Breast Feeding

Carla - posted on 11/13/2012

1) Look up LAM in La Leche League forums. It worked for us!

2} Although, I have heard that every woman's body reacts differently, I got rid of my baby weight in a month or two with breastfeeding, then lost extra, with both my kids. I started out 161 with first and went up to 180, then down to 150 by the time I was pregnant with second (and still breastfeeding). Gained 19 pounds with him and then lost that plus 17 more. (150, 169, 133). Don't know what will happen now with third baby. :) Hoping the same. My advice is to not stress about it, because I didn't know/notice until my pants stopped fitting, and I think the lack of stressing over it contributed greatly as well.

Alana - posted on 03/25/2011

for the birthcontrol talk to your doctor.. i use a iud for birth control because the pill and shots are have so many side effects and if im not mistaken since its not a medication its safe for breast feeding.. I had my daughter when i was 17 and i still have a lil babyfat *cuz i didnt exercise or eat healthy but i can fit in those favorite jeans once again (took me a while hehe) good luck wish you the best enjoy every moment!!

i've known girls who months later were back to normal figure (but they did go to the gym!!)

Hannah - posted on 03/25/2011

The Depo-provera shot has worked like a dream for me. No monthly visits from mother nature in almost 6 months. As for the pouch, I gained 30 pounds while pregnant and it was gone by 2 months postpartum, and I had a c-section.

Melissa - posted on 03/22/2011

Pouch- with my first 2 kids I gained over 100lbs.. I breastfeed both of them. With my first daughter I was back in my jeans within 2 mo. With my son my weight dropped within the first 4 months.. I think it is way easy to loose your weight with your first child.. I have 3 kids now and my last baby has been my hardest to loose the weight with. But I also had a C-section with him and gained 60-70lbs with him.. As for the birth control talk to your doctor about it.. They know what kinds to put you on with nursing. I dont remember which one I was on. But they will know the best way.. Good luck and Congrats on your first baby

Mary Renee - posted on 03/17/2011

I didn't use birth control pills till I got my period back (except for pull-out - not totally effective, but if you're exclusively breastfeeding you only have .02% chance of getting pregnant before you get your period back) and then once my period was back and I knew I was fertile I first did the Depo Shot (because it's progestone only) and I had a bad reaction.

So then I got the mini-pill (progestone only) and I LOVE it. I didn't have breakthrough bleeding like I did on Depo, and since the mini-pill doesn't have estrogen, it won't decrease your milk supply. The important thing to remember is STAY AWAY FROM ESTROGEN... it can decrease your supply and be passed in to your milk and to your baby.

That said - I wouldn't use any hormonal birth control until your supply is established. You shouldn't even have sex for the first 6-8 weeks so don't go on any birth control before then, obviously. If you can give yourself a break, let your hormones settle on your own.

THAT said, I was always fairly slender, and know a lot about diet, nutrition and exercise and it took my 6-7 months to loose the baby weight! And that was after I had tried 1800 calorie diets for weeks (you have to have at LEAST 1800 calories while breastfeeding) and exercising 3 times a week for an hour and a half each time.

I didn't have the kangaroo pouch for that long though. I mean, my stomach was back to "normal" for other people I guess, by four weeks, but I wasn't back in my prepregnancy jeans till 7 months post-partum and I really really worked at it. Some people are different. My grandma slipped those things right back on but that was back before they knew you shouldn't smoke during pregnancy.

Alicia - posted on 03/17/2011

i had the depo shot put on 30lbs and bled straight for the 6months i was on it, not fun. but i have mirena and i have had no complications.

Talia - posted on 03/17/2011

Just a warning about the depo shot... If you go with that, DON'T get it right away. You won't be having sex for at least a couple weeks after your body's been through that ayway, right?! My girlfriend got the shot right in the hospital... and her milk just would not come in at all after that. It was really sad for both her and her child, since she'd been so set on breastfeeding :(.

My period actually took 13 months to come back while I breastfed. That being said... I'd learned that using condoms in combination with a spermicide is AS effective as the birth control pill (ie about 97%). Not wanting to risk the hormones, or what happened to my friend... I decided to stick with that until I started menstruating again. Of course... I never did quite make that switch lol. Tried a few different types of 'the pill' but they all seem to have bad side-effects with me, and my doctor is stubborn about that being "the safest" :P.

