16 year olds and sex "debate" thread...

Amanda - posted on 06/30/2009 ( 295 moms have responded )

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ok, so i am starting this thread because i am not going to lie, i love reading all of the debate and trash talk (it's one of my guilty pleasures, come on i know i am not alone!) on this but am a little tired of seeing it on EVERY OTHER thread (and lets face it, who has time to look through all the other threads to find it?!) in which fellow moms are looking for advice on totally different topics! so lets just get into it here, we can get all of the nastiness-sometimes hilariousness out here on this thread.

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Erica - posted on 07/03/2009

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I must say that I thought long and hard about even putting my two cents in this debate but I believe that it might make an impact on someone. Let me first say that we are not called to be our brothers judge but to be our brothers keeper. This being said I dont think that anyone of us have lived a sinless life to be judgeing any other person for whatever choices they have made in life. To sit here and say that 16 is not the age is totally wrong. It is not about age as so many of you have said there are older people who care less for their children then some teen parents. It is a matter of maturity and responsibility. As to the mom bashing what about that 16 year old boy who just fathered that baby and who might have others out there too. He is just as guilty and when we realize that we should be holding BOTH parents accountable we might see a change in the males in this society and therefore our children born to parents of any age might enjoy life with both parents.



As a mom who had her first child at 16 I must tell you that I graduated from high schol (even prior to my original graduation date) and went to vocational school. I have supported my children and have even taken on older peoples responsibilities. Did having my daughter at 16 change my life yes it did, it changed my career path, it delayed my attending college ( but did not stop me) or at least from what I had planned but then again anything could have delayed it, maybe a family tragedy or a relocation who knows. The point is that having my daughter at 16 after being with her father for years prior and years after did not make me a bad person or irresponsible. I stepped up to the plate and took care of what I had to do. I have not "slept around" and probably have been with fewer people then many who dated until later in life.



As to those parents who believe that it wont happen to me, not my kids. My only advise is to wake up. Quit being so naive. No matter how you raise your kids there will come a point when they will have a mind of their own to make their own decisions. As parents the only thing we can do is instill in them morals and values and support them in the deicions they make in life regardless of what the topic is. We need to educate our children on all of the subjects that the world is dying to tell them about and explain where our morals and values stand on the matter. Then hopefully and prayfully when they are in those compromising situations they will know the consequences and what they are ready to handle.



Remember one thing we are all unique creatures and each one of us is made to walk a different path. Streotyping and classifying young moms is as bad as saying all blacks are low lifes, or women are not as worthy as men simply because they are woman. Are we not moving foward in life then lets do so. Besides one thing that has always baffled me why are woman always ready to put another woman down. If we learned to stand united as men do we might become stronger people. May God Bless you and your families.

Nicole - posted on 07/03/2009

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I am not saying that 16 year olds should be free to have sex but as mentioned before, they are going to have sex if they really want to, whether their parents know or not. And in some countries and cultures, by age 16 females are married and having children already...is that wrong too?
I think that there simply needs to be better education and conversation about sex, not just from the schools but by parents too. And in the schools they should do more IN DEPTH educations not just "wrap your stump before you hump" but actually giving students all the gory details of childbirth and STD's and the effects that they can have on your body and your life. And to the mothers who think that their daughters WONT be having sex at 16 because they raised them properly; you may have raised them well but you can't control the effects that their peers and the media have on them. If "everybody else is doing it" then they might just be tempted to try it, and that goes for everything, not just sex...a sport, drugs, drinking, a new hair style. So yes try to teach your sons and daughters to wait until they are mature enough to handle the consequences of their actions but also let them know what some of the consequences might be, and not just getting pregnant that might not be enough to stop someone. After all at age 16 who wasn't curious about the other sex, and their own body too. There are other things couples can do besides vaginal sex...

Laura - posted on 07/03/2009

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Right I'll be honest, I lost my virginity at 15, and had my 1st kid just b4 my 17th, do I regret having sex so early? oh yes! No way was I personally mature enough to take that kind of step! (would like to point out I'm from the uk where 16 is the age of consent so when I had my baby I was old enough to work etc) I now have 3 kids at the age of 24. Am I on welfare? no r my kids happy healthy and well looked after? yes although I went thru alot of shit a few years back and if it hadn't been 4 my kids I would probably be dead now, and I am not exaggerating. So in a way I'm glad I had them so early and if that makes me a skanky slut despite the fact I dont sleep around, am in a happy committed relationship and a damn good mother (if i do say so myself) Then i'm proud of it. I would also like to point out that I was raised 'right' but guess what at the moment in question I still let some pretty words and my hormones take over! so u can't say that just because u raise ur kids with certain values they will necessarily follow thru with them!

Sheila - posted on 07/03/2009

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Okay okaY! I have to put my two sence in:

I have two children. I had my first at the age of 18 then my 2nd at 19. I finished high school and have to degree's. My husband and I have raised my children with no help from the state or anyone. We have a nice home, new cars and a Harley. Don't judge by age I know some adults whom had children at older age and still are living on taxes payers. I don't think it was to do with age I think it has a lot to do with maturity. As far as the comment on 16 yr old girls dropping there panties, have ya been out in the wor

Nichole - posted on 07/03/2009

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Quoting Vicki:

LOL This is my favorite thread tonight. You guys are hilarious.
Yeah, you can say, "Oh my kid won't do that," all you want. My kid won't ever break a bone. My kid won't ever forget his homework. My kid won't ever say a bad word, or cut class, or knock up some chick just out of elementary school.

Okay, all you can do is lay the foundation and encourage your precious boys and girls to make sound decisions. They won't always! Chances are, they are GONNA fuck up at one turn or another. I'm glad you think so highly of your parental abilities. Just really, if you are going to go off on a tirade like that here, I hope you don't lecture the baby teenager to be in the same manner. Lecture with love, alright? :)


Totally agreed. I have said this in other posts but some women think they are mothers of the year and there children are gonna listen every single word they say....Its hysterical that they think that way.

