Vaccinations

Meredith - posted on 02/23/2012 ( 206 moms have responded )

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I just don't feel right about giving my son any more vaccinations. He got his 2 month set. Since that time one of my girlfriends kids had his 6 month shots and was almost immediately hospitalized for 10 days and now has heart "issues." What freaked me out was that the doctor or the hospital- no one would confirm what the baby's mom knew- that is was the shots he had just the day before. How can we trust that any info is true? I'm an emotional wreck over this and have already skipped my 4 month appointment once. I'm just not sure where to turn for advice- I feel like everyone is so extreme and I have no idea what the truth is.

My mom says they used to take the polio vaccine on a cube of sugar ( it was a drop) Why cant we do vaccines like that anymore? On TV I saw them giving oral drops for polio in a foreign country.

Any advice on books to read or reasonable websites to visit. I'm willing to do anything here to satisfy myself.

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"The Vaccine Book" by Dr. Sears is a great resource. A lot of straight forward information without using scare tactics on either side. He tells you what's in them, possible reactions, points about the disease the vaccine covers, etc. For what it's worth, I read it and decided to vaccinate on a delayed schedule. I know others who read it and vaccinate on schedule and others who decided not to vaccinate at all. He doesn't push you in one direction or the other.

Cheryl - posted on 02/24/2012

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People that tell you there is no danger/risks with vaccination are very uniformed. I understand... I use to be one of them. Ignorance is bliss on this subject... until it's your child, or your friend's child, that has a severe reaction.



My pediatrician told me that every child that has come to his office with Whooping Cough were children that had previously received the vaccine. Does a 2 week old baby really need protection from Hep B? Where is the common sense? Why do we need to inject our children for diseases such as Chicken Pox? I remember how hard it was for me to give up the blind faith I had in the medical establishment.



Find out about the exemptions in your state directly... don't take your neighbor's word on it. They may be misinformed as well. Get informed and be strong. Good luck!

Fran - posted on 02/24/2012

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This vaccine debate drives me crazy....you are putting yourself and your child at more risk driving your car everyday than you are by vaccinating them and you are putting your child at serious risk for disease by not vaccinating them. Doctors today are seriously not interested in creating business for themselves by "making people sick" through vaccintations. Sorry to sound so harsh, but we have modern medicine for a reason.

Kate CP - posted on 02/23/2012

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DO NOT do the oral polio vaccine: it is the live virus vaccine! Many care providers won't even offer it any more because it can, in very rare circumstances, cause polio. Most would rather be safe than sorry and offer the killed virus.



Honestly, vaccines are very safe for MOST of the population. It's those who have a vaccine reaction history or a family history of vaccine reactions that usually have a hard time with shots. Your friend's son probably had a very small heart problem to begin with and the shot just exacerbated it. If you don't have a family history of vaccine reactions and your son has not suffer a reaction to the vaccines he's already had then he'll probably be fine. If you're still nervous about it, go to an alternate vaccine schedule and space them out.

Quyen - posted on 02/26/2012

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Hi Kimberly,



Thank you for sharing your family's experience with Whooping Cough. I'm sure it was a difficult and worrying time for you and your family. My daughter contracted whooping cough when she was 18 months. She had it for 6 weeks. She did not have antibiotics, but I did use natural remedies as well as being adjusted nearly everyday. I admit there were times I questioned whether our decision NOT to vaccinate was best, but on reflection, we stand by our decision NOT to vaccinate.



