Stop "Potty Mouth Doll"

Krista - posted on 06/11/2012

Anyhoodle. I think we might as well wrap it up. The OP has conveyed the information that she wished to convey, and everything else is just people kicking each other in the shins.

Thanks, ladies.

Krista E.
WTCOM Moderator

Shawnn - posted on 06/11/2012

Pretty much my thoughts as well, Jodi.

Jodi - posted on 06/11/2012

Exactly. Telling others that they are lacking in morals and values because they don't agree with signing the petition is asking for trouble.

Johnny - posted on 06/11/2012

Perhaps understandably people get a bit overly defensive when told that if you don't share someone's opinion then you aren't a real mother. Tends to set things down the wrong path.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 06/11/2012

Liz, if you watch the video, her kids DO have them, and her son also heard the "crazy bitch" part of it. She DID or still DOES have the dolls. That is how she discovered the supposed obsenity.

Liz - posted on 06/11/2012

Right, and that definitely makes sense. Others just keep going on about how she is blaming her daughter's swearing on somebody else. I was just pointing out that she never even said anything of the sort.

Rose - posted on 06/11/2012

My daughter does not swear! She has never said those words, and I would like to keep it that way. I simply came her as a suggestion from one of my close friends to make other moms aware of what myself and several hundred other people believe is a doll that uses profanity. I choose not to reply back to these threads because it is senseless to. In not trying to change anyone's minds about the doll one way or the other. I am simply informing, if a mother takes offense as I did they are more than welcome to sign the petition. If they are not then of course they can disregard. If any of my comments have offended anyone I truly apologize, that is definitely not my intentions. Thanks again for everyone's responses.

Jodi - posted on 06/11/2012

Actually, I wasn't even insinuating that HER daughter WAS swearing. I was referring to *general you* if your child hears the doll swearing then they must be being exposed to it somewhere, otherwise they would just hear baby babble. *shrug*

Liz - posted on 06/11/2012

She never said her daughter even heard the doll, or even possessed one. She never said anything about her daughter swearing, either.

Johnny - posted on 06/11/2012

She appears to be blaming a doll and Toys R' Us for her daughter's swearing. It is entirely possible that she herself has never allowed a swear word to escape her lips. But I am just going to guess that her daughter has been exposed to other people, and has occasionally left her mother's sight. So just perhaps she did learn it from someone such as another relative or a neighbor.

Liz - posted on 06/11/2012

Saying that her daughter learned profanity from home when she already stated that she does not swear, is calling her a liar. She also isn't blaming anyone for anything.

Dove - posted on 06/11/2012

*We are a Christian family trying to raise our children with morals and values. It appears that the majority of the moms posting on this link lack those things.

*Because cutting someone down is so helpful...it's definitely going to get more people to see things your way.

EXACTLY! ;)

Shawnn - posted on 06/11/2012

Who called anyone a liar, Liz? I'm still having trouble with that. I never referred to anyone, and in my most recent post just paraphrased another post, substituting names for the generic word, in hopes of getting you to see that we're not picking on anyone.

If I may point out that someone else on this thread said that the rest of us lack morals and values simply because we do not agree with her stance. I am not namecalling. I am, however, exercising my free speech. I find it ridiculous to continue to blame corporations for things that fall under the realm of PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY.

Liz - posted on 06/11/2012

Or, maybe she was telling the truth and her daughter DIDN'T learn it at home. (gasp!) Calling her a liar seems pretty judgmental and rude to me. And by the way, she never said her daughter learned that phrase anywhere. She simply does not think that a toy that supposedly utters profanity should be available to children, and she is just making people who may not be aware, aware.

Shawnn - posted on 06/11/2012

Gee, Liz, who was being cut down? Who was cutting? We're just calling the situation as we see it.

As I see it, Someone got upset because their kids learned (from somewhere) the phrase "you crazy bitch". So, rather than look around themselves, and recognize that profanity is used more often than not in normal, everyday speech, AND recognize that perhaps, just PERHAPS their kid could have learned it (gasp) at home...this Someone looks for any other way that her precious baby could have been exposed to such profanity. And, failing to "find" that source close to herself, she looks to the toys most recently brought into her little precious' life...bingo, the "guilty" baby dolls!

