The safety harness

Sharon - posted on 08/08/2009 ( 25 moms have responded )

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Ok the other post has gotten really long and the original question was "would you use one" and its denigrated to "is it right to use one"



I found this while browsing...



http://www.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/personal/...



Excerpts...



"Using adapted tests designed for human children, psychologists have learned that average dogs can count, reason and recognize words and gestures on par with a human 2 -year-old."



"He said the average dog can understand about 165 words, including signs, signals and gestures. They can also count to about 5, he said."



Knowing that - are you still going to keep your dog on a leash? I mean HOW DARE YOU? Its smarter than your toddler!



Dogs can figure and use logic according the article - some most dedicated pet owners already know. I mean seriously, any time a dog figures that opening a series of drawers will allow it walk up on to the counter easily to get into the cabinets above the counter - THEY CAN FIGURE.



Now dogs are just THAT smart. And yet we keep them on leashes, why? Becuase they aren't capable of understanding the consequences of EVERY action without some sort of reminder .. huh you mean like a safety harness?

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Lydia - posted on 08/15/2009

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Interesting to see this thread with a majority of pro-harness/leash mums. Wondered where they were all hiding for the last one!

It must be the pixie in me - but I actually cant wait for the first person to tell me that I am a lazy or otherwise 'bad' parent for using one when Im out with my girl :}

Bernie - posted on 08/15/2009

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yes, i have used one and would on my grandchildren. depends on the age of course.. i used it, hooked to his belt loop when we went to the fair. i would rather have him on a leash and look bad than to lose him in a big crowd! to each his own parenting techniques!

Katherine - posted on 08/13/2009

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Quoting Tara:

I think people that use the harness instead of actually watching their kids ARE lazy. I've always thought they were more for when you are by yourself with more than one active toddler, or if you have an active toddler and a newborn and just need that extra help when you are by yourself.
If my husband is with me, I figure he can man up and chase the toddler around if needed, but if I'm by myself, I want to make sure both kids are safe and close to me.



I use a harness but I have a 23month old boy and a newborn, I only use it when i'm by myself as he is a very active little boy. If I am out with a friend or with my partner or family I don't use the harness, but I belive that it is good. I use to think people that used them were cruel to but since happing children myself I can see why they are used especially  if their child is as active as my little boy.

Selina - posted on 08/12/2009

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I agree with Jenny, April & Crystal on this topic. I am NOT LAZY. So judge me because I want to ensure the safety of my daughter. There is nothing wrong with wanting to protect your child from the outside dangers. Just because YOU can easily judge whether or not to run in the street doesn't mean that every child is like that. You can say, like all mothers say, my child listens well, but for that one instance where your child is exhibiting her independence, you need to keep her safe while not holding her back. I'm not gonna lie, I didn't like the fact of getting her a harness either, but once she started to walk & we were at Disneyland, there was no way in the world that she was gonna hold onto my hand ALL DAY LONG. Her monkey harness is a life saver for me when I am buy myself or even with my husband in a very crowded area. Her monkey let's her explore her surroundings without her ducking in & out of covered areas. Give us mothers who love & want to protect their children a break!

Jennie - posted on 08/12/2009

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I want to say that I agree with Crystal and April both on this issue. For I am one of those parents that turned for a second and she was gone. I'm lucky that I was in a contained store, but she was hiding behind clothes. For about 3- 4 minutes she was gone. That was the most horrifing moment in my life. I' sure it was a sight for the store manager to find my terrified little girl and then to see both of us crying holding each other. I never want to see that look on my baby girls face ever again. That day I decided that I was going to purchase one. It's a monkey backpack with a tail, my girlfriend told me about these because I didn't care for the others. We've used it a half a dozen times and it's there when we need it. We are by no means lazy people for using them, it's the safety of our children first and foremost. I, before having my daughter, thought the same, how could someone put their child on one of those things. My mother even suggested getting one a few months ago and I refused. I've seen where the children are drug thru the store or down the street on one and it breaks my heart. All toddlers push the limits with all of us, so I think it's a decision for each family to make.

Crystal - posted on 08/12/2009

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I was one of those women that before I had my daughter was like "Why in the world would you put a leash on your child!!! That's just wrong. Then I had my beautiful daughter. She listens well, knows her boundries in our yard and her Grandparents yard. But when she decided she was a big girl and needed to walk around, I can't count the number of times she yanked from my hand, my husbands, her aunts, and both grandparents. WE ARE NOT LAZY!!! We simply want our children to be as safe as possible.....We still watch our children we still make them mind and hold our hands. Really if you were walking down the street holding your childs hand and God forbid someone grabs him/her, your hand could slip right out of hers when you're not expecting it. But having his/her hand and the harness is much more safe - he won't make it very far with that strap around your wrist. Or that person might not even attempt to take your child. We love our children and only want the best for him. In crowded places you can get separated very easily. I know that if we're someplace crowded and I was holding my husbands hand we got seperated my rude people who think of no one but their selves. Now as adults we have tight grips on one and other, but do you think a toddler has that tight of a grip. There are really rude people out there and they don't care if they push over your child. I know in Walmart one day this woman squeezed past me and my daughter running into my daughters stroller with her card and hitting my daughters foot hard! She never even missed a beat, while my child was crying, never looked back never said sorry. So of course being an outspoken person and VERY protective of my childs saftey - I said a few words to her. SAFTEY IS OUR NUMBER 1 PRIORITY FOR OUR CHILDREN.