The reason I am telling you this is that unlike in your case, my daughter contracted whooping cough from a patient of mine - a child that HAD been vaccinated :-S so I belive it is a little unfair to say that UNvaccinated children "carry", hence "pass on" these diseases...we are not born with these germs so hence can not be carriers of them unless we contract it from someone else :-)



To vaccinate or not is a difficult decision as is, I'm sure you don't mean to, but please do not pile on even more guilt by implying that someone will jeapardize their childs' life by wanting to make a more informed decision... :-)

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Jodi - posted on 01/24/2013

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Lucy, SIDS is called SIDS because it stands for Sudden Infant Death Syndrome. There is no CAUSE per se. Sure, there have been babies die after they've had vaccinations. It's called correlation, sweetheart. Given that infants have vaccinations at 2, 4 and 6 months, it is highly likely that some incidents of SIDS coincided with having vaccinations. They probably coincided with the first experience of solid foods, first experience of formula, first common cold, and MANY other things that occur in the first years of life. But there is absolutely NO RESEARCH to back up that vaccinations CAUSE it. It is merely reported as a "risk factor" because it "correlates". So yes, you are spreading propoganda.

Lucy - posted on 01/24/2013

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Jodi,

It even warns on some of the vaccine inserts that they cause SIDS, they keep it out of the media so as not to put people off and destroy the industry. They say more lives are saved than lost, so hence a percentage dying of Cot Death is 'acceptable', at least that is their justification.

This is what it says on a Diphtheria Toxoids and Pertussis Vaccine Tripedia package insert

"‘Adverse events reported during post-approval use of Tripedia vaccine include idiopathic thrombocytopenic purpura, SIDS, anaphylactic reaction, cellulitis, autism, convulsion/grand mal convulsion, encephalopathy, hypotonia, neuropathy, somnolence and apnea. Events were included in this list because of the seriousness or frequency of reporting.’ "

Jodi - posted on 01/24/2013

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It is NOT vaccines that cause Cot Death. No-one KNOWS what causes cot death. FFS, get your facts straight if you are going to give advice. There is absolutely no evidence that ANY vaccines "cause" cot death whatsoever. You want to talk about fear-mongering? You are just spreading untruths and doing that quite well yourself.

Lucy - posted on 01/24/2013

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Well done, and don't let anyone fear monger you into allowing any more vaccines.

Lucy - posted on 01/24/2013

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You instinct is correct, hold off on anymore vaccines. Definitely wait until 2 year old before even thinking about any more. Remember it is vaccines that cause Cot Death (in particular the Whooping Cough vaccine causes most SIDS). Wait at least until the age of 2 when cot death won't be an issue.

Sadie - posted on 05/16/2012

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My Son had his 8 week jabs and went from gaining 8oz a week exclusively breastfed to 3oz a week ( possibly the tetnus jab). A rash started developing along with a cough the rash has got worse. He stopped gurgling so much and playing with his gym. He never had his 12 week jabs
and won't be having any more. We have since seen a Homepath and he has got his appetite back is gurgling again and playing his rash has still to clear up.

All I will say is read The truth about Vaccines by Dr Richard Halvorsen an interesting read with an alternative schedule.

Stifler's - posted on 05/08/2012

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The well baby visits I find the most important bit is looking in their ears and checking their hips. You can't do that if you're not a health professional IMO. Nothing to do with immunisations.

Sarah - posted on 05/08/2012

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Oh and the reasons the baby visits drop off after they are older is not because the immunization schedules are over it's because as babies age, if no problem is detected after the first 1-2 years of life, they will be considered healthy. Babies still die in the first year of life from so many things that have gone undetected. In fact, the USA has one of the highest infant mortality rates in the developed world. When babies die in the first year, it's most often from genetic abnormalities or conditions, after that, it's accidents. If docs have even a tiny chance to protect and detect those conditions to prevent them, than mothers should present for their checks to do so.

Sarah - posted on 05/08/2012

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Laura, you obviously have very little education on what is or is not necessary for children medically. As a PEDIATRIC NURSE, I am drawing from MY experience, MY knowledge, MY training, not Google, equally uneducated friends and family, and doctors that apparently I never see. Just because you type something into a website or read a book on childrearing doesn't make you an expert on pediatric medicine. Well baby visits have nothing to do with immunizations, they are about checking an infants overall health because even though most babies will grow and develop well with no concerns, many also have minor or major concerns that require medical intervention. Yes, they will ask about immunizations at a visit, but not because they don't need to see them as much, but because they need to see them MORE! Kids who aren't immunized pose a risk to themselves and other people in the community. Something that may seem to be a minor cold in them could actually be a major communicable illness with the potential of killing other people. Infants too young for immunizations are at particular risk. I suspect the major reason most people avoid docs when they've chosen to not immunize is because they are ashamed that they are potentially spreading deadly illnesses, not because they fear their doctor will judge them for it.

