putting cereal in 8wk old formula?

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My daughter is 8 weeks old & is already up to 7 ounces, eating every 3-4 hours. About 3 weeks ago, my mother-in-law told me to start putting cereal in her baby formula to thicken it. I did that for a week, until a friend told me her doctor said that it can cause food allergies. My mother-in-law has done that for all 3 of her children, with no problems or complications. I plan on talking to my doctor on my next visit but wanted to get advice from other moms until then! Thanks!!!

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NEVER put cereal in a bottle. One... you should really be breastfeeding anyway...



two.. she is probably eating more because she is thirsty and not neccesarily hungry breastmilk is perfectly engineered to fix this problem...



three.. never disguise cereal in a bottle. Babies will let you know when they are ready to start eating more solid foods. Putting cereal in their bottle deprives them of the chance to only start eating it when they are ready.

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Quoting Jolene:

Is this honestly what this thread has turned into? People arguing with eachother about "right" or "wrong". She posted a question asking about this issue...post your opinion or expirience and get on with it. There is 1 nurse saying this is horrible, and another nurse saying it isn't. There are always going to be different opinions about any issue. All you can do is take advice from your doctor, from in-laws and grandparents, other moms, and some sense from yourself to make your desicions. Good luck Ashley, and I hope whatever you choose works for you and baby!


 



Thank you. I did not post to this question to get back & forth arguements over this. People have their own opinion & experiences. I understand where you all are coming from.  & I never mentioned that I am doing this to make my daugther sleep through the night, as some of you have mentioned. I am not a selfish person, & am willing to wake up at all hours of the night to feed my child!! So I'd appreciate if you all can just answer the question without a back & forth arguement. Thank you.

Anna - posted on 02/17/2009

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I'm a pediatric registered nurse... my daughter has GERD and is on 2 different medications. Adding oatmeal cereal to a few bottles every day from 9 weeks old until now is the ONLY thing that has seemed to help much with her reflux. I'm not sure why you are interested in thickening her bottles, but just consider your options carefully. The medical field is split on this topic as far as for what is best for babies... Right now, the current position is not to add cereal. However, the opinion was years ago to add it. My baby is doing great with it, and the oatmeal cereal does not constipate her or cause any other problems. She loves the taste of it. Just use common sense. If you or anyone in your family has food allergies, avoid introducing cereal until your baby is 6 months old. For "most" babies, this is not a life or death matter. (All of you who have been freaking out and name calling... noticed I said most... not all)

Julie - posted on 02/17/2009

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Hi There, 3-4 hours at 8 weeks is great! If they get to the point where they are not getting 3-4 hours, then  you need to try increasing the amount of ounces you are giving them. My son got nothing but breastmilk and formula for the first 6 months. You'll notice a change in them sleeping longer at about 12-14 weeks. That is when my son started sleeping longer stretches at night. From what I have read, there is a direct link with solids and allegries in the first six months. Babies are born with bowels that are not fully developed, and my understanding is, they have pouches that are open in the bowel. When you feed them solids, they can get lodged in these little pouches and grow into thier bowel. Then thier bodies regects that solid, causing allegries. Now, I'm not a doctor, but this is my understanding.

User - posted on 02/17/2009

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My oldest son was a pig and I started him on cereal in the bottle at 6 weeks. He was much happier and so was I! He has no food allergies--he's acutually my healiest kid!

Denise - posted on 02/17/2009

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Every doctor is different. I started my kids at 1 and 2 weeks after birth and they are both fine. If I didn't they would have breast feed 24/7 and that was not happening. You need to do what you feel is right - not what we think or m-in-l thinks. If you feel it is ok for your baby then try it. She if she likes it. I stuck a needle through the nipple to make it aliitle bigger so they did not struggle to get it out.

