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Julia - posted on 04/02/2013

There was another post that I really wanted to comment on by Victoria but it was closed. I'm intrigued by these threads about tattoos. I'm a career counselor and on the issue of discrimination tattoos are not protected by discrimination laws. Here is how you need to think about it. What is covered by law are things you don't have control over (your race, color, disability and religion). If you control it or did it to yourself (tattoos, crazy hair colors) it is not protected by law. The bottom line is that society has certain norms and choosing to live outside of those norms makes a statement to others about not only your choice to have body art or not have body art but your ability to fit in and adhere to social expectations and standards. In many jobs in the business/service sector this is an important part for your job. This doesn't mean that you can't choose to have tattoos but it does mean you should be able to cover them if you are going into a situation where the tattoos would be a problem. Now maybe that great surgeon is great because he's a rebel who knows but if you reject social norms and are in your face about doing it you better be that guy that is so good no one can do what you can do. But the reality is most people are average (in fact that is the definition of average) so if you choose not to adhere to the social norms you live with the consequences. This might not be fair but it is the reality of being an adult. I don't have a problem with tattoos in and of themselves but you should be able to cover them for a job interview and on the job if required and if you are in a job where you are in the capacity of a role model to other people's children you should respect that some people have strong beliefs about tattoos from a religious and/or social stand point and you should be respectful of that. I was rather taken aback when my niece told me her teacher had showed the class her tattoo that was on her shoulder. Had it been my own child I would have called the school and asked the principle why the teacher was taking time away from math to show off a tattoo that for all intents was on a part if her body that should be covered when she is in the class room.

Opal - posted on 12/13/2009

Having a child that is extremely medically fragile, I have to say that it doesn't matter one bit. Brilliant surgeons usually have some personality quirks - there is a pulmonologist who regularly curses at his staff but has literally saved kids that others said had no chance at survival. When your child's life is at stake you think differently about what is really important. This is coming from someone who has had to restrain their child during a spinal tap, watch him being intubated during a horrendous seizure, and sent him off to surgery more times than I can count.

Sheri - posted on 12/12/2009

Not for THAT reason...I would surely get a second opinion from ANY doctor who claims surgery is the ONLY intervention to save a life...I much prefer non Western approaches to medicine and do not always agree with hacking away at the body- certain defects normally require surgery i.e., heart malformation, cleft palate , but surgeons will eagerly yank out a uterus, for example, and that may not be the best option -

Victoria - posted on 12/10/2009

This isn't a religious discussion so I'm going to just sit back and see if we can get this topic back on track.

Victoria - posted on 12/10/2009

Quoting Laura:

Quoting Victoria:

Quoting Victoria:

And also, I post these threads on tattoos in hopes that people might open their mind up and think a little more openly. Our outside in NO way determines the truth that lies inside. And my truth is a beautiful truth. Sorry if you think it's cheesie.

And I feel my tattoos are just a small insight on the beauty that lies within.

Tattoos say EVERYTHING about what's on the inside (including nothing)...What you choose to put on your body FOREVER...says something truly insightful about what is inside of you.  and if you choose to put it on a place that can never be hidden...that says something too

Once again, my tattoos are just a SMALL insight on the beauty that lies within me. My body is not big enough to show all of my beauty in tattoos! ;o)

Sharon - posted on 12/09/2009

Quoting Diane:

God created each of us different and a master piece...tats are kind of graffiti on his art work.....

I'm relatively certain Satan doesn't give a chit. 

Isobel - posted on 12/09/2009

But a sleeve can still be covered IF you choose to do so...That's exactly my point...The face, neck and hands...they're different

Charlie - posted on 12/09/2009

I have to say Laura that as a person who has visible tattoos , my tattoos are for me and no one else ive never had a problem with it work wise ( im a teacher ) or have had a problem with any of the parents at my school for that matter .
I am proud of my tattoos and your right they do mean something , they are ( literally for some ) wearing your heart on your sleeve .

