Speech problems with my 4 year old

Heather - posted on 01/14/2009 ( 17 moms have responded )

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My 4 year old son is very bright but we noticed he wasn't saying all letters when he spoke. We took him in for a speech test through the local school district (free if you are wondering) and they said that he wasn't saying his g's and k's, which a 4 year old should, and he speaks in the front of his mouth, causing excesive saliva and putting his tounge between his teeth for s's. He has to go through another test to qualify for the program. I was curious if anyone else dealt with this. I would really like to get started on fixing it before kindergarden.

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Karla - posted on 04/30/2009

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Definitely get him checked. There is help out there for him right now. He should be seen by a speech therapist through the clinic. They can work with him to help him get those letters and with the speaking part. If he is still having problems with it when he starts school make sure he is getting the help he needs there also. The school can provide a speech pathologist at school also. He may need an IEP which is just an individualized education program that would be set up to meet his needs. I know about this because I have a masters in education with an emphasis on special education. But for now check with your medical doctor.

Sabina - posted on 01/14/2009

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My son is turning 3 next week and I have notices same stuff with his speech. He just started talking (other than just lables for things) about 4 months ago so at first I thought it was his baby talk. Now, I am starting to realize he cannot say certain sounds at all (he cannot say his own name, Connor. It comes out as Dede). He ended up with ear tubes last year and his hearing is fine (he's been tested twice). I have been doing some research and think he may have Childhood Apraxia of Speech... He does OK with single words but has to work hard to put them together in a sentance. He also drools a lot (still). We are seeing ENT and his pediatrician in next couple of weeks and I am planing to get a referral to a speech-language pathologist. I think I will do private evaluation first and then try the public school if there is a problem. I had called early intervention for him last January as he was turning two and only had 10 word vocabulary but they found him to be within normal range. Anyway, I will post an update should I get any answers. Good luck! :-)

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Heather - posted on 04/30/2009

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My son has been in a phonics group for an hour a day for 4 days, 4 weeks on and 4 weeks off. He has been through one full session and 1/2 way through his second. He loves it! I think he is progressing too. One excersize they told us to try is pick a word that the don't say right, hold it up and say is this a "..." and use the pronunceation they use and you can tell if they know how the letters should sound. For example my son doesn't day k. He replaces k with T. So I held up my keys and said are these "Teys"? And he said no. I asked if they are "keys" and he said yes. Hearing the letter correctly is half the battle. Hope this helps everyone!

Lisandra - posted on 01/15/2009

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I have a son, who just turned three this month. and i have noticed same kind of problems as you have noticed in your son. I called a speech therapist to come over to the house and do an evaluation, and she said he was talking in sentences but has trouble with some pronunciations like the s's.
i have tried working with him, and it has improved. She said he will be needing a speech therapy for at least three times a week. she was charging me $75 per sessions. i have not been able to start him on the therapy as of yet. i feel like he has improved so much, and maybe all it takes is for him to start attending to daycare a couple of times a week and socialize with other kids same age.
Family members say he just needs to work on it a little bit more, so i am not sure.. i feel same way you do! i want to get problem solve, before he starts school.
don't know what else i could say,hope i can help any way!

Diane - posted on 01/15/2009

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Quoting Heather:

Speech problems with my 4 year old

My 4 year old son is very bright but we noticed he wasn't saying all letters when he spoke. We took him in for a speech test through the local school district (free if you are wondering) and they said that he wasn't saying his g's and k's, which a 4 year old should, and he speaks in the front of his mouth, causing excesive saliva and putting his tounge between his teeth for s's. He has to go through another test to qualify for the program. I was curious if anyone else dealt with this. I would really like to get started on fixing it before kindergarden.



When my daughter was 4 I also had her tested at the local learning center, she wasn't talking well for a 4 yr. old, they suggested that I take her to a Ear, Nose and Throat Dr. I am glad I did because she had had many ear infections, they put tubes in and then she was fine. Before that she was 1 and 1/2 yrs behind. She is now a 7th grader with all A's and B's.

Heather - posted on 01/15/2009

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Thanks everyone!  This is very helpful.  He has not been tested for hearing so definitly something I will pursue.  I was told by the original speech therapist that the problems he is having a lot of times comes from being on the bottle or Nuk too long.  He used both but neither very long and the Nuk never during the day.  It seems to be specifically speech because his sentence formation and knowledge is past kindergarden level.  Sometimes I wonder if his little mind is working so fast that his mouth can't catch up. We will see what comes from the next test.  I have heard GREAT things about our school district.  And it comes highly recommended from our doctor's office.  But that only goes as far as ifhe gets excepted.



 



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Heather - posted on 01/15/2009

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Thanks everyone!  This is very helpful.  He has not been tested for hearing so definitly something I will pursue.  I was told by the original speech therapist that the problems he is having a lot of times comes from being on the bottle or Nuk too long.  He used both but neither very long and the Nuk never during the day.  It seems to be specifically speech because his sentence formation and knowledge is past kindergarden level.  Sometimes I wonder if his little mind is working so fast that his mouth can't catch up. We will see what comes from the next test.  I have heard GREAT things about our school district.  And it comes highly recommended from our doctor's office.  But that only goes as far as ifhe gets excepted.



