Pregnant Smokers

Hannah - posted on 05/14/2009 ( 177 moms have responded )

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How can some Mamas think that this is OK to smoke when they are pregnant? I do not understand this.

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Keegan - posted on 02/09/2013

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I am 7months pregnant and I just found out I was pregnant last month January2013 and I smoked the first 7months because I didn't know I wad pregnant I don't justify smoking while pregnant but my dr said sence I smoked heavy though the first 7months thatbif I quit it would put my baby in more harm .my mother smoked though all eight of my bros and sis pregnancy and no problems but you should try to quit but talk to your dr and all you people who want to judge go ahead but know I want what is best for my baby its your choice and if yu try your best to quit then whos to say your a bad person fuck all the haters you people have nothing better to do then make people fill like shit at least the woman is trying to quit my baby is very healthy she will be born in march 2013 so just because the government says something doesn't make it true the government lies all the time judge if you must but im not a bad person I have 13year old daughter she was 10lbs9oz when she was born all my babies have ccame normal my dr says my baby is very healthy and big so I will take care of mine and to the women who asked the question you have corage I. Have more respect for you and your sister in law then any of these people who think they know everything .its your body and yourchoice no matter what theese aholes say justblove yourself and take care of you and your baby as you see fit eeveryone else take care of uours and stop judging because if your not in the persons shoes then just keep you thought to your self because if your not a dr your opinion doesn't matter

Samantha - posted on 05/14/2009

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I smoked for 12 years and also enjoyed drinking with friends. When I found out I was pregnant I stopped drinking right away. I cut back on smoking and within one week of knowing I was pregnant (and I was only 4 weeks along) I quit cold turkey. I am appalled by pregnant smokers. I very much understand how hard it can be to stop doing something you've grown accustom to but it's not impossible. I believe each child has the right to be given every chance at a healthy start to life. I'm a firm believer if you are not willing to sacrifice to ensure your baby's health don't get pregnant. I'm mean no disrespect to you Jodi, nor anyone who has or is smoking while pregnant. I know so many people who state, my Mom did it and I'm okay, my friend did it and her baby's okay. It is a proven fact that it can harm a baby. Most people I know who smoke instantly state, "my Mom did it when she was pregnant with me, and I'm fine". It's ironic but most people I know who say that, smoke. It's true my Mom smoked with me and my brother, we both smoked. My husbands Mother, same thing and both her sons smoke. Yet, my stepmom didn't and none of her 3 children smoke. The list goes on and on. I love the example you wouldn't give your newborn a cigeratte to smoke so why give it to them while your pregnant. I have been smoke free and alcohol free for almost 14 months now. I feel great!

As for doctors saying it's better to smoke then not, I've never heard this. My doctors were thrilled when I said I quit smoking. Maybe in some high risk pregnancies cold turkey is not the way to go but every doctor I've met has said quitting is the way to go. I think some people may twist the statement doctors use to excuse their behaviour.

Congrats to all the smoker Mom's that quit! Congrats to anyone who's quitting now! I hope that anyone who is still smoking that it is not in the home, car or anywhere your child is. Again, no disrespect that's just my opinion.

Julie - posted on 05/26/2009

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Wow we are all full of our own opintions. No it is not good to smoke when you are expecting. Then again it also isn't good to breath in the air outside, drink the water from our tap or eat certain food that are full of chemicals. Anyway I smoked while I was pregnant with both my kids. My Dr advised me to cut WAY down. I went from a pack to a pack and a half to 3 a day kinda like breakfast lund and dinner. I personally could not quit I wanted to don't get me wrong cause I knew what I was doing was very bad for my baby. My body and mind just couldn't take quitting. I decided that it was NOT good to put my body and unborn baby throught the horrible stress of quitting. Both my baby's were very healthy. My daughter weighed 7lbs 14oz and my son was 10lbs 1oz. So to say the somking effects weight I have to disagree. Yes, if you smoke a pack a day yes your baby will have medical problems. I have NEVER smoked in my house or around my kids. I can't stand it when I see people smoking in a car with children. It is your choice to smoke but it is not there's to smoke. If you want to smoke be responsible about and take the children into account. They don't need to breath in your smoke. or anyone elses for that matter. Have a great day!!!

Mary - posted on 05/24/2009

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Hannah, You are free to have your opinion but guess what so is everyone else...and in case you didn't notice pretty much everyone agrees that you shouldn't smoke while pregnant but most of us are adult enough to know that what is easy for one person might be pretty hard to another. You can state your opinion without name calling and acting like a child.



I am sorry but like I keep saying I wasn't selfish and I WANTED to quit and I did but gradualy. I take offence to what you are saying because I am a WONDERFUL mother and I LOVE my child. You have no right to judge me because you don't know me....and you don't know every person in the world....If you saw a pregnant mother smoking...how do you know if that is her 1 a day cig or what not. If I knew a mother who smoked and knew what it could do and didn't care...then sure that person is selfish but a mother who is trying her hardest isn't.



No one is perfect....We are all human. I think I recall you saying something about not being perfect thoughout your pregnancy either.....well I don't see anyone judging you. I know not eating healthy or having caffine is different from smoking but hey it is a bad habbit as well.



Oh and my father and grandmother both died of cancer about 5 months apart just last year so you are not the only person to lose someone to cancer...It sucks and you want what is best for you and your child but sometimes a person needs a helping hand and not childish name calling and judgement.

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This note is for you mom's who JUDGE other mom's!!



I do realize what smoking can do to oneself and to a child. I have been blessed because both my boys are very healthy!! However; I believe that this site was created for moms to help moms, not moms to be judged. It is quite sad that women think that because you smoke, you are a terrible mother. I do not think that's the case. Some women can quit and others can't. Please note that I did try quitting for both my boys and it was putting too much stress on the fetus and that is why my doctor told me to have no more than 3 a day ( I also don't see why I need to explain myself...maybe it's time I remove myself from this site, it's not what I thought it would be). As I mentioned, I only had 3/day and not full cigarettes, just enough to curb my craving. I just can't believe how people are so quick to judge, if you have not been in the same shoes, then don't judge. On another note, those who are judging, what gives you the right????

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Collette - posted on 05/27/2009

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Young mothers now don't realize that years ago, smoking was advertised and encouraged. Everyone was doing it, mothers, fathers... yup, it was a very stinky world. I eventually smoked too, 3 packs a day like clock work from the time I was about 13.



I got pregnant and put them down, never bothered to take up smoking again.



The cancer warning on the wrapper? Bah, that is for those other people who get cancer - it didn't mean "me" or my kids or family. My father in law smoked all his life and died of heart failure, COPD and emphysema. His daughter is headed down the same road.



My daughter smoked, her daughter was sick all the time. Once she stopped smoking her baby was much better. My daughter smoked outside, what she failed to understand is that the smoke gets in her hair, clothes and on her hands so the baby is still exposed.



The really funny thing is, she now realizes how bad she stunk, that was the first thing I noticed after I quit too. I wonder how many people would still smoke if they knew how awful the smelled to everyone else around them? LOL



But, we all have to decide for ourselves what is a risk we are willing to take with a life that has no choice in what happens while it is in the womb until it is old enough to make decisions for itself.