"weight,- can be measured at home" (Yes it can, but scales people can buy at home are meant for adults, not infants. They can be wrong by as much as 10%, in an infant, this is HUGE! Plus since medications are dosed based on weight, if a parent needs to give their child medication for anything, they really should know a completely accurate weight).

"growth, - same" (I have yet to meet a mother that routinely measures the circumference of her infant's head. This measurement is vital in screening for abnormalities with brain development and can detect a child's risk for mental retardation. As well a doctor will plot an infants height and weight on a growth chart and monitor for signs of excessive or too slow gain).

"developmental delays,- most moms know what's appropriate for what age" (This is a generalized statement with no basis in reality. Read the boards on here! How many Moms are asking for others opinions on development and what is normal and what is not? There are so many variants of normal for children. Sometimes when we see our children every day we aren't aware of their changes of lack thereof. A doctor who sees them every so often will be more likely to pick these up)

"undetected genetic conditions, - if theres a problem then a mom would set up a visit" (Thus the term UNDETECTED. There are thousands of genetic conditions out there and they aren't always obvious. Sometimes it's a simple little thing like a minor eye twitch or tick. Other times it's something you can't detect unless you listen to their chest or abdomen. I can't count how many babies I've seen come in that haven't seen a doctor and then are diagnosed with heart conditions when they come in for a cold. I've yet to meet a mother that has purchased a stethoscope and learned how to routinely listen to their child's chest and abdomen).

"anemia,- again, if a problem arises a visit can be placed
blood disorders,- same" (Also, not necessarily detectable by someone who isn't trained to know the signs and symptoms of either. Why wait until your child is so obviously sick they could be dying? Babies in particular compensate for an extremely long time before they show symptoms of illness. This is why kids seem to get sick so quickly, because once they do show signs, their little bodies are near shutting down).

"electrolyte imbalances, - not sure what this is" (Electrolytes are Calcium, Magnesium, Potassium, etc. They are responsible for basically running everything in your body, your muscles, including your heart, lungs, etc. These can fluctuate with even a few loose bowel movements or constipation, fluctuations with eating, etc. Even a minor change can result in damage or death.)

"jaundice,- this is in the week after birth when moms are already being monitored" (Actually, jaundice can appear anytime in the first month of life, yes it is more common in the fresh neonate, but can still happen. Plus babies can also get breastmilk jaundice. Jaundice can also can lead to death.)

"dental health, - this would be a dentist" (Not true. Doctors do check dental health. Most dentists don't see children until they are over 3 years old unless there is an obvious cavity. Yet infants should have all their teeth by the time they see a dentist. Doctors fill in the void until they are old enough for cleanings and checkups with the Dentist.)

"breastfeeding, - pediatritions are not trained in breastfeeding and shouldnt be giving advise" (Not all doctors do know a ton about breastfeeding, but they can advise on how long to nurse, what problems to look out for such as mastitis, thrush, and clogged ducts).

"maternal PPD, - if mom needs a dr she will go" (Also a false statement. Most women with PPD actually avoid their doctors out of stigma and fear that they will lose their babies, or simply don't have the physical energy to get up and go. A blanket statement that a woman will go if she needs help doesn't hold water when many mother's have killed their children after having undiagnosed and untreated PPD that lead to a psychosis.)

"problems with feeding- lactation consultant" (Not every town has an LC, nor do all moms know about them.)

"hearing and sight concerns,- not a well baby visit" (I don't know if you've actually been at a well baby visit, but this is most definitely checked. Many people don't understand that 90% of a physical assessment is done without even touching the baby. Observation of eye contact, turning of the head to follow voice, etc. checks these things. If a baby has vision or hearing concerns they are better addressed the younger they are so as not to have developmental delays as a result.)

