Forward facing carseat
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Ashley - posted on 12/14/2010
The most recent research by the American Academy of Pediatrics shows that children should be kept rear-facing as long as possible. In the event of a rear collision, which is the most common by far, it is far safer to have a young child or baby rear-facing as it does not involve the child's head snapping forward as it would if they were forward-facing. Think of how much whiplash hurts your neck! A baby's neck simply can't take the strain, and spinal cord injuries are common with small children, so rear-facing as long as possible is best.
Jennifer - posted on 12/14/2010
Amy D, forward facing is never safer than rear facing. 1 year and 20lbs is the absolute bare minimum, and the AAP recommends that children remain rear facing at least until they are either 2 years old, or until they hit the maximum rear facing weight limit on the convertible car seat (most go up to at least 30 or 35 pounds). forward facing is not something that should be rushed. the longer your child rear faces, the better their chance of survival if they are in a crash.
Chancey - posted on 12/15/2010
No no no! Rear facing is far safer then forward facing and once forward facing harnessing for as long as possible is best. Carseat.org is a great site for references. I dont see why ppl say FF is more confortable. If you have every sat on a chair/stool where you're feet are just dangling you know it gets highly uncomfortable after a bit when your feet start 'falling asleep'. My girls are now both forward facing and both of them sit cross legged and if you ask them why they will both tell you it's more comfortable.
I believe everywhere in the U.S. is one year AND 20 lbs. So if you live in the U.S. you can't legally turn her forward facing. Rear facing is the safest for her and all children for as long as possible. As many others have said 2 years is the current recommendations from the AAP. Do some of your own research before you decide. Many people don't realize what a huge decision this is. My daughter is 19 months. She's 26 lbs and 33 inches. She will be rear facing until she reaches the seat max for rear facing which is 40 lbs. (Yes, it's ok if their feet touch the seat or have to bend a little :)).
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Jodi - posted on 12/26/2010
Jennifer, you are correct about the availability of seats (although it may have changed since my daughter was a baby). My youngest was very small, so I actually rear-faced her until she was about 10 months. I have researched the statistics, and our babies are still safer on our roads than on yours (in general). However, I would very much like for Australia to work towards allowing larger convertible seats to be approved and imported for those parents who would like the option to continue to rear-face, and eventually work towards rear-facing to 12 months at a minimum.
Jennifer - posted on 12/26/2010
i think Australia allowing forward facing at 6 months is sad, and frightening. i very much so hope that your roads are safer than the roads are here in the US. its one thing for Australia to say that babies can forward face at 6 months...it is, in my opinion, completely wrong that they don't even give parents the option to rear face longer...they don't make seats big enough, and they don't allow any seat to be imported that isn't approved by the Aus gov (someone feel free to correct me if i am wrong).
some kids are happy for rear face for many years, some hate it and are honestly happier facing forward but i don't think it should be a decision based solely on that. government laws vary from place to place but the laws of physics are universal and front impact crashes with a forward facing child are devastating.
Sarh - posted on 12/26/2010
I agree 100% with what Laura has said and I don't think she has attacked you, maybe you feel guilty or something about your decision? I can't read anymore of the posts moms put on this thread. Some of them make me sooo very sad for your babies! You may be an amazing driver, but it is the other drivers you need to worry about! Do you really trust someone else not to hit you? I sure the hell would not!
Good bye all! I'm no longer looking on this one, makes me sick to my stomach.
Jodi - posted on 12/26/2010
"But unfortunately in Australia you can't choose a safer seat cuz they don't sell them there and you can't import them legally.
That's the one reason I'd never live in Australia, although I'd really love it there except for that part."
And yet on a per capita basis, we have fewer children injured than in the US......I'm not saying our laws are necessarily right, because I would like to see it changed, BUT, statistically, the death rate of infants is much lower anyway, so your child is actually safer on our roads than on your own. And this single factor of road safety would prevent you from ever wanting to live in Australia, even though your child would be safer overall?
I am just saying that your judgement is only taking one factor (albeit an important one) into account.
Also your comment "Australia has no law about rear facing" is, in fact, incorrect. Our law states 6 months. So there IS a law. It just isn't the same as yours, and not terribly adequate, but it is still a law.
Crystal - posted on 12/26/2010
no need to attack me, i know what my son wants, he waould struggle to sit up n cry cuz it hurt him with the straps so i know very well that he didin like it at all, children do have their own thoughts, and in Australia its just weird to have a child facing backwards for so dam long, they need to be able to see things thay are still safe facing forward otherwise they wouldn let anyone have one let alone drive a car, every tine u get in the var its a chance babies die in the backwards facing position aswell, so i think its up to the mother to make the decision for their own child. my son loves the car and was even happier facing forward its my decision i know whats right for my boy.
Merry - posted on 12/26/2010
Australia has no law about rear facing, in fact they don't even allow the sale of seats that go big enough.
