would you still use a crib if it may not be safe?

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My family thinks I'm crazy because I want to buy two new fixed side cribs for my kids... My oldest is 15 months and I am expecting another one in January. My 15 month old hates the toddler bed we tried but he goes to sleep without crying every night at 8 in his crib so rather than ruin a good thing we decided it may be easier to keep him in the crib after the new baby arrives. Anyways the issue is his current crib is 13 yrs old and has never been recalled but is a double drop side. Recently all drop side cribs have been banned in the U.S. also I just found out it isn't recommended to use any crib that is more than 10 yrs old. It seemed reasonable to me and my husband to buy him a new fixed side that can be converted into a toddler bed later because of this. Of course regardless I will have to buy at least one for the new baby. So would you do the same thing or continue to use the older double drop side crib?



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I am sure I'll get a lot of backfire from this, but..... I used the crib that I used as a baby, for all three of my girls. It was over 30 years old, and made of wood. It had one drop side. The bars were wider than what is legal now, but all three of my babies did great. I had the crib in our room till they were able to crawl, and sometimes longer than that. It worked good. I couldn't afford a new crib, and my mom had used this for her children and grandchildren. Do what you think is best.

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JoJo - posted on 07/20/2012

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i would get a new crib if iwas u if u budget is tight u can get cribs 99 bucks at walmart that change into a todler bed soot it safer for baby

Stifler's - posted on 07/17/2012

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LOL. The only cots you can buy in Aus are drop side and none of them have plastic caster things, they're all metal and I've never heard anything about them being unsafe. Everyone I know has one, I fail to see how they're unsafe.

Robert - posted on 07/17/2012

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I think you are crazy. First I think you are crazy if you have purchased one of those made in china cribs held together with a couple of pieces of plastic they are absolute garbage. Second if you didn't purchase one of those but a good dropside crib like the Bassett I bought for my kids then you would be crazy to get rid of it. The bassett I have is thirty-six years old and is in perfect condition, it passes all of the safety test and no matter what you do to it, it will not seperate and allow a child's head to become stuck between the end and the drop rail; one of the reason is because it is made with metal supports and metal guide rails and it is impossible to seperate the pieces unless your child has a screwdriver. When I have grandchildren I will use it for them. One thing though I will buy a new mattress since I tossed the old one thirty years ago.

The biggest problem with people today is that they can not think for themselves and are germaphobes, and many other types of ...aphobes.

Lastly, if you think your child's crib is unsafe then do what you think is best for your child and quit worrying what other people think!!!

Lorrie - posted on 11/05/2010

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Absolutely not! There is strong research that dropsides just aren't safe. There is a very good article on one of my favorite baby boutique sites that address this, http://www.holdmybaby.com/crib-and-sleep... Check out the crib recall section while your at the site, they are all about drop side cribs. Take the written proof to your family. It might be enough to convense them. But, stick to your guns. Your child's safety comes first!

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Does your family have an issue with the money being spent? You can probably find two, very safe, slightly used cribs. Do you have consignment stores near you? Try e-bay. A friend found a fixed side 2 year old crib at a garage sale. Keep your eye out for good deals.

Cara - posted on 11/03/2010

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Just for those that are confused or haven't heard, drop side cribs have been banned, and are actually no longer in production by ANY crib manufacturer. So, in a sense, they are all considered recalled regardless of brand, year, etc...In fact, they are no longer sold in stores, unless potentially at a consignment type shop. It isn't a mild safety issue, it is a large one, and not one I would take lightly. If you sat down with one of the families whose baby died due to failure of the drop side mechanism, it would be an easy decision for sure. We all as mothers think we are doing everything we can to keep our babies safe, and think we are checking etc..to make sure everything is still working properly, but a lot of times these drop side mechanisms failed in the middle of the night, and unless your child never moves, jumps, or crawls around in the crib checking the screws does not ensure safety. I wish you all good luck with your choices, but IMHO I wouldn't recommend anything other then a fully stationary crib. There is no price too high for peace of mind in my opinion. Anyway, good luck!!

Laura - posted on 10/29/2010

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Ask my husband about kids beds and he will tell you all the times I replaced crib for daybed, daybed for bunk beds and so on and so on. I would not continue to use the older one. Beds can be replaced, children can't.

