Sex offender on my child's future school campus - for possession of child pornography...

Alura - posted on 03/17/2013 ( 67 moms have responded )

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Also, my son's future daycare is on the campus..... can I make a complaint? I don't know if I'll be able to control myself if I see him...

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Dana - posted on 03/20/2013

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I haven't read all of the other posts here but I think I'd want to find out more information before starting too much. If he is only 19 and already convicted, it probably happened right after he turned 18. Not that it would make it better, but how do you know it wasn't just a matter of his girlfriend was under 18 and her parents were upset by their relationship? I actually know somebody who had a situation like that. He was a couple years older than her, they'd been dating a couple years and her parents didn't approve. They had a pregnancy scare, he just turned 18, she was almost 17 and her parents had charges pressed. I'm not saying it was right, but haven't most of us been those kind of teenagers? I don't consider him a sex offender at all, just somebody who made some really bad choices. If his situation is anything like that, your child wouldn't be in any kind of danger at all from him. I know I'll get attacked for this post but it's just another way to look at things.

Shawnn - posted on 03/28/2013

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Morgan,

If you would take a second to actually READ the responses that you are getting, rather than picking and choosing which sentences you want to argue with, you'd see that Krist and I actually are closer to being in agreement with you than you think.

You stated: "My whole purpose to getting on this thread in the first place was hopefully to get you guys to realize that the title Sex Offender is not always the be all end all of this story."

Apparently you failed to see the numerous times that both Kristi and I (and Jodi) stated "The term Sex Offender can be misleading, as it is applied in EVERY case, whether it's the case of a 19 YO with a 17 YO girlfriend...etc". We've all advocated to the OP to RESEARCH the person, and his alleged offense, and to respond accordingly, NOT to go over the top screaming "baby raper"!

I'm so happy that you feel so blessedly comfortable with your job and your 3 years of knowledge to continue to expose your child to a 'recovering' sexual offender. I would, at the very least, hope that his offense did not involve children.

And, as I've said, each person makes their own decision in the matter. You've decided that sexual offenders and sexual predators are ok to have your children around. I have decided the opposite, but will take each specific case into consideration before making my decision on a case by case basis. If it is the case of the 19 YO who was dating a 17 YO with pissy parents, then they are NOT an offender, and deserve to be treated accordingly. If, however, they have spent time in prison after pleading guilty to being a sexual predator, then they ARE an offender, and will be kept from my family.

Shawnn - posted on 03/27/2013

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Now, my advice to Alura is to do several things:
1) CHECK THE LISTINGS. You can do an online search for registered sex offenders in your area.
2) DO NOT ASSUME that someone is a predator until you have the facts. More lives have been ruint by rumors than you'll ever know
3) If this person is a student, and not employed by the daycare, but has children himself at the daycare, and he is IN FACT, registered, there will already have been steps taken to keep the children away from this person.
4) The sex offender registry has nothing to do with a person's right to education. IF this person is on the registered list, you are aware of him, and know to keep your kids away. This in no way endangers the safety of yourself, nor does it put your children in jeopardy, as long as you as the parent are aware of the situation and treat it appropriately.
5) If this person is on the registry, and does approach you or your child inappropriately, report him.

The fact of the matter is, without doing further research, you don't know if this person was a 19 YO dating a 17 YO who's parents got pissy and reported him as a molester. You don't know if he was a 16 YO who got a picture of his minor girlfriend's anatomy on his phone, which (as I believe Jodi pointed out) would result in an automatic "sex offender" title.

Do your research and react appropriately. But DO NOT depend on us for the correct answers. YOU need to research this situation on your own. Contact your local law enforcement, as well as your Dean of Students to start.

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So every state is different but here is the most common way this works. Once a SO servers their time whether that is DOC, or Probation and complete the programs required by the court, they no longer have the 1000ft restriction. If you look him up and it states that he has completed all of the requirements and has severed his time, there is nothing you can do. Also most Colleges require SOs to register with the colleges. If he is a registered SO he will be required to be registered with the school, and report to the county that he is going to school. The schools should know he is there. SO's are people too. I completely agree that we need to protect our children and that the things SO's have done are horrible nasty things. This does not mean they do not have a right to go to school, and try to move past what they have done and become contributing members of society.

Side Note: If you notice he is hanging out around the day care I would report it to campus security so they are aware of what is going on.

