so different, the baby books give general guidelines but they are not exact. I agree with one of the other moms, call La Leche and see a lactation consultant. What you're doing for your son is very important, don't give up!

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Quoting Betsy:

If he is eating well and gaining weight, it may be gas. It is very common for infants to act hungry, even try to eat, when they are actually gassy and uncomfortable. They can confuse the uncomfortable feeling with hunger feelings. Make sure he is burping well, and watch for other signs such as pulling his legs up.





hmmm....this  could be the problem  he seems to be very gassy.  He is always  kicking his legs during these times?  I dont know if thats what you mean?  But he always has gas,  Could it be something Im eating? 





When you're breastfeeding it's very important to watch what you eat. There are lists of foods to avoid and you could find them online (some are spicy foods, foods that cause you gas such as broccoli) and also caffeine is a big contributor to stomach discomfort. Some experts say 1-2 cups of coffee, tea, or soda is ok and shouldn't cause a problem, but anymore than that and the baby can't process it like we do. I have started giving my son "Gentle Naturals Tummy  Soother" and it seems to work so far - but it's only been 2 days. I had been giving him Mylicon after each feeding and it worked ok, but he still seemed to be having discomfort. The Gentle Naturals stuff is just chamomile and ginger and I think it may be helping him sleep! Good luck to you!!

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You might want to get in contact with your local La Leche League. I could always count on sound, good advice for any issues I had while breastfeeding. They are the best!!!!! And this might sound weird, but they know more about breastfeeding than doctors. They have more training. So, my advice is to get in touch with La Leche League. Good luck! And whatever you do...DON"T GIVE YOUR BABY FORMULA (if you want to continue breastfeeding)!!!!!!!

Jessica - posted on 12/11/2009

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it could be that your son has a bit of wind or colic, apparently the sucking action or motion actually makes them feel better because they are trying to sooth themselves, but because they are still sucking down milk its making it worse, try just giving him a pacifer instead and see how he goes, as for the wind once he is 8 weeks old you can give him something before each feed to help him bring up wind, i would also suggest burping him regulary,

If its none of those things, it could be that your breast milk isnt filling him up enough or for long enough and he is actually still hungry, therefore i would talk with your doctor they may suggest to top him up with a bit of formula aswell.

good luck

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Quoting Sara:



Quoting Renae:

This may not be the problem, but I think its worth checking, is he getting a proper let down? Do you know how to tell?

When he is gulping in a slow and steady rhythm and going breathe-suck-swallow-breathe-suck-swallow then he has a let down. If he is going suck-suck-suck-suck-swallow and sucking very fast then he is trying for a let down but your body is not doing it. Have you tried giving him a bottle to see how much he will drink? If he will have a full feed from a bottle (i.e. enough to last him a few hours before he is hungry again) then you may have a supply issue.

The other possibility is colic or reflux. Both of these cause babies to only drink a small amount, then still be hungry and cry to be fed, but then refuse to feed.

When you say he fusses like he is still hungry, what is he doing? Is he eating his hand? Mouthing for the breast? Those sort of classic hungry signs or is he doing something else that might not mean hungry? Sometimes babies just want to suck, like if they have wind pain, they want to suck for comfort, but are not actually hungry so you get this "feed me feed me I need to suck", then pull away "no no I don't want to drink" thing going on which goes around in circles. Does that sound like what's happening? I mention this because it is unlikely for him to still be hungry after 30 min feeding from both sides, unless you have a supply problem. (Does he take a pacifier to give him something else to suck on?)

It might be a good idea to see a lactation consultant, have him weighed before and after a 15 min feed and see how much milk he is drinking. Then you will know whether he is getting enough and whether he is infact hungry or just looking for comfort.





At 7 weeks and it sounds like he's gaining weight I doubt there is a supply problem.  I think that moms are told this too often and then they start to freak out.  My daughter would sometimes nurse for an hour straight at that age.  Breastmilk is digested in about an hour which is why breastfed babies need to nurse frequently.  Don't nurse by the clock.  Pulling baby off of a breast before it's properly emptied will lead to a foremilk/hindmilk imbalance which will cause green poos and gas.  Also, letting baby use you as a pacifier can only help you maintain a healthy supply. Renea, I think you gave some good info, but I don't want the OP to think that there is a supply issue when that doesn't seem to be the case.  A lactation consultant is always a good source of info.  You can usually find one at the hospital where you delivered.