Nichole - posted on 07/03/2009

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Quoting Vicki:

LOL This is my favorite thread tonight. You guys are hilarious.
Yeah, you can say, "Oh my kid won't do that," all you want. My kid won't ever break a bone. My kid won't ever forget his homework. My kid won't ever say a bad word, or cut class, or knock up some chick just out of elementary school.

Okay, all you can do is lay the foundation and encourage your precious boys and girls to make sound decisions. They won't always! Chances are, they are GONNA fuck up at one turn or another. I'm glad you think so highly of your parental abilities. Just really, if you are going to go off on a tirade like that here, I hope you don't lecture the baby teenager to be in the same manner. Lecture with love, alright? :)


Totally agreed. I have said this in other posts but some women think they are mothers of the year and there children are gonna listen every single word they say....Its hysterical that they think that way.

Nichole - posted on 07/03/2009

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Quoting Vicki:

LOL This is my favorite thread tonight. You guys are hilarious.
Yeah, you can say, "Oh my kid won't do that," all you want. My kid won't ever break a bone. My kid won't ever forget his homework. My kid won't ever say a bad word, or cut class, or knock up some chick just out of elementary school.

Okay, all you can do is lay the foundation and encourage your precious boys and girls to make sound decisions. They won't always! Chances are, they are GONNA fuck up at one turn or another. I'm glad you think so highly of your parental abilities. Just really, if you are going to go off on a tirade like that here, I hope you don't lecture the baby teenager to be in the same manner. Lecture with love, alright? :)


Totally agreed. I have said this in other posts but some women think they are mothers of the year and there children are gonna listen every single word they say....Its hysterical that they think that way.

Mo - posted on 07/02/2009

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Quoting Heidi:

Lol I love it! I definanlty agree with Jamie on this! I have friends that have done everything from waiting until they were married and some had kids at 15! I don't think physical their bodies are developed enough, and mentally they are definantly not ready for it! And marriage at 16!! You have to be kidding!! Enjoy being a teenager and live more of a care free life!! Don't have sex unless your ready to have kids because birth control does not always work!!!! If you want to have kids early, wait until your 18, a couple years won't kill you! It's amazing how much you mature in 2 years. I have asked a lot of moms who had married young, when they get older they almost always wish they would have waiting a couple years, got their diploma, maybe some college, and enjoyed being young and care free.



I agree with birth control doesnt always work! actually i agree with most of these post being a young mum isnt easy, im a young mum i have 2 children and im 20 but unlike most i am doing well bringing up my kids they have never wanted for anything they are always well dressed, me and my partner of four years have brought a house to put over there heads and they are thriving.i totally agree that 2 years can make a huge diffrence i had my 1st at 18 and i was ready but at 16 i was having way to much fun and couldnt imagine a life with kids

Sarah - posted on 07/02/2009

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Quoting Amanda :



Quoting Sarah:

I find most of these comments absolutely hillarious! I am with you Amanda on enjoying the debating and trash talking that goes on here, so this thread is awesome :-) Of course, I do have to add to it...

Do i think kids should be having sex at 16? No, I don't. But I find it amusing how many people say its okay once you are 18. Seriously??? I personally don't think it is a point of pride to say I waited until I graduated high school. There really is not that much of a difference between 16 and 18, yes i know, at 18 you are legally an adult. SO WHAT! you don't magically become completely mature and grown up on your 18th birthday!

Sex shouldn't occur at a certain age, it should happen when you are in a long term relationship with someone you love and who loves you! You should make sure you are physically and emotionally ready for sex and all the consequences.

But to the moms who think it won't happen to their kids, are you kidding me? As parents we do the best we can and raise our kids to hopefully make good choices, but they will make their OWN choices, not yours. Jamie you are fooling yourself if you think just because you raise your daughter to have high self esteem, etc, that guarantees she won't have sex at 16. Kids from "good" homes still have sex at a young age. I sincerally hope that she doesn't, but i wouldn't be so quick to claim "my daughter isn't stupid" if I were you.






nope but you can sure as hell rent an apartment and get a higher paying job then some shit mouth 16 yr old can. here you cant even wait tables unless you are old enough to buy/serve alcohol (18)





Actually alot of places won't rent to 18 year olds...it depends on your job and credit history.  I was waiting tables at 16, you just can't bartend here.

Vicki - posted on 07/02/2009

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LOL This is my favorite thread tonight. You guys are hilarious.

Yeah, you can say, "Oh my kid won't do that," all you want. My kid won't ever break a bone. My kid won't ever forget his homework. My kid won't ever say a bad word, or cut class, or knock up some chick just out of elementary school.



Okay, all you can do is lay the foundation and encourage your precious boys and girls to make sound decisions. They won't always! Chances are, they are GONNA fuck up at one turn or another. I'm glad you think so highly of your parental abilities. Just really, if you are going to go off on a tirade like that here, I hope you don't lecture the baby teenager to be in the same manner. Lecture with love, alright? :)

Lorraine - posted on 07/02/2009

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Quoting Megan:

i cant believe the put down on here... i dont think 16 yo should be having sex either but hey i fell pregnant at 15.... so who am i to talk.... but coming from me, i came from an already messed up family, i felt unloved and i was out to find some one to love me and i didnt know about any other way to feel loved... i know its no excuse but hey we dont know whats right or wrong at the age of 15 and we dont know wats love and wats sex... especailly when you havnt had good parents teaching you values and teaching you that you should respect yourself.... and as for you jamie, you wouldnt know what its like to be bought up any other way then you were... you wouldnt know what its like to be put down through your whole up bringing and you wouldnt know what it was like to be an unloved 15 yo... its a horrible place out there and you cant choose wat you get born into.... all as you can do is the best that you know how.... i had my little girl when i was 16 and successfully completed my hair dressing while i was a younge mum!!! and no my little girls dad and i didnt stay together, but he has helped me throughout the last 9 years when ever i have needed him!!! she has a mummy and daddy that love her very much!! if i didnt have my daughter i dare say i would have been found dead in a gutter at 16!! falling pregnant made me grow up and be responsible for not only me but my baby too.... i finally had some one to love and some one to love me back!! i wouldnt change a thing i love my life i love my daughter and i never regret what happened... how ever if i could be a rock for other 15 year olds that were feeling the way i felt at such a younge age to help them find there feet without having such a huge responsibility, it would make me so happy!!! its hard work being a mum no one is ever ready... its also hard being an unloved 15 year old aswell...... i least my own place at 16.. ive never lived in welfare and ive worked hard to get every thing i have now... im not easy and i respect myself more than ever and i am out there making a difference in my community!! im currently working on a community project to do with younge mums... so maybe instead of voicing your oppinion you should get out there and take action in doing some thing about it!!!