Enna - posted on 03/19/2013

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I love how so many people are DEFENDING the sex offender. Nonsense. You can make up as many innocent stories as you want, but the fact of the matter is that this could easily be one of the really bad sex offenders, you don't know. You need to check the laws in your state (calling the police department may be a good option.) Many states do have a radius that sex offenders have to avoid regarding places where minors predominantly occupy, like schools and daycare centers. Not just where they live, but where they're allowed to go.

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Alicia - posted on 04/16/2013

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To the lady that lets a SO around her children: how crappy would you feel if that "recovering" SO molested your child? Think about it.......please.
I don't mean to be offensive but we're not discussing you, we're discussing a child.

Alicia - posted on 04/16/2013

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Realy, people? Answer OP's ? and move on!

OP: Say something. That's your child. I don't care what the "circumstance" was. Possession of child pornogrophy is just that, child pornography. I don't want to sound harsh or scare you or whatever, but how terrible would you feel if you didn't say anything and something happened to your child?
Second, actually, third: If the school doesn't want to do anything, pull your child out of there!!!!! Find a better school-one that doesn't accommodate perverts.

Cindy - posted on 04/15/2013

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You definitely need to speak up and out about this. I was a victim of such an ordeal as a child age 10. The man i am talking about also abused his 5 year old nephew. This man got away with it and only got good behaviour and no conviction. He now has 5 children and lives across the road from a primary school. I am now 28 and cry that I don't trust around my child. You would never want any child to go through the trauma believe me it will haunt them for life. Please do it for the safety of the children and their innocence. Do not allow it to be stolen from them.

Karen - posted on 04/15/2013

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I feel strongly about this subject having worked in a psychiatric ward, I say automatic execution for ANY person who sexually harms a child. A dead man cannot re offend, you will never have the ability to trust them. Why sacrifice the innocence of a child when it could be prevented! Please consider your children's safety first. The psychological effects in children in a young age are FAR worse then that of a grown adult dealing with the situation. I know this may seem very harsh and is not by any means directed to anyone, but a person knows right from wrong and if you feel that you are in doing wrong then SEEK HELP.

Shauna - posted on 04/15/2013

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Morgan,
I was being respectful, I was looking out for your child. I don't care what they were in trouble for. They are classified as sex offenders for a reason and if there are restrictions on them and that they cannot go around children why would you let one live in your house. I understand that you want to help them get their lives back, but they made the decisions to do what they did and they should take responsibility for what they did and just because they served time in prison doesn't mean that they actually took responsibility for it.

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Well thank you for you opinion Shauna and the attack.
I thought this was supposed to be a website for mothers to be respectful and helpful to each other. Guess its a place for women to attack others without even wanting to know the facts. This is not somewhere I need to be. I wish you the best.
Kristi that is a great article, thank you for posting the realities of Human Trafficking and what those look like today. The man in that article was using the skills of luring that pimps use to rape women. Disgusting.

Shauna - posted on 04/14/2013

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Morgan,
You stated in your post about having a sex offender in your home. I just want to say that you are down right stupid. You stated that can not be within 1000ft of daycares, schools, etc and you are letting him live in your house, REALLY. How stupid do you really have to be. Granted some of them may not have had serious crimes but the adults that have abused kids should rot in hell. The law here in MO states that registered sex offenders can not be within so many feet of children as you stated and they are not even allowed to be in the same household. Also if they are in prison here they are not even allowed to have a child on the visiting list even if they are family. You are also right when you stated that sex offenders are not going to abuse your children in front of you but what about when you leave the room. HELLO do you not think about things like that. I think that you need to reevaluate your decision to let a sex offender in your house and around you child.

To Alura,
I would definitely say something to the police. Yes, you don't know all of the facts but the person is a sex offender and therefore they can not be around children or work with children whatsoever. Please whatever you do don't take advice from Morgan, she lets a sex offender live with her child.

Alexandra Van - posted on 04/03/2013

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im pretty sure sex offenders arent allowed within a certain distance of places children are (daycares, schools, parks, ect) id talk to someone about that.