Jill - posted on 02/17/2009

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I gave my son formula in his bottles from the time he was about 8 weeks on.  He kept having it in his bottles until about a year old.  He had acid reflux and that's why the doctor recommended it for him, not to fill his stomache.  He had absolutely no issues with this.  And this is on top of using the Enfamil AR.  We used that formula WITH the cereal.  He is a happy healthy 4 year old now with no food alergies at all.  Just ask your doctor, that's the best advise.

Jenni - posted on 02/17/2009

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putting cereal in the bottle is a method of the past and not recommended by health care providers... they can have serious digestion problems... my doctor (who is really oldschool) suggested i started doing the cereal in the bottle thing and if that didn't work try force feed him cereal with a syrnge! desperate for a break from him wanting to eat every 2-3 hrs i tried it.. all it did was constipate him and make him miserable and in a lot of pain from gas until i would stop... he wasn't able to digest it until 4 months... he didn't develop allergies but that is a possibility for babies who are given cereal too soon... i would suggest doing what u can with the formula for now and waiting until 4 months

CHRISTINA - posted on 02/17/2009

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I forgot to mention that even when i put cereal in her bottle she still didn't sleep through the night. In fact she just started sleeping through the night about two weeks ago. It might work for other babies as other mothers recommend it.

CHRISTINA - posted on 02/17/2009

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I believe every baby is different, one of my girls wouldn't drink more than 2 oz every 5 - 6 hours and of course she wasn't gaining weight. However, the dr. didn't recomend me to put cereal in her bottle until she was about 4 months old. I also noticed that when i use to put cereal in her bottle she would get very constipated. She is now 10 months old, drinks 5 oz every 3 - 4 hours, and weights 16 lbs. Her sister driks 6 oz every 3 - 4 hrs. and weights 21 pounds, that means every baby is different. I would always take advice from the doctors, my mother and my mother in-laws, but at the end i would do whatever i though it was best for my girls.

Ally - posted on 02/17/2009

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Quoting Tara:



I would like to request that anyone providing comments that include terms like "proven" also include some sites or articles that back that up.  Having grown up in a medical home and having been a nurse, I find it misleading to simply tell someone "it's been proven" just because that's what you've heard.  I also wish to inform that there are medical studdies that will back up BOTH SIDES OF MOST MEDICAL ARGUEMENTS.  Food for thought.






that is a great idea!



Here are some of my favorites on this topic..



 



http://www.kellymom.com/nutrition/solids...

Jolene - posted on 02/17/2009

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Is this honestly what this thread has turned into? People arguing with eachother about "right" or "wrong". She posted a question asking about this issue...post your opinion or expirience and get on with it. There is 1 nurse saying this is horrible, and another nurse saying it isn't. There are always going to be different opinions about any issue. All you can do is take advice from your doctor, from in-laws and grandparents, other moms, and some sense from yourself to make your desicions. Good luck Ashley, and I hope whatever you choose works for you and baby!

Sarah - posted on 02/17/2009

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thank you Ally! finally someone with some real common sence. my points exactly.

no doubt someone will argue against it though. even though your a nurse and know what you are talking about. :)

Ally - posted on 02/17/2009

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Quoting Joelle:



Quoting Rebekah:

no dont give her cereal its dangerous xxx it can affect her bowels x





Since when this is dangerous ??? LOL !!!! how did we manage to suvive the last XXXX years without modern Drs. telling you all bunch of nonsense stuff ???? - My mom - back in the 1940s used to add flour in the formula! - (cooked of course) how did we survive this horrible things ??? EXPERIENCE My dear! - bowels problems ???? NO WAY - Just a little common sense PLEASE .... don't panic and don't over react to those things !!! LOL






A young Great - grandma !!!!






It has always been dangerous! But like many other things like (sleeping babies on their tummies and using alcohol for teething) we KNOW BETTER NOW. AS a registered nurse i find it not only foolish but very irresponsible to discount someones medically sound advice simply because ...your mom did it! ?? It has been scientifically proven through numerous studies that starting solids before 4-6 months of age can in fact cause food allergies and lead to childhood obesity and juvenile diabetes. Not to mention the biggie that it is a huge choking hazard!! And if you look at the mortality rates back in the "good old days" you will realize that many of those babies did not survive. we are living longer healthier lives now due to the research that has now been put into evidenced based practice.