So, this Someone then finds a site where moms hang out, vent, bitch, gripe, support each other. Hoping to find someone else to support her, she jumps on her bandwagon. When opposed, rather than stating clear facts to support her case, gets defensive and quits responding.

Hmmm. Sounds like Mrs. Princess hit the nail on the head.

♥♪Megan♫♥ - posted on 06/11/2012

Actually I want a doll that sounds like it says 'You crazy bitch!' I'm always at a loss as to what to get my FIL for his birthday, Christams (I bought him a book last year and he's kinda illiterate) and Father's Day and a cursing baby doll (or even one that sounds like it's cursing after a few martinis) would be a great gift because he's that kind of person.

Seriously though, I don't really want my kids swearing. However when my older daughter does swear I at least know where she could have got it from (me, my husband, her friend's dad or granddad) and I'll take responsibility for not having a better censor on my own mouth for swearing around my kids. I won't blame it on a toy. I also know enough to tell her that those words are grown up words and not even all grown ups like hearing those words from people.

Liz - posted on 06/11/2012

Because cutting someone down is so helpful...it's definitely going to get more people to see things your way.

Mrsprincess069 - posted on 06/11/2012

Rose's 2 year old daughter is using profanity, so rather than take responsibility for her daughter as parents should, she is blaming a doll that says only babble. She said her daughter doesn't hear this at home, but she had to hear it from somewhere, so she is blaming the doll, rather than herself. her husband, or who ever the child's care takers are. She could have heard this from home or daycare, but don't blame everyone or everything else take responsibility for what you have taught your daughter, which is profanity, then break her of using these words instead of shifting the blame. This is what is wrong now a days, parents that want someone or something to blame rather than take responsibility. I am 48 years old, and can guarantee children will mock us and their friends, quicker and more than anyone else, because this is how and where they learn, whether it is good or bad. I have enough kids and grand kids to say that even the older kids can teach them things we don't want them saying or doing, but in the end as parents we have to take responsibility for everything they learn. It is our responsibility as parents to teach them, and put the tools and people in their life to teach them, and take responsibility for it, rather than try to use the blame game. This only teaches your child to blame someone else for all their mistakes...

♥♪Megan♫♥ - posted on 06/11/2012

I'm not too worried then. I've been morally bankrupt with a God complex for years now. It's about time the rest of the world caught up

Krista - posted on 06/11/2012

Yeah, I listened to the video several times and did not interpret that babble as being profanity. Were I you, I would be very cautious. Your petition and words could very easily be seen as libel.

Shawnn - posted on 06/11/2012

Because, Johnny, rather than jump on her moral bandwagon by signing her petition, we'd rather take personal responsibility.

I guess that means that we're morally bankrupt. Although I don't see how accepting responsibility for what we choose to (or not) purchase makes Rose think of us that way...

Johnny - posted on 06/11/2012

I don't really understand how people saying that they would NOT buy this doll for their kids indicates that they lack morals???

♥♪Megan♫♥ - posted on 06/11/2012

My older daughter was calling her cat her pussy for the longest time. She would even ask where her pussy was when she couldn't find him. *head desk*

~♥Little Miss - posted on 06/11/2012

I would LOVE to know what you did with the dolls that your kids have. Did you throw them out? Return them? Just take away the doll that you think says "crazy bitch"?

Shawnn - posted on 06/11/2012

Whoa, Rose, back up. Who are you to say that, based on the responses posted (most of whom advocated personal parental responsibility) that we as a group have no morals and values?

That is extremely off base, and uncalled for. I, for one, take offense at such a pointed remark.

You are on an international site for mothers. Nowhere does it state that we must have specific beliefs prior to joining or commenting on anything.

Now, I'm going to add this, although it's really none of your business. My faith, my morals and values, and my general sense of right are just fine, thank you very much. I am, however, tired of parents who assume that everyone must protect them, that all companies and corporations have an obligation to not sell anything that ONE person may deem offensive, or that ONE careless parent uses and causes death.

I am tired of the "moral compass" of this generation relying on corporations to tell them what to eat, drink, think, and believe.

I feel, Rose, that I am mature enough (at 42 years of age) and intelligent enough to make my own decisions on products, based on my own information gathering. If I don't like something, I don't buy it.