you have no clue what jamie or anyone else has been through. you might be surprised to know that just because someone has some ethics and morals does not mean they came from the right side of the tracks. I am sorry you became a statistic but that doesnt mean that all of us from shitty back grounds end up like that. I sure as hell didnt and you dont know what the fuck I went through

Lorraine - posted on 07/02/2009

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Quoting Sarah:

I find most of these comments absolutely hillarious! I am with you Amanda on enjoying the debating and trash talking that goes on here, so this thread is awesome :-) Of course, I do have to add to it...

Do i think kids should be having sex at 16? No, I don't. But I find it amusing how many people say its okay once you are 18. Seriously??? I personally don't think it is a point of pride to say I waited until I graduated high school. There really is not that much of a difference between 16 and 18, yes i know, at 18 you are legally an adult. SO WHAT! you don't magically become completely mature and grown up on your 18th birthday!

Sex shouldn't occur at a certain age, it should happen when you are in a long term relationship with someone you love and who loves you! You should make sure you are physically and emotionally ready for sex and all the consequences.

But to the moms who think it won't happen to their kids, are you kidding me? As parents we do the best we can and raise our kids to hopefully make good choices, but they will make their OWN choices, not yours. Jamie you are fooling yourself if you think just because you raise your daughter to have high self esteem, etc, that guarantees she won't have sex at 16. Kids from "good" homes still have sex at a young age. I sincerally hope that she doesn't, but i wouldn't be so quick to claim "my daughter isn't stupid" if I were you.



nope but you can sure as hell rent an apartment and get a higher paying job then some shit mouth 16 yr old can. here you cant even wait tables unless you are old enough to buy/serve alcohol (18)

Lorraine - posted on 07/02/2009

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Quoting Jamie:

So I have mixed feelings on this topic. Do I think 16 year olds SHOULD have sex? No. But the thing is they are going to anyway.



ARE THEY!!!!! omg for a moment I actually though some teens were not loose little skanky hoes and had the morals to wait until they are adults. guess I was wrong, well I better just face the music, my daughters 5 and since you say they are doing it younger and younger I bet she will in a few years....oh well what can you do. they are going to do it anyway so we might as well not try to stop it. lets just hand them some condoms and let them know if they mess up theirs always a vacume that can suck out their unwanted bastard child.



(sarcasm here)

Lorraine - posted on 07/02/2009

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Quoting Jennifer:

Whoa, this is a young mothers board, and LOL you are calling out OTHER young moms? Wait, whaaaaa????
Most of US had sex early and most of US had babies early. Oh and the older mothers look down on us sometimes, and the ever growing number of geriatric new moms are looking waaaay down on them, and every mom is just looking down at every other mom like their shit don't stink . . . I'm getting a headache. Here it is, no one is ever ready to have kids. And . . . that's what the 9 months is for. Get yo shit 2gether and get ready. Grow up, throw out all the drugs, get some respectable food in the house, put some money in the bank, and vioala, you are almost ready! At any age its hard, scary, wonderful, and miraculous, and we really need to be supportive on threads like this. But hey, I'll only be on here for 6 more months, then I will be 30. :( I guess I'm the grandma of the thread huh?



this isnt a support thread. did you read the oppening post? it is a thread for debateing, this is a debate thread which means anything goes. cant handle the nasty? well there are plenty of milder threads where people enjoy pussy footing around subjects because they are scared to say what they really think. Maybe you will enjoy one of thoes threads better.

Jamie - posted on 07/02/2009

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So I have mixed feelings on this topic. Do I think 16 year olds SHOULD have sex? No. But the thing is they are going to anyway. Shit like that starts younger and younger every year and its kinda scary. I happend to be one of those girls that started early. I am in NO WAY proud of it but it happend. Luckily I was smart about it and got on birth control. A lot of these kids are not smart about it...dont use protection...get knocked up and then they are like "oh shit! what do I do now?" Then they run off and get abortions and what not which irritates my life. But there are some others that own up to their responsibility and sometimes not so smart choices and turn out to be great mothers. I had JUST turned 20 when I had my first kid. Lucky me because like I said earlier it could have happend way before that. My kids dad and I got together when I was 17..we are now married for 3 years and together almost 7. But anyway as much as I agree that 16 year olds shoudnt have sex and be having kids...there are tons of 30+ year olds that DEFINETLY shouldn't reproduce. Tell me you dont know any of them. Its a situation none of us will ever be able to control. Which scares the living shit out of me because even though my daughter is only turning 2 before I know it she herself will be a 16 year old girl and all I can do is pray that she will make the right decisions.

Amanda - posted on 07/02/2009

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Quoting Sarah:

I find most of these comments absolutely hillarious! I am with you Amanda on enjoying the debating and trash talking that goes on here, so this thread is awesome :-) Of course, I do have to add to it...

Do i think kids should be having sex at 16? No, I don't. But I find it amusing how many people say its okay once you are 18. Seriously??? I personally don't think it is a point of pride to say I waited until I graduated high school. There really is not that much of a difference between 16 and 18, yes i know, at 18 you are legally an adult. SO WHAT! you don't magically become completely mature and grown up on your 18th birthday!

Sex shouldn't occur at a certain age, it should happen when you are in a long term relationship with someone you love and who loves you! You should make sure you are physically and emotionally ready for sex and all the consequences.