Suzanne - posted on 10/29/2010

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i was always told if you can make a fist have your palm facing down and try to push it through the bars if it fits through get rid of it because a child could get stuck in it

Nickie - posted on 10/29/2010

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drop side cribs are safe if they are no more then 6 years old well thats with any crib if they are more then 6 years old they are condiser unsafe but it is up to you but if it were me i wouldnt use the older drop side crib and as for the you 15 months old well it might be safer if he is put in to a toddler bed it is way safer for him if he fall out of the crib it mighten be so nice you can buy toddler beds that have the rails all aournd the bed not just half way around the bed but yep good luck with what ever you decide

Nadine - posted on 10/28/2010

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I stopped using the crib at 11 months and put my son in a play pen with a mattress because he would stand in it and drop down in it and hit his head on the would. From my experience it seems that cribs are not safe period.

Krista - posted on 10/28/2010

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Just find a newer, used crib. You don't necessarily have to go out and buy him a top of the line crib. Especially when he probably won't be using it for much longer. If you're worried about the side dropping down, your husband could always nail the rails into place.

Katherine - posted on 10/28/2010

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I'm with you! If I ever found out that something I was using for my kids, especially something that is supposed to keep them safe, had been banned or considered unsafe it would be gone so fast that we wouldn't even have time to think. This is your child. Even more so as they get older then they will start putting weight on the railings and trying to climb out.
Oh and one suggestion on getting your child to sleep in a toddler bed- don't move him until he's at least two and after the baby comes. A baby can sleep in a bassinett or pack 'n play until they are 25 months in your room. When it comes time to transfer to a toddler bed. Have child and daddy (or mommy) have a "sleep over" with parent on the floor and child in the bed. It worked like a charm for us! Then after about a week we put the baby into the crib. We had no jelousy issues and everyone kept sleeping great. (Better actually). Hope this helps. Good luck!

Deb - posted on 10/27/2010

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Hi,
I coslept with my babies until they were 4 months old or so. Then I have a crib/toddler bed conversion style that broke 13 years old when my husband sat down hard on it. We patched it up as a bed, but then when baby 2 came along 5 years later we bolted the crib together without the base and I just put the mattress on floor inside. I can crawl in with the baby at night for night time feedings. and I know he is super safe.

Alison - posted on 10/27/2010

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Personally, I would try to manage with one crib between the two of them. Your newborn will be good in a bassinette for the first few months and your toddler will be a completely different person by then. 15 months is really quite young for a toddler bed. 18 months however, could be quite different. (although I prefer to use the crib until 2 years.)



But ultimately, it is none of your family's business what you choose to buy for your children (assuming that they are not paying for it - which would be a whole different story).

Ashley - posted on 10/27/2010

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I would if it can be turned into a toddler bed after then your not wasting your money and the new baby needs a crib to so if you have the money and thats what you want to do to keep your kids safe why not!

Julie - posted on 10/27/2010

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It's only unsafe because of the drop side(s). If you can make the crib more structurally sound, none of those scenarios in the article will ever happen. I used a drop-side until a few months ago with a crib tent. That did 2 things -- 1. crib rails HAD to stay up 2. my son couldn't even get a leg or arm between the rails. My crib had been recalled, and I got the "recall kit" which just consisted of a few pegs that made it impossible to drip the rail too far and create that hazardous situation.

Anyhow, I just kept using it, only keeping it safe. Would I use it again? Sure. If I didn't have the crib tent, I'd probably try to permanently fix the rails up with screws or some other modification to ensure they stayed up and secure (of course, watching for points or other dangers).

Shannon - posted on 10/26/2010

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I agree to do what you feel is right, and safe for your little one. Also, I believe the main reason you don't want a crib more than 10 years old is the spacing in the crib bars may be big enough to injure your infants neck in some models... because there weren't any rules for it back then, I would check to see if their isn't more than one reason to get a new one if I were you :)

Megan - posted on 10/26/2010

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If your going to loose sleep over it, go ahead and get a couple new ones. Personally my experience was that my son had issues with getting his feet stuck between the slats of the crib we had (which was up to safety standards at the time) while my parents had about a 10 year old hand me down that he never got stuck in. Since he was a bigger baby there was no way he was getting his head through the slats to strangle himself and so that not getting stuck was worth a lot to me. I am beginning to wonder when we are going to be buying boxes to put our children in because its "safer."