"speech delays- same" Also is done at a well baby visit. I have yet to be to a doctor with my daughter that hasn't asked about babbling, etc., and she has seen MANY because of a genetic condition SHE was born with requiring her to have surgery, that, OH, my family doc ran the test after a well baby visit and a fever she had with a bladder infection. Even as a nurse, I was shocked when the test came back positive. I had no idea and as a loving mother couldn't link her symptoms to it. I look back now and everything fits, but at the time, also fit for a healthy baby. Sometimes things are subtle and it takes an outsider with an actual medical degree to pick them up.)

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Sarah I get my info from friends, online, drs, family, and books.
Well baby visits are good for moms who don't know much on baby care, or who are new to it, or who don't have time to dedicate to keeping up on all the latest info butits not something every single mom and baby needs everysingle time it's scheduled. The reason there are X amount of well baby checks is because of the vaccines.
When they children don't need so many vaccines anymore then the visits drop to yearly so that proves my point well.
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Sherri - posted on 05/08/2012

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Laura after the age of 2 my kids didn't get any vaccines until they were 5 and then not again until they are 12. They still need to go every single year for a well visit even though they don't get any vaccines.

Also their pediatrician does test their site and hearing during their well visits.
My pediatrician does also help about breastfeeding
She also does check their teeth at every well visit as well on top of their dental visits.
They will check for some things moms wouldn't necessarily know about for developmental delays.

Also I am not a mom who is new to this. I have 4 kids from 15 to newborn, it still is very important for them to have their well visits even though they aren't being vaccinated. So I really have a hard time swallowing some of things you posted as reasons not to bring them.

Merry - posted on 05/08/2012

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weight,- can be measured at home
growth, - same
developmental delays,- most moms know what's appropriate for what age
undetected genetic conditions, - if theres a problem then a mom would set up a visit
anemia,- again, if a problem arises a visit can be placed
blood disorders,- same
electrolyte imbalances, - not sure what this is
jaundice,- this is in the week after birth when moms are already being monitored
dental health, - this would be a dentist
breastfeeding, - pediatritions are not trained in breastfeeding and shouldnt be giving advise
maternal PPD, - if mom needs a dr she will go
problems with feeding- lactation consultant
, hearing and sight concerns,- not a well baby visit
speech delays- same

Sarah I get my info from friends, online, drs, family, and books.
Well baby visits are good for moms who don't know much on baby care, or who are new to it, or who don't have time to dedicate to keeping up on all the latest info butits not something every single mom and baby needs everysingle time it's scheduled. The reason there are X amount of well baby checks is because of the vaccines.
When they children don't need so many vaccines anymore then the visits drop to yearly so that proves my point well.

Sarah - posted on 05/08/2012

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I don't know where you get your info on well baby visits not being important Laura. This is not true at all. They are extremely important. They are used to screen for weight, growth, developmental delays, undetected genetic conditions, anemia, blood disorders, electrolyte imbalances, jaundice, dental health, breastfeeding, maternal PPD, problems with feeding, hearing and sight concerns, speech delays, etc. They are extremely important. If problems are detected, they can often be treated early, preventing further complications. Homeopathic medicines are meant to be complimentary to conventional medicine, not a replacement for.

Merry - posted on 05/08/2012

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I know many families who don't vaccinate and their dr soecificly says that if you're not vaccinating there's no real need to go in for well check ups as often as others do. They've been told to just come in when the kid is sick or needs a visit.
Really, the well baby checks aren't that important.
And most moms who don't vaccinate know all of the basics for baby medical care as well as the drs in some cases.
Some use natural paths instead of regular pediatritians, many use chiropractors.
Just because it isn't mainstream doesn't mean they're sticking their heads in the sand.

