Son in pain?

Hush - posted on 03/01/2009

My little one also did same.  She has a kidney that has a duel eneranec bit like a highway merging causing problems i have to wait for her to be a year prior to any frther tests.  Infant relief from the chemist is handy.

And  did a test with her let her slep next to me one night and she slept through. I also found if she slept two or so hours next to me before i moved her to bed she slept through.  Of course we dont do it all the time.  So i implemented a similar method to janine thomson on occassions.  It works but approx twice a week i will have a destraught bub during the night. 

Best wishes.

Jennifer - posted on 02/17/2009

Does he stop crying when you hold and comfort him? Is it separation anxiety or bad dreams?

I've been seeing a sleep clinic nure who has advised me on how to try to resettle with night waking. Very similar to what Janine said. You lay them back down with a comforting pat or rub and maybe  a 'back to sleep', then move further way and sit silently in the room or just out. Let them cry for a few minutes, increasing it by a couple of minutes each time in between relaying them down if need be.

You do have to be so strong though, and be sure in yourself it isn't a medical problem or you'll crumble. (I haven't managed to do it properly yet - I'm too exhausted).

If his cries peak, then calm down slightly as the minutes go by, it's probably going to work eventually, but if he just gets more and more distraught - it may be that he is in some kind of pain.

Best of luck, JEn

ps: my 7month old won't settle until 11pm (I give him dinner and bath at same time as you) and wakes every 1.5 hrs, so I know what it's like.

Janine - posted on 02/16/2009

ihave had the same thing with my youngest son he is just one year old now, i found that he woke up every hour to hour and a half, its like  the patterns of sleep with us except we learnt to go straight back to sleep as small children, what i did with my son was to  offer him one milk bottle of a night and when he wakes up only offer him water, but i wait 5 mins before going to him the first time, then 6-7 minutes the seccond time letting him scream. going up  minutes each time, i dont offer him attantion during the night just his drink and leave him be, this took me just over a week of lost sleep but he learnt that he was not getting what he wanted and figured it was easier to just go back to sleep. you have to be strong and  put up with the crying for a few days eventually it will stop. they dont take long to learn new habits and we just have to reteach them the good ones

Amy - posted on 02/16/2009

wow i'm sorry diana.
I guess mothers know best.
After all we are the ones that are with our children day in and out.
Doctors most of the time just want to rush us out so they can get to another patient.
I hope your daughter is ok now though.

Diana - posted on 02/16/2009

my daughter screamed every nite from 10 pm till 3 or 4 in the morning... Of course the doctor said colic... when my daughter 5 or 6, she came home from school and said she had chest pains.... she had w.p.w wolfs, parks and whites syndrome. It made the heart race and not stop.. eventually she had surgery.... now shes ok ..If your not satisfied with your doctor insist on a pediatrican..... I wish i did...

Amy - posted on 02/16/2009

well i do have a family doctor that I see on a regular basis regarding my son. He is a good doc...he does check my son out but i get the feeling that he doesn't really know whats wrong with him either Im thinking of getting a second opinion from a doctor that works in the same practice but this doc actually specializes in babies...
buttt he is away for another month.

Nmorris241 - posted on 02/16/2009

Also, bubs are doing new things and learning new things everyday, sometimes they want to do things but cant and get frustrated... this also will unsettle sleep. again i would go to a health care nurse and get some help from them. if their advise is not working, see another!

Nmorris241 - posted on 02/16/2009

i would go to a child health nurse, NOT a doctor. a child health nurse will watch how you soothe ans settle, give you tips and tricks to try. because sometimes there really isn't something wrong, its just a stage their going through!

my son is 8months and wakes 3 to 4 times a night. (every night) so i feel your pain.

just remember it doesn't last forever.

Amy - posted on 02/16/2009

hey ladies.
Everynight to get him ready for bed I feed him a jar of solids about 5:30pm, bath him about 6pm and a bottle at 7pm which usually puts him to sleep. Thats my routine for him everynight. I try to ensure that he has had plenty of food before he goes to sleep to try to ensure he doesn't wake up during the night.

As for the wind, I don't think thats what is bothering him as I haven't burped him since he was since 6 months and there has been no chance in his sleep routine before i stopped burping him or after I burped him.

It's just for the past week he has been waking up more and more. After he has woke up for the first time for his bottle...he isn't hungry when he wakes up after that he just wakes up crying and doesn't stop crying.

Thats what I find weird as usually he is content after i've given him a bottle and sleeps for a few more hours.

but thank you for your kind words.

Amy

Jennifer - posted on 02/16/2009

Hi Amy,

Just a thought. Even though he burps without you trying, he could still have wind...

In "Save Our Sleep" by Tizzie Hall

www.saveoursleep.com.au

she talks about babies stomachs getting filled with wind bit by bit with each feed. Then they have no room for more milk "picking at his bottles" you say, and are very uncomfortable and scream in pain, even if they burp.

My son does this, (as did my daughter) and I am dealing with the constant waking, but find her suggestion of stopping feeds to burp him every 3 minutes (or 30ml if you're bottle feeding). It's worth trying it, even if he protests. As soon as he burps, reward him by giving him more milk straight away.

Also some foods cause if he's on solids, beware of dairy, and gas causing foods like beans and brocolli.

As for reflux, keep his cot head end raised in case its persisting.

Also, keep the room dark, don't talk to him at all, or look him in the eyes etc with the night feeds so as not to stimulate him more awake.

And a comforter toy or blanket is a good idea too.

Best wishes for finding a solution soon. (and hope I do too).

-Jen

Liana - posted on 02/16/2009

It could be growing pains but if your baby isn't eating properly either you need to take him back to the Dr and demand they investigate.  Drs fob off 1st time mums and treat you as neaurotic but the truth is you know your baby best and you have to be firm with them.  It sounds like to me like your baby is having some kind of cramps so it will need looking at to find out why.  In the mean time I agree with bernie a warm bath and hot water bottles.  If desperate infant ibrobrofen will help if it is cramping but read the instructions carefully and try not to use unless absolutely desperate.  Good luck I hope things get better for you and your baby.

Amy - posted on 02/16/2009

hey Bernie,

My son is 8months old and you maybe right regarding the growing pains as im sure i have heard before that babies go through alot of changes around 8months but like you said it's just hard to figure out what the problem as he can't communicate to me yet.

thank you for your kind words though.
You have made me feel somewhat better knowing that Im not the only one out there that is going through this.


Amy

Bernie - posted on 02/16/2009

Hi Amy, my daughter has been doing the very same thing for years I do not know what age you son is but me daughter is 8 now I ahve brought her to the doctor numerous times but he could never find anything wrong with her but once she starting talking more she told me she was having pains in her knees and some other joints the doctor put it down to growing pains and I've since been speakingto other mums who children had the same thing. The only thing that works with my daughter is heat either a warm bath or a hot water bottle. There are also some creas you can get for muscle and joint aches which seen to ease it too.

This might not be the case with your son but it could be an option, I know exactly how you feel because I went through many sleepless nights and it's so frustrating when you don't know what the problem is and you can't help your child but maybe just try this and if it doesn't help well at least you can eliminate it.

I wouldn't be too worried at the moment about the bottles as kids go through fases like that I also have another daughter who wouldn't drink a bottle during the day from the time she was 9 months where as the other girl drank them until she was nearly 2.

I hope this does help you in some way and you will finally get a good nights sleep

Bernie