Kate - posted on 05/20/2009

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One more thing...there have been mums on this thread that, for some reason, seemed to care about your feelings. They've tried to explain that the reactions aren't personal, just a reaction to your blatant disrespect and intolerance. Why they've tried to spare your feelings I don't know, as it doesn't strike me as something you seem to put a lot of thought into. You must live on a different earth than me..where I live, everyone deserve's compassion even though they dare to make mistakes and even though they don't live up to some's expectations. Compassion is what this world's about and if you ask me...it's something you're seriously lacking.

Kate - posted on 05/20/2009

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I'm quite shocked at the immaturity of some of the "mums". What makes you so special? Nothing that I have noticed...so who appointed you judge and jury? I suppose keep cursiing, at least you're showing your true colours...shocking

Someone really needs to close this stagnant thread, it's going nowhere and it's NOT been respectful, helpful or supportive in any way. I hope you're working on your bigotry and not planning to pass it on to your child? The poor thing...

Emily - posted on 05/20/2009

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Quoting Cat:



Quoting Emily:




Quoting Cat:

stupid people shouldn't breed.








Quoting Cat (Breastfeeding Moms group):








hi. from memory with my first baby i had a few too many drinks once and tried to feed him. he ended up throwing up all over me








 








So it is stupid to smoke while pregnant, but not stupid to drink and breastfeed? 








 








Everyone in the world does things others think are stupid, but everyone makes mistakes, right? What gives you the right to decide who should breed?...I hope you are perfect.









 






smoking throughout your pregnancy is not a mistake it's plain stupid.  






 





I don't know what makes anyone think they have the right to call anyone stupid or say that they shouldn't breed. I can't believe how nasty people are being. I hope that everyone on here that is being critical of others is simply perfect.

Emily - posted on 05/20/2009

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Quoting Hannah:




Im pretty content with my life...sexy fabulous husband, perfect baby girl, hard work in the field, and the deep personal satisfaction that I have given my daughter the best start at life I could possible give her. Aaaahhh....






Now, my interest in this topic is not so much the mother, but the fetus within her.  My "own interests" are not my in my own favor...It is proven to that a fetus will be harmed (to what degree is the only question)  if its mother smokes while pregnant. Period.






There is no damage to me or mine when another woman is selfish or irresponsible with hers. So I am obviously not conserned with myself. I am concerend that there are children out there who are born to mothers who put themselves and their problems before their babies.






Dont be such a hag. (my mother didnt teach me not to name call either)






Once again I am NOT saying it is a good thing to smoke while pregnant, but it is not "proven that a fetus will be harmed". If it is "proven" then how it is possible that I know so many people born to smokers that have NOTHING wrong with them (including myself)? I'm sure it may have affected someone, but to make the blanket statement that so many of you on here are...that it WILL do all or some of things you are all saying is simply not true. Also, many of the people I am referring to are people who were born to smokers over 25 years ago...so don't bother responding with something like that they might end up w/developmental issues. When my mom was pregnant w/my sisters and me it was not thought to be dangerous, she smoked all throughout and after we were born (in the car, in the house, & while breastfeeding). While I'm still not saying it is a good thing to do, what I am saying is how can you be so nasty about something that is hard to prove. There was a time when no one knew the dangers of smoking, so everyone who smoked did it while they were pregnant too...if all of these things linked to smoking while pregnant are "proven" then we would have a lot more peolpe with these problems.

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Quoting Emily:



Quoting Cat:

stupid people shouldn't breed.






Quoting Cat (Breastfeeding Moms group):






hi. from memory with my first baby i had a few too many drinks once and tried to feed him. he ended up throwing up all over me






 






So it is stupid to smoke while pregnant, but not stupid to drink and breastfeed? 






 






Everyone in the world does things others think are stupid, but everyone makes mistakes, right? What gives you the right to decide who should breed?...I hope you are perfect.





 



smoking throughout your pregnancy is not a mistake it's plain stupid.  



 

Emily - posted on 05/20/2009

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Quoting Hannah:

What I expected from this thread was a hands down agreement. I expected that there would be posts from other women who agreed that it is absurd for pregnant women to smoke.



If you thought everyone was going to agree with you, then what exactly needed to be discussed? Why would you have EVER started this thread in the first place? What did you think it was going to accomplish?!?!?

Shoshonna - posted on 05/20/2009

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Quoting Hannah:



Quoting Jodi:

We sound pretty similiar. Im content with my life...sexy fabulous boyfriend, perfect baby boy, hard work at home and in school, and the deep personal satisfaction that I have given my son the best start at life and a future that I could possible give him.

Where's the difference? I guess it's in the mind frame. I've never said it's fine to smoke while you're pregnant. I've said the opposite. As have pretty much every other mother that has posted here.

What you're missing though which is made obvious by your replies; in your original post said you don't understand this - and when people try to explain to you so you can understand it - you ignore the explainations and continue to sit up on your high horse and talk down to everyone else... what I see, and others see and you apparently don't care to see, is that regardless of how no one thinks that it's ok, people do their best and we're no one to talk down at them for it.

For you to EXPECT hands down 100% agreement on anything like this is just proof that you need to get off your high horse and come back to earth... and there have been posts from women who agree with you 100%.

In my mind frame - your attitude is a 100% disadvantage for your child. Unless you can apply your same logic, caring, understanding, compassion for that baby to the mother carrying that baby, you're just as bad of a mother as the mother smoking a cigarette.

Your mind frame is what you feel is best for your baby, my mind frame is what I feel is best for my baby. You have a happy healthy baby. I have a happy healthy baby.

You're a cow and I'm a hag. You're perfect and I'm human.






What YOU dont seem to understand is that I am not concered about offending any one. This is one of those topics that someone needs to stop being sugar coated and worrying about everyones "feelings" and say it like it is.






People offered explanations as to way they kept smoking and It was just not good enough. "I just couldnt seem to be able to stop" is not a good enough explaination. Maybe if there were women who said "I had no idea it could hurt my baby" I could be more "compassionate" and "undertanding" But there are women who have smoked knowing full well what it could do and have dont it any way because they were "stressed out." TELL me about it. I was alone for the last month of my pregnancy in a basement in the middle of fucking no where. TELL me about stress and wanting to smoke.






My sister died of cancer when I was young, so if I seem a little bitchy or anal about babies not getting poisoned inutero then you will have to excuse me. I have seen this shit first hand. Its a big deal and Im not gonna rub these chicks backs. Cutting down is amazing, yes, good job. Its hard, I know. But its still not good enough.






There were many posts saying that they had smoked and nothing was wrong with their babies, that they believed it does nothing and is unimportant. Scroll through again.






I EXPECTED that every mother would out forth the same devotion that I do. And I am shocked that women are more concerned about "hurt feelings" on a discussion board than women poisoning the children they carry.






I do live down here on Earth, where compassion for people doing stupid shit is un-fucking-acceptable.