 



 



Babies were not designed to sleep through the night.  Frequent night waking is the protective mechanism that keeps them alive and moms milk supply up...i suggest you spend some time getting up on the current and healthier alternatives in order to benefit the babies in your care.

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I tried adding cereal because I had people left and right (including my MIL) telling me that my baby would sleep better. It made absolutely NO difference in his feeding patterns. Newborns are going to and should have night time feedings. They say breastfeeding is best but is that is not true for everyone (I breastfeed until the doctor told me to add a bottle). You can be just as snugglely (actually more) with a bottle, BTW, if you do switch formulas be very careful and weans from one to another. I learned that the hard way as it cause severe diahrea (the Enfamil AR was the worst). My son is now seven months old, eating and sleeping just like he is suppose to. Those 12am, 2am and 4am feedings will stop eventually (and if you are getting 3 to 4 hours you are doing well).

Sarah - posted on 02/17/2009

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all baby packaging and jars do have from 4 months or from 6 months + on them. well atleast in the uk. and in this country you'd probably have the social come and take your kid if they knew you was giving an 8 week baby anything other than breast or formula milk.

as for a 9 month eating pork chops of the bone that is impressive. but then a 9 month baby is allowed to eat pretty much what ever they want aslong as its not covered in salt or sugar.

if you are going to put her on baby rice or any food make sure her stools still say soft and dark yellow. and dont give it to her in every feed or even every day.

trust me her stomach will now be ready for it. the formular is all she needs.

have you thought about cow and gate formula milk for hungrier babies? insted of cerial or rice. its important that giving her anything other than milk for babies is the absalute last result. i dont think you should use it at all.

its your choice, you'll have to deal with the consiquences.

Tara - posted on 02/17/2009

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I would like to request that anyone providing comments that include terms like "proven" also include some sites or articles that back that up.  Having grown up in a medical home and having been a nurse, I find it misleading to simply tell someone "it's been proven" just because that's what you've heard.  I also wish to inform that there are medical studdies that will back up BOTH SIDES OF MOST MEDICAL ARGUEMENTS.  Food for thought.

Cindy - posted on 02/17/2009

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I guess I may be the exception to the rule. I've been reading through the posts and I see most are saying don't do it. I have a 5 year old and a 3 year old. My five year old was taking full bottles every 3 hours at 6 weeks old. My mom (as all our mothers do!) suggested doing the cereal in the bottle. My children have had no problems either then or now. My personal thought on it, ask the doctor, see what they say. Even if they say no, you are still the mother of that child and it is your choice. There is a difference between checking with your doctor and doing exactly what the doctor says every time. The doctors are NOT always right. You have to find what works best for your child and yourself.

Tara - posted on 02/17/2009

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I have not heard about food alergies related to plain cereal.  My daughter was getting cereal at 2 1/2 weeks, Our doctor said just to monitor how she reacts to it (how she digests).  I had pretty much guessed that anyway.  Everyone is different, and develops different, so nobody can difinitively say what will be the perfect choice for you child until it's tested.



'Recomendations' are usually pushed out to insure that the late bloomers are covered by the medical suggestions.  Keep this in mind when you talk to your doc.  I am lucky to have a doc who is completely frank and gives me complete truths instead of statistics or 'current medical journal suggestions'.



My oldest is 14, baby is 3, I am the only one who's ever needed antibiotics.  Neither has any alergies.  Neither has ever had digestive problems.  They both slep 6-8hrs around 2mos.  Ect.   Like I said, everyone's different.  My daughter was eating pork chops off the bone at 9mos.  Doc was impressed, not concerned.



You're going to find that feeding your child (like every other subject) is typically going to end up somewhere in between the most extreem suggestion and the most conservitive recomendation.  Trial and error is your best friend from now on.  Only you will know for sure the best choices for you child.  Only you, with or without everyone's input.