Shalonda - posted on 03/17/2011

Wow alot of moms have respond but i just had a baby last week and i'm breastfeeding i tired to breastfreed with my first child didn't work out that good. I would suggest that you get a breast pump cause sometimes they don't latch on. Also there is a birth control that they insert in your arm that is safe for you to still breast feed. The mirena is also safe.

Joy - posted on 03/17/2011

I don't know about the first question. My milk dried up before my 6 week postpartum check up, so I was right back on birth control at 8 weeks. As for the second question, it all depends on how much you want it to go back down. You are going to have to work at it to get it to thin out. Yes breast feeding will help you loose it faster and easier. But there will be a time when you are not breast feeding, and your diet and how much you exercise will play a part in it. You may not get rid of it entirely, it is one of those things that will be there to remind you of the joy and pain that you went through bringing your child into this world.

Bri - posted on 03/16/2011

I was on the pill with my 1st child breastfeeding, but I was so busy, exhausted, forgetful, that I didn't take it very well and ended up preggo again..oops. With our second baby I'm on the depo shot and it has no side effects and works great for me cuz I only have to get it every 3 months. It also has no effect with my producing enough milk, I make plenty. Also with my 1st baby, I ended up losing 10 more pounds than what I was before I even got pregnant so it was amazing. I got to buy jeans in a smaller size, and for me I think it only took a few months too. I wasn't working out like crazy, just walks and keeping busy with the baby. Hope things turn out great for you...just don't stress..it will all be fine!

Katie - posted on 03/16/2011

there are birth controls out there that are low in estrogen and your OB should tell you which ones are ok for breast feeding women. as far as the belly is concerned it depends on how much exersice you have done and will be doing while you're pregnant and after you have your baby. with my first one I walked everywhere so I was smaller after I had my baby then what I was before I had her, and then with my youngest I didn't look like I had even had a baby a month after I had her, and then after getting the depo shot (birth control) I blew up so don't get it even if you don't like taking the pill everyday. one of the side effects of the depo shot is weight gain which I wasn't told by my ob or the nurse. so just a few things to think about during your last days of pregnancy and after your birth, I hope it helps.

Jan - posted on 03/16/2011

Oh yeah it took me about 2 months with both kids to be back to my pre-prego body.

Jan - posted on 03/16/2011

You should drop the weight pretty quick just dont diet right off it could affect your milk production. just eat a balanced diet and drink tons of water.
As for birthcontrol we use condoms. If you try a hormone birth controlwatch your milk and if it drops stop right away. I've had 2 friends start birthcontrol that the dr said was safe and were dry in just a day or two.
Good luck

Danielle - posted on 03/16/2011

We used condoms and The mini pill later on, my baby pouch disappeared really quick, by 6 week check I was in my old jeans and probably sooner but was too scared to try them on

Mary - posted on 03/10/2011

1. I'm on the minipill
2. depends on the person, with my first it was less than a week, with my second i came home in pre preggo jeans. i still have a little jiggle at 11 months post but i haven't been working on it like i could be. just eat healthy, drink plenty and go for walks starting out and things will be peachy. :)

Julie - posted on 03/09/2011

Yes - you WILL wear those jeans again ... Hey, blow up a balloon and see that it will never be EXACTLY the same right?
GOOD FOR YOU FOR BREASTFEEDING - BREAST IS BEST ... that burns calories and helps you get down to your normal weight quicker... (no ton the top tho!)
;o)
You will be giving your baby SO MANY immune defenses by breastfeeding - you never have to worry about carrying or heating up a bottle, etc.,
If I had all of my babies to do over again I would nurse until 2 years old - seriously!
:o)
ENJOY! It sounds as though you are well on your way to being a good mommie!
♥

Kori - posted on 03/09/2011

I was in my skinny jeans 2 weeks after baby even though during pregnany I gained 60lbs! I lost 13 when my water broke and 16 when baby came with all the other junk in there :P My chest size also went for a b to a c so add some weight there! So you could be in your fave jeans again soon!! Good Luck with the new addition!!