But to the moms who think it won't happen to their kids, are you kidding me? As parents we do the best we can and raise our kids to hopefully make good choices, but they will make their OWN choices, not yours. Jamie you are fooling yourself if you think just because you raise your daughter to have high self esteem, etc, that guarantees she won't have sex at 16. Kids from "good" homes still have sex at a young age. I sincerally hope that she doesn't, but i wouldn't be so quick to claim "my daughter isn't stupid" if I were you.


I totally agree with all of this!  like  i said i don't think i was mature enough at 18 when i did it!  yes, there are times that children grow up and mirror thier parents but there are a lot of times that they stand on thier own 2 feet and do what they FEEL like doing or what they think is right regardless of what you teach them

Sarah - posted on 07/02/2009

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I find most of these comments absolutely hillarious! I am with you Amanda on enjoying the debating and trash talking that goes on here, so this thread is awesome :-) Of course, I do have to add to it...



Do i think kids should be having sex at 16? No, I don't. But I find it amusing how many people say its okay once you are 18. Seriously??? I personally don't think it is a point of pride to say I waited until I graduated high school. There really is not that much of a difference between 16 and 18, yes i know, at 18 you are legally an adult. SO WHAT! you don't magically become completely mature and grown up on your 18th birthday!



Sex shouldn't occur at a certain age, it should happen when you are in a long term relationship with someone you love and who loves you! You should make sure you are physically and emotionally ready for sex and all the consequences.



But to the moms who think it won't happen to their kids, are you kidding me? As parents we do the best we can and raise our kids to hopefully make good choices, but they will make their OWN choices, not yours. Jamie you are fooling yourself if you think just because you raise your daughter to have high self esteem, etc, that guarantees she won't have sex at 16. Kids from "good" homes still have sex at a young age. I sincerally hope that she doesn't, but i wouldn't be so quick to claim "my daughter isn't stupid" if I were you.

Dana - posted on 07/02/2009

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Quoting Nichole:

Wow is all I have to say, WOW...The same bitches saying the same dumb shit.



HAHAHAHAHAHA. I love that.

Megan - posted on 07/02/2009

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i cant believe the put down on here... i dont think 16 yo should be having sex either but hey i fell pregnant at 15.... so who am i to talk.... but coming from me, i came from an already messed up family, i felt unloved and i was out to find some one to love me and i didnt know about any other way to feel loved... i know its no excuse but hey we dont know whats right or wrong at the age of 15 and we dont know wats love and wats sex... especailly when you havnt had good parents teaching you values and teaching you that you should respect yourself.... and as for you jamie, you wouldnt know what its like to be bought up any other way then you were... you wouldnt know what its like to be put down through your whole up bringing and you wouldnt know what it was like to be an unloved 15 yo... its a horrible place out there and you cant choose wat you get born into.... all as you can do is the best that you know how.... i had my little girl when i was 16 and successfully completed my hair dressing while i was a younge mum!!! and no my little girls dad and i didnt stay together, but he has helped me throughout the last 9 years when ever i have needed him!!! she has a mummy and daddy that love her very much!! if i didnt have my daughter i dare say i would have been found dead in a gutter at 16!! falling pregnant made me grow up and be responsible for not only me but my baby too.... i finally had some one to love and some one to love me back!! i wouldnt change a thing i love my life i love my daughter and i never regret what happened... how ever if i could be a rock for other 15 year olds that were feeling the way i felt at such a younge age to help them find there feet without having such a huge responsibility, it would make me so happy!!! its hard work being a mum no one is ever ready... its also hard being an unloved 15 year old aswell...... i least my own place at 16.. ive never lived in welfare and ive worked hard to get every thing i have now... im not easy and i respect myself more than ever and i am out there making a difference in my community!! im currently working on a community project to do with younge mums... so maybe instead of voicing your oppinion you should get out there and take action in doing some thing about it!!!

Jennifer - posted on 07/02/2009

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Whoa, this is a young mothers board, and LOL you are calling out OTHER young moms? Wait, whaaaaa????

Most of US had sex early and most of US had babies early. Oh and the older mothers look down on us sometimes, and the ever growing number of geriatric new moms are looking waaaay down on them, and every mom is just looking down at every other mom like their shit don't stink . . . I'm getting a headache. Here it is, no one is ever ready to have kids. And . . . that's what the 9 months is for. Get yo shit 2gether and get ready. Grow up, throw out all the drugs, get some respectable food in the house, put some money in the bank, and vioala, you are almost ready! At any age its hard, scary, wonderful, and miraculous, and we really need to be supportive on threads like this. But hey, I'll only be on here for 6 more months, then I will be 30. :( I guess I'm the grandma of the thread huh?

Jamie - posted on 07/02/2009

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Most childcare is paid directly to the provider, not the mother. I don't receive it, but I have a friend that opperates a daycare center.

I always support teen mothers. My brother's ex s a teen mother (two days before her eighteenth birthday) she is a wonderful mother. My taxes pay for my nephew's medical care. I am happy to pay them.

Chase is the blessing of her life since she is now 20 and has lost both ovaries to tumors.

Mschelseamac - posted on 07/02/2009

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WOW I apologize about the HORRIBLE spacing on that last post

Mschelseamac - posted on 07/02/2009

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Quoting Megan:

I work at a public high school and I see everyday the girls that come into my office and either think they're pregnant or actually are. Its like the new cool accesory to have a baby anymore. At first I thought it was just the girls. But then I had at least 2 or 3 boys who I discovered had more than 1 child and they were only 16/17 years old! Both are equally guilty. Of course, none of my students are with their "baby daddies". I have one 15 year old girl who just had her 3rd child!!! All with different daddies of course. I have tried to impress upon them its never a good idea to have sex at 16 but I know they all do it. No amount of education/classes is going to change their mind. Anymore its ok, its like getting another purse to them. The govt needs to stop helping them out. If you think your responsible enough to have a baby at 16 then be prepared to support them, don't expect help from the govt or your parents. No more free handouts. If you are emancipated and can support yourself and others and have a steady relationship, go ahead, do what you want to do. But I have yet to meet at 16 year old child who is able to take care of themselves. Because the first time they get in trouble at school, who do they want to call? Mommy or Daddy. Who's "grown" now? I don't even draw attention to it anymore, I require dr notes for abscences, they get no special treatment at all. Your too fat and pregnant to sit in a desk, too bad, you fit it before you got pregnant. This is part of the consequences. There are no illusions of grandeur at our school. Except of course the ones the students impress among themselves. I'm sick of them.