Hi Sara,



I agree with everything you said. However myself and a couple other mums I know had supply issues, even though our babies were gaining weight and didn't realise it for a long time because nobody explained how to tell if the baby has a let down. Our babies got what they needed in the long run, but only from round the clock feeding day and night with no chance for mum to get more than an hours sleep a day. Once I learnt about supply it was clear why my baby was feeding constantly, he wasn't getting anything! But since he was gaining weight perfectly, nobody thought to give me information about supply. So I guess I'm just making sure the same thing isn't happening here. If I had seen a lactation consultant sooner my baby and I wouldn't have gotten so desperately sleep deprived.  

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does he do it at all hours or just certain hours of the day? don't worry about your milk supply if he is gaining weight. try a dummy, he might be using you as his dummy. also give him a good burping. most babies outgrow their gas issues by around 4 months. i found breasfeeding only got easier after about 8 weeks... we are still going strong at 6 months. good luck!!

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I know how you feel... After two weeks of it with my now 1 year old I gave up...lol
My now 3 month old I lasted about a month only because I felt like he wasnt getting enough so I put him on the bottle. I went through the same situation with my 3 month old. I would try to breastfeed him and when he would refuse or le go after a minute, I would give him the bottle. That was the only other option.

I say if you feel like I felt, then you should give the bottle. You see yourself getting more rest and him as well.

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Quoting jessica:



hmmm....this  could be the problem  he seems to be very gassy.  He is always  kicking his legs during these times?  I dont know if thats what you mean?  But he always has gas,  Could it be something Im eating? 






Hi Jessica



 



Hope your little one is doing better!



It could very well be something you are eating. Remember that, in a very real sense, when you are breastfeeding "what you eat is what your baby drinks". So, foods that make you feel gassy and bloated, will probably have the same effect on your baby. Try avoiding brocolli, cauliflower, beans, bread made with yeast, sodas, etc.



My premie was very hungry for the first 2 or 3 months and nursed for about 45 mins every 2 hours (mainly because he wasn't strong enough to suck hard). But after a while he got better at it (and less colicky) and we managed to keep going for nearly 18 months! :)



Keep up the good work! Breastfeeding is a wonderful and rewarding experience.

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I felt like I was nursing all the time too! Turns out my son was just a big eater and he was smaller than your baby is. He also had gas so I gave him drops and they worked wonders.

I started pumping in-between feedings at about 4 weeks and stored the milk. That way, I could help increase my supply and save some up. After 8 weeks I introduced a bottle(make sure it has a nipple similar to yours and is one your baby likes, every woman and baby is different). the first few bottles I gave him I recorded the number of oz he was drinking to ease my fear that he wasn't getting enough. I tried to nurse whenever possible, but it was nice for my fiance to be able to get up and feed him to give me a break every now and then.

I'm soo glad that more and more moms are nursing and are supportive of each other doing it. It's a special bond between mother and child I feel like a lot of people are missing out on. I know there are special circumstances but I encourage all moms to at least give it a shot.

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It does sound like gas my bub was the same.. hes almost 8 weeks now and is so much better. He was 8 pound at birth. your doing a good job.. I found some wind drops helped my little one also.

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Wow, from the sound of it he's gaining enough weight. Big baby!! It sounds a lot like wind to me. I had a bit of trouble like this with my first because I wasn't burping enough. Also, with sleepy baby (falling asleep after a few minutes), there are a few things you can do to keep it going. Such as tickling the feet, dab with cool washcloth, wriggling the arm, tickling under the chin. I had to do that a lot with my first also because he would fall asleep after about 10 minutes.

Learning your baby's cries will help a lot too. Look up Dunstan Baby Language. There are 5 different cries (hungry, sleepy, dirty nappy, burp and lower wind) and once you hear them you'll be amased at how much easier life is (and how much less stressed you feel). Also, "Happiest Baby on the Block" is a good book.

Good luck!

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Girlfriend...thats usually how it is but I promise as a mother of 4 breastfed babies it will get better once they can eat a lil something...seemed like to me as well that they always stood hungry n I was exhausted trying to fill a stomach with a hole seemed like...so for my last baby whos now 2 n still breastfeeding I supplement with organic formula...I had to do something my baby was hungry...Breastfeeding Rocks...dont give Up stay positive...its the best thing for your baby n we must feed them on demand theyre the boss...for the moment...lol..Good luck Be encouraged!
~Anne

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