Meagan - posted on 04/01/2013

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You don't know someone's full story. Do you have an idea how easy it is for a 17 year old girl to say she was with someone and all of a sudden an innocent man is registered because of that? There's a guy who was 18 who was with a sophomore, 2 years, no big deal right? She skipped two years and was actually like 14, never said anything to him, and he's now listed for life. Another man was 3 months out of the 3 year span with a girl he was with and her parents got mad, now he's 28 and has been registered for a decade and will stay that way for life. Another one got stalked by a pyscho who kept showing up at the college when she was 14, (word around her mom's job is that she had been actively involved in sexual parties with her mom since she was 12). He rejected her, (especially since he did not even know who she was) and she started spreading rumors that they were together. It takes NOTHING to get a person listed out of spite, hate or jealousy and for someone to get on someone else's computer takes about five seconds to plug in a USB and transfer files or do some google searches. Some people deserve what they get but you cannot judge someone until you hear their side. I know some really great people who have found themselves in that situation and their lives are already an unnecessary hell, unless you personally see him showing unusual behavior, let the man live what little life he has left.

Kristi - posted on 03/30/2013

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Just found this delightful little article by happenstance, while I was trying to find the latest information about the case of the two teens who shot a sleeping baby in his stroller because his mom had no money to give them, this was in Atlanta. This article was in the same online resource.

Not relevant to the OP but just an interesting tidbit to toss out there relating to the "background debate," if you will. Do predators repeat physically and regularly or rarely and without relation to sexual abuse?

http://norcross.patch.com/articles/polic...

Just a few key words and/or phrases from this article:

Luring
Teenage girls
Prostitution
Rape
Human trafficking
More victims

Kristi - posted on 03/29/2013

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Was everybody else kicked out of school, arrested and jailed? Were they all really taking pictures (I assume) of their penises and showing them around?

This post seems a little simplistic and incomplete.

And this really has nothing to do with this specific thread. If you're wondering if we think he should be on a SO registry then start a new conversation so it can be recognized and debated properly.

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I was answering Kristi's question. not arguing with you. she ask which off the offenders would you let around you and your child. my answer was one who passed a polygraph about abusing children.

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I have a sex offender also living in my home. going through counseling, still on probation, trying to go to school and currently dealing with the school and the court to be able to move forward in life. I am involved in every step of this process. Yes me and my son are alone with the SO every day.
So yes I have a dog in this fight. My whole purpose to getting on this thread in the first place was hopefully to get you guys to realize that the title Sex Offender is not always the be all end all of this story. I initially got on here and only posted facts about SO supervision and probation. And the research so my situation would not be brought in. But it seems that is not sufficient.
The 10 SO in the counseling group have charges that range from indecency through texting, to child molestation and rape. I deal with them, their thoughts and feelings. How they abused those children is horrible, disgusting. There is 1 out of the 10 that does not recognize what they did was wrong. The rest are very remorseful and want to change. Some of them have been in counseling for 5 years so they can have no more victims. The courts don't play games with SO. The SO in my house has the 1000ft restriction from schools(not colleges), daycares, pools, parks, and anywhere that children congregate. Polygraphs every year or more if needed, no travel, no movies, no bowling, no church. We live our lives in the bubble that is our house. The courts are encouraging higher education, so she can get a better job. Most SO are put on Differed Adjudication. This means they will not get convicted if they finish probation. This does not effect their registration status. Even when the SO in my house finishes probation she will not be a convicted felon, but will still have to register for life. Would I leave any of the other dependents in that group alone with my son? NO, not under any circumstances. Do 5 of them have full contact with their own children? yes. The SO in my house had to take 4 different tests to verify she was not attracted to children, and had to polygraph that she had never abused a child with knowledge. That is why she is allowed to be around my son. No one else in that counseling group can pass that question in a polygraph.
Sex Offenders have the same thinking errors as anyone else, but they don't have boundaries. teaching your children to set boundaries is crucial to protecting themselves.
No sex offender is going to abuse your child when you are in the room. Most SO know their victims and their families. They gain trust with everyone involved. Including the Mom's. Every SO in that group was friends with the parents of their victims. Everyone of them had unsupervised access to their victims. The only thing that seemed out of the ordinary to the outside world was the child's actions and the child's outcry. Teach your children to talk to you.
So again I will post this is the best way to protect your child from being sexually abused:
Prepare and educate your children. Teach them what healthy contact and abusive contact looks like. Use clinical terms for their private areas. Teach them what manipulation is, and what false intimacy looks like. Model appropriate boundaries for them. Be aware of who they are hanging out with and where they are spending their time. Keep the lines of communication open, and teach them how to say no.
And Shawnn this is what I said. Put it all together look at the whole thought don't pull out one sentence and call me a liar. The original statement implied ALL will reoffend. That is not true. hense the research
False: Rapists and pedophiles are sexual predators and they are incapable of change and they will reoffend, physically.
Fact:About 12 to 24% of sex offenders WILL REOFFEND[16]. When sex offenders do commit another crime, it is more often not sexual or violent

