Vaccine's .... my son is 4 months old

Rebecca - posted on 04/30/2009

Yes. My son didn't have any shots till 5 months and even then not all of them. I am all for vaccination but believe there are way too many way too soon! We've spread out a few shots and are holding off on several until he is at least 2 yrs.
So glad to see so many Mom's doing their own research and making their own choices for their families!

Sue - posted on 04/30/2009

I was fine with the standard vaccines but i have had real issues with giving my two the MMR. I went through the web and found a really good company who offer single vaccines, ok its a little expensive but reasurring for me. I have also not given the vaccinations at the standard intervals recommeneded by the government, I chose when they had them, remember its your choice what you do and how you do it even if the health visitors and doctors try to get you to do it their way Hope this helps

Melissa - posted on 04/30/2009

I have chosen to vaccinate all of my kids..I just want them to remain healthy.. the only shot that I haven't gotten for my kids is the flu shot. That one just seems strange to me.. If they get sick that just means that their body needs a bit to restore itself. Other then that I have received all the vaccinations for my kids and they are just fine.. I have 3 kids.. ages 9, 7, and 3..and all of their shots are up do date.. and I'd rather have them get all the shots needed in one trip rather then 2 or 3. I know that I don't like seeing them get the shots either ( what mother does want to see their kid cry) but it's better then if they were to get one of the illnesses that the shots are suppose to prevent..

Claire - posted on 04/30/2009

if you dont get ur child vaccined againts all the diseases ull blame urself if ur child actually gets the disease! my son is almost 8 months old and has has ALL of his injections and he is fine nothing wrong with him, i know its terrible to watch them get the needles and scream and cry but its better to get 2 needles once then 6 needles over 4 months its crazy. plus u need to think about all the other children out there who are vaccined and stuff.

Karen - posted on 04/30/2009

Hi Tammi,Funny you should ask. We have a site called Vaccines-The Mommy Force. Come check us out and add some post.Over the past week or so i haven't done much in posting because #1 i am in a bitter battle with the school district over the Hep B vax and #2 I am moving Saturday May 2nd. I am up packing now 3am here in New York and decided to take a little break. I'll send you an invite. Karen.

Melissa - posted on 04/29/2009

Oh I would like to add if you are looking for information on swine flu Dr. Butler also has great stuff on that as well as being one of the most respected doctors here in Canada

Melissa - posted on 04/29/2009

http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/im/index-eng....

http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/im/vs-sv/fact...

These are great links for vaccination

http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/im/vs-sv/vs-f...

http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/publicat/ccdr...

Vaccine Myths and Why They are Dangerous

May 20, 2005



By Dr. David Butler-Jones



It's hard to imagine what Canada would be like today if not for immunizations.



Hospital wards would remain crammed with young patients with polio, many in iron lungs over most summers. We may not have invented knee or joint replacements because the surgeons are too busy dealing with post polio effects.



Regular epidemics of measles would be leaving behind many deaths, deafness and other problems. Pertussis and haemophilus influenza would regularly cause not only the deaths of young children but leave many with brain damage as well.



There would be regularly large numbers of miscarriages, and many more infants born with birth defects, because their mothers caught rubella (German measles) during pregnancy.



And so the story goes, with a range of childhood diseases we now no longer worry about causing epidemics each year, not in the small bunches we see today, but in the thousands and tens of thousands.



Fortunately that is not the case. Not only have we wiped out smallpox, but we are on the verge of eliminating polio on the planet, not just in Canada.



The recent outbreak of rubella in Southwestern Ontario that has infected over 150 children and at least five pregnant mothers is a taste of what can happen if we are not careful.



Of course, respect for religious beliefs is an essential part of our free and open society. Deeply held, principled convictions can be a real strength for a community.



However, it must be recognized the there are also risks that result, such as preventable disease outbreaks, if vaccines are not taken. More worrisome though is the anti-vaccine views fueled by misinformation, or bad science. This is the “umbrellas cause rain because we see more umbrellas on rainy days” phenomenon.