Good Luck!

Teri-Lyn - posted on 02/17/2009

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do whatever you feel you need to, the rice cereal is the easiest to digest, n honestly if we were all not supposed to feed even the baby foods until 6 months wouldnt they say 6 months on all the jars n not have jars that say from birth on them? if u try her with the rice cereal n she spits it out a lot or throws up more often, she's not ready, if shes fine with it then there ya go, c how it works 4 u. my sons 5 months n he's eating the baby foods, he still gets formula for breakfast n before bed, but the rest of the day he gets mad at me if i try n give him formula, ur daughter will let u kno wut she doesnt want

Amy - posted on 02/17/2009

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I'm sorry but I agree with sarah. There have been studies done for all of this and I would never put my daughters health in any danger. She wanted to be fed every 3 hours at 7 weeks and her bottles were 6 ounces. She's now 13 weeks and has formula every 4 hours and it's 6 1/2 ounces. I would just keep with giving your daughter just the formula b/c she will gain weight and it will die down and not be so bad

Sarah - posted on 02/17/2009

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that was years ago. back in the day in fact when doctor thought smoking was fine juring pregnancy. we should all know better now.

babies are ment to feed every 2 or so hours in the early weeks, they have no fat reserves yet and they get that from milk. as for sleeping same thing, most babies dont sleep hours on end at night straight away. its normal.

i feel its very selfish to ignore doctors advise just so you can have more sleep or a break from feeding, especially when it CAN caurse very bad problems with your baby.

doing what is best for your child should take priority over doing whats best for yourself.

my boy still only sleeps for 4 hours at most and he is on baby rice, breast and formula fed too. when he was born he was perminately attached to my breast. i suffer from clinical depression so it was very very hard but i never gave up and did what other people told me to do. because what they may have done is proven to be harmful. i would never put my child at any risk just to make life easy for me.

Keri - posted on 02/17/2009

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Its hard to listen to your doctor all of the time since you are the one watching your baby cry from hunger with feeding gaps getting shorter and shorter. My doctor said the same thing, but MY best advice came from my grandmother-in-law. She was a peditric nurse for 38 years so I called her out of pure desperation. She told me that the hospitals used to give rice or barley to babies so that they would gain enough weight to be released from the hospital. You have to take it slow but within 1 week my son, that was previously eating every 2 hours, was sleeping 8-9 hour stretches through the night. I had to switch to rice only when I noticed that the barley was too heavy and was making his bowel movements hard. I have since fed rice to my other 2 children and have had good results from it everytime.... and I got to sleep also! Do what you think is right, but none of my children have developed food allergies (they eat everything) and my oldest is now 15 with no adverse effects.

Gena - posted on 02/17/2009

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Congratulations on your beautiful little girl. There's really no positive effect to adding cereal. My sons doctor, he is now 15 months old, said they get everything they need from the breastmilk or formula and all the cereal is doing is adding unnecessary calories. I've heard people have done this in the past so the baby will sleep longer but if she is sleeping normally I don't see why you would want to do this.

Amy - posted on 02/17/2009

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I was having the same feeding problems with my daughter and after getting her 2 month needles and check up my doctor just recommened to keep her just on formula. She mentioned that the cereal can be heavy on a baby's stomach that young and may cause problems

Amy - posted on 02/17/2009

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I was having the same feeding problems with my daughter and after getting her 2 month needles and check up my doctor just recommened to keep her just on formula. She mentioned that the cereal can be heavy on a baby's stomach that young and may cause problems

Sarah - posted on 02/17/2009

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can i just add formula milk in design to be as close to breast milk as possible and breast milk is all your child needs as a young baby otherwise breast would be a pointless waste of evolusions time. on demand feeding is all your child needs. basically give your baby a bottle or formula when ever they need it without anything added in it. they will soon gain the weight and slow down with feeding.

seriously, do you really want to go against doctors that have studied and tested the affects of food before the 4-6 months and risk your childs life?

