Childcare centers

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I had an idea that perhaps folks would like to do that really does not exist in the world as yet but I think would be a good safe childcare facility. A 24 hour family care center that has a real home setting with a mix of childcare workers older kids, parents, elderly people and cats and dogs as like a home setting with plenty of rooms and kids and game rooms and a yard. Private homes and families could start "safe" childcare facilities. a step up from dropping your child off at a daycare that was like school. Instead of having just a few people overlooking a group of kids make it like a real home setting

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Angel - posted on 01/15/2013

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I am guessing this one can be closed because Mary's profile isn't even active (linkable) anymore

B - posted on 01/01/2013

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Why did this end up in my e-mail? Seriously, you don't think we work hard enough trying to find the perfect care setting for our children's individual needs? You feel the need to generalize and honestly sound extremely paranoid? And you'd rather have me trust a whole house-full of people, animals, and older children who have little interest in my child when I had a hard enough time trusting ONE person whom I have known since we were five years old just because she was watching MY baby? Um, no.

Michelle - posted on 12/25/2012

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Why are you on such a rant?

Where I live there are such things as community daycare that is smaller and in someones home but I don't use them. My daycare has a maximum of 38 children in total (the WHOLE centre). The daycare I have been using for the last 11 years (with all 3 of my children) isn't what you are describing at all.

How about you stop lumping all daycares together and find yourself a decent one? They are out there if you're willing to make the effort and do some research.

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Melissa - posted on 01/21/2013

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My daughter goes to an Awesome daycare centre. I get regular texts throughout the day, portfolios showing her development, and when I drop her off I kno that the teachers that they have will look after her like there own. Their are some really good daycare facilities out there, not all are as you have described, maybe do a bit of research spend some time at your local ones and see what is actually out there. You may be pleasantly surprised.:)

Lakota - posted on 01/08/2013

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I have an idea for you Mary. Instead of opening up a day care with the ideas that you stated, how about you open up a "How To Be A Real Man Institute". That way, men who leave their children and their mothers and make these mothers single mothers in the first place can learn the outcome of their choices. That is after all, the main reason so many single mothers are hurting financially. The single moms you are referring to and the ones in the future can have choices like maybe being able to stay home with their kids for the first few years, or having the financial means to have their kids attend a day care center that can offer more for their children instead of the cheaper ones some moms have to use. Single mothers do the best they can with the circumstances forced on them. The ideas that you have are really great, but, let's be realistic. For a center like that, it will still be financially out of reach for most of the single mothers.

By the way, I am a single mother. My two boys went to a day care that I could afford. They are now 13 and 16 and on the honor roll, taking advanced classes, participates in athletics, and are very kind young men.

"Educating lesser intelligent people is not a very wise thing." You posted that. I have to say that after reading your posts, your grammer, spelling, etc. - this could be you.

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I think people have gone to complete ignorance over formal education beginning at birth. Give everyone a break. Children need to learn things about the world around them first. . The need for children to be pre educated to get into kindergarten is nuts. These days everyone is required to get a college education. Educating lesser intelligent people is not a very wise thing. A person who does not have an IQ over a certain point should not even be accepted in college or even to take an entrance exam. What about raising ditch diggers, lumberjacks, auto mechanics and fisherman , fur trappers and factory workers who are happy with their job. NO one is going to be happy with their job if they are over educated and want better for themselves so a country of all chiefs and no Indians wont work will it.

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how many mothers like dropping their kids off at day care and how many mothers would feel better if their day care center was a bit warmer and less like a school room. story time and private areas where their kids could sleep and have a few toys perhaps toys from home a lamp a mat in their own little room . a good lunch shared with other kids and a playtime with other kids and more day care workers. Also what about a volunteer program where single moms who become unemployed volunteer to work at a daycare center where both they and their child could get a proper place to be.

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in other words its like a photograph you don't want to put a half developed photograph into a magazine or a frame . you don't want to educate a half developed mind.

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a small child alone in their room which is where most small children live in their room having time to learn to do things on their own is how most humans start and teaching them is good and what mothers are for initially. but sending them to school too early is not good . They need time to discover the sun, the curtain, look around them and devise their likes and dislikes if they like corn or if they like peas or if they like dogs or birds and they hear noises and teach themselves by association what the noises are . people instinctively learn these things so you need to let instinct and natural understanding set in before you educate them. they have to learn all of the things they need to know before can be taught by teachers formal schooling. If you stop them from learning to the capacity of learning all of the things a small child learns at that age then you rob them and they only get half the process if you send them to school too early.