Abby - posted on 05/07/2012

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My biggest problem is with parents who avoid taking their children in for regular check ups because they are "avoiding" the vaccination convo with the doctor. Choosing not to vaccinate is not an excuse for not making sure your child gets regular health care. If your doctor does not respect your vaccination wishes, go to a new one. But don't stop taking them to the doctor because you don't want to vaccinate.

Jenn - posted on 05/06/2012

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Yes, it can be scary because there is so much information for and against immunuzations, making the right choice for your baby can be overwhelming and perplexing! There is always a risk when it comes to vaccines, just like there is risk in not vaccinating. Continue your research, talk to your pediatrician about a possible alternate vaccine schedule, then decide what you feel is best for your baby and your peace of mind. Everyone has so much at play when it comes to our genetic makeup, our environment, etc. don't avoid the wellness checkups, they aren't just for vaccinations, but also to measure, weigh and assess your baby's overall growth and health.

Also, remember that if you don't like what your pediatrician has to say, switch! I went through three pediatricians before finding one who truly listened to me, accepted my choice to change the vaccine schedule and believed in alternatives to just handing out prescriptions. All doctors are not created equal, and most do actually care about your child's well being and not just a fat paycheck. Both of my girls are vaccinated at this point (5 1/2 and 7) extremely healthy and rarely sick.

Donna - posted on 05/06/2012

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I vaccinated both my girls, I believe if you can prevent your child being ill and you can stop them from suffering these illnesses that could kill them, then do it, there is nothing worse than seeing your child ill. I think i would feel so guilty if i hadnt vaccinated them against these illnesses and then one for them to get something and get seriously ill, especially when I could of prevented it. My mam didnt give me the whooping cough injection when i was a child because of the worry it was linked to autism, but she wished she had given me it, because wen i was bout 5 i got whooping cough and i can remember been very ill, and for my mam it was awful to see me like that, she wished she had prevented me from getting it. It is your decision at the end of the day and this is just my opinion and the reasons why i gave my girls the injections, im sure whatever you decide will be the best decision for you and your child.

Sandra - posted on 05/05/2012

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Within the last couple weeks there have been reports that whopping cough is on the rise. There was something about a school in Oregon having an outbreak of whopping cough. This is what happens when children are allowed to not be vaccinated. In my own town, one of the private schools has had an outbreak as well. This close to the end of school and the Health Dept is considering closing the school. No fieldtrips and field days for these kids. All this can be avoided if parents would have their kids vaccinated.

Ania - posted on 05/02/2012

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Vaccines are not dangerous, and how does this mom knew? Because intuition told her? if it was true doctors would confirm that this was the fault of the shot. If you are not sure do the research and you will know

Linda - posted on 04/27/2012

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It is ultimately your choice to keep your children unprotected on the very SMALL TINY Chance that they will have a reaction to them adversely. I however believe that NO CHILD should be allowed in Daycare, School or around other children at all if they are not vaccinated and ALL parents should be required to inform any social situation where children are present - that their child is not vaccinated and then anyone can make an informed decision to keep their children away from unvaccinated children. It is more likely that your child would win the lottery on the same day they get struck by lightening than have any reaction to vaccines. The odds are ASTROMONICAL and the studies being done for the past 5-8 years on the increase in Autistic diagnosis results show 2 definitive issues, women waiting until they are MUCH older to have children which seems to increase the chances for autism Significantly (Rudely referred to as "OLD EGG SYNDROME" by some calous people - and the spectrum for diagnosis has widened 10 fold over the past 10 years.

Tricia - posted on 04/27/2012

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Did your child have any reactions to any of the vaccines in the alternate schedule?