 



  Really I'm torn on the support issue for teen Mothers. It would be great to think all the support is going to raise their children but I've known way too many who get their monthly cheque and run off partying for the weekend leaving their child with it's Grandparents.



 



  On the other hand it is very cruel not to support them or their children get nothing and suffer. The baby is innocent in everything, they shouldn't have to go without the necessities. I would hate to think of a young baby who couldn't recieve proper feedings or diaper changes because their parents cannot afford it.



  It is easy to say, "F'em let them deal with the mess they made." about young Mothers, but once you heard the report about the baby abandoned in a store, parking lot, dumpster because their Mother has run out of options that seems really foolish. Worse yet if they deam it better to kill their child rather than watch it suffer. At that point would you regret being pissed at the $20.00 a year of your taxes that may have helped that Mother have better options?



 



  If support for young Mother's (well ALL people asking for support for their children through the government) was given in a form that couldn't be misused I think people would be more comfortable with the idea. If the government paid the daycare directly, weekly they submitted if they need food, formula, ect and went to pick it up like at the foodbank. If they got non refundable "gift" cards for children's clothing OR if people donated good quality clothing to a government program where parents could exchange outgrown clothing for clothing that fit.



  I am not against my taxes going to help anyone raise a healthy cared for child. I'm against those people, young and old, who get their monthly cheque and chug it away in a bar!

Jamie - posted on 07/02/2009

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wow sex at 16, big deal. they invented condoms and oral contaceptives for a reason. i like both products and didn't concieve until i was 23.
no emotional problems or lingering guilt from giving it up too early.
sex is just sex. whether you're 16 or 60

Crystal - posted on 07/02/2009

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hahahahahaaa

Thanks guys, for this afternoon's entertainment... :D

Nichole - posted on 07/02/2009

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Wow is all I have to say, WOW...The same bitches saying the same dumb shit.

Jamie - posted on 07/02/2009

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Quoting Megan:

I work at a public high school and I see everyday the girls that come into my office and either think they're pregnant or actually are. Its like the new cool accesory to have a baby anymore. At first I thought it was just the girls. But then I had at least 2 or 3 boys who I discovered had more than 1 child and they were only 16/17 years old! Both are equally guilty. Of course, none of my students are with their "baby daddies". I have one 15 year old girl who just had her 3rd child!!! All with different daddies of course. I have tried to impress upon them its never a good idea to have sex at 16 but I know they all do it. No amount of education/classes is going to change their mind. Anymore its ok, its like getting another purse to them. The govt needs to stop helping them out. If you think your responsible enough to have a baby at 16 then be prepared to support them, don't expect help from the govt or your parents. No more free handouts. If you are emancipated and can support yourself and others and have a steady relationship, go ahead, do what you want to do. But I have yet to meet at 16 year old child who is able to take care of themselves. Because the first time they get in trouble at school, who do they want to call? Mommy or Daddy. Who's "grown" now? I don't even draw attention to it anymore, I require dr notes for abscences, they get no special treatment at all. Your too fat and pregnant to sit in a desk, too bad, you fit it before you got pregnant. This is part of the consequences. There are no illusions of grandeur at our school. Except of course the ones the students impress among themselves. I'm sick of them.


Good for you for not putting up with it. I dont think they should get special treatment just because they were stupid and got knocked up.



 

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Quoting Breonna:

So when Ur daughters fuck up and have sex @ 16.. r u going to call her a "skanky slut?

some mother's u'd be



Wont have to my daughter isnt stupid enough to do it. She is raised properly.  And feel free to smack me, Im sure your a skanky slut im talking about. Seems its only the skanky sluts that have a problem with what I have to say and you should be slapped for doing it. Didnt your mama teach you any self respect? Didnt your mama teach you to respect your body and not give it up to the first dick that walked by and got hard for you? Seriously, your a skanky skut if you give it up at 16 and must have not have been raised with high self esteem. As far as Im concerned any man to get in my pants is damn lucky because this is on prized pussy. You may not think so, but I do and Im not gonna just let some dude park his car in my garage because everyone else is doing it, or cause he might tell people we did it any ways. Who cares what he says? I know it didnt happen. I got called a slut many times in high school because I wouldnt give it up and I was proud of that.

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Quoting Breonna:

So when Ur daughters fuck up and have sex @ 16.. r u going to call her a "skanky slut?

some mother's u'd be



i definately won't!  i don't call anyone skanky or slut i don't think it helps any situation to name call, and i think part of the problem with the world is women treating other women poorly and calling them nasty names.  i think it will be different IF (i am not going to say it is or isn't going to happen) it is thier children

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I work at a public high school and I see everyday the girls that come into my office and either think they're pregnant or actually are. Its like the new cool accesory to have a baby anymore. At first I thought it was just the girls. But then I had at least 2 or 3 boys who I discovered had more than 1 child and they were only 16/17 years old! Both are equally guilty. Of course, none of my students are with their "baby daddies". I have one 15 year old girl who just had her 3rd child!!! All with different daddies of course. I have tried to impress upon them its never a good idea to have sex at 16 but I know they all do it. No amount of education/classes is going to change their mind. Anymore its ok, its like getting another purse to them. The govt needs to stop helping them out. If you think your responsible enough to have a baby at 16 then be prepared to support them, don't expect help from the govt or your parents. No more free handouts. If you are emancipated and can support yourself and others and have a steady relationship, go ahead, do what you want to do. But I have yet to meet at 16 year old child who is able to take care of themselves. Because the first time they get in trouble at school, who do they want to call? Mommy or Daddy. Who's "grown" now? I don't even draw attention to it anymore, I require dr notes for abscences, they get no special treatment at all. Your too fat and pregnant to sit in a desk, too bad, you fit it before you got pregnant. This is part of the consequences. There are no illusions of grandeur at our school. Except of course the ones the students impress among themselves. I'm sick of them.

