Swine flu

Ashley - posted on 10/07/2009 ( 40 moms have responded )

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i have never had a flu shot in my life, as well as i have never had the flu (knock on wood) but my doc is stressing the fact to me, as well as many other people, about the importance of getting the seasonal flu vaccine and the swine flu vaccine...i am really thinking about getting them, just for the pure fact that it will protect my son after he is born..(he is due in 6 weeks). but i have not been very convinced that i should get the swine flu vaccine since there has not been much study on it with expecting moms...im just really confused...i would hate to get this nasty bug while pregnant and be more likely to have severe complication but i also would hate to have my son get sick after he is born! can i please get some advice on what i should do, or comments about what you are doing and why?

Thanks

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Yvonne - posted on 10/14/2009

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Please don't do it. The flu vaccine has mercury in it. A good source of info is tacanow.org It is a website that deals with autism, and there is a ton of information on the studies that have been done linking vaccines/mercury to autism. My 11-year old was diagnosed with autism at age 2 and we were blessed to have a DAN doctor, Dr. Jerry Kartzinel, who ran a multitude of tests. He discovered that our son had mercury, arsenic and lead in his blood stream. When we chelated (a process that got rid of the toxic metals) him, he made huge gains and is considered recovered. I did not vaccinate my second child. We are not anti-vaccine, but you just don't know if you have the genetic susceptibility until it is too late. It is better to slow down the current vaccination schedule. It should not be "one size fits all." As for the flu, there are just so many strains out there. How do you know you are vaccinating against the one that is headed your way? Good luck. The fact that you are asking these questions shows that you will be a thoughtful mommy.

Jenifer - posted on 10/12/2009

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The H1N1 virus circulating at the moment has no relation to the "swine flu" of the 1970's. But you're right that "H1N1" flus aren't new - the seasonal flu shot usually contains a dead version of an H1N1-type virus, but the current pandemic is a completely new type of H1N1 - that's why people are so susceptible. The only people in the population who have any immunity are a small percentage of the elderly. The shot is not a live virus, so it doesn't spread. The nasal mist is a live virus, but the chance of it spreading is slim - it could spread to those with weakened immune systems, and that's why they only recommend the spray for part of the population.

Felisa - posted on 10/12/2009

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Quoting Edeanna:

Hygiene is the single most effective method of prevention for any infectious disease and is absolutely the best method of preventing infection of the H1N1 flu virus or seasonal flu. And, if you don't normally get sick with the flu, it may not be important for you to get vaccinated. However, if you fall into a high risk group, and I cannot stress enough how at risk pregnant women are IF they get infected with H1N1, then the vaccine is the MOST effective method of prevention, in concert with excellent hygiene practices. I never get vaccinated for flu, but for my kids' sake, I will get the H1N1 vaccine. I've been studying this topic and writing on it since May (www.neahin.org/h1n1) and am only newly convinced that I will get my family vaccinated. It's not an easy decision for me, but it's the right thing to do for my kids. Get informed and consider all of your options, consult your doctor, and listen to his/her advice. The government is concerned about the fact that this is a PANDEMIC. Worldwide the number of people who have died ffrom this disease are not as high as seasonal flu, HOWEVER, of those who have died, infant and child death is significantly higher than for any other flu virus in history. Make sure you understand teh information out there and make a sound decision.


Have you not read the actual manufacturers' package inserts?  First of all, the H1N1 is NOT new.  It has been around, at least, since the 70's.  Secondly, the nasal mist flu vaccine is a live virus, which does give you the flu and also SPREADS the flu.  Please do more research.  You have been deceived.  Best wishes.

Colette - posted on 10/11/2009

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My husband got the flu shot in June and ended up with Guillain-Barré syndrome; the neurologist believes the flu shot caused his illness.