 





DONT CURSE ON HERE PLS

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Quoting Hannah:



Quoting Jodi:

We sound pretty similiar. Im content with my life...sexy fabulous boyfriend, perfect baby boy, hard work at home and in school, and the deep personal satisfaction that I have given my son the best start at life and a future that I could possible give him.

Where's the difference? I guess it's in the mind frame. I've never said it's fine to smoke while you're pregnant. I've said the opposite. As have pretty much every other mother that has posted here.

What you're missing though which is made obvious by your replies; in your original post said you don't understand this - and when people try to explain to you so you can understand it - you ignore the explainations and continue to sit up on your high horse and talk down to everyone else... what I see, and others see and you apparently don't care to see, is that regardless of how no one thinks that it's ok, people do their best and we're no one to talk down at them for it.

For you to EXPECT hands down 100% agreement on anything like this is just proof that you need to get off your high horse and come back to earth... and there have been posts from women who agree with you 100%.

In my mind frame - your attitude is a 100% disadvantage for your child. Unless you can apply your same logic, caring, understanding, compassion for that baby to the mother carrying that baby, you're just as bad of a mother as the mother smoking a cigarette.

Your mind frame is what you feel is best for your baby, my mind frame is what I feel is best for my baby. You have a happy healthy baby. I have a happy healthy baby.

You're a cow and I'm a hag. You're perfect and I'm human.






What YOU dont seem to understand is that I am not concered about offending any one. This is one of those topics that someone needs to stop being sugar coated and worrying about everyones "feelings" and say it like it is.






People offered explanations as to way they kept smoking and It was just not good enough. "I just couldnt seem to be able to stop" is not a good enough explaination. Maybe if there were women who said "I had no idea it could hurt my baby" I could be more "compassionate" and "undertanding" But there are women who have smoked knowing full well what it could do and have dont it any way because they were "stressed out." TELL me about it. I was alone for the last month of my pregnancy in a basement in the middle of fucking no where. TELL me about stress and wanting to smoke.






My sister died of cancer when I was young, so if I seem a little bitchy or anal about babies not getting poisoned inutero then you will have to excuse me. I have seen this shit first hand. Its a big deal and Im not gonna rub these chicks backs. Cutting down is amazing, yes, good job. Its hard, I know. But its still not good enough.






There were many posts saying that they had smoked and nothing was wrong with their babies, that they believed it does nothing and is unimportant. Scroll through again.






I EXPECTED that every mother would out forth the same devotion that I do. And I am shocked that women are more concerned about "hurt feelings" on a discussion board than women poisoning the children they carry.






I do live down here on Earth, where compassion for people doing stupid shit is un-fucking-acceptable.






 





It seems to me that you are only "shocked" that every single person on Circle of Moms didn't agree with you.  I've seen your postings in other forums and you and I have actually agreed on a few things, crazy, I know.  But I have to say that you haven't been your most eloquent here.  Someone said earlier that it's not what you're saying but how you're saying it.  Go up and read your original question.  You started off defensive right out of the gate.  So don't be surprised or "shocked" that you got the responses you did.  You were just asking for it.  Oh and one last note, a word of advice from someone who's been there....when you have to resort to cursing to get your point accross, you've already lost. 



 

Hannah - posted on 05/20/2009

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Quoting Jodi:

We sound pretty similiar. Im content with my life...sexy fabulous boyfriend, perfect baby boy, hard work at home and in school, and the deep personal satisfaction that I have given my son the best start at life and a future that I could possible give him.

Where's the difference? I guess it's in the mind frame. I've never said it's fine to smoke while you're pregnant. I've said the opposite. As have pretty much every other mother that has posted here.

What you're missing though which is made obvious by your replies; in your original post said you don't understand this - and when people try to explain to you so you can understand it - you ignore the explainations and continue to sit up on your high horse and talk down to everyone else... what I see, and others see and you apparently don't care to see, is that regardless of how no one thinks that it's ok, people do their best and we're no one to talk down at them for it.

For you to EXPECT hands down 100% agreement on anything like this is just proof that you need to get off your high horse and come back to earth... and there have been posts from women who agree with you 100%.

In my mind frame - your attitude is a 100% disadvantage for your child. Unless you can apply your same logic, caring, understanding, compassion for that baby to the mother carrying that baby, you're just as bad of a mother as the mother smoking a cigarette.

Your mind frame is what you feel is best for your baby, my mind frame is what I feel is best for my baby. You have a happy healthy baby. I have a happy healthy baby.

You're a cow and I'm a hag. You're perfect and I'm human.



What YOU dont seem to understand is that I am not concered about offending any one. This is one of those topics that someone needs to stop being sugar coated and worrying about everyones "feelings" and say it like it is.



People offered explanations as to way they kept smoking and It was just not good enough. "I just couldnt seem to be able to stop" is not a good enough explaination. Maybe if there were women who said "I had no idea it could hurt my baby" I could be more "compassionate" and "undertanding" But there are women who have smoked knowing full well what it could do and have dont it any way because they were "stressed out." TELL me about it. I was alone for the last month of my pregnancy in a basement in the middle of fucking no where. TELL me about stress and wanting to smoke.



My sister died of cancer when I was young, so if I seem a little bitchy or anal about babies not getting poisoned inutero then you will have to excuse me. I have seen this shit first hand. Its a big deal and Im not gonna rub these chicks backs. Cutting down is amazing, yes, good job. Its hard, I know. But its still not good enough.



There were many posts saying that they had smoked and nothing was wrong with their babies, that they believed it does nothing and is unimportant. Scroll through again.



I EXPECTED that every mother would out forth the same devotion that I do. And I am shocked that women are more concerned about "hurt feelings" on a discussion board than women poisoning the children they carry.



I do live down here on Earth, where compassion for people doing stupid shit is un-fucking-acceptable.



 

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We sound pretty similiar. Im content with my life...sexy fabulous boyfriend, perfect baby boy, hard work at home and in school, and the deep personal satisfaction that I have given my son the best start at life and a future that I could possible give him.



Where's the difference? I guess it's in the mind frame. I've never said it's fine to smoke while you're pregnant. I've said the opposite. As have pretty much every other mother that has posted here.



What you're missing though which is made obvious by your replies; in your original post said you don't understand this - and when people try to explain to you so you can understand it - you ignore the explainations and continue to sit up on your high horse and talk down to everyone else... what I see, and others see and you apparently don't care to see, is that regardless of how no one thinks that it's ok, people do their best and we're no one to talk down at them for it.



For you to EXPECT hands down 100% agreement on anything like this is just proof that you need to get off your high horse and come back to earth... and there have been posts from women who agree with you 100%.



In my mind frame - your attitude is a 100% disadvantage for your child. Unless you can apply your same logic, caring, understanding, compassion for that baby to the mother carrying that baby, you're just as bad of a mother as the mother smoking a cigarette.



Your mind frame is what you feel is best for your baby, my mind frame is what I feel is best for my baby. You have a happy healthy baby. I have a happy healthy baby.



You're a cow and I'm a hag. You're perfect and I'm human.