 



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Melinda - posted on 01/14/2009

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My daughter is 7 1/2, and has been in Speech Therapy since 3 1/2. At first I was very upset about her having a delay or disability, and I was so disappointed that she is in Special Ed. But it has really helped her go from not communicating at all to being able to hold conversations and express herself...I am very happy she was able to - and continues to - get the help she needs. ^_^
Not being able to communicate with her for so long was very very difficult though! We were all so frustrated!
Good luck girl! ^_^

Melinda - posted on 01/14/2009

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Both my daughter and son qualifiied and needed speech therapy. My daughter responded great. The therapist was awesome... My son was put with and aide, who to her own admittence wasn't very qualified. However, he did manage to graduate from speech therapy by the start of second grade. I would just recommend being patient. At least your in tune enough to get him tested. Way to Go!

Dana - posted on 01/14/2009

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Every state has different guidelines that individual school districts must follow to determine eligibility for speech therapy services.  I am a Speech-Language Pathologist and I have worked with preschool aged children with articulation disorders or phonological disorders and have really seen a lot of improvement through therapy.  I agree with Rita that the earlier you start therapy, the better.  Just remember that if the school district thinks that he should not be seen right away and you still have lingering concerns, you may want to consider contacting a SLP in private practice!  Totally worth it:)

Silvana - posted on 01/14/2009

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did you check if he has a tongue tie...just an idea my 7mth old needed it snipped as they said it may cause speech problems later...just an idea...they noticed because she wasnt latching on...

Charlene - posted on 01/14/2009

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My son had the same problem also.  After having him tested at a University Medical Center, he started speech therapy there at age 4.   It was also suggested that we put him in pre K.  We were told hearing the other students talk might him help also.  When in public kindergarten he was able to stay in speech.  He didn't need speech anymore by the third grade.



 I work at a public school now in K.  Children that have had speech in 4K automatically continue it in 5K.  Some that need it badly, but haven't had it at 4 years, usually have to wait until they are in first grade.  That is based on how many therapists the county can afford for each school.  My suggestion is to start them in speech as early as possible after they have been tested. 

Susan - posted on 01/14/2009

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I have a son which just turned 6 in December, he didn't start talking til around 3. His way of communicating was to point at things he wanted. I took him to many specialist from a pyschologist for testing, as well as, a private speech therapy center which came highly recommended, the local school system failed my son with the first attempts to get him in to (public) preschool for children with needs, they kept telling me he was fine but after raising a child with no learning disablities I knew they were wrong. His hearing came back normal but his sensory and social skills are not. Anyway, you are your childs best advocate, push, pursue everything necessary; schools do fail our children everyday, with evidence from the private sector things get done quickly, you have something to push back with and get em' the best help possible.

Amy - posted on 01/14/2009

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Hi Heather! My son will be 4 in April and he has the same problem. He was tested back in 2007 for his hearing and his speech and the hearing was fine, but he did do speech therapy for a while. At that age I did not feel that the speech was helping him much, but I do feel he may need it once he starts school. Is that his only problem is a lispe? My son had a hard with his entire speech but now it is only a lispe. I wish you all the luck! If you have any other questions you can email me at amy_laforce@yahoo.com

Victoria - posted on 01/14/2009

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Glad you posted this...my son too. I hear him speak words, but doesn't get them all out correctly...I have heard of those speech therapy classes given from schools... my neighbor friend has her son in one now, but told me they didn't test him till first grade!? and now she has him in a private speech therapy given from the hospital. I was thinking they should test him now and get him in a group now, preschool age (4).
My dentist has also told me that he has an under bite. (bottom teeth are further out than his top teeth), and that is why he lisps his letters... and that can't be corrected till his adult teeth have come in...and then maybe braces to fix it.
Well good luck and hope some more posts come in with suggestions...Victoria

Ritu - posted on 01/14/2009

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Quoting Heather:

Speech problems with my 4 year old

My 4 year old son is very bright but we noticed he wasn't saying all letters when he spoke. We took him in for a speech test through the local school district (free if you are wondering) and they said that he wasn't saying his g's and k's, which a 4 year old should, and he speaks in the front of his mouth, causing excesive saliva and putting his tounge between his teeth for s's. He has to go through another test to qualify for the program. I was curious if anyone else dealt with this. I would really like to get started on fixing it before kindergarden.



Hi! The first suggestion sounds good. Getting the hearing tested is the first step. Second is getting him screened bu a speech therapiist. Since he is 4 now, your school dist should provide screening and if needed futher services. Just to let you know kids don't develop all the sounds at the same time. Sounds like (p,b,m,n,k,g,t,d,h) he should have by 4-41/2 but the other sounds develop gradually. He should also be beginning to say 's' in sblends(spoon.snake,step etc). And yes, I am a speech therapist working with preschoolers ina public school...u can trust me.



All the best. Do not wait. Earlier the Better.

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Sounds like he will need some speech therapy and perhaps have his hearing tested, which I assume you would have already done. I had similar problems with my daughter when she was in preschool only to find out that she had a hearing problem, she is now 13 years old and has her second set of grommets inserted, she still has some difficulties but is much better. Hope I have helped you.

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