Vaginal Smallness.....

K.C. - posted on 01/04/2010 ( 115 moms have responded )

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My 3 yr old complains about her vagina hurting every few weeks, except it has become more often lately with 4 episodes in 2 weeks. When it hurts she screams and cries and will not let me look or put cream on. Sometimes it's so bad she can't sit down. These episodes usually last about an hour. However, I finally took her to the doc today who said her vaginal opening is very small and is sending her to a gyno. Has anyone had a daughter with a small vaginal opening and if so did they experience pain??

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Krista - posted on 01/04/2010

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Actually, I think you SHOULD bring her to a gynecologist, and can't believe that people are telling you not to because she's "too young". If she had problems with her heart, nobody would be saying that she is too young for a cardiologist.

Believe it or not, there is actually such a thing as a pediatric gynecologist -- these are professionals who focus on gynecologic problems in individuals from birth into their late teens. Here is their web site, if you want to contact them to find one near you. http://www.naspag.org/

Gynecologists aren't about sex -- they are about the health of the female reproductive system. Something is obviously wrong here, and if she has a problem with her vagina, then she should be seeing a gynecologist. That is their specialty. It's very possible that your daughter has a labial adhesion, which is surprisingly common in young girls. It's treated simply with applications of an estrogen cream.

Sharon - posted on 01/07/2010

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ROTFL - Every time I think I've never read anything so stupid in all my life, someone on this forum proves me wrong.

Congrats to the OP for following the doctors' advice and taking everything step by step. I got the feeling some of these "pervert" posts were pushing you in your patience level. Congrats on being so genial about it. I wouldn't have been.

AND last but not least ... I hope whatever this is, can be resolved quickly & easily for the comfort of your daughter.

FYI - a gyno is the perfect doctor to see when something is wrong with the vagina. Some how I think your ear nose & throat specialist will give you a look if you bring her to them.

And to those who suggested that gynos are pervs.... I take it that you see female gynos then? Just to let you know that with your reasoning - female gynos must be lesbians because of their unnatural interest in female genitalia and you've probably been violated every time you've had an exam.

have a nice day.

Kelsey - posted on 01/04/2010

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I think the whole "small vagina" thing is really out there. If my doctor said that, I would immediatly get a new doctor! Wow! I guess Its possible, but no. He/shes just sending you to a gyno because they have no idea what to look for, and want to make sure nothing is overlooked in case shes deformed or something, which Im sure she isnt. You just need to go to a doctor that has a clue. I used to complain to my mom when I was 3 about my pee-pee hurting too. She always just put vasaline on it and I felt better. I used to break out when I used cheap bubble bath too, which I think has alot to do with it. Use a fragrance free sensitive soap and lotion, and it should help. I think I just had irritation alot from soaps. Make sure shes wiping the right way though. I wiped backwards for some reason when I was about 5, and I got a UTI (I remember the doctor visit cause I was so upset about a man looking at my vagina). Skip the Gyno, and get a good pediatrician. Im sure its nothing, but get another opinion in case its an infection or something. I think shes probobly just being sensitive, and is overreacting to any amount of discomfort shes feeling. 3 year olds are good at that. Make sure when you talk to her about it you tell her that her vagina is a private part, and she shouldnt let anyone else but mommy see it. I actually remember my mom telling me that at 3 yrs when she was putting vasaline on my "owie". Then you can feel better about her safety, especially since shes been complaining about it, it would just be nice to know she wont be telling some weirdo stranger all about it!

Krista - posted on 01/07/2010

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Quoting Ty:

Krista: Quite frankly, I don't trust Gynecologists. Often times they say something is necessary that is not and may even be intrusive and/or harmful. They don't give you the option of refusing exams. I know a woman who was attacked by a gynecologist (literally forced down onto the table) and then offered 100 dollars for her silence. Not even kidding. And I have to wonder about anyone who gets into the field of pediatric gynecology. Your logic is fine, in regards to seeing a specialist, but many gyno's feel justified in doing tests anyway/experimenting/teaching on non consenting women and doing unnecessary tests that often cause more problems than they solve. In short, I know they're necessary, but only as a last result and only very carefully watched.
If you're asking if I think a gyno is going to rape her daughter, I can say I don't mean that.


And I know a woman who was molested by her orthodontist when she was 12. What the heck does that have to do with the price of tea in China? Perverts come in many flavours.