Sarah - posted on 02/17/2009

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i will say it again. giving you child anything other than formula or breast milk before 4-6 months is a absalute no no. all the mothers that do it and their child is fine are just the lucky ones (stupid for doing it but lucky) you childs body is not ready at such a young age (why do you think we have breast for god sake). you child will let you know in time when he/she is ready for something more than milk. dont idnore doctors or midwifes. they know more about it becuase its there job to know. mothers dont always know best. if you want to risk hurting your child or killing your child becuase of something some other woman told you she use to do, on your head be it. your the one that will have to live with the aftermath if it all goes wrong.

always listen to doctors and midwifes and NEVER give your child anything other than breast or formular milk until 4-6months.

Holly - posted on 02/16/2009

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The doctor will tell you its a No--No not only r u at risk for allergies, it makes the formula too thick for her to suck through the nipple, you think its filling her up and she eats less of it because of the cereal but she actually gets tired faster sucking so hard and falls asleep and wakes up just as frequently for more because she didnt get her fill the first time!

Stephanie - posted on 02/16/2009

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My mother also did this with all 5 of her kids but they do tell you not to do it. I did not do it with mine but I don't see the problem with it.

Rebecca - posted on 02/16/2009

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I have 2 girls.  My 1st ate alot and often and she still does and is a string bean!!  I think she has a fast metabolism which is great, but it made for sleepless nights for a long time.  My second eats alot 2, but she has gained weight quicker and slept better.  Don't do it unless you are at your wits end.  Once they get heavy enough, they will go longer and sleep longer too.  You may have to decide to stop feeding in the middle of the night, but that is a long time off.  Babies need to have a certain amount of body fat to sleep.  They can not hold as much food as us at a time so they need it more often.  I think until babies are heavy enough and old enough, they just need to eat.



 



 

Malinda - posted on 02/16/2009

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While it is true that trends in feeding have changed over time, so have infant and child mortality rates. Rice does not provide the nutrition that your child needs at this age - only breast milk or formula can do that. Rice only provides empty callories and can indeed cause a child harm.

Kyla - posted on 02/16/2009

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Here`s is the experience in my family. My sister has a son that is just over 4 months old now but when he was 8 weeks her Mother in law told her to do the same thing. So my sister started putting a little but of cereal in with his bottle at bedtime. It caused such bad constipation to where he was pushing so hard that he caused himself to have a hemrrhoid and a fisher (tear on his anus). All the dr could do was give her some cream and let it heal on it`s own. This was caused by the rice cereal in his bottle and once she stopped putting it in he started getting better. So yes it can be dangerous to some babies. You just never know which babies will have problems.

Kimberly - posted on 02/16/2009

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I wouldn't recommend giving your child cereal at this age. I gave my son cereal too early (around 8 wks) and he got badly constipated and ended up with an impacted bowel. We almost lost him.

Judy - posted on 02/16/2009

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Ashley; I'm a mom to 5 married children 11 grandchildren; I've given all the babies cereal in their bottles; especially my son as his appetite grew I even put eggnog granuels in his bottle/ his cereal & he wd. not drink his bottle without it. lol; but its so true. when the babies need more feedings they are still hungry especially nite time bottles they sleep all nite. thicken milk or formula with more cereal as she gets older; this is old school advice; if you run to ask ur Dr. every little thing you'll go broke listen to ur moth-in-law she knows what she's doing she wd. never want to hurt the baby; God Bless Judy

Sarah - posted on 02/16/2009

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My son was the same way and everyone told me to do that but it's not really necessary. I started giving my son cereal from a spoon at about 3 months and he loved. Some say that is early but he was ready to eat from a spoon. I would talk to your doctor but they get everything they need with formula. People also told me to give it to him in a bottle right before bed and he wopuld sleep longer through the night but this did not work for him. At about 3 mths he was sleeping straight through 8 hours and that was great!