Marie-Chantal - posted on 10/10/2009

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None of our family members have had flu shot (husband, me and 2 kids). Our daughter got the flu last year and the health unit didn't call us until 3 weeks after the test requesting us to keep her away from little school friends for 10 days... We told them it was a little late, but luckily we had long week-ends, part-time school (kindergarten) and sick days etc... which kept her exactly 10 days away from school friends! The symptoms were any worst then a bad cold... just a little more fever but it was controlable! If it was so dangerous, I believe the Health Unit would call us with the results of the test a little quicker then 3 weeks later... There is so many things we can do to keep ourselves save from sickness that do not require Flu Shot such as the use of multivitamins or supplement recognize to support your immune system and have a lot of Antioxidant such as Vitamin A-C-E... You can find those in many good fruits and vegetables, but adding a good multivitamins with these antioxidants is also a great idea!!!

Jamillah - posted on 10/10/2009

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First of all i believe it is a choice that only you can make. my opinion has been to not take these vaccines. i once took the flu vac in college (as a college allstar athlete) and got really sick with the "Flu"!!! so since then and that was in the mid 90's, i refuse to to take any more. I have also traveled the world playing professional sports and had a chance to see what other cultures do about the flu vaccines and in my arena the health professionals have pushed for people to take them. I have a daughter with sickle cell anemia and also chose not to allow her to take any flu vaccines... she took it at birth because the Dr.'s streesed it with her condition...of course she got the flu! so since then my family have been drug free and it will most likely stay that way because i just don't trust the health care system...they are in the business of making money not getting people well. as for you... like i said before, it is your choice, but if i were you i would also make sure your (and the babies) immune system is strong with a healthy diet full of colorful plates of food and away with processed and trans fatty foods. i wish you and your family the best with any and all of your decisions.



sincerely

jamillah

Karla - posted on 10/10/2009

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Before you get or not the swine vaccine, research what ingredients are in this vaccine and if you are willing to put that in your babies way. I have chose no vaccines for my family but I can't make you do anything, the best thing is getting informed. Doctors will push vaccines b/c of $$, I once ask the doctor that was going to perform a cirmcumsion on my child, if his sons are circumsized, he said no...there was no reason to do it. He had 3 boys himself, but he was in charge of doing the procedure. Do some research.

Steve Vinessa - posted on 10/10/2009

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Quoting Heather:

I know I will not be getting the vaccine. I got the flu shot once a long time ago and that was the only year I was sick. I haven't gotten one since. I tend to be very healthy (knock on wood) ;o). I'm not sure yet about my kids. One thing is that they're around grandma a lot and I don't want them giving it to her. But, she's getting the shot so she should be ok, right? Someone posted that there's mercury in the shot. I'll have to check that out. If it's true then I will not let me kids get it. I don't like vaccinations much. I know some have done a lot of good. But I tend to lean on the natural side of things. I don't mind the kids getting sick, I think it's part of being a human being and I think that fearing they will die is over the top. Someone else posted that the vaccine isn't the live virus. According to the Today show that is not true. They showed someone getting the mist and said it's a weakend version of the virus. It's not antibodies. Your body makes the antibodies when introduced to the vaccine. As far as wether it can make you sick I don't know. Good luck with your decision.


I agree with Heather! It seems I hear of more and more people that stop getting the flu shot because they get the flu anyway!!

Steve Vinessa - posted on 10/10/2009

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Quoting Edeanna:

Hygiene is the single most effective method of prevention for any infectious disease and is absolutely the best method of preventing infection of the H1N1 flu virus or seasonal flu. And, if you don't normally get sick with the flu, it may not be important for you to get vaccinated. However, if you fall into a high risk group, and I cannot stress enough how at risk pregnant women are IF they get infected with H1N1, then the vaccine is the MOST effective method of prevention, in concert with excellent hygiene practices. I never get vaccinated for flu, but for my kids' sake, I will get the H1N1 vaccine. I've been studying this topic and writing on it since May (www.neahin.org/h1n1) and am only newly convinced that I will get my family vaccinated. It's not an easy decision for me, but it's the right thing to do for my kids. Get informed and consider all of your options, consult your doctor, and listen to his/her advice. The government is concerned about the fact that this is a PANDEMIC. Worldwide the number of people who have died ffrom this disease are not as high as seasonal flu, HOWEVER, of those who have died, infant and child death is significantly higher than for any other flu virus in history. Make sure you understand teh information out there and make a sound decision.