What do you honestly think could happen here? The kid's three years old -- of course her mother's going to be in the room with her during the exam. That's a given. So why this worry about what the gyno might do? 



And they don't give you the option of refusing exams? Funny...I don't recall ever having a gyno tie me to the stirrups and examining me or "experimenting" without my consent. Can you elaborate on what you mean by that?



And I think that your implications about pediatric gynecology are terrible. These are excellent doctors, many of whom were likely regular gynecologists, but after seeing some of the problems that can befall their younger patients, (and after seeing how little information or resources exist in the field of pediatric gynecology), probably decided to go into the field themselves in order to HELP girls and young women have a healthy, functional reproductive system so that they can possibly be mothers like us. You're implying that all pediatric gynecologists are just interested in looking at little girls' vaginas -- that's a very, very serious charge to be leveling against an entire field of medicine.  



 

Christelle - posted on 01/06/2010

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K.C.- I think it would be a good idea to have a pediatric gynecologist take a look. I know you said that it may not be a UTI, but have you thought about the fact that if she does have a small vaginal opening that bacteria could "hide" in the crevices that she wouldn't be able to wipe away no matter how well she wipes herself? Could you give her showers to cool her down and limit her baths to once a day? It sounds like some sort of irriation to me if it comes and goes. Good luck...

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Lupy - posted on 01/27/2014

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I searched and searched and it is most probably thread worms (also known as pin worms) bc my six year old had been expriencing these sharp pains at night sporadically for over the past few months. her pediatrician had given her nystatin bc she though it was just a simple yeast infection. after several blogs i cam across a lady who said her daughter was having the same symptoms and her Dr. told her to go check her daughters anus at night while she was sleeping bc the female pinworms come out at night to lay their eggs and secrete a itchy mucus like compound at night. I didn't believe she was having these severe pains at first but they progressively got worse and she would wake up screaming and crying that her vagina was hurting... sure enough i went with a flashlight and could not believe my eyes. I saw the worms. it was very gross !!! I hope this helps.... but there is over the counter medicine for pinworms and very easily cured.good luck to all.

TJ - posted on 01/12/2013

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K.C. Chester... what ever happened? What was the result of the tests and exams? I hope all is well.

Janel - posted on 01/19/2010

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My daughter use to have vaginal pain like you are describing. I never heard anything about a small vaginal opening, instead it was a yeast infection from using bubble bath. Her pediatrician told me to stop using bubble bath and strong scented soaps to clean that area. If you are using strong soaps, harsh cleanser to clean your tub, bubble bath STOP using those items before you take her to a gyn. It may just be a yeast infection.

Myrna - posted on 01/19/2010

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I don't know about a gyno....get a second opinion. My daughter used to complain as well when she was very small....it was vaginitis....after bathing have her sit for a while in a warm bath. Use unscented diapers and diaper a bit more loosely than normal or leave her un diapered. I know this might be a bit hard if you are potty training your child at the moment but if it is not anything more serious this can be very soothing and helpful.

Lenore - posted on 01/17/2010

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My daughter had vaginal adhesions when she was a baby. The labia closed up and we had to put some kind of estrogen cream to the area (it's been a long time). So if the labial opening is partially closed up maybe some urine is collecting and causing an infection. I don't think you should worry about taking her to a gyn. Maybe they have gyns that specialize in peds.

Amanda Jo - posted on 01/17/2010

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i dont want to freak u so please dont be offended but maybe sometime when its just you and her and shes not complaining or anything and all is calm you should play with dolls, a boy doll and girl.. ken and barbie come to mind and you can strt by saying oh barbie i love you and then make ken kiss barbie on the cheek and just check things out in that aspect just to make sure nothing freaky is happening(im sure its not but just as an aire of caution) .. im sure your dr is a great dr and if u trust him then great , you should always get a second opinion when it comes to your child and if your dr is a good dr he'll totally encourage u to do so, then u need to go with your instinct and im sure she'll be fine...

Laura - posted on 01/17/2010

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My little girl will be 3 in May-she complains about the same thing all the time.The dr gave her antibiotics and thrush cream.Her urine check came back clear.

I think the problem is to do with her not wiping properly after using the potty.She can get really sore front to back,maybe this could be like your's?