Jaymi - posted on 03/09/2011

Katie all very good questions. I was back in my jeans pretty quickly w/ help from breast feeding. water water water and walk walk walk!!! The birth control I don't know BUT your Doc should be able to recommend some options. FYI I breast fed for 18mnths and was smaller then I was before baby. Good Luck!! I know your excited to have your body back just don't let it take over ENJOY your lil mircle :)

Allison - posted on 03/08/2011

Lexi Crawford, have you ever tried Arbonne Re9 Body Firming Cream, it is great for stretch marks and the belly/pouch, but it only works with exercise too. I'm in total love with the stuff.

Katelyn - posted on 03/08/2011

losing the weight really depends on how much weight you gain during pregnancy, with my daughter i only gained 28 lbs and if it wasnt for the swelling from delivery i could have walked out of the hospital in the jeans i was wearing before i got pregnant, with my son i gained a lot more and he is 18 months and im still not as small as i used to be... everybody is different on this tho so you really cant know how you are going to be until it happens, i went on the pill when my daughter was 3 months old (alesse is a very small dose pill) with no side affects to my milk production, i waited until my son was a year before going on birth control this time because of other probelms and wanting mirena IUS.. but my sister in law got her mirena put in when her son was 3 months and had no problems breast feeding and kept it up no problem until she weened him at her convenience at 9 months:)

Sammie - posted on 03/08/2011

There is no "general rule" for how you will lose weight after baby. It comes down to you, what you do and what you eat. I put on 30 kg with baby #1, was 1 kg heavier than pre pregnancy at 6 weeks and then by the time she was 1 I had put 25kg back on! Baby #2 was delivered 4 weeks ago, I was 93.3kg at delivery and am now 78kg. This time around I'm already running daily (c-section delivery both times) and dancing and eating much much healthier.

I can't help you with the belly thing, as 2 c sections and not natural delivery. That said however, my belly sags something chronic, joys of the ceasers. You go from a big stretched belly to a flat belly that just hangs off you! :( At least with the "kangaroo pouch" it will go back down naturally and properly ;)

Synthia - posted on 03/08/2011

I have the implanon and I have not had any problems with it. I have been breastfeeding my son for about 9 months and I have always "overweight" since I hit puberty but I lost weight when I was prego and I am still losing weight. Congrats on your first.

Ashleigh - posted on 03/08/2011

I have ParaGuard. As long as you don't use hormonal birth control (which can reduce milk supply) you're probably good. As far as the pouch...dunno. Too long ago to remember.

Keara - posted on 03/08/2011

for the birth control, the general recommendation is the mini-pill, i can't remember the official name for it but the dr's will know what you mean... and as for going back to your pre-baby size, it all depends on you... how the labour goes, how the first few months with baby go, etc... breastfeeding does take up a huge amount of extra calories per day but if you aren't eating properly its not gonna make a difference... and your body will probably never be the same again, thats one thing you are just going to have to accept, theres no getting around it... for me, I was back into the same size i was pre-pregnancy in no time at all... maybe 3 months tops, but i had a c-section so i didn`t try my jeans on again until i was fully healed cuz it hurt to have them rub against the incision... however, my hips are wider now and my butt is bigger and its not going away and my jeans don't fit the same way they used to and i ended up buying new ones, not for the style but for the comfort... that was a shocker, when i realized i bought and wear "Mom Jeans"... i still have my good jeans for special outings and stuff but these ones are good for day to day wear, when i'm not just wearing my jammies... lol... anyways, i guess what i'm trying to say is don't get your hopes up too high just incase it doesn't happen right away, or it takes a little extra work Good Luck and congrats!!

Mel - posted on 03/08/2011

My doctor prescribed a pill that is safe to use while breastfeeding. As for my stomach, I can't really remember but i don't think it was too long. Everyone is different though. Good Luck

Emily - posted on 03/08/2011

I was in my favorite jeans after 3 months and Kangaroo pouch was gone completely by 6-8 months. You can do it!