My next tattoo is a quarter sleeve , very visible , its a deeply personal tattoo design why i choose it there is because of its story i will wear it with pride , forever , i dont care what other people think of my tattoos , ive always been of the opinion that if people are shallow and judgmental enough to not like me because of my tattoos than im glad i have them to weed out those people , they are certainly not traits i like in friends or employers .

Don't take that in a bad way or personally its just an explanation on how i feel about tattoos :)

Isobel - posted on 12/09/2009

Quoting Victoria:

Quoting Victoria:

And also, I post these threads on tattoos in hopes that people might open their mind up and think a little more openly. Our outside in NO way determines the truth that lies inside. And my truth is a beautiful truth. Sorry if you think it's cheesie.

And I feel my tattoos are just a small insight on the beauty that lies within.

Tattoos say EVERYTHING about what's on the inside (including nothing)...What you choose to put on your body FOREVER...says something truly insightful about what is inside of you.  and if you choose to put it on a place that can never be hidden...that says something too

Charlie - posted on 12/09/2009

i could open up a can of worms on that comment but probably shouldn't all i would say is by that logic we shouldn't interfere with the natural body AT ALL including all the things Krista mentioned .

Krista - posted on 12/09/2009

And how does EVERY conversation turn into a religious debate?

Krista - posted on 12/09/2009

Quoting Diane:

God created each of us different and a master piece...tats are kind of graffiti on his art work.....

So....colouring our hair is grafitti?  Piercing our ears? Women having tummy tucks because of the stomachs they get after we birth another masterpiece? 

Would you also say that children born with growths that have them removed are "grafitti'ing" his art work?

Diane - posted on 12/09/2009

God created each of us different and a master piece...tats are kind of graffiti on his art work.....

Victoria - posted on 12/09/2009

Quoting Victoria:

And also, I post these threads on tattoos in hopes that people might open their mind up and think a little more openly. Our outside in NO way determines the truth that lies inside. And my truth is a beautiful truth. Sorry if you think it's cheesie.

And I feel my tattoos are just a small insight on the beauty that lies within.

Victoria - posted on 12/09/2009

And also, I post these threads on tattoos in hopes that people might open their mind up and think a little more openly. Our outside in NO way determines the truth that lies inside. And my truth is a beautiful truth. Sorry if you think it's cheesie.

Victoria - posted on 12/09/2009

Quoting Loureen:

Thats the point i guess , what difference does it make to any profession if they can do their job and do it well !

I love tatts so it wouldn't matter if he was saving my child's life or putting a bandaid on his knee .

That is exactly the point I am trying to make. Hope no one gets offended. Read my other thread "Should tattooes determine whether you get the job or not?" And you will understand why I posted this question.

Krista - posted on 12/09/2009

I think you're trying WAY too hard to be philosophical.........

Isobel - posted on 12/09/2009

I knew a guy once who told me he would turn it down if the doctor was black...but I suppose that's a different thread.

Renae - posted on 12/08/2009

I think it poor taste on the doctor's part. I wouldn't hire a receptionist covered in tattoos and I think a doctor should know better. But there are many people who will think I'm being old fashioned and ignorant. Maybe the doctor is one of those people. It doesn't mean he's not good. Infact, maybe it means he is the best doc in the world to be able to get away with looking like that! Treat him like any other doctor operating on your child, check credentials thoroughly, see what other doctors think of him, check out his experience and past surgeries. Ignore the tats.

Sharon - posted on 12/08/2009

LMAO - if the sugeon had been judged "the best" where is the choice?



If a dog, walking on two legs, came up to me and said "lick my balls and live forever..." would I do it?



What is your question about really?

Iysha - posted on 12/08/2009

If he was the BEST, I could care less if he was one armed....let alone if he was covered in tattoos =]

Lindsay - posted on 12/08/2009

Umm no. The two have nothing to do with each other. It's irrelevant and ignorant...

Charlie - posted on 12/08/2009

Thats the point i guess , what difference does it make to any profession if they can do their job and do it well !

I love tatts so it wouldn't matter if he was saving my child's life or putting a bandaid on his knee .

Erin - posted on 12/08/2009

no

Angie - posted on 12/08/2009

What difference does it make if the doctor has tattoos as long as he can save your child's life???