Kortney - posted on 05/20/2009

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It is a horrible idea to smoke while pregnant, you're growing the most precious lil bun in your "oven"! But just because you don't agree with what someone does, doesn't mean you need to belittle them. I appoligize to anybody I offended. I was just trying to speak out for those who kept getting put down. Peace out thread... noooo more drama

Sarah - posted on 05/20/2009

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as far as i can see you did get a hands down agreement! even the smokers among us said it's obviously NOT a good idea to smoke when pregnant, but that hasn't been enough for you, it's resulted in name calling and general bad feeling! as i said, it's not what you're saying, it's the way you're saying it.

Hannah - posted on 05/20/2009

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What I expected from this thread was a hands down agreement. I expected that there would be posts from other women who agreed that it is absurd for pregnant women to smoke.

Kortney - posted on 05/20/2009

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Oh, If telling people good job for trying is lashing out, then hot damn I guess I am :o) And as far as putting people down goes, this entire discussion board turned in to a hate-fest! No, calling someone selfish isn't aweful if thats what you really think, but in my opinion (which we all are entitled to), you started this discussion to make yourself feel like a "better" person / mother. So do what you need to do to sleep well at night, I'm glad you're so self satisfied that calling people "hags" on baby boards is your hobby!

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Quoting Hannah:

All right ladies, my bad, guess its just fine to smoke while pregnant.


i don't think many people on here have said it's 'just fine' to smoke while pregnant, as i've said before, it's just the fact that it's sometimes very hard to stop. i think if you had started a thread saying, 'is there anyway i can offer support to mum's trying to give up' or something like that then you might have had a better reception. you've kinda come across as this perfect mum who can do no wrong, and people don't wanna be preached at, they either want help and advice or they don't. you've started this thread to get a reaction, so no point sulking now it's not entirely the reaction you wanted. 



no-ones perfect (i doubt even you!), but why don't we all try to help each other become better mum's rather than looking down at mum's who are trying their best and making them feel worse about themselves. i thought this was circle of mom's not hierarchy of mom's??

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Quoting Hannah:



Quoting Jodi:

Kinda like posting mean and rude "opinions" in the interest to make yourself feel better about your own life... pretty selfish.

Like posting your opinions in such a manner that is devoted to and caring only for the feelings of oneself; being concerned primarily with one's own interests, benefits, welfare, etc., regardless of others feelings, wants, needs and interests.

characterized by or manifesting concern or care only for oneself: selfish motives.

Someone's mom didn't teach someone that the world doesn't revolve around them.





Im pretty content with my life...sexy fabulous husband, perfect baby girl, hard work in the field, and the deep personal satisfaction that I have given my daughter the best start at life I could possible give her. Aaaahhh....






Now, my interest in this topic is not so much the mother, but the fetus within her.  My "own interests" are not my in my own favor...It is proven to that a fetus will be harmed (to what degree is the only question)  if its mother smokes while pregnant. Period.






There is no damage to me or mine when another woman is selfish or irresponsible with hers. So I am obviously not conserned with myself. I am concerend that there are children out there who are born to mothers who put themselves and their problems before their babies.






Dont be such a hag. (my mother didnt teach me not to name call either)





*sigh* wish i was perfect, guess i'll have to settle for being human......

Jami - posted on 05/20/2009

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Lots of mom's have been smoking before they where pregnant. There are a lot of ups and Downs on this topic. Some say it cause small baby's and other stuff. I smoked with both my kids when I was pregnant and they are very healthy. As for the weight of my kids my daughter was 8 lbs and my son was 9lbs 2 oz. There is nothing medically wrong with either of them when they where born and not now. It is a personal choice, and should not be judged at all.

Kate - posted on 05/20/2009

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I agree Jodi, the word "dogmatic" springs to my mind. You should look that one up Hannah it's very interesting

Hannah - posted on 05/20/2009

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Quoting Jodi:

Kinda like posting mean and rude "opinions" in the interest to make yourself feel better about your own life... pretty selfish.

Like posting your opinions in such a manner that is devoted to and caring only for the feelings of oneself; being concerned primarily with one's own interests, benefits, welfare, etc., regardless of others feelings, wants, needs and interests.

characterized by or manifesting concern or care only for oneself: selfish motives.

Someone's mom didn't teach someone that the world doesn't revolve around them.


Im pretty content with my life...sexy fabulous husband, perfect baby girl, hard work in the field, and the deep personal satisfaction that I have given my daughter the best start at life I could possible give her. Aaaahhh....



Now, my interest in this topic is not so much the mother, but the fetus within her.  My "own interests" are not my in my own favor...It is proven to that a fetus will be harmed (to what degree is the only question)  if its mother smokes while pregnant. Period.



There is no damage to me or mine when another woman is selfish or irresponsible with hers. So I am obviously not conserned with myself. I am concerend that there are children out there who are born to mothers who put themselves and their problems before their babies.



Dont be such a hag. (my mother didnt teach me not to name call either)

?? - posted on 05/20/2009

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Kinda like posting mean and rude "opinions" in the interest to make yourself feel better about your own life... pretty selfish.



Like posting your opinions in such a manner that is devoted to and caring only for the feelings of oneself; being concerned primarily with one's own interests, benefits, welfare, etc., regardless of others feelings, wants, needs and interests.



characterized by or manifesting concern or care only for oneself: selfish motives.



Someone's mom didn't teach someone that the world doesn't revolve around them.

Hannah - posted on 05/20/2009

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Quoting Kortney:

It's great to post opinions, but do so in a respectiful and adult manner. There is no need to put people down. Stick to facts and have your opinions, but no need to lash out.


Arn't you lashing out?...



The facts have already been stated and now its down to opinions on this controversial topic...This is a discussion board, and this is a topic to be discussed.



If by "putting people down" you are referring to the several comments on how "selfish" it is, then that can be lobbed into the "fact based opinion" category...



self⋅ish



















1. devoted to or caring only for oneself; concerned primarily with one's own interests, benefits, welfare, etc., regardless of others.
















2. characterized by or manifesting concern or care only for oneself: selfish motives


 



 

Kortney - posted on 05/20/2009

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It's great to post opinions, but do so in a respectiful and adult manner. There is no need to put people down. Stick to facts and have your opinions, but no need to lash out.

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People should really let other people state their opinions, and not criticize them.

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i have no problem with the mothers on here that are just posting their opinions on this subject, but the mothers who are accusing or implying accusiation on the other hand is my problem.

if you have a problem with smoking mom's then help and encourage them, dont accuse that they dont care about their unborn child. I LOVE my son and i LOVED him while i was pregnant with him.

People may have been told to just cut back or to not quit because of medical reasons for the safety of the child and the mother both.

Dont think your better than we are just because you dont/ didnt smoke while pregnant or because you quit cold turkey.

V/R
SPC Begeal

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I as well don't think they think it is ok to smoke,maybe it's just the addiction side? I know me for one..getting pregnant with my first made me quit,i couldn't imagine smoking with my baby inside of me,and i quit for good..Love my baby and health too much

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Well not saying that it is ok or should be acceptable, but I didn't find out I was pregnant until 24 weeks, which I was a smoker through that time, I had trouble giving up and was told by my midwife that stopping could stress baby as she has been accustomed to it, she was born 6 days ago weighing 8lb 10oz and got a 10/10 on her APGAR tests, I think it really is a personal choice for each individual it is their baby and people really need to worry about there own back yard!