Kristi - posted on 03/27/2013

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Not that it matters if Morgan doesn't return but I actually stated, I DO distinct between sex offenders and sexual predators. Shawnn and I both advocated for Alura to get the facts before she goes on the offensive, as have many other moms on this thread. It would appear to me that Morgan is making the blanket statements here.

The studies are indeed, incorrect because they are only counting people who have been caught by victims that report, that are taken seriously, who did not get their crime pled out, that got convicted and then got caught again and rinse and repeat.

There are so many victims out there that have not come forward. There are predators that know the legal system better than most attorneys and know how to keep their activities on the down low. Just ask Jerry Sandusky's victims.

Good luck in your efforts, Morgan. Just out of curiosity, which one of your SO's would you trust alone with your daughter or you. Or do you believe you have an understanding of them, so you'd be able to talk your way out?

I am not being sarcastic. I seriously would like to know where you are coming from, not some puffed up feel good about SO's stat sheet.

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Well you guys can keep attacking the statistics. No skin off my nose. Every link, and all the research must be wrong. All Sex Offenders no matter the degree of the offense are horrible nasty people who should never be allowed to live among st the angels of society every again.

I am done with this thread. Good Luck

Shawnn - posted on 03/27/2013

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Oh, no, Morgan, I did look at the links, and agree with Kristi C. They are skewed to make the predator appear in a better light. Like I said. You have 3 years, I have 25 years experience. And my experience is relevant, in that the question was about the possibility of a predatory person with concern to child pornography.

Quoting Kristi: "I gotta tell ya, I'm almost inclined to believe it was written by a sexual predator or a group of them. It takes the fact that sexual abuse can happen to anyone, anywhere, by anyone and instead of that being alarming, the author manipulates that into sounding like, "See, SO's aren't any different from the rest of us. This behavior goes on all the time, even more than statistics tell us, so it really shouldn't surprise you when it happens anymore." It's almost normal for goodness sakes!" This is EXACTLY how each of your links came across to me.

You stated ""False: Rapists and pedophiles are sexual predators and they are incapable of change and they will reoffend, physically."

You said it's false. IT IS MOST DEFINITELY NOT FALSE. This is a true statement, as echoed by my own experience and conversation with a rapist and sexual predator.

I'll stick with my own guidelines, thanks very much.

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shawnn.
I never said none of them would ever offend. I have the statistics about all sex offenders. the man you are talking about is a pedophile. that is one type of so.
The only way my statement is misleading is if you don't look at any of the links or statistics that I posted with it.

Shawnn - posted on 03/27/2013

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Morgan, while I don't wish to offend you, I must state that your statement "False: Rapists and pedophiles are sexual predators and they are incapable of change and they will reoffend, physically." is misleading.

You, my dear, may have worked with predators for 3 years, but I've lived with one in my family for 25 years, and my husband has lived with that same predator in the family for 48 years. And that predator, along with all of his sick little buddies, told me that those "studies" are slanted in order to "try" to get a sexual predator viewed in a different light. However, he also told me that he (even now, in his late 80's) is eager to continue the predatory behaviour. He told me personally that a predator (especially an adult molester of minor children) always looks for ways to get his "fix". They continually try to figure out a way around the system.

He also told me that, if a predator is truly remorseful, and truly wishes to change (which is rare in his experience, and that of his fellow predators), the very best thing is for people to completely cut of all interaction between that predator and his target group, thus the reason that my father in law was told in no uncertain terms by me: "I will personally shoot your testicles off and leave you to bleed out and die in the desert if I ever find out that you have harmed any of my minor nieces/nephews. And you will NEVER be allowed to know my children outside of photographs and email."

And he thanked me for being aware of the situation, and assisting him in not reoffending.

Once a predator, always a predator. That does not, nor will it ever change.