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im not ranting im just saying that early childhood development is more important to a person than most people think. the mindset of society is pushing education to an unhealthy degree. we have millions of over educated for their job people working for minimum wage whose parents paid big money to send them to college. people who think that toddlers need to be sent to school before they even know where their own feet are. and no I know not everyone who goes to daycare becomes a serial killer that was a pun or becomes a bad person I don't think anyone becomes a bad person for going to daycare but I do know that life in modern times is not easy and millions of people are doing well and good and are happy with the way things are. I think things could be better to lessen hardships .. We can take measures to lessen the hard times and develop a less stressful situation for all. Every divorced single mom I know faces the same problems and if you think not then you are lying not to me but to yourself

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I have grasped what you all have said but Im not speaking on a personal level really and I do share give any and all ideas that may or may not be beneficial .. right or wrong I think im more than right and kids under 5 are . it is written in every biology book and psychological analysis that the mind of a person 0-5 is in its first developmental stages and the way is wrong to try to teach them too early.

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you can teach a chimpanzee to talk if you have the time but I want my kids to be first loved , I want them to first discover themselves before they discover others and let their mind develop properly and not skip or rush them into things .. perhaps you want your kids to learn too fast .the truth is they all learn at their own rate and mature at their own rate and the rest is not really up to anyone but the individual... thanks for the debate and much grace and life to you ..

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kids 3 or 4 can learn a lot but you cant rob them of self discovery people 90 and 95 can learn a lot too but they don't need a college degree while headed for the great beyond

Angel - posted on 01/07/2013

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Well good luck in trying to do this, but you seem to not grasp what I or others have said so again good luck but I am finished with this conversation. For the record, I completely disagree- I feel children as young as 3 or 4 can learn a lot. Also, state (depending on which state) law requires that children know a certain curriculum before they enter kindergarten. If you deny them that by not teaching them and letting them just feel safe (not that isn't important) they won't be able to go to kindergarten.

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unfortunately the days of leave it to beaver is not going to return anytime soon so we need to use our brains and come up with something to help us deal with modern times and provide parents and children ease of stress and a sense of trust and loving environs . the fright of leaving your child in a childcare center is perhaps a personal problem and they are safe there . I as a mother had to work and leave my child there too and it was hard . that is perhaps just motherhood. Then perhaps we need to nullify the thought that leaving your child is wrong and leaving your child is not okay .. instilled thoughts from traditional motherhood . does it not exist in all or is it just me.

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My kid like all kids thought I was a great mother. I loved my mom too despite hardships but there is no reason why necessary things cannot manifest into the world .. We here in modern times we want and love to be single mothers independence but modern times needs to provide for the children so that they get equal care to a time when family life was all there was.

Angel - posted on 01/07/2013

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And to be fair if this is something you want to do I say go for it, but if you want people to take you seriously, then offer some facts or statistics to back up what you are claiming, instead of just ranting it over and over again.

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I don't think that all kids become serial killers who go to daycare but the lack of a feeling of safety proper rest and detachment from a mother at an early age does effect a persons thinking . may not make them become serial killers literally but they do have a sense of being to go out and seek to find a self they have never had the chance to know .. early schooling robs a person of knowing their individual self why they don't have the time to think of anything but what they are being told and what they are schooled to do . school is a place after self discovery where you learn to discover others .. robbed of your initial self discovery is causing a lack of confidence or something detrimental to human development. Maybe these tiny ones are raring to go these days and don't want to sleep in a quiet place safe and comfortable but Im not there so I cant speak for them . Im not a small child but I do know from my own self that I learned who I was before the age of 4. If I had been in school then I would not have a clue as to who the person I was was.

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It is what it Is like the great mother IsIs meaning is what it is where the world "is" came from. it is not ice iss it is ... iz iz . This is it because it is what it is...

Angel - posted on 01/07/2013

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no but you are demeaning what there already is. You have said have said that kids who go to daycare end up serial killers, then when called out on it you backtracked.

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I m trying, My two dreams are to get a place to help single mothers and their children who are in need, In lacking funds as many people are and support. I know things are how they are time changes things for the better and just introducing people to new perhaps not better ideas but ideas Im not trying to demean what there is what is , is all there is at present, but knowing where improvements can be made should be helpful not harmful im not trying to criticize but if people do hate and fear to leave their children places and they do then perhaps we can make a difference by making way for better safer more trusting situations for mothers and children. are helpful. me I have no funds and it is not my occupation.