Meaghan - posted on 03/08/2011

Hey soon to be mom:) Breastfeeding is awesome!! Its hard at first, but dont give up. Go to a support group like Le Leache Leauge for support. You will need lots of support during the first weeks of breastfeeding. Have you read "The Womanly Art of Breastfeeding" ? Its a great book with lots of info and questions you may have. As for the weight, it will melt off in no time with breastfeeding. You burn 500 calories a day with breastfeeding, but you also may crave lots of food since your body is making milk. Just eat and drink to hunger and thirst, dont worry too much about calories yet. As for exercising its a very great tool to help with post patrtum depression. I find it very helpful, beacuse its time for myself and it makes me feel good. You can get work out DVDs like Lindsy Brins "Moms into fitness" she has a prenatal boot camp that is awesome for moms who had a baby recently or in the past. There is also a group of moms who get together called "Stroller Strides" if you look it up you can see if you have it in your community. They work out together with thier baby or babies in thier strollers. I go to it and love it. I have 3 kids in 4 years, and by just breastfeeding, workng out, and not dieting (but not eating junk food) I have kept a healthy weight and have energy for my kids!!! For birth control there are so many options. I hear good reviews on the mirena (especially for breastfeeding mothers) me personally I do natural family planning. The best thing you can do is do your research and make informed discsions!! :) Good luck with everything!

Stephanie - posted on 03/08/2011

i'm currently breastfeeding my second child. I am on Camila birthcontrol. It's a progesteren only pill (however that is spelled). My doc told me I could take that, get the depo shot, or an IUD. He told me that I could take a regular birth control but it might decrease my supply. As my child was 9 lb 10 oz at birth I need all the milk I can get. I found with both my children the major fat came off really quick, but didn't loose the last 10 lbs or so til later on, But I was in my regular jeans at 2 months or so.

Sarah - posted on 03/08/2011

i used the mini pill. the doctor said it's effective up to 6months or until u get ur first period. I only bf for 3 months. be careful of bc that has estrogen. it can dry your milk. as far as the "kangaroo pouch" it depends on how active you are after you have the baby and how much weight you gained during pregnancy. for me, i gained weight while bf. so i am working harder to lose it... lol but take the six weeks and relax after that you can start to work out again. and you may go back to your normal size after. each person's body is different and responds different. bf is good for you and is supposed to help you lose the weight but again depends on your body response. I gained weight with my son too. don't worry about your baby weight. it just means you gave life to a beautiful lil girl or boy. it will work it's way off.

Corinna - posted on 03/08/2011

I was very sick the whole pregnancy so I didn't gain more than about 12 pounds the whole time. I was back in my skinny jeans by 2 weeks! I am also on the Depo shot. It seemed like a good alternative to the mini pill without having to remember to take it everyday, I tend to be forgetful when I'm sleep deprived :) Hope this helps!

Laura Zoey - posted on 03/08/2011

Be careful about the Mirena.
It says quite clearly that one side effect is you can lose your fertility. Meaning you get the Mirena and then once kits out you are infertile.
It also warns you that it can cause you to loose a pregnancy. Mirena thins out the lining of the uterus and if it fails to prevent an egg from being fertilized, the thin uterus will cause the embryo to die and disintegrate into a period. Actually kiang types of hormonal birth control thin the uterus. If it says it does that, that means it is going to stop you from conceiving if it can, but if you do conceive it will also abort the embryo.

Amanda - posted on 03/08/2011

I used the mini pill, no side effects except it wasn't very effective for me, I fell pregnant again when my son was 8 months old.

I was one of those lucky ones that with both my pregnancies I was all baby and wore my prepregnancy clothes through out both my pregnancies. I was the same size during and after both my pregnancies as I was before I fell pregnant (if anything I was smaller after my son - baby number 1 - than I had ever been)
The only thing I found was that my stomach wobbles abit more than before I had my kids but then I always had a slight pot belly.

Lexi - posted on 03/07/2011

I don't know anything about the BC, I'd just ask you're doc what is safe. As far as the pouch goes, I think that depends on the person. I have friends that have been nice and flat withing 3-6 months of their delivery. They were in good shape to begin with and started exercising and working out their stomach muscles as soon as possible. Me on the other hand, I wasn't in very good shape to start with and due to a back injury (and some lazyness) I haven't been able to do much of anything to help my stomach get back in shape. I still have a flabby belly/pouch and my son is almost two. I did loose all my baby weight (28lbs) within the first month tho and I attribute that to the breast feeding.

Raquel - posted on 03/07/2011

Depending on how much stretching you have and heredity it can vary. Some women drop the weight almost immediately it took increased activity and diet change, EVERYTHING!LOL.Recently I have noticed a huge drop off and my daughter will be 7 months on the 13th of March

Allison - posted on 03/07/2011

I'm using the Nuva Ring and I'm still breastfeeding my 17 month old daughter. I have three girls 10,4,17months. I exercised throughout my last two pregnancies and even still, and I have nursed them all until a year and bit. My first I didn't exercise during my pregnancy but I did alot of walking and nursing and I was back to my original size. Remember the key is mostly what you eat, just because you decide to nurse, it doesn't mean you can eat junk food. I applaude you for nursing, it's the best thing for your baby.