Lyndsi - posted on 04/22/2012

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Geez, ladies. I'm fairly certain all the bickering is in no way helping Meredith. As for my children, I have had both of them vaccinated. We believe our youngest, who is 3 1/2, has an Autism Spectrum Disorder. We have yet to see the specialist, but the general consensus from family, friends, and healthcare providers is that he does have autism. If he does he is definitely high functioning. He started losing his words and such around 15 months. If I could go back and do it again, I would still have him vaccinated. Sure, my baby angel may have autism, but by being vaccinated he has been protected from so many deadly diseases. Good luck with your decision. :)

Robyn - posted on 03/31/2012

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I was very hesitant about vacs too. But after doing countless hours of research pros/cons. We decided to get all the vacs for our child. He is a happy healthy 10 month old. We are actually natural parents but after all the research I have done I did decide to do it. I did not gets vacs 38 years ago but things were different back then. We did not have so many different things to worry about and did not have so many diseases coming over here from other countries. I say do lots of research and then decide. Your gut and brain will tell you what's best.

Mother - posted on 03/29/2012

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Ooops....LOL



They were on a decline before the introduction of vaccines.

Sherri - posted on 03/29/2012

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Mother the vaccines were on before vaccines entered the picture??? What this makes no sense.

Mother - posted on 03/29/2012

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I'm with you Jac. My daughter has only ever had one shot. she will NOT have another unless she so chooses it for herself.

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" I know that polio and other diseases have decreased since vaccines"



Actually these diseases were on BEFORE the vaccines entered the picture.

Kate CP - posted on 03/28/2012

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Uhh, polio, measles, mumps, rubella, pertussis, and diphtheria are also all deadly. Just an FYI.

Jac - posted on 03/28/2012

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My daughter had none of the infant shots, they are dangerous and harmful to their small bodies and brains. At 2 she got the tetanus shot because tetanus is deadly. She's now 5 and the strongest child I know, she doesn't even get regular coughs and colds like other kids, she just gets an occasional fever which is her immune system fighting something. She spent two weeks with two kids who had chicken pox and she never got the infection!! I work with her pediatrician to decide when and what shots to have, I think kids need to be older and stronger and not have these multiple shots in 1 jab.

Stifler's - posted on 03/21/2012

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I didn't have to "research" my choices. I know that polio and other diseases have decreased since vaccines, that's common knowledge. So I'm going to protect my children. Homeopathic vaccines sound like a joke to me.

Jodi - posted on 03/15/2012

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Ladies, if we can't keep it nice, I will shut this thread down and issue warnings, so leave the bickering out of it please.



Thank you.



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Mother - posted on 03/15/2012

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And as far as INSISTING anything. The only thing I'm insisting is.....to educate before you vaccinate.

Merry - posted on 03/15/2012

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Oh and there's sheeple in the unvaxxers too. Moms who hear one person who doesn't vax and so they trust them completely and justgo along with it.

Merry - posted on 03/15/2012

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Kate, I'm sure there's plenty of vaxers who do their homework etc, but most I know just vaccinate because their dr said so. Myself included for Eric's first two yers of life.

I WAS a sheeple, I had a feeling I should look into it but I just didn't and defaulted my choice to my dr.

Some people do vaccinate just cuz dr said so.

Not all but some.

Mother - posted on 03/15/2012

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Actually, that is not what I meant at all. What I was referring to was people who take the government/authorities WORD for something without investigating for themselves, just blindly accepting it as the truth.



For the record tho, I've been called many things by pro-vaxers. there was even a nice thread dedicated just for me, calling me an uneducated crazy conspiracy theorist. That's neither here nor there.

Kate CP - posted on 03/15/2012

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You know, Mother Bacher, if your goal is to insult people by calling names you're doing a bang-up job.



No one has called anti-vaxxers any names and yet you insist on calling those who choose to vaccinate sheep. Nice. Very nice.

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Children DO NOT have to be vaccinated in order to attend school. That is a myth. A scare tactic they try to sell you so you fall in line with the other sheeple....do not believe it. There are exemptions that are easily attainable.



Amber, so with you Hun....we don't vaccinate either. Can't believe that video....I'd never seen it before.