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Quoting Racheal:

One more thing, I know two people that smoked throughout their pregnancies. One mothers first child was born 6 weeks early, he is now 2 and is extremely behind other children his age! Her 2nd child was born full term and healthy, now he is 10 months old and has gotten sick several times with ear infection and respiratory problems. She also ate extremely unhealthy, had frozen meals at least once a day, ate candy and drank soda constantly, in return she had an extremely difficult pregnancy. The doctor begged her to eat better and to quit smoking otherwise he would have to induce her early because she was putting her baby at risk. She had terrible water gain in her feet, it hurt to even walk. Because she reduced her cigarette, soda, and candy intake, she was able to go full term. The other friends child was born prematurely and was allergic to a number of different things, the biggest thing was WATER!! She had to purchase special wipes to bath him. I'm not saying if they quit smoking or ate better their children would have been healthy, but it does make you wonder! What if?


ok, so on the healthy eating thing, of course it's a good idea, however, i have a very limited diet, without going into details...i stopped eating properly when i was about one. i went to see a dietician when i was pregant and they gave me advice, some of which i followed, some of which i couldn't, BUT my doctor told me that the baby is like a parasite....it takes all it needs from whatever food you eat, so you may feel not so hot but the baby will be fine! i highly doubt anyone on here solely ate junk and drank fizzy drinks!! on the smoking issue which is what this thread is about right??? i smoked about 5 a day with both of mine and they went full term good weights no problems. my sister never smoked or drank ate a good diet and yet both her kids were premature! yet again i say, of course it's not ok to smoke when pregnant, but it's HIGHLY addictictive (more so than heroin apparently) but..........NOBODY IS BLOODY PERFECT!!!!!!!!!!!

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Moms calling other moms ignorant and they're being ignorant. That's classic. You don't know every person who is smoking while pregnant. Hell you could be seeing that woman while she's having her 1 smoke a day so that she doesn't stress out and get high blood pressure and end up having to be induced early cause of it.



There's a billion things that can lead to different things with your child. Yes everyone wants the best for their child. You're just plain stupid if you don't think that. Of course there's some moms out there who couldn't care less and fuck them, I'm talking about the people who have cut down and are doing what they can to make sure their baby has the best chance under the circumstances.



It's ignorant for anyone to sit and preach about quitting any addiction when you have no knowledge of that person.



It isn't about the 9 months - it's the first 3 months that's hard - and in those first 3 months where it's SO easy to lose a baby without the added stress of trying to quit smoking - it makes a LOT more sense to cut down than to quit cold turkey and up the risk of losing the baby all together.



I would hope some of the moms on here are a lot more understanding, considerate and compassionate towards people they know than they obviously aren't on here. If not, it's no wonder there's so much bullying, meanness, and the attitude of "I'm better than you" in children these days. Look at the mothers. You can be a good mother and still be understanding and using common sense when it comes to "judging" things.



And in the end - all it comes down to is everyone is human - people try their best, and the people who are rude and negative and IGNORANT just end up being another person in our lives that we end up leaving behind cause we can surround ourselves with people with better attitudes that are positive, supportive and helpful.





Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh hey, as long as we're going with facts..............



An analysis of seven major medical research studies involving over 130,000 pregnancies suggests that consuming two to 14 drinks per week does not increase the risk of giving birth to a child with either malformations or fetal alcohol syndrome.



The guidelines of the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists recommend that "women should be careful about alcohol consumption in pregnancy" and recommends as acceptable two drinks a couple of times each week. These conclusions appear consistent with the research findings of the Institute of Medicine of the National Academy of Sciences, a major science body in the U.S.



Similarly, the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists concluded that "there is no evidence that an occasional drink is harmful. Women who drink heavily throughout pregnancy may have smaller babies with physical and mental handicaps, but women who drink moderately may have babies with no more problems than those women who drink rarely or not at all."





Soooooooooo............. lets all get our preggo ladies together and have some drinks - NO SMOKING - but lets booze it up !!!!! Don't worry - those 2 drinks won't give your baby Fetal Alcohol Syndrom or hurt them in any way shape or form! HAHA

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Some people just love jumping on that high horse, be careful you don't hurt yourself falling off the other side! That would be funny

I'm just glad you're not my so-called friend who likes to talk bad about me on forums, shame on you...yes you!

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Quoting Emily:



Quoting Racheal:

Smoking while you're pregnant is the most selfish thing a woman can do! I don't care if a mother who smoked during their pregnancy gives birth to a healthy child! Who's to say that the child is going to have a harder time learning as compared to a child born to a mother who didn't smoke? The risk is too dangerous! If you can't give up smoking for 9 months for your unborn child, should you even be having babies?!? A mother needs to devote themselves to their child, why put your child at risk? The following are FACTS:

Babies born to mothers who smoke:
* are more likely to be born prematurely and with a low birth weight (below 2.5kg or 5lb 8oz).
* have a birth weight on average 200g (7oz) less than those born to non-smokers. This effect increases proportionally - the more the mother smokes, the less the child weighs.
* have organs that are smaller on average than babies born to non-smokers.
* have poorer lung function.
* are twice as likely to die from cot death. There seems to be a direct link between cot death and parents smoking.
* are ill more frequently. Babies born to women who smoked 15 cigarettes or more a day during pregnancy are taken into hospital twice as often during the first eight months of life.
* get painful diseases such as inflammation of the middle ear and asthmatic bronchitis more frequently in early childhood.
* are more likely to become smokers themselves in later years.
* women who smoke anytime during the month before pregnancy to the end of the first trimester are more likely to have a baby with birth defects, particularly congenital heart defects
* babies of mothers who smoke during pregnancy undergo withdrawal-like symptoms similar to those seen in babies of mothers who use some illicit drugs. For example, babies of smokers appear to be more jittery and difficult to soothe than babies of nonsmokers.

And for those of you that say quitting is too hard, PLEASE GIVE ME A BREAK! I smoked for 5 years a pack a day before I got pregnant! I quit COLD TURKEY! There was absolutely NO WAY I was going to put my son at risk for ANYTHING!!!





*I was not born prematurely & I weighed 11lbs 2ozs at birth






*my mom smoked over a pack a day while pregnant with all 3 of us (my sistres being 9lbs 14ozs and 11lbs 4ozs)






*all of my organs developed just fine






*lung function - normal






*clearly didn't die from cot death






*I am rarely ill and was never taken to the hospital in the 1st 8 months of life






*no inflammation of the middle ear or asthmatic bronchitis






* I am a smoker






*no birth defects






*wasn't jittery or difficult to soothe






One out of ten occured in any of the peolpe in my family born to smokers (which was some of us bacame smokers, but so did you...was it b/c your mom smoked?)