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Well if you noticed my info about SO was a little more in depth than common knowledge its because I deal with SO on a weekly basis. You say your info comes from people that deal with them regularly. I have been regularly dealing with SO, prostitutes, and drug addicts for about 3 years. I understand the cycle of abuse, how triggers work, and what thinking errors are most common among SO. I also know about the counselling they need to go through, and what that looks like. But I will provide a more links supporting the info I posted.
The high recidivism rate among sex offenders is repeated so often that it is usually accepted as truth, but in fact recent studies show that the recidivism rates for sex offenses is not unusually high. According to a U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics study ("Recidivism of Sex Offenders Released from Prison in 1994"), just five percent of sex offenders followed for three years after their release from prison in 1994 were arrested for another sex crime. A study released in 2003 by the Bureau found that within three years, 3.3 percent of the released child molesters were arrested again for committing another sex crime against a child. Three to five percent is hardly a high repeat offender rate.
http://www.livescience.com/776-predator-...
According to a study by the U.S. Department of Justice, 5.3% of American sex
offenders are rearrested for a new sex crime within three years (Bureau of Justice Statistics, 2003). It is true
that the sex offenders were four times more likely than other criminals to be arrested again for new sex crimes. Noteworthy, however, is that the DOJ found that many more new sex crimes were committed by other types of criminals (87%) than by previously identified sex offenders (13%).
http://www.leg.state.vt.us/workGroups/se...
They found a rate of 14 percent over a period averaging five to six years. Recidivism rates increased over time, reaching 24 percent by 15 years. The figures are clearly out of alignment with the public’s more dire expectations.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/articl...

I am not going to keep citing stuff. I feel like this is sufficient. I am not trying to say I know everything and all there is about SO. I would consider myself more knowledgeable about the field than your average person.(since I work with them regularly). You might not think I should "know it all" But, I posted accurate information and cited supporting resources. The facts are there. The research has been done. Outside of sharing that with this community, plus my first had knowledge of the situation I don't know what else I can do to help equip this community for dealing with the everyday threat that is out there. YES SO are everywhere, and The reality is SO usually don't abuse children when there is someone around to stop it. The best way to protect our children is to teach them to protect themselves.
You are making blanket statements as fact. That to me seems more "know it all" than me citing sources to back up my statements
http://meganslaw.ca.gov/facts.htm
http://www.stopitnow.org/faqs

Kristi - posted on 03/27/2013

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Morgan--

I am the one that said rapists and pedophiles are sexual predators who are incapable of change and will reoffend. Since you stated that was false, I read your article. I try very hard to keep an open mind, as I've learned the hard way on here not to be too quick "to know it all."

I gotta tell ya, I'm almost inclined to believe it was written by a sexual predator or a group of them. It takes the fact that sexual abuse can happen to anyone, anywhere, by anyone and instead of that being alarming, the author manipulates that into sounding like, "See, SO's aren't any different from the rest of us. This behavior goes on all the time, even more than statistics tell us, so it really shouldn't surprise you when it happens anymore." It's almost normal for goodness sakes!

For those of you who do get caught and convicted, just serve your time. Once you're out, if you reoffend, we can blame it on society for making it too hard for you to get a good job, in a nice neighborhood where there are good mental health professionals who will REteach you right from wrong. Of course, for pedophiles, they would first have to admit that the "special kind of love" they have for children is wrong and unnatural.

I'm sticking with what I know to be true for the vast majority of predators and I know I'm not alone on where I stand. My sources are only people in law enforcement and in the mental health field that have experience with these predators. Note, I distinct between offender and predator. Predators are the repeaters and the teachers. If you think they don't exist, then you are sorely mistaken.

Regardless, I fully appreciate the conclusion of your comment. It is excellent advice that can benefit us all.

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Alura untimately what you do is up to you. I agree with Kristi that we don't have enough info to give you accurate advice.
There are a lot of untrue things in the thread being stated as facts. Let me clear the air.
False: However, research shows that a convicted child predator is 90% more likely to offend again and only 3% of the re-offenders are likely to be caught. Repeat offenders have organized groups that teach each other how to get away with crimes against children...
False: Rapists and pedophiles are sexual predators and they are incapable of change and they will reoffend, physically.
Fact:About 12 to 24% of sex offenders will reoffend[16]. When sex offenders do commit another crime, it is more often not sexual or violent
http://www.corrections.com/news/article/...
Partial False:Certain states have sex registeries and laws regarding how close an offender can legally be to a school. In Michigan is is 1000 feet.
Fact:Offenders only have restrictions if they are under supervision (probation or parole). These are conditions set by the court or parole board and may restrict where they can live, work, and who they may have contact with. These conditions may vary by each individual offender.
http://www.cityofwebster.com/index.aspx?...
Partially False: If had been on children he wouldn't be allowed around school.
Fact: SO on Supervision have restrictions based on their Parole or Probation Conditions. Normally the 1000 ft restrictions are not based on the age of the victim they are standard for any SO on Supervision.
False:If someone is on the sex offender list they should not be working on the campus of any school regardless.
Fact: Any School of Higher Education or Private school can set their own rules for who they can hire. Most SO's have no restrictions about attending college, as long as they report it to the school and the county.
False: Isn't that person not even supposed to be near there?!
See above