√v^√v^√♥ - posted on 03/07/2011

I was very very shocked to find out how long it took to get back into my normal pants. I think it depends. I gained quite a bit of weight during my pregnancy as I had lots of back pain and couldn't move. It took me 3-4 months. Problem is, my mom lost like 40lbs after delivery of me, I lost maybe 3 lbs. Figure that out lol Best of luck to you, I bet you'll do better than I did. Just make sure you have good support for breastfeeding as it didn't work out for me. Have people you can ask for help if you need it, because it's a whole new experiance! :)

Brianna - posted on 03/07/2011

Well first that depends on ur body like for me the whole time I was pregnant I only gained 16lbs and was back into my old clothes a few days after having her um as far as birth control talk to your doctor I have the implanon it was put in 2mths after u had her never had a problem and yes I did breast feed also. Good luck

Grace - posted on 03/07/2011

My baby is 4 months old and I still need to lose 10 pounds to get back to my pre-pregnancy weight. I gained 35 pounds when pregnant and had one of those way out there basketball bellies. However I am wearing 3 pairs of my old pants so far, including my favorite pair of jeans so I'm super excited about that. The pants I'm wearing either used to be more lose or they have spandex in them (my fav jeans are 1% spandex) so that helps them stretch out to fit me now! I totally thought I would lose the weight sooner since I'm only breastfeeding and now also exercising and not eating any more than I used to..but oh well at least I'm loosing it slowly.

Belva - posted on 03/07/2011

If you plan on breastfeeding you are sure to fit back in those favorite jeans before your 6 wks checkup. I did. The best birth control is an Mirana IUD. It works great and no effects on the baby.

Arianna - posted on 03/07/2011

After I delivered my son my midwife told me about the "mini-pill" it's a Progesterone only pill and is safe during breast-feeding, however now I am planning for child number 2 I have been doing research on possibly choosing the sex of my child naturally and have come across the book "Taking Charge of Your Fertility" and it talks about charting your cycles for a natural "Birth Control" if you are interested check your library for the book, mine had it and I started reading it then I ordered it off Amazon because it was an outdated copy.

Laura Zoey - posted on 03/07/2011

1. The safest would be a diaphragm, it has no hormones, almost no risks, no side effects, no worries! It's just a piece that you slide inside yourself before sex with a little spermicide on it. You take it out a fee hours after sex and wash it and store it for next time!
Best part about it is there's no side effects, no weight gain, no mood swings, no cramps,
It's got almost no risks, no risk of losing your fertility, no risk of it killing an embryo, no risk of it causing cysts, no risks of bleeding.

And I've been told 9 months to put it on 9 months to take it off. Don't worry too much about the belly, no one looks at your belly when you are holding a beautiful new baby!

Katie - posted on 03/07/2011

With both of my children the week after delivery i was able to fit in my prepregancy jeans. I was 22 and 25. Also I only gained 10lbs. with the first and 11 with the second. Good lucky.

Krystal - posted on 03/06/2011

I went on Mirena after my pregnancy and I was breastfeeding. I lost most of the weight right after delivery and was able to fit right back into most of my pants.

Christine - posted on 03/06/2011

i didn't work out at all due to a tear on my peraneum and i lost darn near all of my belly in about 6-8 weeks just by breast feeding. i could actually see the weight coming off from one day to the next. i know how you feel wanting to get back into your old clothes. i remember feeling like i'd never be thin again. good luck. and remember, at first breast feeding can be tough, but stick with it! it's rewarding in more ways than just losing that post baby belly!



as to the birth control, we just used condoms. i know that there are birth controls out there for breast feeding mothers. but i think it's best to stay away from medication as much as possible while BF. remember, whatever you eat goes into your milk supply.

Amanda - posted on 03/06/2011

i gained 20 lbs and i was in my pre-pregnancy jeans after 2 weeks.