If you don't like the response that you got due to it's negativity...(and, really it wasn't negative, it was simply asking why we have to rely on the company to make a decision, when we all have the wonderful ability to make our own choices), well, maybe you should have stated the following at the beginning of your post: If YOU DON"T AGREE WITH ME, PLEASE DON"T BOTHER TO RESPOND, AS I'M ONLY LOOKING FOR RESPONSES THAT SUPPORT WHAT I'M SAYING.

I believe that Jesus was quoted as saying "he who is without sin may cast the first stone". May I suggest that you look in the mirror before judging others?

My best to you.

Stifler's - posted on 06/11/2012

I love their made up words cats to logan are "me yow yows" and cheerios are "cheeri yo yos".

~♥Little Miss - posted on 06/11/2012

LOL Stifler, my daughter says "pussy" all the time. My cats name is Pixie, so she always calls "Pussy, where pussy at" "see pussy" "pussy tail" and to top it off, when she sees other cats she says "pussy" out in public also. Oh the fun of explaining to strangers that my cats name is Pixie, and all cats are Pixie to my 2 year old.

Stifler's - posted on 06/11/2012

Hahaha. My son sounds like he says bitch all the time. He means weet bix. I watched the youtube video and it sounds like babbling to me. Isn't this all a bit slanderous when there's no actual proof that the dolls says "crazy bitch"?

Mabel - posted on 06/11/2012

I would buy them but my son doesn't play with dolls, I don't understand the reasoning behind getting so upset about a doll saying crazy bitch.Sorry but to me there seems way better things to worry about...plus just the other day my 3 yr old got mad because his daddy had piled some stuff into his carseat and when little man saw it he looked at me and said Daddies a Bitch! Of course I told him that the comment was rude and he shouldn't say that .The thing I am getting at is this, it's just words and the only power they have is what you give to them. So if you want to try to ban a freaking doll then go for it.Waste your time and I will set back and watch the show.

♥♪Megan♫♥ - posted on 06/10/2012

Is this like that doll in Target a few years back that supposedly said 'Praise Allah'? Because all I'm hearing is something that sounds vaguely like the grown ups from the Peanuts cartoons. Ah well, maybe it's one of those new fangled ink blot test hearing dolls.

My kids are already morally screwed from having an Atheist for a dad and being friends with a kid whose dad tells him to move his ass. Oh yeah and having my FIL as their grand dad. He's a great guy, but he doesn't have a censor button on him. At least not yet, but I hear Canada's top researchers are working on it now.

Little Miss has the right idea. If you don't like the words that you believe you hear coming out of the doll, then don't buy it.

Jodi - posted on 06/10/2012

Why not? Like you, everyone is entitled to their opinion. In your opinion most people shouldn't have commented. In my opinion, they are well within their rights :D After all, your comment had nothing to add either when you think about it. At least other comments were on topic even if they didn't meet your criteria of worthy.

Liz - posted on 06/10/2012

Wow. If you don't feel the need to sign the petition, or think that this is a worthy cause in any way, then why comment at all?

Patricia - posted on 06/10/2012

i will

Patricia - posted on 06/10/2012

i will

Pamela - posted on 06/10/2012

Done. I did find it necessary to search under Toys R Us in order to find the petition at change.org.

Mrsprincess069 - posted on 06/09/2012

I listened like 25 times, and only heard babble. I guess you hear what you want if you decide it's something you want to hear. I am a mother of 13 and grandmother to 9. and found nothing at all wrong with this doll. I am also a christian with high morals and values, but still I couldn't hear any profanity from the doll. We have these dolls for our grand daughter, and she never uses profanity or even tries, but she loves to play with her baby dolls, and I am not going to take her baby doll away just because someone is on some witch hunt after a toy store or doll. I would never sign or ask any of my friends to sign your petition, for several reasons. First because I don't hear profanity I hear baby babble, second because you come across as a very mean vindictive person, and third because you insult people and judge them even on a site for mothers. You try to convince people with your holier than thou approach, and then degrade them and say they are not mothers, when they don't agree with you. Well people the doll does not use profanity, it is just baby babble, and make your own decisions on what dolls to buy for your little babies. You are the parent, you make the choice. At least listen for yourself, before you let someone discredit this doll, because we did...