How is hygiene the most effective method of prevention when both types of flu are an airborne virus??

Marie - posted on 10/10/2009

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Please do a lot of research before you get the shot. Your baby will have a better immune system without the shot. You can help your baby by building up your own immune system.

You could read Healing the New Childhood Epidemics Autism, ADHD, Asthma, and Allergies by Kenneth Bock, M.D. or Healing and Preventing Autism by Jenny McCarthy and Jerry Kartzinel, M.D.

My granddaughter has severe autism and I would not want anyone to have to go through what she endures or the expense of autism. . Her DAN Defeat Autism Now doctor made her mother promise not to get any immunizations ever again. You can learn more at Generation Rescue or any DAN Doctor.

Ryann - posted on 10/10/2009

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Um....when dealing with docs always ask WHERE they got their information and WHEN. Often it is from drug company pamphlets (which are biased) or out dated. Not all the time, but often. Just be careful taking their word for anything. I am personally NOT getting either for myself or my daughter (3yo) and did not get the flu vacc while pregnant. I am highly suspicious of the new vaccine because it was not tested particularly well (even for a vaccine), and was made in a great big hurry. I have a friend who is pregnant and her doctor recommended she NOT get it for just those reasons. Upon returning home and doing her own little research on it, she agreed. I also agree with those who suggest H1N1 has been hyped up bigger than it is....although if it really is anything like the influenza epidemic a hundred and some odd years ago it will be fairly mild this season and nasty NEXT season. And those of us who got it this season will stand a better chance of fighting it off next year. I recommend "The Vaccine Book" by Dr. Sears for the most balanced and objective information on all things vaccine. You are going to find it is a REALLY emotionally charged subject for a lot of people on BOTH side of the argument. He discusses them from both an individual and a public health perspective, compares rates of side effects and their severity with odds of getting the illnesses and the possible complications. Some vaccines he supports strongly, others he poo-poos, based on what evidence he could gather. What worries at me is how little evidence, one way or another, there actually IS. Vaccinations definetly need to be studied more in depth and more long term. In the mean time I thought that book was very unbiased and help me make a lot of decisions similar to your current dilemma. Just no that whatever you decide, if you FEEL like it was the best choice for you baby, then it was the best choice you could have made at the time. :)

Regina - posted on 10/09/2009

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I am an office nurse and I get the flu shot and give it to my kids every year. I am exposed to all kinds of stuff, including H1N1...The best way to stay clear of these infections, is to wash your hands. If you are lucky enough to be home for the winter with your newborn than you may be able to escape most of these germs, unless you also have other little ones around.I realize that the H1N1 vaccine is just another flu vaccine, but I am always skeptical of new vaccines. I will not be getting myself or my kids the H1N1 vaccine for a few years yet. I have seen too much in my line of work and too many recalls that I will hold off a few years. On the other hand,if you are planning on breastfeeding and then get knocked down from the H1N1 or regular flu, you will become quite ill and not have much left in you to breastfeed your baby as you will dehydrate quickly yourself. Do your research and make your list of pros and cons..Good Luck!

Meredith Hertel - posted on 10/09/2009

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You are totally right, and it is a trade off....the vaccines change the body and they are neuron toxins. They get stuck in your t2cells or harbored there-meaning side effects form and alter the body's ability to fight off diseases. Later in life, you become sicker ... Hence, one of the contributers to cancer. My kids are not vaccinated period! Please check out Mercola.com andreally do your homework carefully.

Meredith Hertel - posted on 10/09/2009

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I would not get it! Eat healthy and get plenty of rest. Please check out mercola.com for reputable "real" research and not marketed, and hyped up from the drug companies.