Seizure disorders, autism, SIDS all show themselves in early childhood. Coincidentally, this is also the period when most immunizations are given. So often, vaccines are connected to an illness only in terms of time. The real issue is not whether problems occur within days or weeks of an immunization, but whether they occur more often after receiving a vaccine.



On this point, study after study has shown that these serious effects occur at the same rate with or without vaccine. However, those not immunized are more likely to get sick or die, or have brain damage, from the infection the vaccine could have prevented.



It must be stated that no medication, procedure, therapy, vaccine or home remedy is completely without risk. The secret is to maximize the benefit, with the least intrusive measure with the fewest side effects. Immunization has been arguably the single most effective, low cost and safe intervention to improve health in the past century.



These are the facts and it is a needless tragedy when a child dies or is crippled for lack of a vaccine. It also is needless when seniors die prematurely in a nursing home because all eligible staff members were not immunized against the flu and some brought it with them to work.



We are fortunate that most children are immunized. If not, the recent outbreak in Ontario that originated in the Netherlands would not be contained within the small unimmunized community, but would spread widely, resulting in thousands of cases, and numerous birth defects and miscarriages.



Perhaps because vaccines have been so successful, many feel they are no longer needed. But these diseases can return if we let down our guard. From 1993 to 1997, there were 5,000 deaths from diphtheria in the former Soviet Union after organized immunization was suspended. In 2003, polio eradication campaigns, which have since resumed, were halted in Nigeria because of false information about oral polio vaccine. Polio has since become re-established in a growing number of countries in sub-Saharan Africa, and has recently spread from Sudan to Yemen and Indonesia. Campaigns against whooping cough vaccine in the United Kingdom, based on false information on the risk of the vaccine, caused immunization rates to fall. This resulted in a return to large scale whooping cough epidemics with far more deaths and brain damage among children than we would want to think of.



False and misleading anti-vaccine claims increase the risk to all children.



Since no vaccine is 100% effective it is essential that all are immunized to gain not only individual benefit but the protection of those around us. Therefore, those who do not immunize not only risk the health of their children, but also those with illnesses or allergy who cannot be immunized, and those who were immunized but did not develop immunity.



The development of vaccines has meant that thankfully most parents in Canada have never seen a child of theirs with a life-threatening case of diphtheria, polio, tetanus, measles or others.



One of a parent’s greatest fears and tragedies is the loss or injury of a child. Immunization has been a key part of changing from a situation where a hundred years ago, one out of every five young children died in Canada, to today where it has fallen to about one in two hundred.



We cannot take such progress for granted.



(Dr. David Butler-Jones is Canada’s Chief Public Health Officer and head of the Public Health Agency of Canada.)



Date Modified: 2005-05-20

Top of Page Important Notices

This link is

http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca//cpho-acsp/ar...



This is great information for anyone who is considering not vaccinating I have posted it for other moms and it really helped them I hope it helps you as well

Mel - posted on 04/29/2009

I do! ive gotten my daughters 2 month, 4 month and 6 month but have decided we prob wont do the 12 month. Just dont see the point in getting this many for a kid so young and after all in the old days they didnt have all these and we are ok. just a personal choice tho. some kids have very bad reactions and even die from these injections others are totally healthy so its really your choice whether you want to risk it.

Jacqueline - posted on 04/29/2009

One good piece of advice that I have learned is that if you do decide to get your children vaccinated you have the right to get the batch number of the vaccine from the doctor, that way is by some chance there is a recall or problem with them vaccines you will know if your child was one who received it. My 18 month old son has not received a single vaccination and has been extremely healthy (minus a few short lived colds). That's not to say I will never have him vaccinated but if I do I've decided to wait until he is a few years older, and I will get a batch number! :)

Tammi - posted on 04/29/2009

I just want to add something I am vaccinating my son with all the vaccines just not by the AAP schedule that all doctors go by.