Jinnie - posted on 06/09/2012

Good points Jodi on both posts! Rose, all due respect, but just because a mother isn't taking issue with this doll doesn't mean we don't have morals & values. Each of us are different, doesn't mean we're bad people. And like Jodi said, she must have heard it somewhere..

~♥Little Miss - posted on 06/09/2012

Listen Rose, I get why you are doing this. I fully understand. I also like to stand up for what I believe. But I do not think calling people immoral, or slinging insults at others that disagree is going to get your point across about not using profanity, but passing judgement on others is fine. That does not sound very Christian to me.



I really do wish you the best of luck and peace with all of this. But really, if you don't want the dolls, return them. Don't buy them again. Tell your friends. Keep your petition going. Whatever. But don't come across as holier than thou, then insult people for having a different view about how THEY would handle it.

Dove - posted on 06/09/2012

Um... I don't use foul language. The first time my children heard the 'F' word is from the kid across the street who was half their age and was cussing them out and threatening to beat them up. He sure didn't get his foul mouth and bad attitude from some silly doll. My kids hear foul language on a daily basis thanks to some of our lovely neighbors, but guess what? They still feel that stupid and shut up are two of the worst things you can say. Yes, the older ones KNOW a bunch of the worse cuss words, but we don't use them and I highly doubt some silly doll would change anything since they hear worse from the neighbors ALL the time.

My responses have absolutely nothing to do with a lack of morals and values (since I am also a Christian... disclaimer: you can have morals and values withOUT being a Christian too), but more to do with the fact that I think it is ridiculous to go around trying to ban things that don't REALLY harm anyone. If you think this is a worthy cause to support, then by all means, spread information, but to think that people who don't support a ban are immoral or lacking in values is... quite frankly... ludicrous and insulting.

Now... if the doll shows some porn or hands out drugs... I'd be more than willing to support a ban, but for some 'perceived' foul language? Not a chance.

On a side note... I've SEEN the 'sex' in Lion King. lol

Rose - posted on 06/09/2012

Thanks again! Goodbye!

Jodi - posted on 06/09/2012

Ah, here we go, if you don't sign the petition and take issue with the doll, you can't have Christian morals and values. Lady, don't put yourself on a moral pedestal. The only difference between you and me is that I would just choose not to purchase the dolls, and you decided it was national TV newsworthy and had to start a petition and make it your life's work.

If your 2 year old doesn't hear that sort of language, then she wouldn't be interpreting it that way then, would she?

Rose - posted on 06/09/2012

My daughter is two years old and no she does not hear that sort of language. We are a Christian family trying to raise our children with morals and values. It appears that the majority of the moms posting on this link lack those things.

Jodi - posted on 06/09/2012

Personally, I think if that's what your CHILD is hearing when they use the doll, then the child is already hearing those words elsewhere and has a potty mouth anyway. Otherwise, all a child will hear is baby babble, so it is hardly messing up the kid.

Jinnie - posted on 06/09/2012

X rated? It isn't porn honey, at most it's R, maybe even just PG-13. In any case, do you really think that you would hear the doll say those words if you didn't know what to listen for? I had to listen to it 3 times to believe "yeah it kinda does sound like profanity". It definitely is not clearly pronounced though, and I also doubt TRU would deliberately sell a toy like that. While they are pricey, I definitely don't believe they're immoral. I think this is more a story about sensationalizing something that is in all actuality, nothing, just to be angry. Americans are always soooo happy to be angry about something. That's what this boils down to. This is nothing more than someone wanting to find something bad about innocent things, like the claim years ago that the dust stirred up when Simba plopped down spelled "sex"... Again, people just looking for something to be outraged about. Guess they have nothing better to do with their time.

Jodi - posted on 06/09/2012

I'm laughing at the mother who seems to think those who don't care to sign the petition because they can't see the reason for it, will have messed up kids. Seriously, just don't buy it if you don't like it. It's really quite simple. If people don't buy it, it will come off the shelves.

Rose - posted on 06/09/2012

This appears to be a circle of mess and not Moms!

Jodi - posted on 06/09/2012

LOL.

Rose - posted on 06/09/2012

I choose not to address any negative comments. Thanks for your response!

Dove - posted on 06/09/2012

I think she's missing the point intentionally considering the only response is 'thanks for your response'... Oh well. Not my problem. ;)

~♥Little Miss - posted on 06/09/2012

Apparently you are missing the point.