As the other reply states I too have never heard of an opening being too small.Get a second opinion hun,I hope she is ok? xxx

Kristi - posted on 01/16/2010

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My daughter did have this problem and the doctor gave her an estrogen cream because her vaginal opening was closing up. It actually resolved itself after a few months with the help of the cream. I would sit her in a warm bath to relieve the pain & discomfort.

Tash - posted on 01/16/2010

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OMGosh!!! I was completely freaking out because my daughter complains of same pain and every time I check her pink bits they look a little swollen. I was really paranoid and thought some b****d had 'touched' her, so I took her to the doctor. He said that she has a normal little girls vagina and that she had an infection which comes and goes...causing swelling in her groin up her tallulah and under her arms. He showed me where the lumps were.



I was advised to give her plenty of water and bath her instead of shower, because we only have a shower at home I bought a 60L Bin and bathe her in that, I quite often add salt to the water too...

Tash - posted on 01/16/2010

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OMGosh!!! I was completely freaking out because my daughter complains of same pain and every time I check her pink bits they look a little swollen. I was really paranoid and thought some b****d had 'touched' her, so I took her to the doctor. He said that she has a normal little girls vagina and that she had an infection which comes and goes...causing swelling in her groin up her tallulah and under her arms. He showed me where the lumps were.



I was advised to give her plenty of water and bath her instead of shower, because we only have a shower at home I bought a 60L Bin and bathe her in that, I quite often add salt to the water too...

DAWNAMARIE - posted on 01/16/2010

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WOW I'M SO SORRY TO HEAR THAT BUT I NEVER HEARD OF THAT BEFORE.IT'S SO MANY NEW THINGS THAT'S HAPPENING THAT I NEVER HEARD OF WHEN MY KID'S WAS COMING UP.I HOPE YOUR DAUGHTER FEEL BETTER.

Jennifer - posted on 01/15/2010

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I have to agree with taking her to a peds-gyno, that is what they are specializing in! Putting her in water may seem like a great idea, but what if it is the water that is hurting her. There is such a thing called contaminated water, it could be a reaction. Taking her to another doctor is a good idea, how about to the hospital, they have to find out what is wrong with her. Or maybe they can point you in the best direction for your location. Babies come out in many forms and problems just because not many people have heard of a small virgina doesn't mean there isn't such a thing ...think about.... we'd all be doctors. A gyno is there for a girls, ladies, womans...parts not a males so let them help..............

Nicole - posted on 01/11/2010

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If your daughter is prone to infection, you may wish introduce a mild soap (you indicated that soaps are banned in your house) to keep the area clean...and perhaps showers instead of baths. I have allergic skin and natural products are really burn allergic skin; one that was recommended by our doctor for my daughter is Aveeno cream wash...it has worked out well for us as an alternative to soap. Showers may be a better "maintenance" regimen for someone prone to infection. Good luck with solving the bigger mystery here.

Liesl - posted on 01/11/2010

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Oh sweety, what to do? I'd find a child friendly gyno and take her. You stayin the room with them the whole time and if you explain to herwhythe doctor isinvestigating and thatMummy isright with her etc...the situation should not be traumatising. A gyno is a specialist for this condition and can tell you yesor no as to wether there is a concern. This is not about your doctor... this is about peoples ongoing mistrust of gynagology... it's time to get over it folks and consider what is best for the child. We need to strike trust in our children about medical practitioners...not fear. Treat it as normal and it will be normal. Gynocology is under utilised in Australia because of our 'taboo' notion of talking about vaginal problems.

LORRAINE - posted on 01/10/2010

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NEVER HEARD OF THIS BEFORE, IF IT CONTINUES I WOULD TAKE HER TO BOSTON CHILDRENS

Katrina - posted on 01/10/2010

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I think your doc missed the boat and I'm so glad your daughter is getting referred on. Having a small vaginal opening in and of itself should NOT be a source of pain, unless that tissue is being stressed, for example, if she is doing a little self-exploration. But, it seems that the discomfort alone would have discouraged that. Has she been tested for a urinary tract infection? An intermittent UTI could certainly cause that level of discomfort in the pelvic region and I genuinely doubt a 3 year old is going to be able to clearly differentiate the various tissues and organs in the pelvic region and the sensations associated with each. For that matter, how are her bowel movements? easy to pass? hard to pass? If she is constipated (hard to pass BMs), that can actually cause quite a bit of discomfort before or after or both for some folks. I hope I have given you some pause for thought, as well as broadened your focus. Good luck with the GYN visit.