Vanessa - posted on 04/29/2009

I have a 41/2 month old also and he got the DTAP and Rhtotoc at 4 months of age. I will do the same at the next visit. I agree, he will get his shots but I am spreading them out also. My first son had all those shots at one time and he now has autism. Good luck to you.

Kelly - posted on 04/29/2009

I think you are right to research it. I did myself and learned that I can also request certain ingredients be excluded in vaccines (ie. mercury). I chose to vaccinate my child because after much research online and in the university medical library, I did find that the mortality rate of measles, mumps, rubella is incredibly high for children who are not vaccinated. I also saw a friend at 13 who had red measles and her throat was so swollen she could barely breath for days. It was horrible to see her go through that. She could have died.



I didn't know you could give it to them in different doses so I'd speak to a doctor and/or get a second opinion if you feel you want more information.

Marti - posted on 04/29/2009

There was a show about that on Law and Order last night 4/28/09/ that was good. I also understand your concern, but if they don't have their vaccines and they get sick they could affect other children especially other babies. There is too much out there spreading around not give your child the vaccines they need to stay well.

Stephanie - posted on 04/29/2009

Find a doctor you trust! Talk to them about it. they will help you spread them out while still getting your child what they need.

Jenifer - posted on 04/29/2009

The antigens in vaccines stimulate less than 0.01% of a child's immune system, even in an infant, so while I understand your concern, I don't think you need to worry about overload of the immune system unless your child has an immunodeficiency. Even though there are more vaccines on the schedule than 20 years ago, they have been improved to the point that the total number of antigens in the shots is quite a bit less than what babies were injected with 20 years ago.

Kathi - posted on 04/29/2009

I have held an infant who was near death due to a preventable illness. Both my children (ages 10 and 19 months) have had all of their shots and are beautiful healthy kids. If you are concerned, by all means spread the shots out, but please do have them get all their shots. It's amazing to me... right now the world is in a panic due to swine flu. People are begging the powers that be to come up with a vaccine to protect their children. Yet, we have vaccines available that prevent other horrible diseases and we don't want to immunize our babies out of fear of the unknown. If we stop immunizing our children, we will end up with a generation that will be more succeptable to death from preventable diseases let alone the new ones (such as swine flu) that will crop up.

Lauren - posted on 04/29/2009

I had MAJOR concerns regarding the MMR. Even though there isn't any link to Autism...or so they say, I was very anxious about giving it to my child. After doing my research I came to understand that the CDC recommends that the child have it after their second birthday,but it is usually given on their 12 or 15 month visit. I honestly believe that children need to be vaccinated, because if they contract Measels, Mumps, or Rubella, there is a high mortality rate. I personally could not live with myself if that were to happen. So I vaccinated my child with the MMR AFTER her second birthday.

Amy - posted on 04/29/2009

I wanted to add that I will put off the pox shot until 4/5 because I hope he catches it so he has a FULL natural immunity. :)

Amy - posted on 04/29/2009

yes! I agree with you. Seth (who is now 19months) was fully vax'ed up until 9 months. We did not do HEP B at birth...so he got his last shot at 9 months. He has not had his MMR or his chicken pox (CP) yet and we are delaying it until he is 2 and his immune system is a stronger....just for piece of mind. We are not getting the HEP A at all since its not required, plus I don't see it as a needed vaccine. It is ridiculous for children to receive that many at a time and had I known more at the time we would have stretched them out also. I dont' see anything wrong with it. You may get mixed responses, but your the mama and you should do what you feel is right for you family. Also... you have the right to refuse/delay any vaxs you want, check your state law. :)

Patti - posted on 04/29/2009

Hi Tammy, I'm glad you are doing research on shots. Just know that you have choices. You as the mother have the right to have your children vaccinated or not. I know that each state is different in their requirements, Check for your state what the laws are for vaccinations and exemption from vaccinations. Contrary to popular opinion I have not had my four children vaccinated. I have sisters that have and have not had theirs vaccinated. I have seen the difference (a huge difference) between being healthy and well. I also encourage good eating habits and supplements to strengthen the immune system. Just know that you have choices as the mother. Blessings to you!