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I was thinking that perhaps a franchise childcare supported by big business in each area that was 24 hours and had individual rooms and places for kids to be private sleep and peaceful that would help insure the feeling of safety comfort and the need to let the growth of the individual tiny mind to develop its own thoughts of self and get to know themselves . People don't think children need to learn who they are that comes from thoughts and dreams . All people need this to develop into the person they are and to become that person. If a small child is robbed of peace time and dreamtime to get to know themselves which does happen at the beginning of a life not the end or middle . preschool age is when a person is learning about themselves . school age is when they learn to associate with others. Very important is perhaps having little nap rooms for individual children or little kiosks where they have sleepy time and a lot of time to play and sleep alone. then for playtime let them play with five other kids rather than having large groups. Large groups rob them of learning individual thought.

GERRILYN - posted on 01/06/2013

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Hey if such a place existed and my child was safe from any and all dangers I'd do it in a heartbeat!

Angel - posted on 01/03/2013

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omg Mary you need help. Who is to say that just because our kids go to daycare that they aren't loved or nurtured. Now I am sorry you have a bad experience called life but honestly shut up

B - posted on 01/03/2013

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Wake up. Sucky parents are sucky parents whether they are with their kids full time or not. Last I checked my daycare provider does not encourage my daughter to pack heat. And she sure as hell doesn't make that option available, at least not on the paperwork that I had to fill out when I registered her...

Making working moms who already feel at least a little crappy about leaving their kids at a daycare feel even worse is EXTREMELY counterproductive and does nothing to promote your "solution," which in and of itself has the potential to actually worsen the problem. If you want to rant, start a blog.

Okay, I'm done. Can't argue with crazy. Aren't there mods in these communities???

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I lived in an area where there were unlimited numbers of homeless teenagers . I also lived in a area near the edge of a ghetto in a major city where young kids on bicycles that could hardly reach the pedals carried guns . many or most of those runaway teens were not from that area they were runaways from average families who could not satisfy or justify their rights to live at home. not just a few millions of them.. people think its not their fault then whose fault is it. my kid and I had a great relationship a very understanding and loving relationship, despite urban conditions we lived pretty decent. Had friends had fun did good things together . During hard times I had help from my parents and her dad. When she was very young and I had to work she went to daycare. For most working moms daycare is a crucial need . I think that a warmer daycare situation could possible lend to better more stable minds in children and also offer employment to single moms who are in need of a place to be with their little ones and are not employed in other places.. a place for single moms and little kids to be when there is no alternative . moms who don't want to leave their kids with people they don't know. This is not a me better and more wonderful and the all knowing mother of the earth or world but just a thought that perhaps kids with a better start in life grow up to be more loving caring individuals. Im not the solution to the worlds problems and god knows hearts afire. most kids are good and are good to their moms especially.the kids of single mothers who work . they sympathize but they do deserve better however millions don't have better and those millions who do have better whose kids wind up on the street . need to devise a plan to improve their personal relatinsips with their kids and stop the runaway situation

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anytime kids under the age of 12 are carrying guns in any society something is drastically wrong. sorry.

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what is the problem then many kids are good and never become serial killers and don't carry guns but the numbers of kids that are susceptible to getting involved in peer pressure im not accusing and no most don't become bad I look around and see a world of normalcy and shopping malls and other public places and the world looks like it is fairly good for all and no crime but there is another side the side the good world neglects and rejects and ridicules. is there something that could prevent your innocent little baby from getting involved in a gun slinging mode of existence during adolescents there is a cause for it is widespread it does not seem real or a threat to most people in the world but it is .

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so many of you out there trying to save face but privacy respected but while you pretend please do not only save face but save the human race.

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people could write in on how to improve society instead of believing that there is no problems ten million runaways are a problem they are homeless neglected and from all walks of life. . list of ways that daycare could be improved. Before problems get solved people have to admit to themselves and others that there is one and stop trying to justify the wrongs mostly unavoidable but still wrong. This is some things I thought of that may be of interest to others. 24 hour daycare in a homelike environment possible to hire unemployed single mothers , retirees , young adults, and elderly people to be childcare workers, and create a simulated family environment, instead of a school environment in all categories and levels of the world. one more time children from the ages of 0 - 6 need to be loved nurtured and most of all to feel safe and have adults care for them. It is the most crucial age of a persons development. There is no place like that in modern society. at present. not to say that daycare centers of today are not good they are good and are what we have but we are breeding violent, runaways by the millions. Many kids leave for adventure and become something good many perish most do, We don't want a nation of gun slinging school kids and runaways . the good kids carry guns those guns are usually not acquired legally. kids packing guns are a serious threat to modern society getting worse all the time. providing an safer environment makes a person not wish to do such things that is the reason. downplay drugs downplay violence and stop the protest what are they protesting. what don't they want or what do they want. I was held up at a bus stop by a teenage boy in a school uniform at gunpoint a boy less than 15 years old from his looks he was basically a well off kid from a decent family. Why did he do that. he is lacking love but what was his early childhood like was mom working? was dad gone ? did mom and dad have multiple significant others probably so. what can anyone expect of kids who have no place to avoid a horrible family situation. multiple parents lovers and boyfriends girlfriends divorce does destroy kids does destroy life . due to the fact that we are living in a fast paced world we could at least think to provide better facilities outside of the home to insure safety and warmth to the little ones. if you are reading this and wish to lie to even yourselves and that the divorce rate and family situations are not just there then you really have lost all. since we suffer inflation in the nation and work is before love for money the standard too high then at least think to create a better place for the tiny new people of the planet earth.