Kim - posted on 10/09/2009

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I SO know where you are coming from! I've been going through the same debate as to whether or not to vaccinate my baby. I don't know what to do with childhood vaccines. Well, I do know, just not 100% ok with my decision (we're going to do the minimum recommended by our doctor)

Anyway, as far as the flu vaccine- I was listening to a tape about Kid's health and Dr. Mark Heiman (google him) said that the second most dangerous substance to human biology is mercury. It was in children's vaccinations for years and was then taken out when they realized how dangerous it is. However it is STILL in the flu vaccine!
I haven't gotten the flu vaccine in YEARS (even when I was pregnant) and I won't be allowing my kids to have it. (Now to just convince my husband)
I have more info on alternatives, if you are interested. PM me or e-mail me at kimlepper@gmail.com

Mary - posted on 10/09/2009

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This video shows a doctor talking about this vaccine. People are being way to dramatic about this. This is why Americans have such crappy immune systems.

Varesca - posted on 10/09/2009

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I don't know if this can help you. My kids don't get the flu frequently because they use a natural vitamines named Multi Tarts. It will protect the DNA and fight free radicals for an healthier immune system. This is from Nutrilite more than 60 years old company making natural vitamines. I'm a member of the corporation Quixtar which provide this vitamines. But only being a costumer or a member you can get them. You have to use my Independent Business Owner number which is # 4713785.

There are also for adults Double X which help to protect us from free radicals and prevent flu, deseases and more. Take a look at this webpage www.quixtar.com. You can send them mails with questions and get answers.

Also have an Air Purifier which purify the air in house. No odor, dust, viruses, bacteria, smoke and more can be a problem or menace in my home, because i keep my home clean and fresh and healthy. Take a look at the webpage i give in the beginning. Mothers if you have questions you can use mine email for faster answers. varescamaria73@hotmail.com

Look if this can help.

Heather - posted on 10/09/2009

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Quoting Heather:

I know I will not be getting the vaccine. I got the flu shot once a long time ago and that was the only year I was sick. I haven't gotten one since. I tend to be very healthy (knock on wood) ;o). I'm not sure yet about my kids. One thing is that they're around grandma a lot and I don't want them giving it to her. But, she's getting the shot so she should be ok, right? Someone posted that there's mercury in the shot. I'll have to check that out. If it's true then I will not let me kids get it. I don't like vaccinations much. I know some have done a lot of good. But I tend to lean on the natural side of things. I don't mind the kids getting sick, I think it's part of being a human being and I think that fearing they will die is over the top. Someone else posted that the vaccine isn't the live virus. According to the Today show that is not true. They showed someone getting the mist and said it's a weakend version of the virus. It's not antibodies. Your body makes the antibodies when introduced to the vaccine. As far as wether it can make you sick I don't know. Good luck with your decision.



Addition: There is a difference between the mist and the shot. The mist is active virus the shot is not. I didn't know that when I posted last. :o)

Kay - posted on 10/08/2009

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dont do it...this vaccine has only been test for what 7 months...NOT worth the risk. the media is freaking people out, its just the flu like a really bad cold, if you are healthy you should not worry

Jenifer - posted on 10/08/2009

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Quoting tiffany:

i would'nt do it....it's not like any other 'regular flu shot' either. this has squaline adjunct which is used to boost the immunogenicity of the vaccine so the drug companies can make an even bigger profit. adjuncts were never even fda approved until this vaccine and have links to auto immune diseases. olive oil contains it and when eaten it has antioxident properties and your immune system recoginizes it. BUT, when injected, your body will now find and destroy ALL the naturally occuring squaline in vital areas like your central nervouse system. not to mention, thermasol (preservative containing mercury) is 50 times more toxic then mercury itself. btw...the pharm companies have more money then god and they're going to whatever it takes to keep it that way...i would'nt be so quick to dismiss the mercury-autisim connection. oh yeah and Kathleen Sibelius, the department of health and human services secretary has given immunity to the makers of swine flu vaccine (tamiflu & relenza) and any 'associated adjuvants'. so if you or your child dies or comes down with any of the dieseases that are associated with this vaccine...YOUR SCREWED! you are on your own. they've ushered this vaccine with almost no testing (nothing compared to what fda normaly requires) and they're targeting children for christ's sake! come on people wake up! the fda & media don't have YOUR best intrests at heart...they're in bed with the big pharm companies who are more powerful then you know...so powerful they lobby to change laws that protect us! don't be a bunch of blind trusting sheep...the bottom line is the all mighty $$$. i was watching footage of them shooting the mist up this kids nose and it was very unnerving! the benifits don't outweigh the risks....just my opinion. btw, my kids have never had flu shots and they're still alive. we take supplements, eat healthy, get 15 min of sun to boost vit d to keep a strong immune system. we're also 'ocd handwashing freaks' now...lol. hope i didn't offend anyone...i just get up in arms when i see people hurt from trusting some corrupt political agency. stay healthy everyone! good luck!