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So when Ur daughters fuck up and have sex @ 16.. r u going to call her a "skanky slut?



some mother's u'd be

Breonna - posted on 07/02/2009

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Quoting Brandy:

I have to say Michelle, Jamie and Crystal are the most ignorant people on this place! Crystal, I havent seen much on you but the other 2 need to get REAL!! I am 19 and have a 6 month old son. I have een wit my fiance for 3 years and we starting havin sex at 16. We planned on having Jeremiah young and it is the greatest blessing in our lives. So yall really need to stop downing people and encourage cuz you will regret it when sumthan happen to you!!



I had my son @ 18 years old. And I started having sex early too. I wouldn't encourage it though. it does make your life a little more difficult when your young and dealing with a lot of responsibilities but I handled it just fine. My kids have a great life...anything they could ever want. I'm now married and graduating with my bachelors and I'm 21. So SCREW all the supid ass's on here. Who r u to judge anyone? And yeah .. Jamie needs to be smacked! Lol

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I was 16 my first time but i wish i had waited longer. It was horrible and the guy ended up telling me he had voices in his head telling him to kill me! I broke up with him the second he told me that and tried to avoid him. But once you have it everyone seems to find out. Within days of me loosing my virginity the whole school knew and people are calling me a whore even my own sister (who lost hers a week later with a guy she had been dating a week and she was only 13). Its horrible how you are treated after and how every guy expects it from you. I wish i had waited until i met the guy im with now hes great. We have 2 boys and are getting married this year. I think if our parents educated us better instead of relying on the schools we would make better choices. I know i would have done differently if my mom even said i don't want you having sex or said no you cant sleep at your boyfriends house.

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I have yet to meet a 16 year old mature enough to be a responsible mom. I know a girl who was pregnant at 16 and threatened her "fiance" to kill herself and her baby just to piss him off. Most girls at 16 are too emotional and don't try and think rational. I know I NEVER did. I have been there, done that. I lost my virginity at dad gum 14, seriously...I was in absolutely no way responsible enough or mature enough to be doing so. Sex is more than physical, its an emotional attachment, especially for females. Young or not, you can't prevent anyone from finding a way to have sex, but oh my goodness...I have met 18 year olds who aren't mature enough to think of their kids, its rare. With age, comes responsiblity. You become wise from life's lessons. At 18 SOME (and I say that in all CAPS because someone is going to be dumb enough to not read it that way) girls aren't even half way thinking about anyone else over themselves. I'm sure there are some girls out there who are young moms that step up and do what they have to do, but seriously...where are they? I have yet to meet one.

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You can't really stop a sixteen year old from having sex, they'll find a way if they want to do it. But, I do firmly believe that 16 year olds are not ready to be parents. Sure, they can love a child, but there's more to parenting than loving your child. You give up a lot for you kids, and I doubt there are many 16 year olds that wouldn't resent their child eventually for the death of their youth, not that it's the kids fault, but you get my point.



My sister had a child at 17 and she was the world's WORST parent. Her daughter has turned out pretty well considering, but my parents basically raised her. My sister did a lot of damage to her child that can never be fixed.

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Quoting Amanda :



Quoting Nichole:

I am actually visiting my family for a few days cause I don't live in the same state as they do and after I posted my last reply I started to watch the television with my youngest sister and no wonder why children are having sex. Does anyone else see what is on television nowadays??? She is watching Degrassi, has anyone seen it? It's on the N which is a teen television channel. It is all about sex from what she tells me. The show has all teens in it. I don't think this is educational for our youth to be watching. Does anyone else agree?





degrassi is a canadian made show and no it isnt all about sex it is about a variety of issues facing teens in todays world. they do not glamorize things they try to make it reality. yes there is consequenses of sex on some of the shows, In the old degrassi series a guy has sex unprotected and gets HIV, a girl has sex gets pregnant and keeps the baby and it shows how hard life is and what you have to give up, another gets pregnant and has an abortion and it shows how hard having an abortion was . it deals with what happens when you take drugs, in the old series a guy takes acid and jumps off of a bridge while high, he lived but was permanantly brain damaged and had the mind of a 6 year old. he had to be institutionalized for the rest of his life. they deal with anorexia/bulimia, street racing, theft, murder, gang violence, date rape, protesting, politics and teens, divorce of parents, gender identity, homosexuality, mental disorders like bi polar ect ect ect and the list goes on.






degrassi is a great show that can help a lot of teens, maybe if you actually watch it both the old and new series you would agree that it is one of the better shows on tv for them





Thank you, Amanda. I will have to watch it. From what my sister told me it was all about sex. I haven't actually never seen it. The way my sister talked was that it just dealt with sex and that is it.

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Quoting Chelsea:

You know I think that too much emphasis and stress are put on girls to remain Godly virgins until they're married. It's an act of rebellion in many cases because it's something that cannot be prevented if they really want it to happen.

I think the 16 year old BOYS need just as much grief! I'm sick of hearing the stupid little G's "Oh yeah I banged her, and her, and I did her!' They put pressure on girls to do things before they're ready, "Oh if you don't you're such a lesbian!" OR "I'll just say we did it anyways!".

I think everyone younger, same age, older has to start telling these hormone driven little auto drive penises to keep it in their pants. We need to start berayting them and calling them down! A girl who has sex young is a skank a boy is a player! THE BOY IS THE SKANK TOO! It's such a double fucking standard and it drives me INSANE!

Boys risk STD's Girls risk that and Pregnancy. Then they're left with the hard choice to aborting or keeping the child. If they abort they're murderers, if they keep it they're looked down on by society as young unfit Mothers. Meanwhile the Boy is "Such a great guy!" if he pays child support or hangs around! If he doesn't then she has to FIGHT EVERY STEP to prove he's the Father and get support.