K.C. - posted on 01/10/2010

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Jeanetta, some of my friends did get their periods at 9! They were the kind of girls that were already slightly developed. I think most of the early girls were actually aboriginal..anyway good luck to you and your daughter...

Nicole - posted on 01/09/2010

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You should look for a board certified pediatric gynecologist- they exist for a reason! Just because your daughter is young, has nothing to do with whether or not she needs to see a specialist. It sounds like she may have labial adhesions. My daughter had them as a newborn infant and the pediatrician just had us put a little cream on her labia for a couple of weeks and it returned to normal. Many 3 year olds develop vaginitis - itchy or painful rash, discharge, etc that can become a chronic condition usually caused from soaps/shampoos or not getting clean enough after she uses the bathroom. Here's what my pediatrician said to do: Make sure to help her wipe properly and try giving a bath every single night in just plain water - no soap at all. Do not scrub the vagina - just let water clean it every day. We did this with my 4 year old and her problem cleared right up. When you wash her hair, have her stand up or sit on a little plastic stool in the tub while you rinse her hair with fresh tap water. Make sure her bottom is out of the water so she isn't sitting in the suds. This worked for us. My pedi said if thsis didn't help we should go to a pediatric gyno too. I can't understand why anyone would discourage you from going to see a specialist! There is no harm in taking her to the pediatric gyno - no child should be taught to feel shame about any part of his/her body and I think it is wrong to assume that she will feel embarrassed - if you explain that it is okay for her doctor or her parents to touch her body to take care of her she will understand. My pediatrician always tells my daughter it is okay because he is her doctor, we are in the doctors office and Mommy is right here in the room. Good luck!

Lori - posted on 01/09/2010

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a too small vagina for a 3 year old, I don't know about that. I agree with the lady that suggested the pin worms, it could be an issue. My thought was itching maybe she was scratching or rubbing it due to sweat. My daughter had that problem in the summer at that age and her pre school thought she was touching her self for pleasure. get another opinion from a different pediatrition and wash and dry it well maybe let her go comando for a little bit after bath and going potty...good luck.

Lynn - posted on 01/09/2010

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I agree that the doctor is a quack. you should have the child looked at but not by a gyno it could be something a simple as an infection expecially with a little girl. toilet tissue bubble bath different things can give them infection. but you need to find a reputal doctor to examine her while she is sleeping to see. did they do a urinalysis to rule out infection?

Betty - posted on 01/09/2010

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I would be very careful with what I put in the bath. Many bath soaps, bubbles etc. are very caustic to the tender skin and cause some swelling and give the appearance of a small opening.

Jodee - posted on 01/09/2010

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i HOPE THIS HELPS MY DAUGHTER HAD SAME PROBLEM, THEY ENDED UP HAVING to have a little surgery where they cut it a little and make the opening a little larger. the dr is doing the right thing. my daughter was younger when they found out so it did not effect her like your child.I hope this has helped you. they have a name for it but my daughter is now 15 and I can't rember the name . good luck.

Lynda - posted on 01/09/2010

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please whatever you do follow the doctor orders dont play guessin games in tryin to figure out.. it may be what some consider extreme it's ur child for god sake that's what we parents do we go through the extreme for our children with so much goin on today we all can continue to guess i really suggest u follow doctor orders......

Kerry - posted on 01/09/2010

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From reading further you said you live in australia, get a second opinion and maybe a referral to your peadiatrician. Depending on the area you live in make an appointment with your local child health nurse. Sometimes you know whats best than the local dr for your child. I have switched twice for my kids as I have had moe common sense than what the local GP up the road has. Hope it all works out

Delia - posted on 01/08/2010

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Quoting K.C.:

Hhmmm, so everyone is in agreement that she is too young for a gyno? BeckAmy, she has several baths a day at the moment due to the heat. All except the last bath is just water. In the final bath I only use natural products. Soap is banned in my house. She is toilet trained and is 'free' all night and most of the day when she is home. When she is not in pain I can look down there without any problems and it always looks normal. No redness, no odours or anything. Ty, where do pinworms come from? I live in Australia and not sure if it is that common here. I will certainly ivestigate it though. She doesn't go to kindy and is rarely around other kids. We do have pets though... I'm ruling out a UTI and don't think she has thrush. I know even newborns can get thrush but she doesn't have any symptoms of it. I find it perculiar that the pain lasts for like an hour then everything is back to normal. I can't google small vaginal opening either because all the posts seem to be paedophilia!! As for the Doc, I love him to bits. He has always been great and has diagnosed problems that other drs haven't but I will chat to him about paed v's gyno though. She had a wee test too...have to wait for those results...Thankyou everybody :)