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not all kids will grow up to be serial killers but do agree that tiny children need to be nurtured . Sorry if you disagree. I lived in a place where there were a lot of runaway kids . mostly children of divorce and were not robbed of the fundamentals of life parents had money they gave them everything they needed but love and trust and were too busy to pay attention to the love factor and caring factor .. So then there are millions of young kids homeless, smart, educated ,parents have money but did not care about them in the ways of love and caring, they just did not have the time. Yes they are bad off and yes they do go to jail and become anarchist .. We all idolize our bad kids but those kid are suffering. it is parents fault . Being a single mom daddy had the household and mama had an apartment in the big city where mama had to work like a dog. with the kid and daddy kept the house . mama never had it so easy and did not make the $$ daddy did and couldn't afford to keep the house so what then mama and baby lived in a runaway world too.. mama worked made money but baby was hanging out with all the other homeless runaway kids in an urban society. whose parents were divorced but she had mama there .. while daddy sat at home worked and paid the bills but daddy paid for clothes school and doctors and daddy bailed her out of jail and daddy bought her first car and her first job and saw her off on her first date. .. divorce does not make a difference? if you drop your kid off on a cold floor mat daily they don't develop a sense of trust and love they develop an i don t care attitude and the kids deserve better.. because of how things are these days doing something about it is what we need to do and cover all ends to help the major change in society has happened but to enable ourselves to beat those changes and get these kids feeling a bit more loved and accepted is a major concern and it DOES matter. When your little pot head kids leave home and go to the big city its single divorced mothers like me who get sued, threatened , and jailed over your kids who adopt me as their mother because I look cool, My divorce case has me here and I don't want to be the mother of a hundred thousand runaways. The one you blame for your kids running away .. they never had the one who understands and the one who goes to jail for the neglect their parents gave them. The world is NOT a perfect place but the amount of kids that leave home and get nowhere is growing in numbers and you are all damned right it is the fault of lack of love and trust .If you don't have the time to love and trust your kids then hire people who provide love an trust so that I don't have to become the mother of another ten million runaways. please. .

Angel - posted on 01/02/2013

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I agree Bethany. My son was a baby when he went to daycare and he is not going to grow up be a serial killer- that is completely offensive. Don't start stuff Mary.

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Mary, why are you posting this in a "Working Mom" group? Just to get people riled up? To propagate "Mommy Wars?" Or are you just a little *cukoo* *cukoo*?

Don't start stuff. Keep your ideas to yourself. My kid isn't going to grow up to be a serial killer because she was dropped off at a day care on weekdays. I (and most other normal people) went to school with kids whose moms were SAHMs, working moms, and some even had *gasp* no mom at all and you know what? Most of us turned out just fine.

Just stop already. I think the rest of us are in agreement on this?

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no one can really change the world and it is what it is and yes I don't discern the day care centers of today really but I also access a certain part of humans that makes them with to create a better mousetrap that is how mankind has grown to a better world. I would not shut down or discern the day care universe of the present day but call to the attention of all that improvements can always be made. I know what we have in the present day is probably the best we can do but there is always room for improvements in the world but we first need to realize where to improve or accept so that is why we converse and exchange thoughts , mine is a thought not a hard case steadfast statement just a notion to perhaps improve ourselves by knowing and or thinking of reality and what can be done.. Im not like I said stead fast unaccepting orwishing to detroy what we have that is good and all daycare centers are needed and the children are not hurt but there is room for improvement for all without making it seem too tidy or too good is not good either but kids little beings are growning into what they are and they are feeling just what I stated . there are growning numbers of little delinquents in the world today that is why no other reason but inflation mom and dad have no time to do anything but work so people need to provide a better environment in which to put their little ones to give them a sense of love warmth and security .If you don't think children need that then I feel sorry for you you are someone trying to avoid a lawsuit.