I am once again NOT saying smoking while pregnant is a good thing by any means, I'm just saying people did it for decades before we knew anything bad about it, and if they can honestly link all of these things to it, then why aren't more people suffering from these things (ya know being full grown adults & never having a single one of these things wrong with them?) How does anyone honestly know smoking causes these particular issues?






I don't know how anyone thinks they get to judge. There a lot of other things people do during pregnancy that are not healthy, but you don't hear anyone condemning them. Improper diet, lack of exercise, drinking a glass of wine, etc. I would like to think everyone has flawed at some point, doesn't mean they shouldn't be having babies...as you said about smoking moms. I love my mom and my grandma who collectively delivered 9 healthy babies.






 





I didn't mention anywhere that it was alright to drink or have an improper diet while pregnant, this thread is about Smoking and that is what I replied about!  And yes, I'm going to judge someone who is SELFISH, who only thinks of themselves and not their unborn baby!!  You know why?  I worked at a state run child developement agency that provided services for delayed and underdeveloped children.  The majority of the children we serviced were born to mothers who either smoked, drank liquor, took illegal drugs, didn't take prenatal vitamins, or were completely unhealthy eaters!  Studies show that if these mothers took better care of their unborn babies that the chances of these children developing on target is greatly increased!  I just don't understand why a person would unneedlessly put their child at risk!  WHY?!?!?  Parents want to give their children the best opportunities available, so why not start them out right from the beginning?  And like I said in my previous post, a child born to a mother who smoked throughout the pregnancy could be perfectly healthy, like you, but who's to say the child's memory, thought process, learning abilitity, etc... could have been just a little better if the mother didn't smoke at all!  Instead of being a B student, maybe they could have been an A student.  And it is also a fact that the cigarette addatives are worse today then they were 15 to 20 years ago, meaning the risks are tremendously greater to fetuses now!  Also, maybe the affects of a baby born to a smoking mother are not immediately shown.  You know lung cancer is not the only cancer created by cigarettes!  Even diabetes and high blood pressure has shown up more in children, who are now adults, that were born to mothers who smoked during pregnancy. 



All I'm saying is, WHY put your child at risk??  It's only 9 months!  Seriously NINE MONTHS!!!  Again, I will judge a person who is only thinking of themselves and not their child for various different wrong doings!   I'm not saying I'm perfect, but as soon as I found out I was pregnant I stopped smoking, started eating right (more veggies, no canned or frozen food, not processed meats, no soda, more 100% juices, took my pre natal vitamins regularly, exercised, etc....) and I went full term, had a healthy baby boy who was 9 lbs, 13 oz, he is 8 today and has NEVER had any serious problems yet, just the common cold.  He is bright, intelligent, ahead of his class, athletic, etc...  Don't get me wrong, he has his flaws, like when he talks too much in class.  I gave my child the best opportunities available before he was born and to this day he is extremely healthy!  I'm not saying that everyone who follows my pre-natal plan will also have the same results, but why not TRY!  Does it hurt you to stop smoking for 9 months?  Are you going to die because you can't puff on a cigarette??  NO!  So, why not think of your child and put down the tobacco!?!  Do some research and stop being so ignorant saying "oh so and so smoked and had a perfect child", that doesn't mean anything!  I implore you to do your research and educate yourselves before smoking while pregnant!

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Quoting Emily:



Quoting Racheal:

Smoking while you're pregnant is the most selfish thing a woman can do! I don't care if a mother who smoked during their pregnancy gives birth to a healthy child! Who's to say that the child is going to have a harder time learning as compared to a child born to a mother who didn't smoke? The risk is too dangerous! If you can't give up smoking for 9 months for your unborn child, should you even be having babies?!? A mother needs to devote themselves to their child, why put your child at risk? The following are FACTS:

Babies born to mothers who smoke:
* are more likely to be born prematurely and with a low birth weight (below 2.5kg or 5lb 8oz).
* have a birth weight on average 200g (7oz) less than those born to non-smokers. This effect increases proportionally - the more the mother smokes, the less the child weighs.
* have organs that are smaller on average than babies born to non-smokers.
* have poorer lung function.
* are twice as likely to die from cot death. There seems to be a direct link between cot death and parents smoking.
* are ill more frequently. Babies born to women who smoked 15 cigarettes or more a day during pregnancy are taken into hospital twice as often during the first eight months of life.
* get painful diseases such as inflammation of the middle ear and asthmatic bronchitis more frequently in early childhood.
* are more likely to become smokers themselves in later years.
* women who smoke anytime during the month before pregnancy to the end of the first trimester are more likely to have a baby with birth defects, particularly congenital heart defects
* babies of mothers who smoke during pregnancy undergo withdrawal-like symptoms similar to those seen in babies of mothers who use some illicit drugs. For example, babies of smokers appear to be more jittery and difficult to soothe than babies of nonsmokers.

And for those of you that say quitting is too hard, PLEASE GIVE ME A BREAK! I smoked for 5 years a pack a day before I got pregnant! I quit COLD TURKEY! There was absolutely NO WAY I was going to put my son at risk for ANYTHING!!!





*I was not born prematurely & I weighed 11lbs 2ozs at birth






*my mom smoked over a pack a day while pregnant with all 3 of us (my sistres being 9lbs 14ozs and 11lbs 4ozs)






*all of my organs developed just fine






*lung function - normal






*clearly didn't die from cot death






*I am rarely ill and was never taken to the hospital in the 1st 8 months of life






*no inflammation of the middle ear or asthmatic bronchitis






* I am a smoker






*no birth defects






*wasn't jittery or difficult to soothe






One out of ten occured in any of the peolpe in my family born to smokers (which was some of us bacame smokers, but so did you...was it b/c your mom smoked?)






I am once again NOT saying smoking while pregnant is a good thing by any means, I'm just saying people did it for decades before we knew anything bad about it, and if they can honestly link all of these things to it, then why aren't more people suffering from these things (ya know being full grown adults & never having a single one of these things wrong with them?) How does anyone honestly know smoking causes these particular issues?






I don't know how anyone thinks they get to judge. There a lot of other things people do during pregnancy that are not healthy, but you don't hear anyone condemning them. Improper diet, lack of exercise, drinking a glass of wine, etc. I would like to think everyone has flawed at some point, doesn't mean they shouldn't be having babies...as you said about smoking moms. I love my mom and my grandma who collectively delivered 9 healthy babies.






 





I didn't mention anywhere that it was alright to drink or have an improper diet while pregnant, this thread is about Smoking and that is what I replied about!  And yes, I'm going to judge someone who is SELFISH, who only thinks of themselves and not their unborn baby!!  You know why?  I worked at a state run child developement agency that provided services for delayed and underdeveloped children.  The majority of the children we serviced were born to mothers who either smoked, drank liquor, took illegal drugs, didn't take prenatal vitamins, or were completely unhealthy eaters!  Studies show that if these mothers took better care of their unborn babies that the chances of these children developing on target is greatly increased!  I just don't understand why a person would unneedlessly put their child at risk!  WHY?!?!?  Parents want to give their children the best opportunities available, so why not start them out right from the beginning?  And like I said in my previous post, a child born to a mother who smoked throughout the pregnancy could be perfectly healthy, like you, but who's to say the child's memory, thought process, learning abilitity, etc... could have been just a little better if the mother didn't smoke at all!  Instead of being a B student, maybe they could have been an A student.  And it is also a fact that the cigarette addatives are worse today then they were 15 to 20 years ago, meaning the risks are tremendously greater to fetuses now!  Also, maybe the affects of a baby born to a smoking mother are not immediately shown.  You know lung cancer is not the only cancer created by cigarettes!  Even diabetes and high blood pressure has shown up more in children, who are now adults, that were born to mothers who smoked during pregnancy. 