Wow. Soooo much misinformation. The H1N1 shot being used in the US does not contain squalene. We don't use any adjuvants in flu vaccines here. However, the vaccines being produced for other countries - Canada, Britian, etc - do contain squalene. Just like their seasonal flu vaccines contain it, with no increased rate of adverse reactions. i have no idea where you got the idea about it destroying things in the body, but it isn't correct.



Thimerosal is not 50 times more dangerous than metallic mercury - just the opposite. The body exretes it quite rapidly. Really, you'd get a much higher dose of mercury from a single tuna sandwich. The single exposure isn't the issue - it is chronic exposure that is the problem. Of course, the flu shot given to pregnant women doesn't contain thimerosal anyway, so what does it matter?



The mercury-autism connention has been dismissed by study after study, using different populations, different methods, and different research groups. I'm amazed, quite franky, to see it brought up so frequently given the weight of the evidence against it.



This vaccine has been through the same testing that the seasonal flu shot goes through every year. Which makes sense, since it is formulated the same exact way that the seasonal shot it. Actually, with all the media attention and specuation about the extent of the pandemic, both the virus and the vaccination program are being tracked more carefully than the flu usually is.



And if you do have one of the rare adverse reactions to the shot, you do have legal recourse. That's what the national vaccine court is for. The vaccine manufactures pay into a fund to compensate anyone injured by vaccines. It is a bit like an insurance program.



Don't believe everything you read on the internet. I agree that good handwashing and diet are important, but the risks of the disease are still there. Especially for someone who is pregnant - and at greater risk for complications - considering the vaccine is a good idea. I never had the flu shot until after my son was born. Before that, while I was pregnant, I had a miserable case of the flu - I'd never felt so sick. The vaccine isn't a guarantee, but I see it as just one more way to stay healthy.

Petro - posted on 10/08/2009

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I would not go for a vaccine while you are pregnant, if you are planning to breastfeed your child you will pass all the anti-bodies needed to your child, and would be the best and most natural thing to do. Think about it... the doctors have never suggested pregnant women get any vaccines before this swine-flu; pandemic, if the vaccine contains all the same ingredients as all the other vaccines, bar the virus why should this be saver than any of the other? In general I have not heard anything good about this vaccine and it makes my hair stand on end that pregnant women would think about doing this.

Tiffany - posted on 10/08/2009

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one more 'shadey' thing i read is that the drug maker baxter applied for the patent one year before the outbreak. hhhmmmmm. and the virus is grown on human aborted fetuses. that would create a dilema for the prol-ifers, don't know if it's true or not but ewwwwww...