It isn't fair, it isn't right! Next time you hear some "player" bragging go up to his face and call him a fucking dirty skank! Call him down and tell him he has angered God and gone against Christianity! Tell him he's ruining the community, making babies who suck up tax dollars!

It always centres around a poor girl who made a choice in her life and is going to have it thrown in her face FOREVER! The guy just goes and pops his dick into the next uncertain girl!

I don't know what else to say but FACK!


what she said =P

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Quoting Jamie:

Ok you say having sex at 16 is not respondsible um how else would you define stupidity, not being responsible, duh same thing different word. Its flat out nasty and disgusting, also 2 words that means the same thing. i dont care if you have sex at 16 with one person or more, your a skanky slut for giving in. How many times have you seen girls at that age in love with this boy one week and in love with another next week. All the times but guess what they give it up because its "love" they dont know what love is. Quit trying to be grown up at 16 your not. my new campain slogan "Save the pussy"



SAVE THE PUSSY needs the addition of CAGE THE DICK!

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Quoting Jamie:

Ok you say having sex at 16 is not respondsible um how else would you define stupidity, not being responsible, duh same thing different word. Its flat out nasty and disgusting, also 2 words that means the same thing. i dont care if you have sex at 16 with one person or more, your a skanky slut for giving in. How many times have you seen girls at that age in love with this boy one week and in love with another next week. All the times but guess what they give it up because its "love" they dont know what love is. Quit trying to be grown up at 16 your not. my new campain slogan "Save the pussy"



SAVE THE PUSSY needs the addition of CAGE THE DICK!

Mschelseamac - posted on 07/01/2009

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You know I think that too much emphasis and stress are put on girls to remain Godly virgins until they're married. It's an act of rebellion in many cases because it's something that cannot be prevented if they really want it to happen.



I think the 16 year old BOYS need just as much grief! I'm sick of hearing the stupid little G's "Oh yeah I banged her, and her, and I did her!' They put pressure on girls to do things before they're ready, "Oh if you don't you're such a lesbian!" OR "I'll just say we did it anyways!".



I think everyone younger, same age, older has to start telling these hormone driven little auto drive penises to keep it in their pants. We need to start berayting them and calling them down! A girl who has sex young is a skank a boy is a player! THE BOY IS THE SKANK TOO! It's such a double fucking standard and it drives me INSANE!



Boys risk STD's Girls risk that and Pregnancy. Then they're left with the hard choice to aborting or keeping the child. If they abort they're murderers, if they keep it they're looked down on by society as young unfit Mothers. Meanwhile the Boy is "Such a great guy!" if he pays child support or hangs around! If he doesn't then she has to FIGHT EVERY STEP to prove he's the Father and get support.



It isn't fair, it isn't right! Next time you hear some "player" bragging go up to his face and call him a fucking dirty skank! Call him down and tell him he has angered God and gone against Christianity! Tell him he's ruining the community, making babies who suck up tax dollars!



It always centres around a poor girl who made a choice in her life and is going to have it thrown in her face FOREVER! The guy just goes and pops his dick into the next uncertain girl!



I don't know what else to say but FACK!

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oh and Jamie your post made my day that is the funniest post i have ever read !!
* stands and applauds * lol

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the old version of Degrassi was actually an excellent show that showed both sex and consequence a long with a lot of other things facing teens such as drugs and their consequences , i havent seen much of the new ones but the old ones were far from encouraging kids to have sex.

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Quoting Nichole:

I am actually visiting my family for a few days cause I don't live in the same state as they do and after I posted my last reply I started to watch the television with my youngest sister and no wonder why children are having sex. Does anyone else see what is on television nowadays??? She is watching Degrassi, has anyone seen it? It's on the N which is a teen television channel. It is all about sex from what she tells me. The show has all teens in it. I don't think this is educational for our youth to be watching. Does anyone else agree?


degrassi is a canadian made show and no it isnt all about sex it is about a variety of issues facing teens in todays world. they do not glamorize things they try to make it reality. yes there is consequenses of sex on some of the shows, In the old degrassi series a guy has sex unprotected and gets HIV, a girl has sex gets pregnant and keeps the baby and it shows how hard life is and what you have to give up, another gets pregnant and has an abortion and it shows how hard having an abortion was . it deals with what happens when you take drugs, in the old series a guy takes acid and jumps off of a bridge while high, he lived but was permanantly brain damaged and had the mind of a 6 year old. he had to be institutionalized for the rest of his life. they deal with anorexia/bulimia, street racing, theft, murder, gang violence, date rape, protesting, politics and teens, divorce of parents, gender identity, homosexuality, mental disorders like bi polar ect ect ect and the list goes on.



degrassi is a great show that can help a lot of teens, maybe if you actually watch it both the old and new series you would agree that it is one of the better shows on tv for them

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I started having sex at 15 I was young and dumb and I got ended up getting pregnant at age 16 had my son at 17, Thinking back on it now no I dont think it was the smartest thing but hell my son saved my life before i got pregnant I was skipping school not caring about my future, when I got pregnant with him I got my diploma and finished school and I work to support him and my daughter, I am a single mother cuz I have major problems with their father but I dont have snotty nose kool aid face babies, my kids are always well dressed, well behaved and my son is very gifted and my daughter will be starting Pre K in Aug. I believe in my case that my kids have made me a stronger person, and I would murder my daughter if she has sex at a young age, because of what I went through...

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I had sex for the first time at 17 with a guy I had been with for a little over a year. I must say I was not impressed! After a few tries I still wasn't impressed so that was the end of that. I mostly wanted to see what all the fuss was about, lol! Teenagers (or adults) should not have sex unless they're able to handle the consquences, no matter what they are. I realize that "accidents happen", but there's too many birth control options for that to be an excuse anymore. I was on the pill for over 4 years before I got off to get pregnant on purpose and I never had an accident, even though I would hope for one, lol! I realize that nothing but abstinence is 100% effective, but if you get pregnant 4 different times on 4 different birth controls like my SIL did, you either have some really bad luck or are doing something wrong!