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to me sending a child to school at infancy is horrible and creates fears that cause little children to become serial killers and runaways little anarchists at an early age because they are robbed of the love of a mother or other nurturing source in their early development stages left feeling abandoned and placed on a mat with a hundred other poor little kids like a barbeque pit for the needy. im sorry.

Maggie - posted on 01/02/2013

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MARY you live in a sad delusion. Most kids move away from home, yes. When they get older and want to be independent. I know VERY few adults who ran away from home because their parents were neglectful or horrible. Maybe you should start looking for the positive in the situation! Kids who go to day care get companionship of other children. They get to play with things they might not gave at home. They get more adults to care for and teach them. They get independence from mom and dad to grow into the person they are. There are a few bad care centers but most of them are good.

Maggie - posted on 01/02/2013

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What the heck?! How about mom and dad take more interest in their kid? Or maybe you think it is better to just leave the kids in your group home. Hey, why not just board them there until they are old enough to be interesting to the parents? This might be the biggest waste-of-time, offensive post I have seen in a while. WHO SAYS STUFF LIKE THIS ?!------->" forgotten kids have sense of belonging to their families or anyone and just go off angry at the world. It is a result of a cold unwanted busy mom and dad life."

Angel - posted on 12/31/2012

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the daycare my son goes to is wonderful! they are nurturing and caring. Not at all like you described. he is in the pre-k room. It is actually a pre-k and not just a 3 and 4 yr old room. He loves it and they are great with him. But they do have rules that he has to follow. He is not coddled. Which I love. He doesn't feel abandoned, he has his best friends and his teachers there (one is his first crush). And he knows mommy will be there when she is off work. He is on vacation this week with me and keeps asking when he can go back.

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If you live above the average joe line financially perhaps you are one of the people who can break ground on the first homelike childcare center in America for the average class person.

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Myself as an individual cant really say im any different from the rest of the parents in the world and have suffered all the same as the rest and more than most in this life . as a group of concerned people about ourselves perhaps together people can improve modern life and think a lot about the kids.

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Your kids are bad because WE are not doing anything for them to help them to grow spiritually strong and to learn to trust.. To establish trust is the key.. Many people have secure lives and families that probably are not so effected but do feel helpless and their voice is certainly not heard about the schools and childcare in their area but if moms and dads continue to have to work and drop off the little ones who need nurturing to a floor mat never will they establish trust they will feel abandfoned and turn to drugs and feel that life is not worth trying . We grow a population of homeless teenagers and men and women who reject home and family and wish to travel to jobs in foreign lands to get away from their mothers families and others.

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I don't want to live in fear of my neighbors gun packing kids in an upper middle class mid sized town who don't have the decency to teach them not to threaten the neighbors with gunfire or teach them anything valuable at all. I would not want to revert to the past for iifestyles but I do wish to live in peace and feel safe enough to sleep with my door open again. I believe it can be done so must we all believe it can be done. God Bless America

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The real problem is everyone working complaining and doing nothing to improve their living situation for the benefit of their kids to insure them a good positive outlook and happiness within. It takes nurturing and love which in modern times the cost of living is so high and the amount of play time and time to do things together as families is zero. .

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YOU expect your kids to grow up with some sense of love and responsibility but these days they are dropped off and forgotten in every childcare facility I have ever seen .. pretense is a horrible way to live and so we all do live in pretense so we are breeding a huge group of little criminals carrying guns in the second grade and shooting the neighbors. If things don't change society gets worse . kids are the next society.. forgotten kids have sense of belonging to their families or anyone and just go off angry at the world. It is a result of a cold unwanted busy mom and dad life. Providing childcare that was more like a real home would be a great start for us to get our kids on the right track and not feel so abandoned. Another thing that is horrid a school without a prayer and allowing kids to smoke chew gum or talk in class much less teach them the kama sutra in grade school.

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single moms and working moms and dads would feel much safer and better leaving their kids in a safe homelike facility than a drop off and forget type place . I was a single mother had to work when my child was young . I hated leaving her in those cold childcare places . She was too small and tiny to be left in a daycare center and sleep on a mat next to other poor kids that had to be dropped off and watched but not cared for or had a place to be loved or cared about. Maybe a new type of childcare facility for especially single moms who work at night in major cities. Or single dads who work at night in major cities. If there were safe places to leave your kids in modern times in big cities more people would have children and feel safe about it. These days everyone has to work and everyone has a huge problem on where to leave the little ones that have to work. Safer and more family home oriented childcare facilities would probably change the mind of a lot of women to have children that would otherwise choose to terminate a pregnancy feeling there were no alternatives. Creating a place for working mothers to leave their children that was safe , family like setting , 24 hour availability, and life giving nourishment for a affordable cost would be the real deal. .

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