Tiffany - posted on 10/08/2009

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i would'nt do it....it's not like any other 'regular flu shot' either. this has squaline adjunct which is used to boost the immunogenicity of the vaccine so the drug companies can make an even bigger profit. adjuncts were never even fda approved until this vaccine and have links to auto immune diseases. olive oil contains it and when eaten it has antioxident properties and your immune system recoginizes it. BUT, when injected, your body will now find and destroy ALL the naturally occuring squaline in vital areas like your central nervouse system. not to mention, thermasol (preservative containing mercury) is 50 times more toxic then mercury itself. btw...the pharm companies have more money then god and they're going to whatever it takes to keep it that way...i would'nt be so quick to dismiss the mercury-autisim connection. oh yeah and Kathleen Sibelius, the department of health and human services secretary has given immunity to the makers of swine flu vaccine (tamiflu & relenza) and any 'associated adjuvants'. so if you or your child dies or comes down with any of the dieseases that are associated with this vaccine...YOUR SCREWED! you are on your own. they've ushered this vaccine with almost no testing (nothing compared to what fda normaly requires) and they're targeting children for christ's sake! come on people wake up! the fda & media don't have YOUR best intrests at heart...they're in bed with the big pharm companies who are more powerful then you know...so powerful they lobby to change laws that protect us! don't be a bunch of blind trusting sheep...the bottom line is the all mighty $$$. i was watching footage of them shooting the mist up this kids nose and it was very unnerving! the benifits don't outweigh the risks....just my opinion. btw, my kids have never had flu shots and they're still alive. we take supplements, eat healthy, get 15 min of sun to boost vit d to keep a strong immune system. we're also 'ocd handwashing freaks' now...lol. hope i didn't offend anyone...i just get up in arms when i see people hurt from trusting some corrupt political agency. stay healthy everyone! good luck!

Rachelle - posted on 10/08/2009

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I wouldn't do it. There is not enought research supporting this vaccine. I think that the flu and the swine flu vaccine give you the illness rather than keep you from getting them. I have never not one never gotten sick and I don't give them to my child either. Don't do it!!! What if you get sick because of the vaccine?

Annie - posted on 10/08/2009

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If you are pregnant and due in 6 weeks (winter) then you should definitely get at least the flu vaccine to protect your baby. New borns are particulary susceptible to these infections because they are immunocompromised. I can understand your hesitatation about the swine flu vaccine because it has never been given before but you should at least protect your baby from the regular flu. Also, don't let a lot of people touch your baby, have everyone wash their hands, and don't take your baby to church. These are a few ways of decreasing the amount of germs that your baby will come in contact with.

CANDACE - posted on 10/08/2009

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My grandson's pediatrician who is the best,if you live in nf his dr is dr Bob Gadawski from lewiston peds, he is the BEST!! HE told us all the flu shorts are made with egg and what ever the flu strain is this year in china. he said it could be called something else next yr.also he said if someone got the shots and got menestral craamps when they got it they would blame the shot when it isnt true. i have never ever gotten any shots either for the flu but will get the seasonal one this yr to protect my 5 yr old grandson. i know the swine flu shots are in erie county now,and am sure it has to be approved before thy would allow it to be given to their people. i would ck to be sure it has had 100 percent approval with the food and drug admin.before you get it. if it hasnt been approved yet i would not get it, but talk to your drs too ok. and Good Luck. i know whatyou are going through as i am so feared by this dumb bug.i was told because i was born in 1950 that i am immuned to it as it was around then and i never knew that.

Heather - posted on 10/08/2009

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I know I will not be getting the vaccine. I got the flu shot once a long time ago and that was the only year I was sick. I haven't gotten one since. I tend to be very healthy (knock on wood) ;o). I'm not sure yet about my kids. One thing is that they're around grandma a lot and I don't want them giving it to her. But, she's getting the shot so she should be ok, right? Someone posted that there's mercury in the shot. I'll have to check that out. If it's true then I will not let me kids get it. I don't like vaccinations much. I know some have done a lot of good. But I tend to lean on the natural side of things. I don't mind the kids getting sick, I think it's part of being a human being and I think that fearing they will die is over the top. Someone else posted that the vaccine isn't the live virus. According to the Today show that is not true. They showed someone getting the mist and said it's a weakend version of the virus. It's not antibodies. Your body makes the antibodies when introduced to the vaccine. As far as wether it can make you sick I don't know. Good luck with your decision.