Audra - posted on 03/14/2012

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The immunizations are so important, and there are precautions you can take when taking your babies to get them. You'd hate to lose a child to a preventable disease too. Immunizations can have side-effects, so I request one immunization per visit, per kiddo. I also request a single-dose immunization, and if one is not available I just ask that it be given from a full and well-shaken bottle. This way, if my kiddo has an allergic reaction the doctor has a better chance of determining what caused the issue/how to treat it. If the poor baby is getting 3-4 different shots at once, it's going to be a lot harder to determine which one caused the issue. Also, as you get down to the bottom of the 'bottle,' there can be a much higher concentration of MERCURY. Never be afraid to re-schedule a shot.



There could have been more going on with your girlfriend's kiddo. Other medications they'd been given, an allergic reaction, an unknown heart condition to begin with?



Kids do have to be up-to-date on their vaccinations to attend a public school, I believe.

Mother - posted on 03/12/2012

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Dude....that isn't what you said but thanks for clarifying that NOW. I'm not sure how many homeschoolers you know.....but of the 3 different networks [approx 150 kids] I'm a member of only 5 of us don't vaccinate. And when we were in the public school system [approx. 500 kids] I personally knew 10 kids who weren't vaccinated. So, "most unvaccinated kids tend to be home-schooled or stay out of daycare.", was not a true statement.



Just sayin'

Kate CP - posted on 03/12/2012

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"I understand Kate, but all caps comes across differently than just empasis, imo. "



Well when you figure out a better way lemme know.

Kate CP - posted on 03/12/2012

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""No, I didn't SAY that was a fact. I said kids who are exposed to more germs get sick more frequently. THAT IS A FACT. "



--and I'm referring to you saying the comment "most unvaccinated kids tend to be home-schooled or stay out of daycare." That isn't true. There are oodles of unvaccinated kids in our regular schools and lots of vaccinated kids in our Homeschooling network. "



Dude, I never said it was a fact! I know there are plenty of each on either side of the board. Of all the kids and parents I have met who have chosen not to vaccinate about 90% of them have opted to home school as well. I'm not saying that the REASON they chose to home school was because they don't vaccinate. I'm just saying there is a correlation between the two that may account for why some kids who aren't vaccinated don't get sick as often.



My son has been fully vaccinated and has had ONE cold so far. He's 14 months old and has never even had an ear infection. My daughter is 6 years old, was fully vaccinated, and has been sick so many times I've lost count. The difference? My son stays at home with me while his sister goes to school. She's exposed to more pathogens around other kids. The vaccines don't have anything to do with whether or not a child is "sickly" or gets sick more frequently than others. They simply offer an immunity to certain pathogens.

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*Sorry, im not reading all the previous posts, so i may be repeating some people*



If you dont want to vaccinate your child, DONT, its your choice.

That being said, you should ask yourself if you are more worried about your child getting a pin prick, or the fact thatyou are putting man-made CHEMICALS into your childs body.. because the oral vaccine is still just that *CHEMICALS* ick..



I have four children, and none of them has ever receive a vaccine, and none ever will, unless and until they are 16 and make that choice themselves.



Take a few minutes and look up infant mortality rates vs. amount of vaccines given by country... or even more scary, check this out...http://coupmedia.org/vaccinations/bill-g...



You know THE Bill Gates...

horrendous!

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I understand Kate, but all caps comes across differently than just empasis, imo.

Mother - posted on 03/12/2012

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"No, I didn't SAY that was a fact. I said kids who are exposed to more germs get sick more frequently. THAT IS A FACT. "



--and I'm referring to you saying the comment "most unvaccinated kids tend to be home-schooled or stay out of daycare." That isn't true. There are oodles of unvaccinated kids in our regular schools and lots of vaccinated kids in our Homeschooling network.

Kate CP - posted on 03/12/2012

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No, I didn't SAY that was a fact. I said kids who are exposed to more germs get sick more frequently. THAT IS A FACT.



Vicki: When one does not have a method of italicizing one's words, one must resort to other methods of stressing emphasis. Hence, the capitols letters.

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"The only reason why it may SEEM like kids who aren't vaccinated are less sickly than vaccinated kids is because most unvaccinated kids tend to be home-schooled or stay out of daycare. "



--that is not fact.

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