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Quoting Jen:

I don't know if anyone has gone this route yet, but I'm a mother of a little girl and I have thought of the day that she becomes a teenager. I don't like the idea of teenagers having sex, but we all know it happens and we all know that it is getting harder and harder to stop kids from having sex. I personally did not have sex until I was 18 (I'm 22 now) and was only with one guy before my husband. I know that I wanted to wait until I was married because I grew up Catholic and that's what you do no questions asked. It was very hard to wait. I wanted to sooo.... bad, but hey it happened. I don't regret it or I wouldn't have my daughter today. Now my husband and I could have been better about protection, but again I wouldn't have my little girl yet lol.

Anyway I know that one day my daughter is going to come to me and tell me that she is ready to have sex. I will try my best to defer her decision, but if she thinks in her heart that is the best decision for her, I will make sure we take the proper measures to get her on birth control and explain to her that actions do have consequences and you will have to deal with them if and when they arise. I obviously won't be condoning or encouraging her to have sex, but will at least help her with anything that might happen if she does. In the back of my mind I will be freaking out like every other mother of teenagers, fearing what could happen to their babies, but we all know the facts and unfortunately we can't ignore them.


Girl, my daughter just turns two in october and I think about things like this all the time. One thing that helped me when I was a teen honestly was not questioning if my parents or God or friends would think it was wrong, but "how will I feel telling my children this in 20 years"? Believe it or not, it worked for me. I didn't want to have to confess to my child that I started having sex at 13 or was hooked on cocaine for 5 years and that helped me not be so wild. I thought when my 14 year old comes to me for the sex talk, I need to be able to tell her why and how I waited. But yes, I agree with you. I would much rather my child come to me first and instead of me lock her up and throw away the key, give her the facts and make her see the responsibilities. I seriously think I will take her to the maternity ward at the hospital every year from the time she turns 12 so that she can see the babies and it will be REAL to her.

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I don't know if anyone has gone this route yet, but I'm a mother of a little girl and I have thought of the day that she becomes a teenager. I don't like the idea of teenagers having sex, but we all know it happens and we all know that it is getting harder and harder to stop kids from having sex. I personally did not have sex until I was 18 (I'm 22 now) and was only with one guy before my husband. I know that I wanted to wait until I was married because I grew up Catholic and that's what you do no questions asked. It was very hard to wait. I wanted to sooo.... bad, but hey it happened. I don't regret it or I wouldn't have my daughter today. Now my husband and I could have been better about protection, but again I wouldn't have my little girl yet lol.

Anyway I know that one day my daughter is going to come to me and tell me that she is ready to have sex. I will try my best to defer her decision, but if she thinks in her heart that is the best decision for her, I will make sure we take the proper measures to get her on birth control and explain to her that actions do have consequences and you will have to deal with them if and when they arise. I obviously won't be condoning or encouraging her to have sex, but will at least help her with anything that might happen if she does. In the back of my mind I will be freaking out like every other mother of teenagers, fearing what could happen to their babies, but we all know the facts and unfortunately we can't ignore them.

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Quoting Dana:



Quoting Nichole:

I am actually visiting my family for a few days cause I don't live in the same state as they do and after I posted my last reply I started to watch the television with my youngest sister and no wonder why children are having sex. Does anyone else see what is on television nowadays??? She is watching Degrassi, has anyone seen it? It's on the N which is a teen television channel. It is all about sex from what she tells me. The show has all teens in it. I don't think this is educational for our youth to be watching. Does anyone else agree?






I agree. i don't know how I'm going to handle my 13 year old (ya know 11 years from now LOL) dressing and dancing like Britney Spears and Hannah Montana. Now, they don't even edit on the radio anymore. I literally can't listen to the radio with my daughter in the car. I have to put on one of her cd's like kids bop or whatever because I don't want her hearing and REPEATING cuss words. Sex sells so they say. So now EVERYTHING is about sex.





I know..I just couldnt believe the show my sister was watching, she is 16. She watches all the teens shows and they are all about sex anymore. Jeez, when I first became a teen I was still playing with barbie. lol.

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Quoting Nichole:

I am actually visiting my family for a few days cause I don't live in the same state as they do and after I posted my last reply I started to watch the television with my youngest sister and no wonder why children are having sex. Does anyone else see what is on television nowadays??? She is watching Degrassi, has anyone seen it? It's on the N which is a teen television channel. It is all about sex from what she tells me. The show has all teens in it. I don't think this is educational for our youth to be watching. Does anyone else agree?



I agree. i don't know how I'm going to handle my 13 year old (ya know 11 years from now LOL) dressing and dancing like Britney Spears and Hannah Montana. Now, they don't even edit on the radio anymore. I literally can't listen to the radio with my daughter in the car. I have to put on one of her cd's like kids bop or whatever because I don't want her hearing and REPEATING cuss words. Sex sells so they say. So now EVERYTHING is about sex.

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Quoting Amanda:



Quoting Jamie:

Ok you say having sex at 16 is not respondsible um how else would you define stupidity, not being responsible, duh same thing different word. Its flat out nasty and disgusting, also 2 words that means the same thing. i dont care if you have sex at 16 with one person or more, your a skanky slut for giving in. How many times have you seen girls at that age in love with this boy one week and in love with another next week. All the times but guess what they give it up because its "love" they dont know what love is. Quit trying to be grown up at 16 your not. my new campain slogan "Save the pussy"






stupidity is lack of intellectual acuity while irresponsibility is  the trait of lacking a sense of responsibility and not feeling accountable for your actions, soooo i view them differently, i would never call someone stupid but i can say having sex at a young age no matter what kinds of protection used is irresponsible.  and as i am reading on this thread it looks like many of us who did have sex at a young age also agree it wasn't the best decision






 






i am tempted to go make "Save the pussy 2009" t-shirts made, hilarious






Seriously...check out shirt.woot.com and you can make your own T-Shirts. I bet you'd make a fortune!!! !LMAO