Ashley - posted on 10/08/2009

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I never get the flu shot... and I never got the flu until a couple of years ago when I was pregnant with my daughter. I felt a little better about my decision not to get the shot, after I found out that the strain of flu I had was not vaccinated against that year. That's the thing about the flu shot, you never can be certain that you won't still get a strain that isn't included in the vaccine, you still need to be very careful. I'm pregnant again and I'm a little concerned this year about all the flu talk. I haven't decided what I'm going to do yet... although the area I live in doesn't have any swine flu vaccines yet, I don't know when I would be able to get one if I wanted one :)

Edeanna - posted on 10/08/2009

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Hygiene is the single most effective method of prevention for any infectious disease and is absolutely the best method of preventing infection of the H1N1 flu virus or seasonal flu. And, if you don't normally get sick with the flu, it may not be important for you to get vaccinated. However, if you fall into a high risk group, and I cannot stress enough how at risk pregnant women are IF they get infected with H1N1, then the vaccine is the MOST effective method of prevention, in concert with excellent hygiene practices. I never get vaccinated for flu, but for my kids' sake, I will get the H1N1 vaccine. I've been studying this topic and writing on it since May (www.neahin.org/h1n1) and am only newly convinced that I will get my family vaccinated. It's not an easy decision for me, but it's the right thing to do for my kids. Get informed and consider all of your options, consult your doctor, and listen to his/her advice. The government is concerned about the fact that this is a PANDEMIC. Worldwide the number of people who have died ffrom this disease are not as high as seasonal flu, HOWEVER, of those who have died, infant and child death is significantly higher than for any other flu virus in history. Make sure you understand teh information out there and make a sound decision.

Edeanna - posted on 10/08/2009

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Hi there,

I have done massive amounts of research on the H1N1 flu virus since May. I have never had a flu shot in my life and don't intend to get one. However, after long consideration I am now planning to get the H1N1 shot for myself, my 3 year old, and my 9 month old. Here's why I believe you should too: The H1N1 virus is a totally new mutation/variation from any other flu virus that exists. No one has an immunity to it...98% of flu cases in the U.S. and abroad are H1N1, and those most highly at risk are kids from 2-18 years of age. Your newborn cannot get vaccinated until he/she is at least 6 months. His/her only protection from the virus is to not get exposed. Additionally, pregnant women are at an even higher risk of complication from H1N1 than with the seasonal flu. YOu cannot get sick from a vaccine, no matter how many stories you hear to the contrary. it's a scientific fact. You are being exposed to the antibodies, not the infectious virus. Talk to your healthcare provider to get more facts, visit flu.gov and read up/watch podcasts, and check out www.neahin.org/h1n1 for information in simplified language (geared toward teachers and school professionals). I would highly recommend that with your doctor's approval, you do recieve the H1N1 vaccine. The risks are too high otherwise.

Jessica - posted on 10/08/2009

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I notice year after year that the people who get flu-shots tend to be sick all year. Has anyone else noticed that same thing? And call me paranoid but the government and media pushing this swine-flu vaccine THIS MUCH seems a bit fishy to me. I say do what you can to boost your immune systems, practice good hygene and don't lick any strangers.

Trina - posted on 10/07/2009

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It is true that the media and government has definately hyped this up. On the government of Canada website it even states that some 30,000 people die in the US of the regular flu every year. So far, what, 200 people have died to the swine flu? I am very scared to get any flu vaccine since the one year I did get it (the year my son was born) I was sick with infection after infection for 8+ months right after having the shot. My son and husband got the shot and were fine though. I will definately be reading up more on the swine flu vaccine before I subject any of my family to it.

Catherine - posted on 10/07/2009

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It is now believed by many that vaccines cause autism. Watch your step. Too many people believe everything doctors tell them, and the truth is, they don't know much at all.

Kelley - posted on 10/07/2009

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I am really concerned over this H1N1 vaccine. I am not a fan of the regular flu vaccine, because regardless of what the experts say, I always get sick. They can say all they want how safe it is, but come on? They recall tylenol once every couple of years for one thing or another and this just came on the Market this month. No thanks.

Liz - posted on 10/07/2009

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By the way...my daughter was a winter baby...has never had a flu shot and does fine. I don't get any flu shots and very rarely get sick. I do not have health problems. It's your choice so do your research and do what you feel is best.