Ashlee - posted on 03/06/2011

I don't know what to tell you about birth control, I refuse to put anything beside healthy foods and prenatals into my body while breastfeeding, but I know there are some out there, you may want to ask your doctor. But I lost my pudge in the first two months, I was back into my zeros before I knew it. Your belly feels so weird when the baby is out, give it a few pokes, I couldn't stop haha But breastfeeding should help you shed the pounds, don't worry, it's not a permanent thing! Good luck!

Melissa - posted on 03/06/2011

Hi recently I gave birth and answer to your first question breast feeding ....You can use the nuva ring which is a great birth control but consult with doc before making a choice. Take your prenatal vitames even after giving birth if breast feeding .. Breast feeding is great for a thousand reasons ...it helps you lose weight . shrinks your uterus faster and much more.. Advice seek out a lactation consultant in your area ...:) it can help . Make sure with breast feeding always watch that they have 6 full diapers at least in the first few months to know that they are getting enough from your breast .. pump if you can to stimulate the flow of milk ( baby can get fussy if not a fast flow or not enough to drink in one feed ) . If you want to only breast feed try to not use bottles baby gets lazy cause feeding of nipple is more work for baby . Last losing weight is all about the person myself I look better now then I did before I was prego ..lost the baby bump right away weird but all depends on the person just like pregnancy is different for every woman after giving birth is the same thing . BREAST FEEDING THOUGH DOES HELP THE WEIGHT LOSS :)!!!! good luck and congrats you'll be so so happy its so amazing the experience

Darci - posted on 03/06/2011

There is only one birth control pill that is safe and it is called the mini pill. It is a low dose of birth control so you are only to take it while nursing once you are done nursing or cutting down to nursing once a day you need to be cautious and use other forms like condoms then when you are completely done nursing you need to get on a new birth control pill or other methods if you prefer. I was on the mini pill and it was great. Its a pill you take every day there is no sugar pill week like most birth controls. Because it is such a low dose of birth control you have to take it every day instead of skipping a week like you normally would. Hope that makes sense. As far as the kangaroo pouch its different for everyone. I went home from the hospital in my same old jeans. Never had a kangaroo pouch I remember the minute after I had my son my gynecologist said oh wow your stomach is almost completely flat. Big complement coming from someone who sees pregnant girls and delivers babies all day every day. By the time my son was 4 weeks I was down to my original weight. By the time he was 5 months I was 15 pounds lighter then before I ever got pregnant and was out buying smaller jeans cuz my old jeans now were 2 sizes too big. It was crazy. I thought my hips and stuff would be bigger after a baby but it was just he opposite. I think it all depends on the person one of my best friends wasn't so lucky it took her almost a year to get down to her normal size and didn't fit into her jeans for a while and she still has some extra skin hanging over so it just depends on you and your genes. I am now pregnant with number 2 and am due in just 4 week and am hoping I will luck out like i did with my first. we will see. Try buying one of those belly bands for after delivery. you can buy them from a store called expected maternity by a brand called belly bandit or try their web site belly bandit.com or motherhood sells a brand like the belly bandit, it does the same thing.Babies R us I think sells a brand like the belly bandit too. The belly band is this super tight band that you put around your waist after delivery and it helps suck you in and helps shrink you faster. I used one and I feel like it helped maybe thats part of why I shrunk so fast. Although I have talked recently with my doc about the bands and he says they are okay to wear and can help a little if tight enough but to only wear one for the first few weeks after having the baby. He says if you wear them too long or work out with them then they can actually be harmful to your muscles and weaken them. But since you cant and wont be doing much the first few weeks of delivery that its okay to wear them.

Shelley - posted on 03/06/2011

I am a mom of four children, I always found it hard to breastfeed and always gave up and pumped after the third month. I would say try it and see how it goes, you might need help from your family nurse on how to get latched on properly. Take it a day at a time, dont get frustrated!! it happens to all of us at one point of having a new baby. As for birth control you need to see your doctor about that but i think breast feeding is a natural birth control!! it take a couple of months for the swelling to go down in your belly and then it all up to you to lose the baby fat!! lol.... Fav jeans are possible but like most of us you got to hit the gym!! congrats on your new baby!! you and your family are truly blessed!!!

Katie - posted on 03/06/2011

The Depo Shot makes me crazy.. I was on it for a couple years (a couple years ago) and the progesterone literally had me on te more extreme emotional rollercoaster ride ever.. that's why I stopped having the injections