I am a registered nurse. I think going to a gynocologist even as a 3 year old could be warrented. This type of doctor is a specialist in female anatomy and female conditions. Even though your daughter is only 3 she is still female. There are anomolies that the gynocologist would be an expert about that the pediatrician or family physician would not be. Pin worms are in the soil, but are found in and around the rectum. They can be seen at night, the 'mother' comes out to the anus to lay eggs. This paracite can be tranmitted from one child to another especially if they sleep in the same bed.

Jeanetta - posted on 01/08/2010

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Interesting my 9yr old has been saying shes having pains as well but there is no blood or discharge and the doctor said she looks ok and that was it ; so im wondering if this means her period is on its way?

Stephanie - posted on 01/08/2010

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If you do get any good advise please let me know. I live in Brisbane and my daughter has had the same symptoms for some time. I to only use organic product, even just organic foods. We have also changed every product and tried every suggestion (creams and vitamins). The pain comes and goes with no aleviating factors. Sometimes a few drops of urine on her panties but every test in the book, with no infections. I dont know what to do but it breaks my heart when she is crying and I can not do anything to help.

Sara - posted on 01/08/2010

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I think you're doing the right thing taking her to a specialist to get it checked out.

I have to say that I can't believe some of the replies to your question. I'm especially taken aback by people trying to insinuate that pediatric gynocologists are some how preverted...wow.

Good luck, I hope they figure out what is going on and help your daughter to be more comfortable.

Rebekah - posted on 01/08/2010

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Great to hear! Please let us know what you find out. I have never heard of this, nor have I taken the time to research it on the internet, as my little one has been sick. I will be watching for an update, and thank you for sharing your story with all of us!

Krista - posted on 01/08/2010

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Quoting K.C.:

Well we just got back from the doctors. She doesn't have an infection of any kind nor thrush. We have been given a referal to a paed gyno at Princess Margaret Hospital. The Doc suggested her hymen may be too high as well as having the small opening so hopefully the gyno will shed more light on this. I know a lot of you are against taking a 3 year old to a gyno but what other choice do I have? If they specialise in her problem then of course I want them to investigate (nicely of course). I understand that a lot of you have had bad gyno experiences but as a Mum I simply wouldn't let that happen to her. If she is uncomfortable in any way I will stop the gyno. Hopefully they may sedate her if necessary. For those of you who suggested molestation, thank you but that hasn't happened. I do appreciate that thought though as a lot of Mums are naive about that kind of thing. In our case it is just impossible and no I'm not being naive about it. I really do love and trust our family doctor and I am more than happy for him to refer us to a specialist when the occassion arises. I would think considerably less of him if he didn't refer us. So...now it's the waiting game. All in all I still don't know why she gets in so much pain and I dearly want to see her all better again. If anyone may be able to shed more light on this I would welcome it. For those of you who haven't read above: she is not constipated, she doesn't eat much acidic food, she goes nudey bum to bed and spends half the day without knickers on. She has to wear them to go outside though. She always wants a fresh pair of knickers if there is so much as a miniscule drop of wee in them. She wipes front to back and is not rough. She doesn't hold on to do a wee, and wee has nothing to do with her problem as it occurs very haphazzardly. We do not use soap in our house, we use very mild, organic products for cleaning and the tiniest amount is put in her bath. She and us have now been treated for worms just in case. Her labia does not stick together and she doesn't seem too dry down there. Soooooo....any ideas? Has anyone had a high hymen or a small vaginal opening? If so was pain affiliated with it? Has anyone had the symptoms I mentioned above that didn't include an UTI, thrush, abuse or labial adhesion? I'm still very interested in everyone's response... ;)


Good! I'm glad she's going to see a pediatric gynecologist -- I don't doubt that you'll soon get your answers. And I hope you get your appointment very soon, now that you have that referral.  Good luck, and please keep us posted. 