All I'm saying is, WHY put your child at risk??  It's only 9 months!  Seriously NINE MONTHS!!!  Again, I will judge a person who is only thinking of themselves and not their child for various different wrong doings!   I'm not saying I'm perfect, but as soon as I found out I was pregnant I stopped smoking, started eating right (more veggies, no canned or frozen food, not processed meats, no soda, more 100% juices, took my pre natal vitamins regularly, exercised, etc....) and I went full term, had a healthy baby boy who was 9 lbs, 13 oz, he is 8 today and has NEVER had any serious problems yet, just the common cold.  He is bright, intelligent, ahead of his class, athletic, etc...  Don't get me wrong, he has his flaws, like when he talks too much in class.  I gave my child the best opportunities available before he was born and to this day he is extremely healthy!  I'm not saying that everyone who follows my pre-natal plan will also have the same results, but why not TRY!  Does it hurt you to stop smoking for 9 months?  Are you going to die because you can't puff on a cigarette??  NO!  So, why not think of your child and put down the tobacco!?!  Do some research and stop being so ignorant saying "oh so and so smoked and had a perfect child", that doesn't mean anything!  I implore you to do your research and educate yourselves before smoking while pregnant!

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We all want to be non smokers when we get pregnant for the safety of the baby , but its harder than you think I smoked all the way through both my pregnancies (Not Proud) and both my babies thank god were born healthy, I have since given up, a month before my daughter got married (would you believe it, what with all the stress going on) and have never looked back should have done it years ago.

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I don't know if it is so much that women think it is ok to smoke but they don't have to effort in them to quit smoking. There are many women who smoke during thier pregnacy and ended up getting lucky that their baby turned out okey. So what ends up happening is that those that find it okey to smoke during pregnacy because of others around them who's babies turned out okey. I know that when I found out that I was pregnant it was because smoking made me sick to my stomach so I had to quit.

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my friend is 12 weeks pregnant i went to see the midwife with her and she was asked about her smoking status and was told either quit or carry on because she was smoking when she conceived . my nan smoked through 12 pregnancies my mum smoked through 2 and i smoked through both of mine all good weights all overdue and healthy . it really is up the mother only she can make that decision .

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Quoting Jennifer:



Quoting Emily:




Quoting Cat:

stupid people shouldn't breed.








Quoting Cat (Breastfeeding Moms group):








hi. from memory with my first baby i had a few too many drinks once and tried to feed him. he ended up throwing up all over me








 








So it is stupid to smoke while pregnant, but not stupid to drink and breastfeed? 








 








Everyone in the world does things others think are stupid, but everyone makes mistakes, right? What gives you the right to decide who should breed?...I hope you are perfect.









...and the moral of the story is:






" Never use your halo as a drink coaster."



 





ROFLMAO!  Your posts always rock Jennifer!

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i would be more concerned about drinking alcohol then smoking. Its hard enough raising a child, its evn harder raising one with problems. smoking while you are pregnant can making you have a under weight baby and some health problems. My mom smoked while she was pregnant with me and i was a 5 pound baby who lost so much weight after i was born that they kept me for 2 weeks.

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i would be more concerned about drinking alcohol then smoking. Its hard enough raising a child, its evn harder raising one with problems. smoking while you are pregnant can making you have a under weight baby and some health problems. My mom smoked while she was pregnant with me and i was a 5 pound baby who lost so much weight after i was born that they kept me for 2 weeks.

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I was lucky to have quit smoking a good 5 months before I fell pregnant. It's hard to quit an addiction, it just shows how different people are dealing with things, some can handle going cold turkey some cant.

When you're trying to quit just remember it's not about you it's about the bubba and if you really enjoy smoking, you're not pregnant forever. When you've pushed the little bugga out then go for a smoke, you'll know it's well deserved!

Goodluck to all mums trying to cut down or trying to quit altogether

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My kids are all grown now and I smoked during all 3 pregnancies. With my first two, I don't recall a doctor ever telling me to cut down, let alone stop. By my 3rd pregnancy, I had been diagnosed with a chronic illness (not cigarette related) and although I'd been advised to stop due that condition, had been unable to. When I found out I was pregnant, on my dr's advice, I did cut down drastically. I've subsequently had a triple by-pass and a stroke (all by the age of 40) and whilst I know I'm killing myself by continuing to smoke, I am hopelessly addicted. Because of my own battle, I'd never judge anyone else. I encourage anyone who smokes to do their best to stop but that is rather hippocritical isn't it?

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I totally agree, if you are planning to get pregnant the first thing you should to is quit smoking just like you would stop drinking alcohol. Why do mothers find it so hard to put their unborn babies first? When they are born and even before you would do anything for them even die for them, so why can't people give up a few cigarettes? People say they still have healthy babies even though they have smoked in pregnancy but you never know untill the child is born, is it really worth the risk? Just to clarify i was a smoker before falling pregnant!

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Ok I am tired of all these women on their high horses saying that they quit cold turky and if they did it anyone can do it and if you don't you are stupid and selfish.



I AM NOT STUPID AND I AM NOT SELFISH. I LOVE MY CHILD. I did everything in my power to quit as quickly as I could but it took me a couple of months to do so.

Like I said a million times YES you shouldn't be smoking a pack a day for crying out loud but if a mother is able to cut it down and quit over a couple of months that is GREAT if they still can't but are able to keep it down to one or two a day that is still a hell of alot better than a whole pack!



I guess I am just a more understanding caring person than some......I would rather help a mother through something like quiting smoking rather than call her names and tell her how much she must hate her unborn baby if she can't quit right that second.



Just because you did it cold turkey (great for you!) doesn't mean that everyone can and it doesn't make them selfish or stupid.....Now a mother who KNOWS what it can do and DOESN'T care is the selfish one. Save the judgements for the ones who deserve it.