But here is USA we have seats available that can be rear facing until 4-5 years old.
Still moms don't choose safety over convenience all the time. But unfortunately in Australia you can't choose a safer seat cuz they don't sell them there and you can't import them legally.
That's the one reason I'd never live in Australia, although I'd really love it there except for that part.
In sweeden they have seats big enough for rear facing even longer, like up to 55 lbs or like 5-6 years.
Incidentally sweeden rarely has a young child die in a crash.while in America, we have one year olds breaking their necks fairly often.
Search 'joel's story' it's a video about a boy who was 18 months, 33 lbs and front facing. He was in a crash and he broke his neck. He almost died, was in surgery for many times, spent a long time in rehab etc.
The law is minimum, not what's safe.
Cigarettes are legal right, doesn't make them safe.
Merry - posted on 12/26/2010
How would he hate it? Can he say, I hate this?
All babies dislike riding in the car sometimes. They never have a thought, I want to forward face, until you put them forward!
My son is a most two, he rode rear facing a total of four hours today, he fussed here and there, but was mostly happy the whole time!
He couldn't want to face forward, he doesn't know what that would be like.
We can't put thoughts into our kids minds.
They don't want to forward face, they just like the new aspect of facing forward.
But hey, they won't be so happy with a broken neck, or dead.
I'll risk him fussing rear facing instead of risking his life.
Simple choice I think.
Sarah - posted on 12/26/2010
Front facing verses rear facing has to do with safety. It's the law of inertia. If an object is going in a direction it will continue in that direction. In other words if the baby is rear-facing and you stop the babies head will go backwards toward the seat. If the baby is front-facing and you stop the baby's head will go forward. Thus a child under the age of one is safer rear-facing, cause a child under the age of 1 doesn't have a strong enough neck to sustain a hard whip lash forward if the breaks are applied too hard! I hope this is a help to someone!
Destinee - posted on 12/24/2010
I didn't know anything about it-it wasn't something I'd thought to check on when I was pregnant, and until my son started to outgrow his carseat and I saw this post, it still wasn't something I'd thought of! LOL I'm sure you're right though
Sarh - posted on 12/24/2010
Tasha, I sent you a message as this is not the place for this discussion. The baby food post, I was not posting anything against you, I was replying to the original question asked by the person who posted the conversation. I apologize for the misunderstanding/confusion!
Sarh - posted on 12/24/2010
Didn't mean to "ruin" your experience. I think you took what I said the wrong way and I don't remember commenting on anything else you posted/commented on....
I don't see any harm in what I said, it was a simply question and statement.
Shannon - posted on 12/24/2010
not sure where you are from but in Ontario the law says that the child must weigh 20 lbs and be over the height for the rearfacing seat (mine says 29 inches) and at least a year old. So for me my daugter is 14 months old, and 29.5 inches tall so she has out grown her infant carrier, but only weighs 18 lbs so she has upgraded to a convertable carseat that is still rearfacing until she gains 2lbs.
Crystal - posted on 12/23/2010
When I went to the firehall to have my carseat installation inspected, they said they preferred the carseat to be rear facing for aslong as possible. Your girl is still pretty small I would stick with rear facing personally. My daughter is about 25lbs born sept 2009 and I still have her facing rear.
The law is that they must be at least one year *and* at least 20 pounds. That said- the AAP is now recommending that children remain rearfacing until age 2 or to the weight limits of their car seats. Rearfacing is 500% safer for children, especially those under 2.
We kept my son rearfacing until he was nearly 3 and reached the 33lb limit on his seat, if I had known about the safety benefits earlier I would have been sure to get him a seat with a higher rearfacing weight limit.
American Academy of Pediatrics recommendation: http://aapnews.aappublications.org/cgi/c...
More info on rearfacing: http://www.car-safety.org/rearface.html
Merry - posted on 12/22/2010
There's minimum requirements, like 1 year and 20 lbs.
But who wants to only reach the minimum on their Childs safety?
Let's try to be more of maximum limit moms, not just the minimum safety moms.
Our kids deserve to be safe as possible, not just barely legal.
The maximum safety limits vary seat to seat but at very minimum all convertible seats go to about 35 lbs rear facing.
So there's no safe reason to forward face before the absolute maximum limits.
It's simply more convenient for moms, but convenience can't overrule safety.
Sarh - posted on 12/22/2010
Catriona I think you should look at the videos that were posted!! Here is the link to the CONVERTABLE Car seat that my son will continue to rear face in once he has out grown the infant car seat which sounds like the one you are talking about. http://www.evenflo.com/product.aspx?id=3... This car seat can rear face up to 45lbs and forward face up to 65lbs! YES their legs will be bent up!! My daughter was and still is huge for her age! She was rear facing until she was about 2.5yrs old. She will be 5 yrs old next month at her 4yr well check she was 60lbs!