Rebekah - posted on 01/08/2010

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oh...by 'not yet' I simply meant to get a second opinion FIRST. I don't see anything wrong the the gyno...after all, that IS what they specialize in.

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Hi KC, I agree the specialist in the feild is the best option, so good on you for taking the better option, I still wonder if its a sencitivity issue though, I dont not have girls so am unable to say I have personally had a child in my full care with an issue like this, I do have a boy with excema and Psorisis though, and have to be extreemly carefull what products I use, and how often he can bathe. It really is the only thing I can think of, that she may be sencitive in that area, as it would explain the comming and going, the other things I have posted are all precautionary and do not nessessarly relate to her cause. They just help to minimise any other possiblities and help to rule things out. I really hope that your specialist finds the cause and can help your daughter. Till then all the best :D

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Hmmmm ..... I am of the opinion that pediatric gynocology became nesessary, well at first back in the 1800's when we were marrying off our daughters at the ripe old age of 12. Not to mention in todays age of teens and pre-teens having sexual intercourse, let alone becoming pregnant ... Not to mention medicine for abuse victims under the age of 18. I would call pediatric gynocology a MUST HAVE.

Good luck to you K.C., please let us know what the specialist says. Its a crazy feeling when you know something is wrong but can't find what it is.

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K.C i am so glad that the gyno referred her to a paed gyno (didnt know one existed lol) and i'm sorry i cant help you further ....
but i really do hope that your little girl gets better soon, as i am sure it is very painful and uncomfortable for her.

K.C. - posted on 01/08/2010

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Well we just got back from the doctors. She doesn't have an infection of any kind nor thrush. We have been given a referal to a paed gyno at Princess Margaret Hospital. The Doc suggested her hymen may be too high as well as having the small opening so hopefully the gyno will shed more light on this. I know a lot of you are against taking a 3 year old to a gyno but what other choice do I have? If they specialise in her problem then of course I want them to investigate (nicely of course). I understand that a lot of you have had bad gyno experiences but as a Mum I simply wouldn't let that happen to her. If she is uncomfortable in any way I will stop the gyno. Hopefully they may sedate her if necessary. For those of you who suggested molestation, thank you but that hasn't happened. I do appreciate that thought though as a lot of Mums are naive about that kind of thing. In our case it is just impossible and no I'm not being naive about it. I really do love and trust our family doctor and I am more than happy for him to refer us to a specialist when the occassion arises. I would think considerably less of him if he didn't refer us. So...now it's the waiting game. All in all I still don't know why she gets in so much pain and I dearly want to see her all better again. If anyone may be able to shed more light on this I would welcome it. For those of you who haven't read above: she is not constipated, she doesn't eat much acidic food, she goes nudey bum to bed and spends half the day without knickers on. She has to wear them to go outside though. She always wants a fresh pair of knickers if there is so much as a miniscule drop of wee in them. She wipes front to back and is not rough. She doesn't hold on to do a wee, and wee has nothing to do with her problem as it occurs very haphazzardly. We do not use soap in our house, we use very mild, organic products for cleaning and the tiniest amount is put in her bath. She and us have now been treated for worms just in case. Her labia does not stick together and she doesn't seem too dry down there. Soooooo....any ideas? Has anyone had a high hymen or a small vaginal opening? If so was pain affiliated with it? Has anyone had the symptoms I mentioned above that didn't include an UTI, thrush, abuse or labial adhesion? I'm still very interested in everyone's response... ;)

Sophie - posted on 01/07/2010

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Strange how some women feel uncomfortable with a gynecologist, I have to say mine is such a lovely man. I can't recommend highly enough going to see one for your smears, rather than the local nurse at the doctors - a massive difference is what the experience is like. Not a nice thing to have done but so much more 'pleasant' (if it could ever be described as that!!) an experience at the gyno. Plus so much more informative (and clearer test results!).

With this in mind I would have no hesitation in taking my daughter, whatever age, to see him/one. They are trained to specifically know about that area and would've dealt with countless similar cases, unlike a doctor, who may only have read about it in a text book. I'm not putting doctors down, just pointing out the difference between a doctor and a specialist. It's a bit like having a painter and decorator architecturally design and build your house - different skill set.