I would encourage you all to stop over reacting about this situation. Prepare and educate your children. Teach them what healthy contact and abusive contact looks like. Use clinical terms for their private areas. Teach them what manipulation is, and what false intimacy looks like. Model appropriate boundaries for them. Be aware of who they are hanging out with and where they are spending their time. Keep the lines of communication open, and teach them how to say no.
The reality is SO are everywhere, the best way to protect your children is to prepare them to protect themselves.

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Alura--

Your information is still very incomplete. I am a complete freak when it comes to protecting my daughter from predators. We role play, we talk about the latest trends sex traffickers are using to lure girls away, I never take her cell phone as a form of discipline because it is not a privilege, it is for safety. I monitor her accounts regularly and she is not allowed in chat rooms. I totally get where your anxiety is coming from. If this were a 30 year old man with a RECENT conviction for possession of child porn, I'd probably plaster his picture all over campus. I might get in trouble but hey...that's on me.

Have you even talked to the daycare facility yet? Do you know their pick up policy? From my experience with day cares, they are usually locked down pretty tight.

Unless you were a custodial parent you could not pick up a child. If you were on the authorized alternate pick up list, the parent still had to call in or let the staff know at drop off who would be picking up. That person would have to show a picture id.

Your child will never be naked in plain view of anyone but the teacher changing his/her diaper.

And, again, in my experience, people can't just pop in and look around. Prospective parents can take a supervised tour and current parents are welcome anytime but strangers or "favorite aunts and uncles" are not.

You have to verify that you indeed have a witch on your hands before you organize a witch hunt.

Amanda S.--

Just out of curiosity, who turned your friend in for child porn because of that picture on his cell phone? Were there lots of pictures of his son in his underwear in various poses? I'm not saying I don't believe you, not at all. That just sounds so excessive for one picture and again, how did authorities "discover" it in the first place? Sounds like a nightmare.

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I have read all the post and have to say you need to be careful. Don't go telling people on campus about him. I have a friend who got caught with a picture of his own son in his underwear on his own phone and had to go through all the court dates and what not. My friend took this picture because it was his son's first full day in underwear with no accidents and he was going to make a cute card to send to his parents who live 26 hours away. He used his phone because he doesn't have a camera. His name was never put on the list because the judge believed him. His son was brought in for questioning and told the judge that he wanted to make a no more diaper card. If he had been found guilty his name would have gone on the registry and he would have never seen his son again. If it was pictures of his girlfriend all it would have to be is pictures of her in a bikini or in a bra and underwear. Not saying it couldn't be more, but if it was really bad he wouldn't be allowed on campus. Chances are he was a stupid teenager with a stupid girlfriend who thought that sexting was a good idea. If that is the case then he has as much right to be there as the next. Not all people on the sex offender list are hardened criminals. If your boy/girl friend is under age and their parents don't a prove then you end up on the list. Don't go pointing fingers until you have all the facts. Oh and some collages and universities don't ask for criminal record checks because they do them on their own.

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Anyhoo, I should have also said, talk with the school to see what their policy is, then the daycare to determine safety and then decide if you want to g to the police..

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If this person has been convicted of possession of child porn, then why is he able to work around children??? This is illegal......

When you say campus, are you saying a place where kids go to school 18 years old and below, or a college campus? And even if it is a college campus, he still has to remain away from the children a considerable distance, but if the college doesn't have a rule not to hire a convcted sex offender, then he has a right to be there..

And yes, as I see many other women suggesting, there are many levels of convictions of child porn, but for thoes women who stated the least of the levels, (for example 2 teenagers one 16 and one 19) thoes kinds of situations are usually not as bad of a story than most others that involve much younger children..