Joelle - posted on 02/16/2009

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Quoting Rebekah:

no dont give her cereal its dangerous xxx it can affect her bowels x


Since when this is dangerous ??? LOL !!!! how did we manage to suvive the last XXXX years without modern Drs. telling you all bunch of nonsense stuff ???? - My mom - back in the 1940s used to add flour in the formula! - (cooked of course) how did we survive this horrible things ??? EXPERIENCE My dear! - bowels problems ???? NO WAY - Just a little common sense PLEASE .... don't panic and don't over react to those things !!! LOL



A young Great - grandma !!!!

Joelle - posted on 02/16/2009

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Drs change their mind depending on the fashion or the newest discovery! - at one time, doctors would start babies on meats !!! - I thought it was totally ridiculous - Cereals do not hurt a baby - they feel satisfied - and sleep much better with a full stomach! - if the baby takes in so much milk - the stomach dilate too much - the baby is obviously hungry - a little common sense from the mother goes a long way - your child is not a statistic - you do not have to do everything Drs. tell you about food! - get to know your child - use wisdom - start little at a time and see the child's reaction.
from a great grandma!

Jamie - posted on 02/16/2009

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ALL 3 OF MY KIDS WERE THE SAME WAY THE DR IS GOING TO TELL U ITS NOT A GOOD IDEA BUT IT NEVER HURT MY KIDS I FEEL IF THEY ARE HUNGRY THEY R HUNGRY I DONT THINK IT WILL HURT HER AT ALL

Joelle - posted on 02/16/2009

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Quoting Tobey:

My doc said not to do that. I dont know the reasons but my MIL also told me to do it and that she did it with all 4 of her kids. I guess it is just not necessary unless your little one is not gaining weight properly.


 

Joelle - posted on 02/16/2009

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If you listen to everything doctors tell you, you will never know on which foot to dance on!
in other words .... each dr has his/her own way and experience. When a child drinks such quantity, it enlarge the stomach way too much. a little rice cereal is very good, I used to add a little banana baby fruits with it to make it taste better. I did this at 10:00 AM - and 6:00 PM - with the last feeding at 10:00 PM - and the children would sleep all night! - my grand daughter slept all night around 6 wks ! = Less quantity and better quality!

Sarah - posted on 02/16/2009

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NEVER EVER EVER put any food in your babies formula, espesially at that age. babies stomaches can not take anythink othr than milk designed especially for them. if you give your baby anything other than breast or formula milk you are not only increasing the chance of food allergies but also caursing them a great amount of pain as thier digestive system is not fully developed enough for food.

not until 6 months should your child have anything other than breast or formula milk. if your doctor or health visitor says at four months for older that your child is ready and showing signs they want it then thats fine.

grandparents are often wrong about alot of things.

i mean would you ever think about putting rum on a babies teether to dull the pain? yet alot of older women swear by it and its proven to be very dangerous. just like giving a baby any thing other than breast or formula before 4-6 months.

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My doc said not to do that. I dont know the reasons but my MIL also told me to do it and that she did it with all 4 of her kids. I guess it is just not necessary unless your little one is not gaining weight properly.

Claire - posted on 02/16/2009

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babies really don't need solids till 6months please please don't give her cereal, eating 3-4hourly for a "newborn" is normal. Enjoy her.

User - posted on 02/16/2009

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My son was the same way...the docs and nurses just told me to let him eat until he's full..but don't add cereal to his diet. I freaked out bc i thought he was getting too big too fast but he soon fell into a routine and leveled out...so i wouldn't worry i would just keep using formula

Jolene - posted on 02/16/2009

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I did it with my daughter at 6 weeks old...no problems or allergies. Every baby is different though...what may be okay with one baby may not be with another.

Rene - posted on 02/16/2009

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When my babies were that small, they often ate every 2 hours, and my daughter could not eat grains even at 6mths(she would get sick). So with my second baby, I didn't start him on grains until he was a year old, and he did great. He is almost 3 and he has never needed to be on an antibiotic. It just takes awhile for most babies to be able to tolerate grains.

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