Liz - posted on 10/07/2009

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Greta - posted on 10/07/2009

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Well I don't know if I am the best person to ask, but I'll give my input. I have gotten all of my vaccinations from the time I was a child. I have always had a lot of health problems, and I think without the shots, I probably would be a lot worse off. On the other hand I know some people who choose not to, and don't have trouble. It seems like a bit of Russian Roulette to me. However; for your babies safety I do think it would be a good idea. Especially with a winter baby. My winter baby got RSV and was in the hospital. The scary part about it was she was 18 months old when it happened. I thought it was only newborns. But you have to protect all ages of kids when it comes to cold's and flu's. PS. I had the swine flu this summer, it REALLY SUCKS!

Misty - posted on 10/07/2009

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I would say to get the vaccines because the swine flu and the flu are highly contagious and they seem to be getting worse. I am not pregnant but I am getting all three of my children vaccinated and my roommate is pregnant and getting the vaccines.

Felisa - posted on 10/07/2009

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Quoting Heather:

Here is my thought on the vaccines... I get them for my kids, I am also pregnant, and am due in 6 weeks too. I was told to get the swine flu vaccine also. I feel that the swine flu is not as big a deal as it is hyped up to be. If they reported on the news all the people and kids who die from the regular flu annually I bet it really outnumbers what we have seen with this new strain called "the swine flu" I think its just a story that the news over covers. Most people are recovering fine. BUT.. like I said, I want to do whats best for the babies too, and I imagine that the H1N1 vaccine is made just the same way as the regular flu vaccine and I have sen no ill effects of that one on my 18 month old. And from all the research I have read and learned at work as an RN, the connections they make with the ingredients in all of these vaccines and autism, etc cannot be proven. As with any medication and vaccine, you never know how they will affect the individual. When my kids are older maybe I won't get it anymore, who knows. But for now I'd rather err on the side of caution.


There is a big problem with these flu vaccines and the push for everyone to get them.  There is too much contradictory information available for there not to be concern over it.  I have even heard those promoting the vaccines contradict themselves.  I have been advising others to please do some research before making your decision.  The package inserts for each type of flu vaccine is available at www.fluscam.com.  You can see the ingredients, the target population, the testing results, side effects, and the possible long-term effects that may result.  You will also see that the vaccines have not been tested for fertility, fetal, or carcinoma effects.  (The insert that I read even stated that the H1N1 virus has been around since the 70's, so it is not new.)  For me, ANY risk of getting these terrible health problems is not worth it, no matter how small they say it is.  They've only tested several thousand people.  They want millions to be vaccinated.  Also, the FluMist vaccine, which is the nasal spray, does contain the live virus, and can, therefore, be contracted with contact.  The insert states that the multi-dose injectable vaccine for children does contain mercury.  The swine flu is, more than likely, being hyped up.  In fact, it has been reported so.  We may not be able to see the ill effects of these vaccines until years from now.  I'd rather just get sick and build a natural immunity.  Can the connection to autism be disproved?  No.  Do we really want to take that chance?  I don't.  There are many doctors, nurses, and scientists out there who are NOT supporting the vaccinations.  Read the Mayo Clinic report.  Check into the manufacturers' reports.  Then decide for yourself which choice is best for you and your family, because that's what it should be - a choice.  :)  So, for me, I'd rather err on the side of caution and NOT get the vaccine.

Heather - posted on 10/07/2009

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Here is my thought on the vaccines... I get them for my kids, I am also pregnant, and am due in 6 weeks too. I was told to get the swine flu vaccine also. I feel that the swine flu is not as big a deal as it is hyped up to be. If they reported on the news all the people and kids who die from the regular flu annually I bet it really outnumbers what we have seen with this new strain called "the swine flu" I think its just a story that the news over covers. Most people are recovering fine. BUT.. like I said, I want to do whats best for the babies too, and I imagine that the H1N1 vaccine is made just the same way as the regular flu vaccine and I have sen no ill effects of that one on my 18 month old. And from all the research I have read and learned at work as an RN, the connections they make with the ingredients in all of these vaccines and autism, etc cannot be proven. As with any medication and vaccine, you never know how they will affect the individual. When my kids are older maybe I won't get it anymore, who knows. But for now I'd rather err on the side of caution.