April - posted on 08/12/2009

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Ok, I don't usually reply to debates, I don't like the arguing. I am a peaceful person. However, that being said, there is nothing wrong with using a harness!! I read on here someone that said that a mother who uses a harness is lazy. That is what set MY fuse. Is she trying to honestly tell me that her toddler has NEVER yanked his/her hand out of hers and tried to take off? I don't think so. I will never believe her if she did. My son listens very well and is a very easygoing child and just the other day he yanked his hand out of my father's hand and tried to take off. I'm sure you all know how scary that is. It was then that we got out his monkey backpack and put it on him. It has a long tail on it to hold onto so he can't get away. My mother, who is the one who bought it for me, worked in a hospital and had seen way to many kids come into the ER after they yanked their hands out of the parents grip and ran out into the street and was hit by a car. How about those kids who get lost in the stores? You turn around to get something off the shelf and they are gone! Have you ever seen the terror on the child's face when they cannot find their mother? How about the terror on the parent's face? I have seen it on both and I pray to GOD that I never have to see that again! The best place to use one is in a very crowded place where the child can easily get separated. We still hold his hand to teach him that he should ALWAYS hold an adult's hand. The harness is just a back up just in case he tries to run. They are young and don't understand the dangers of the world yet. Use your common sense people!! I am pregnant with my second child and I fully intend on using a harness on her/him when the time comes also!

Tamara - posted on 08/09/2009

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Quoting Lisa:

i never used the harness that wraps around the body for my sons i had those ones that were more like a leash that got connected to their wrists and let me tell you it was a life saver especailly with my 3rd son, who insisted he needed to walk just like his brothers. so if they are used properly i dont see a problem with them...... Now dragging your child by them i dont agree with..


Lisa, this is totally OT but I love your profile picture of Storm.  Its a great depiction of her.

Lisa - posted on 08/09/2009

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i never used the harness that wraps around the body for my sons i had those ones that were more like a leash that got connected to their wrists and let me tell you it was a life saver especailly with my 3rd son, who insisted he needed to walk just like his brothers. so if they are used properly i dont see a problem with them...... Now dragging your child by them i dont agree with..

Tara - posted on 08/09/2009

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I think people that use the harness instead of actually watching their kids ARE lazy. I've always thought they were more for when you are by yourself with more than one active toddler, or if you have an active toddler and a newborn and just need that extra help when you are by yourself.
If my husband is with me, I figure he can man up and chase the toddler around if needed, but if I'm by myself, I want to make sure both kids are safe and close to me.

Dottie - posted on 08/09/2009

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I was always a mom (of 5 I might add) that looked at ppl using these and wondered why? are they just lazy? are their kids that out of control? Well, I have 15 month old twins and now I GET IT! I ordered mine a few weeks ago and have only used them once but I can see the need for us. I think I will only use them when I'm by myself w/ the babies and in a situation where I feel I have no choice if I want to keep my kids safe but I think its a personal decision and if used in the right way why not??

Amy - posted on 08/09/2009

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Call me ADD...I tend to get off track...I want to say sometimes, but my husband would STRONGLY disagree...LOL

Sharon - posted on 08/08/2009

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psh! I come up with that fantastic article and tie in to a current topic and y'all wanna talk fruit! LOL the grocery stores all spell it and call it different names. Costco, I'm pretty sure, calls it a "pummelo". ::: sigh ::: I'm gonna have to wait till a bit later to buy some more.. not in season yet!

Amy - posted on 08/08/2009

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Quoting Kate:

Amy: Don't you love that pic? It's a...what's that fruit he's got on his head again? Some sort of giant Korean grapefruit, I think.


I know Sharon is the only one with the correct answer...but I believe it's a pumelo (can't spell :-/ )

Kate CP - posted on 08/08/2009

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Amy: Don't you love that pic? It's a...what's that fruit he's got on his head again? Some sort of giant Korean grapefruit, I think.

Amy - posted on 08/08/2009

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It's so funny...If I see the cat with the melon on it's head, I can't help but look at the post...and as always, you got accurate information while keeping it interesting at the same time...Luv it!

Tara - posted on 08/08/2009

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I figure if you care enough about your dog to keep it on a leash to prevent it from coming to harm, getting lost or stolen away, why shouldn't you feel the same way about your kids?
Really, anyone with more than one kid knows that if you have a toddler and a newborn you just don't have enough hands, and, as far as I know, we haven't yet developed eyes in the back of our heads :)

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to cindy MacTaggart.... your house looks just like mine after hurricane Mia ( my little girl ) went through it!!! hehe :) x

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