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Quoting Racheal:

Smoking while you're pregnant is the most selfish thing a woman can do! I don't care if a mother who smoked during their pregnancy gives birth to a healthy child! Who's to say that the child is going to have a harder time learning as compared to a child born to a mother who didn't smoke? The risk is too dangerous! If you can't give up smoking for 9 months for your unborn child, should you even be having babies?!? A mother needs to devote themselves to their child, why put your child at risk? The following are FACTS:

Babies born to mothers who smoke:
* are more likely to be born prematurely and with a low birth weight (below 2.5kg or 5lb 8oz).
* have a birth weight on average 200g (7oz) less than those born to non-smokers. This effect increases proportionally - the more the mother smokes, the less the child weighs.
* have organs that are smaller on average than babies born to non-smokers.
* have poorer lung function.
* are twice as likely to die from cot death. There seems to be a direct link between cot death and parents smoking.
* are ill more frequently. Babies born to women who smoked 15 cigarettes or more a day during pregnancy are taken into hospital twice as often during the first eight months of life.
* get painful diseases such as inflammation of the middle ear and asthmatic bronchitis more frequently in early childhood.
* are more likely to become smokers themselves in later years.
* women who smoke anytime during the month before pregnancy to the end of the first trimester are more likely to have a baby with birth defects, particularly congenital heart defects
* babies of mothers who smoke during pregnancy undergo withdrawal-like symptoms similar to those seen in babies of mothers who use some illicit drugs. For example, babies of smokers appear to be more jittery and difficult to soothe than babies of nonsmokers.

And for those of you that say quitting is too hard, PLEASE GIVE ME A BREAK! I smoked for 5 years a pack a day before I got pregnant! I quit COLD TURKEY! There was absolutely NO WAY I was going to put my son at risk for ANYTHING!!!


*I was not born prematurely & I weighed 11lbs 2ozs at birth



*my mom smoked over a pack a day while pregnant with all 3 of us (my sistres being 9lbs 14ozs and 11lbs 4ozs)



*all of my organs developed just fine



*lung function - normal



*clearly didn't die from cot death



*I am rarely ill and was never taken to the hospital in the 1st 8 months of life



*no inflammation of the middle ear or asthmatic bronchitis



* I am a smoker



*no birth defects



*wasn't jittery or difficult to soothe



One out of ten occured in any of the peolpe in my family born to smokers (which was some of us bacame smokers, but so did you...was it b/c your mom smoked?)



I am once again NOT saying smoking while pregnant is a good thing by any means, I'm just saying people did it for decades before we knew anything bad about it, and if they can honestly link all of these things to it, then why aren't more people suffering from these things (ya know being full grown adults & never having a single one of these things wrong with them?) How does anyone honestly know smoking causes these particular issues?



I don't know how anyone thinks they get to judge. There a lot of other things people do during pregnancy that are not healthy, but you don't hear anyone condemning them. Improper diet, lack of exercise, drinking a glass of wine, etc. I would like to think everyone has flawed at some point, doesn't mean they shouldn't be having babies...as you said about smoking moms. I love my mom and my grandma who collectively delivered 9 healthy babies.



 

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i was smoking a pack and a half a day for 5 years, the last month I smoked I had just lost one of my best friends, and was smoking TWO packs a day. I found out I was pregnant, and dropped smoking immediately. anyone that claims it is too hard to quit, and lays down a sob story, is too involved with themselves. and if its too hard to give up smoking for the baby, then its going to be one hell of a shock once they find out all the other things they're going to need to give up. quiting is HARD, but it is entirely possible, and if you find something that is completely worth it (like a baby) then it is very DO-able, and makes it that much easier.

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I have never smoked but I know friends that just couldn't kick the habit even when pregnant and they delivered healthy babies. It's worth to try and stop, but do not be devastated - you do not need the stress! Good luck.

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I was a smoker and I tried for several weeks to quit while I was pregnant. Then the morning sickness kicked in one morning (I had it for WEEKS but this morning was against cigarettes) and I put them down and didn't pick one up for the rest of my pregnancy. I smoke again. But not around my daughter. We don't smoke in the car with her in it, and we go outside to smoke at home. People that know us that smoke in their own homes, when we walk in they start going outside. It's quite nice knowing that others feel it's ok to not smoke around her.

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Quoting Emily:



Quoting Cat:

stupid people shouldn't breed.






Quoting Cat (Breastfeeding Moms group):






hi. from memory with my first baby i had a few too many drinks once and tried to feed him. he ended up throwing up all over me






 






So it is stupid to smoke while pregnant, but not stupid to drink and breastfeed? 






 






Everyone in the world does things others think are stupid, but everyone makes mistakes, right? What gives you the right to decide who should breed?...I hope you are perfect.





...and the moral of the story is:



" Never use your halo as a drink coaster."

Tara - posted on 05/18/2009

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Quoting Hannah:



Quoting Mary:

I am a smoker but when I found out I was pregnant I wanted to quit but it is a very hard thing to do....The doctor said it was best to cut down gradualy untill I could kick the habit all together and that is what I did......all though after the baby was born I was so stressed out and tired I started again.....I am once again working to kick the habit...hopefully for good this time.

Jodi mentioned coffee and pop....I don't see anything wrong with having a little.....I even asked my doctor about it because I do love my pepsi, lol....and he told me as long as I didn't over do it a little was fine so I had a glass of pop a day and the rest of the time I drank water or milk and my doctor was fine with that.

I agree with Jodi that it isn't our place to judge but I do think mothers should at least make an effort to cut back and try and quit.





 






They way I see it, coffee, cigarettes, alcohol, junk food, etc. Can all be lopped into the same catergory.  These things make you feel good, but they are bad for you and they are bad for your baby.






They are also the same in that (some things more than others) One, or "just a little bit" leads to more. Its like, "Well I smoked and the baby is still kicking, the sky didnt fall in on me, so its ok."






I was a heavy smoker and drinker. I found out I was pregnant and I quit, cold turkey. It was really hard, yeah. I cried I wanted to smoke so bad. But I thought about a healthy baby and it was worth it.






Im not a pristine example for THE RIGHT THING TO DO. I craved Wendys Spicy chicken burgers. And indulged in pickles, lots and lots of pickles. I had some wine on my birthday.






But I disagree that we dont have a "place" to judge other mothers on things that they are posting on here for the world to see. ASKING for opinions, then getting them and being SO insulted.






We are all raising up the future of our world. Its a big deal.





 



 



I'm sorry but I just find this so funny. Putting coffee and junk food into the same category as cigarettes and alcohol is a little over the top. I mean with the way this is going pretty soon pregnant women are gonna be living on celery and water to keep their baby "healthy".



While pregnant I enjoyed a cup of coffee every morning with my husband and even a Mountain Dew on occasion. My daughter is absolutely beautiful and perfectly healthy.



Junk food and coffee might not be right for some but don't just throw it into this pile of things not to touch while your pregnant. There is no reason why we should be making TTC moms out there feel like they are some hardened crimal if they drink a cup of coffee every once in awhile. 



Back to the subject at hand... I do think it is unfair for the baby when a mother smokes during pregnancy but I do understand how hard it is to quit. I quit cold turkey the moment I found out I was pregnant but with all the stress a new baby brings after she was born I immediately started smoking again. I choose never to smoke in my house or car or anywhere my baby is because I feel it would be unfair of me to force my second hand smoke upon her when she can't escape from it.



 

Kimberly - posted on 05/18/2009

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I also smoked before I was pregnant. I tried to quit smoking so many times before and never could, but from the moment I found out I was going to be a mother I never touch another cigerette, I guess I was lucky. During my pregnancy it was easy for me not to smoke. I sometimes have cravings but I know how hard it was to walk away from the addiction so for me, I know it's something I'll never do again.

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