Are you aware of how much force is in a car crash?!?!? ADULTS get whiplash while forward facing can you imagine what would happen to an infant?! WOW!
Catriona - posted on 12/22/2010
I dont know what kind of rear facing car seats ye use but my son was in a front facing seat at 8 months, his legs were all bent up in the rear facing one and he wasnt a bit comfortable (he was a very very big baby) our rear facing seat said up to 9kg and he was well above this when he went into front facing one. Once their heads and backs are supported i think thats all that really matters???
Shannon - posted on 12/22/2010
My son rear faced until he was 2 1/2 and 35 lbs. My daughter is 16 mo and 21 lbs and still rear facing. Even at 2 their spines are not strong enough to handle a front impact crash and their head can become internally decapitated( where the spinal cord snaps at the cervical spine but everything else stays intact)
Nicole - posted on 12/21/2010
I thought the current recommendations were for children to stay rear-facing until they were 1 year AND at the very LEAST 20+lbs.
I found some links:
I will be leaving my 14 month old rear facing until he is AT LEAST 35 pounds, but that is just me. Why fix something that isn't broken? is how I feel about it. He does have to bend his knees, but he doesn't seem to mind and I feel better knowing that he is safer.
Merry - posted on 12/21/2010
Please don't! Front facing is a step down in safety. You don't want to put your child at risk of death. She is safer rear facing.
Eric is 30 lbs 34 inches and 20 months.
HAPPILY rear facing. He can see out both side windows and out the back window. He bends his legs.
U til your child can verbally say to you, "I want to forward face" there is no reason to do it.
Eventhen I plan on explaining to Eric that I love him and want him safe.
He will be rear facing until 45 lbs approx 5 years.
Sunshine kids radian xtsl is the BeSt seat available in the USA.
Tiffany - posted on 12/21/2010
American Academy of Pediatrics recommends children stay rear facing as long as possible. It's much safer this way. I would love for my daughter to be able to face forward and see more and be involved more, but her safety comes first. My daughter is 14 months and weighs 23 lbs and is 33"...so while she sometimes has to keep her legs bent a little, I would much rather that then taking a chance on what could happen in an accident. Also most states are 1 year and/or 20 lbs so your daughter is still tiny weight wise. I would personally hold off as long as possible, but at least until your daughter reaches 20 lbs. We have the Safety First Complete Air Convertible Car seat and it's one of the safest car seats there are. It is a bit big to keep rear facing, so you would just have to make sure it fits before buying. Hope this helps. =) Good Luck.
Karen - posted on 12/20/2010
My son is small for his age (he was a premie) and this summer I asked my doctor about moving him forward becasue it was so hot and he was not getting any air circulation so every time we took him out of the car he was sweating all over. The doctor said it is more about head control than weight and told me to go for it. I moved him to forward facing at about 15 months and 17 pounds and it was the best thing we could have done. He got air and was able to look around and see his enviorment a lot more than he could when he was rear facing.
Ash - posted on 12/18/2010
I think keep her rear facing as long as possible! It's the safest thing for your daughter! You are putting her at such a bigger risk by putting her forward facing. Forward facing is one of the biggest deaths for babies and toddlers.
Destinee - posted on 12/18/2010
Wow...um, my son is 5 months old and 2 1/2 feet tall and 20 lbs. LOL He's almost outgrown his carseat and we have to buy him another one, probably by the end of next month. I will have to research the laws in my state, as I am unsure of what to do since my son is far above the average size-wish I had some advice for you, but I didn't even know any of this, so I'm glad to have stumbled across your posting! Thanks!
Alecia - posted on 12/18/2010
its a shame that anyone would turn their child around for convience sake. i dnt fnd it difficult at all to get my daughter (15 mnths 24 lbs) in and out of the car and she certianely doest hate RF because thats all she knows. she is more comfortable RF and reclined back and she can see out of the entire back window....doesnt really sound that bad to me!!
do not even consider it until she reaches 20 lbs. seriously that is the minimum to turn them forward it is safer to stay re-facing as long as possible. check out youtube and search car seat crash tests you will see why its better to wait. my son is 16 months and 26 lbs but i still worry he would still be re-facing if our car was big enough to fit his convertable car seat that way.
Kelly - posted on 12/18/2010
Most State Laws will say gotta be a Year old and and at least over 20 or 30 lbs!! So just check with ur baby doctor n I'm sure she can tell ya. But considering she is only 17 1/2 lbs I wouldn't honestly.. My son is 8 month old n weighs 22 lbs my doctor was making sure i was still using a rear facing car seat for his safety!!
Jessica - posted on 12/17/2010
I like rear facing my son is 12 months and weighs 20lbs. I have always heard that rear facing is the safest. But I want to put my son in forward facing because it makes things so much easier to get them in and out. I would suggest talking with your doctor and a local car seat check. Or the DMV
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