But, but, but, I have a sex offender that lives on my block, and it was told to me that he did his time and maybe he won't stike again....it is not a mothers place to try to evaluate a criminal unrelated to you, to determine if your innocent child is safe around them. They are not, simple as that....

Don't take chances with your child, why let your babies be the test dummies to determine if someone is recovered?? Excuse me.. not mine!

And I must say, just because someone is convicted of one type of thing, does not mean that they didn't do many more things just the like and never got caught!

Moms, protect your children! Period!

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Has there been update as to what kind of campus this is and if this guy is a student or an employee? Do we know his current status, parole, probation or time served? Is there a post about how far into the "future" we are talking about for her son actually attending this daycare? If so, I have missed it. If not, then we are currently all wasting our breath because basically every suggestion has been put out there at least once, if not several times. It is impossible to give good, accurate advice on inaccurate or incomplete information.

Jodi - posted on 03/25/2013

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@ Cathy, child porn can be as simple as a 19 year old taking a photo of his naked 17 year old girlfriend, just saying.

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Each state names the sex offenders differently. I know of ppl in my town who are on the list but the act wad not on s child. The age was 19 with 17 and younger one parents got mad. So bc the person was not 18 it was listed as sex crime. I think best thing to do is see what crime was done. If had been on children he wouldn't be allowed around school. So I guess it something that was blown up more than needed.
I do not agree with child porn....to me that should be sex crime. Who knows who children are on the pic and what sick thoughts are being thought. Sick sick sick

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Follow your gut feelings. Make sure your information is accurate and report him. This man should not be around children!

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If someone is on the sex offender list they should not be working on the campus of any school regardless. The schools should be running a check on all employees and if the person in question was arrested and placed on the sex offender list the school should have known . Be sure this person is on the state list and take a copy of the information of the list and bring it with you when you go talk to them. They may be libel for not checking the list. You have a right to be concerned. If the person is not officially on the list or was not found guilty you must use your own judgment.

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the words "sex offender" do not always mean "child predator." Before you worry unneccessarily and move your child to another state for fear she may come into contact with this "horribly dangerous man", please get all your facts. You can speak to the school, and if he is an employee there, they should be willing to make you comfortable as to why they hired him. If they are not able to, then go to the police and ask the same thing. You have every right to make sure your child is safe, but in this case I think you're worrying without cause. I actually dated a "sex offender" for a while and while those words have a bad connotation, by finding out the true story, and what actually happened, I found a wonderful person who had made a stupid mistake. So please get all your facts before attacking someone who may not deserve it.

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For the record, I edited my last comment for spelling. I am borrowing an iPad and cannot scroll in my comment box so I'm sorry if I sound like I'm all over the place or if there errors that remain uncorrected.

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Missy--

You need to clarify your post. Jodi is correct that sex offender does not equal pedophile but I'm not quite sure what sex offenders you're referring to that don't usually reoffend. The kids that it sounds like most of us are guessing this particular sex offender to be (18 y/o boy sexting with younger girlfriend) don't usually reoffend. Rapists and pedophiles are sexual predators and they are incapable of change and they will reoffend, physically.

The reason we (our society) has an age of majority is because children don't have the capacity to truly understand the short and long term consequences of their actions. Just because a 14 year old looks like she is 21 when someone dolls her up with the right clothes, hair and make-up does not mean she is now 21 and can drive a car, can hold her alcohol, knows when she's had enough. She doesn't have the wearwithall to say no and mean it when someone says let's take naked pictures...I promise I won't show them to anyone. So, I hate to break it to you but you don't get to blame the victim just because "she was willing." You might as well be saying, look at how she was dressed, she was asking for it.

I agree with your last sentence, get more info.

Jodi - posted on 03/24/2013

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Being a classified sex offender does NOT make that person a child predator.

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Actually most sexual offenders subsequent re offences are not of the physical nature. The only reason that statistic is out there is because they allow the paper violations to be counted as a re-offence. This can mean forgetting to sign a paper for their moving on time or forgetting to register secondary addresses. If a person is on the registry the likelihoods of them re-offending is small BECAUSE so many people including the police are very aware of their presence. The only groups that "teach each other how to prey on small children" are those who have not been caught. When you see a "child molester" or "sex offender" its important to know who their offence was committed with. If the individuals are pre or post puberty. If the individual was pre puberty there proves more concern because that offender are sexually aroused by the lack of adult features. However if the offender committed an offence with a person that is post puberty then there is less fear because they are not going to target "children". You have to remember that not all "child pornography" are pictures of 3-9 yr olds, sometimes they are pictures of teens who are simply not "of age". Its horrible if the subjects are not willing but with extent of teens who are having sex younger and younger its more difficult to lay blame b/c those teens are making choices themselves as well. Make sure you know the whole story before you stress yourself out.