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We got him a little tikes racecar bed. It is the cutest thing ever he just isn't ready we gave it to a friend who is transitioning her 3 yr old. With the convertable crib we can wait until he is ready I don't wanna push him at least I will have one out of two sleeping thru the night lol.

YES THERE IS A VOLUNTARY BAN
try finding a drop-side crib for sale at a store in the U.S. this is a paragraph from the link I provided
"CPSC Chairman Inez Tenenbaum has committed to parents and caregivers that there will be a new and vastly improved mandatory federal standard for cribs this year. The standard will incorporate, at minimum, the new voluntary standard banning drop-side cribs from the United States market. Due to the new voluntary industry standard, many manufacturers have already stopped selling drop-side cribs or will do so beginning June 1, 2010."

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I would buy two new ones. Or, for your 15 month old, have you looked at the cool toddler beds they sell at Wal Mart and Target? I've even been looking on ebay. My son is 3 and hates his toddler bed, which is why I'm looking. I'm just wondering if your son has a favorite (like Thomas, Cars, Spiderman, etc). There are all kinds of cool toddler beds out there and some really reasonably priced ones on ebay. If that's not an option for you though, I would definitely get two new cribs. I'm glad you posted that link. I knew some cribs (including my son's) had been recalled (after we had taken off the drop side) but I didn't know it went that far. Thanks for the info :)

Heather - posted on 10/26/2010

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Drop side cribs haven't been banned in the U.S.. If they're put together and maintained properly they are just as safe as a fixed side crib. I have a drop side that hasn't been recalled. I've never had a problem with it. If you feel uncomfortable with the drop side and can afford it, get a fixed side crib, especially if the one you have is very old. Make the best decision for your family and don't worry about what anyone else says.

Krista - posted on 10/26/2010

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We did the same thing. We had a Storkcraft drop-side crib, and it got recalled. And even with the conversion kit, I still just didn't feel good having my little guy in there, so we said "heck with it" and bought a new crib that can convert into a toddler bed/daybed/headboard.

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We are going to buy our oldest a new convertable crib now. When we get our tax return we will buy another for the new baby. I just checking to see if other mom's thought I was being over protective or not. Knowing there is a possibilty my son's crib isn't safe anymore just makes me worry. I feel ok letting him sleep in it till we get the new one though. If I kept using it long term and he did get hurt I would feel responsible because I could have prevented it.



THERESA- If you ever decided you were no longer comfortable using your drop side crib most manufacturers are offering free kits that convert them into a fixed side crib. Contact the maker of your crib to see if you can get one :) only for cribs made between 2000-2009. I would get one but my crib is too old.

Theresa - posted on 10/26/2010

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I hadn't heard that drop side cribs were banned in the US. But to answer your question. Do what you think is best. If you can afford 2 new cribs go for it. For the older boy you can get the kind that are 3 in 1; crib, toddler bed and full size bed frame. I have a drop sid crib for my 7 month old. It's about 5 years old. I am still using it. It has not been recalled and I check it regularly to make sure there are no loose parts. I'm comfortable continuing using it. If you're not, then don't. Don't let anyone else sway your opinion. Your reletives don't have to know that you're buying him a new one, just go out and do it. The other thing you could do is just buy one for now. Switch your oldest into it. Also set the toddler bed up in his room so he gets used to it. The baby can sleep in a bassinet for the first few months. If your son hasn't switched to the toddler bed by then, you can go get another crib at that time. That's how we switched our daughter who is 18 months older than our son. She started by just playing in the toddler bed, then wanted it for naps, then at nights too. Sometimes she's want the crib, soetimes the toddler bed. We let her move at her own pace. She was fully in it before our son had out grown the bassinet.

Kate CP - posted on 10/26/2010

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Tell your family to stuff it! :P It's safer to get a fixed side crib and wouldn't they feel like crap if one of your kids got hurt because of the drop side cribs?

Morgan - posted on 10/26/2010

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I would never put my daughter (9 months) in a drop side crib........but thats just me :)
good luck

Sara - posted on 10/26/2010

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I'd totally get rid of the crib and get a new one. I think you're completely right.

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