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Well obviously the doc does know whats wrong thats why hes refering you to gynae!! If it were my daughter i would take her. Prevention is better. You dont want her in pain and there obviously is a problem even if its not a small opening. Anyone can see trush so i highly doubt if a doc can miss something so common and simple. take her to the gynae. It will be way less traumatic now than when shes 13 and has a real problem.

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I agree with Krista hat you should take her to a Gynocologist. First, just because you take her to a gyno, doesn't mean they will necessarily do a full exam with the speculum, which I assume is the "experience" everyone is referring to scarring her emotionally. Seek a specialist. Also, I would be concerned about whether she's been alone with anyone new around these times. The unthinkable may only come to mind from personal childhood experiences, but not all people are concerned with keeping 3 year olds innocent. I also agree with most everyone that you might want to consider a new pediatritician. It sounds like he/she has no idea why your daughter is in pain and rather than say that they made something up. I don't want a doctor that can't admit they don't know everything.

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wow I have never heard of that before and I am over 50. Poor little one I hope the doc can help her.Sorry I am not much help.You have the right to a second opion.

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it sounds as if it could be thrush .. please see a different pediatrician before taking a 3 year old to a GYN .. a pediatrician should be able to handle this ...

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I have a 6 year old granddaughter that has about the same problem. She has reacuring UTI. there are times she complains about pain when she goes to the bathroom, her mother or I take her to the Dr. When they check her urine, it has traces of blood in it, but no infection. We have taught her how to wipe, bath, etc. This has been going on ever since she learned to talk. I hope you find out what is causing your childs discomfort.

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Oh, and just a little social experiment. If the OP's kid was a boy, and had excruciating pain in his penis, and was referred to a urologist, would anybody here be saying that the child was too young for that?

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could be irritation .. for example if she eats fruit .... her urine would have fruit acids in it ...
yeah examine her while shes asleep, and tell your doctor he's an idiot, i'd go and get another baby doctor just for that dumb response! and a woman doctor at that who understands more about girl parts because she has one.
it might be thrush too from left over poo or runs just not being cleaned properly etc .... i know i have a little one year old girl and she had irritation down there too but i put either a&D cream on her just not in her obviously or nappy rash ...... it seems to help.

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Krista: Quite frankly, I don't trust Gynecologists. Often times they say something is necessary that is not and may even be intrusive and/or harmful. They don't give you the option of refusing exams. I know a woman who was attacked by a gynecologist (literally forced down onto the table) and then offered 100 dollars for her silence. Not even kidding. And I have to wonder about anyone who gets into the field of pediatric gynecology. Your logic is fine, in regards to seeing a specialist, but many gyno's feel justified in doing tests anyway/experimenting/teaching on non consenting women and doing unnecessary tests that often cause more problems than they solve. In short, I know they're necessary, but only as a last result and only very carefully watched.
If you're asking if I think a gyno is going to rape her daughter, I can say I don't mean that.

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Same question here Krista, why wouldn't one take their child to a specialist. One that specializes in the exact field their child is having a problem in. Take your doctors advice, the doctor that you "love to bits" if they have done good by you up to this point, I would think that he/she still has your familys best interests in mind. A pediatric gynocologist will know the exact procedures to follow, and tests to run.

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You said that your daughter has several water baths a day. Even being in a warm water bath can cause drying and infection. Especially if your tub isn't really clean or if you are using any kind of chemical cleaner on your tub. All sorts of wierd germs cling to tub surfaces. You should scrub your bath tub with a non-chemical cleaner (like anti-bacterial soap) and water then rinse really well prior to bathing you daughter.

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Quoting Rebekah:

I stopped reading comments after I got to yours about letting her run around natural. I was thinking maybe the type of soap you used, or even if she was in the water too long. That happened to my niece. But if she is running 'free' all day, there are things that could irritate her also. Definitely agree with everyone who says take her to get a second op, but not a gyno. Not yet.


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I'm genuinely curious. I've seen multiple women on here basically saying that this girl is "too young" for a gynecologist, and I'm really perplexed. Can someone please explain to me why they feel that way?

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Even if you use natural bathing products, I meant to add. Sorry. My first time posting.

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I stopped reading comments after I got to yours about letting her run around natural. I was thinking maybe the type of soap you used, or even if she was in the water too long. That happened to my niece. But if she is running 'free' all day, there are things that could irritate her also. Definitely agree with everyone who says take her to get a second op, but not a gyno. Not yet.

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