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Certain states have sex registeries and laws regarding how close an offender can legally be to a school. In Michigan is is 1000 feet. So just google it. Without knowing more details that's the best help I can give you.

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ABSOLUTELY SAY SOMETHING!! Isn't that person not even supposed to be near there?! Is he a father of a student?! Report him!!!!!

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Morgan is right - if he served his time, there's nothing legally you can do. Tracy Stuart was right too - there are a lot of child molesters and exploiters who never make the registry list.

However, research shows that a convicted child predator is 90% more likely to offend again and only 3% of the re-offenders are likely to be caught. Repeat offenders have organized groups that teach each other how to get away with crimes against children...

...so Alura, you are absolutely justified in your concern.

Can you send in a complaint? Yes, but that might not get you very far (sometimes authorities hands are tied because of that obnoxious red-tape we often "laws" or "policies" that are intended for good, but are often used to protect the guilty).

My advice? Spread the word to others at the daycare, make management aware, make whomever aware that you can... but don't ever ignore your feelings or instincts. Focus on making your child less vulnerable.

Child predators like easy targets, but an educated and vocal child is NOT an easy target. Teach your child about what is an appropriate touch (ex: hug from mommy) and what is inappropriate, what is a safe secret (ex: birthday presents) and what is not, when to tell an adult (which would be any time your child feels uncomfortable, scared, sad) etc. Teach your child that it is okay to say no when it comes to their bodies - they don't have to allow anyone to hug them, touch them, take pictures of them or anything else that makes them feel uncomfortable in that way.

My kids are taught these basics from the moment they start to talk or potty train. We don't make a big deal of it, we simply talk about it while I am helping them get dressed, change their diapers, or whatever. That way, they aren't scared about it but they know about it.

Hope that's helpful.

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yes you can complain to the council about that there are the forms at your local council and my advise if you do see the person either walk the opposite side of the road or just think nice happy thoughts or get your child transfered

Alura - posted on 03/21/2013

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Tracy Im aware there are people off the radar and that's something I cant control(and do not live in fear because I don't have control...?) but the ones who are on the radar I can take more actions of seeing that my child is safe from the perv. I don't think im living in fear im pretty sure im just looking out for my sons safety..

AmberRose - posted on 03/21/2013

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I think that a great way to look at it, " If you live in fear and suspect everyone of being secretly malicious, then so will your child." Be cautious but not fearful.

Tracy - posted on 03/21/2013

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Honestly, as a parent I am usually far less worried about the sex offenders I can find on a local registry. It's the ones who have no record that worry me. They could be anyone. Anywhere. Have any and all access to your child and you would NEVER know it. How far do we go with fear? If you knew he was a violent and aggressive attacker, that's one thing, but not knowing for what, exactly, he was charged for and your child isn't even on that campus then why are you worrying? How about that guy you stood next to at Walmart? The funny person who paid a little too much attention to your child at the bus stop? At the park, is there someone who looked in your child's direction for a long period of time? Are these registered sex offenders or the ones who fly under the radar and never get caught? Which do you think can be more dangerous? If you live in fear and suspect everyone of being secretly malicious, then so will your child.

Alura - posted on 03/20/2013

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Also, the daycare on campus gives a Very good discount and applying for financial help ( ive already tried) is a HUGE pain in the ass..

Alura - posted on 03/20/2013

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I didnt think of the situation where it might have been pictures of his girlfriend.. im just gonna have to go to the police station and ask them. when you see child pornography i dont think of a 16 year old girl. thank you everyone.

Tracy - posted on 03/20/2013

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Look him up one the sex offender registry that will tell you the level he is as to the likelihood of a repeat offense simple by the frequency of his status verifications (quarterly,biannual or annual etc.). If you look his record up online (it is a matter of public record for court filings etc) read the filings for petitions, motions and plea bargains and it should be simple to figure out enough information to form an educated guess as to the nature of his crime and whether you should be overly concerned.

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