Ok.... I've tried EVERYTHING...

Samantha - posted on 07/26/2009 ( 187 moms have responded )

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but my 4 1/2 month old STILL won't sleep through the night! We have a routine for the day and the night, I'm using dark shades, fans (white noise), soothing music, rocking, soothing him back to sleep (which only last for another 20 minutes and then he's up), I put a little rice in with his formula (some moms may disagree with that), I've tried to let him cry it out, but that has never worked..... I'm out of ideas! He started teething at 2 months, could that be the problem?

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Carly - posted on 07/26/2009

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In my opinion, your baby is too young to expect him to "sleep through the night". He needs to be fed ... milk not solids. Whatever formula you are using will provide him with much more nutrition than any cereal or jarred food. When you consider he is growing faster now than he ever will again in his life, it's understandable that he needs to eat very often, including overnight. For a young baby the longest you should expect them to sleep without interruption is about 5 hours and it sounds like your son is coming close to that.

Please do not deny your baby the nutrients and love he needs to grow by leaving him to cry alone at night. All recommendations I have seen on leaving a baby to self soothe state not to do it until at least 6 months. Before that, they NEED you.

Renee - posted on 07/26/2009

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I know you are doing the best you can so try not to get frustrated, which is probably easier said than done. I agree with the 6 month rule. I have read in a few different places that if you go to them immediatly when they cry for the first 6 months they will be more independent and less fussy/needy in the long run. Supposedly it is because they know you will be there for them, they can trust and depend on you. Many of my friend's children did not sleep through the night until at least one year old. I breastfeed and when/if my baby wakes up in the middle of the night, I nurse him in bed and we fall back to sleep together. He seems to sleep longer when I am there cuddling him.

Kashmir - posted on 07/26/2009

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Try wrapping him up like a burrito the same way the nurses do in the hospital after they're born. I had to wrap my daughter like this for a good 8 months ( and rock her to sleep). Sometimes babies just miss the warmth they traveled in for 9 months before birth. Also, I just had to stretch out her time between naps after a while and keep her busy. Another thing I figured out was that she was used to being up in the middle of the night because I was up in the middle of the night when I was pregnant with her. It didn't help that she was born in the wee hours of the morning! :o) Good luck, Samantha!

Jackie - posted on 07/26/2009

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Just throwing this out there but maybe he still needs to eat in the middle of the night, or just needs you. You can't really FORCE him to sleep all night if you have tried all that you can think of. I am sorry if this offends anyone but he is still a baby, he is not grown, and that might mean that he actually does need something when he cries he isnt just trying to make you crazy.

Tiffany - posted on 07/26/2009

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Maybe if you try giving your baby a warm bath before bed it will relax him and help him fall asleep more easily. Johnson and Johnson make a soothing nighttime baby wash and lotion that also worked for my kids when they were younger. Hope it works for you. Good luck. :)

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Barbara - posted on 12/20/2012

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Sounds like you might be putting him down to early and what about his naps? If he has a late afternoon nap he might not be tired when you put him down. If he gets a nap say around 2 and sleeps to 4 then if you put him down at 7 this would be too early for him. I would rearrange his schedule to see what works best. I brought a mini food processor and puree veggies, fruits and some yogurt and gave it to my babies and they loved it I liked this because I knew what I was putting into their stomachs. Try a different schedule, try the tablets for teething and try a food processor for the baby. The motto is try try and try again. Good luck

Amanda - posted on 08/02/2009

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Hylands teething tablets work great! Also I give my baby a bath in Johnson & Johnson's bedtime bath and use the lotion and powder to get him ready for bed. I have also heard to give them an extra ounce of formula at the bedtime bottle....my baby just started sleeping through the night a few weeks ago, but we do the same things every night,,, good luck!

Lindsay - posted on 08/02/2009

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Swaddle him in a swaddler! That immediately put my child to sleep and slept through the night completely from 3 months until 8 months, then he just slept through the night without the swaddler. Warm baths before bed also help some but not all, my son was the exact opposite a bath did not soothe him it made him more alert and excited. If he is teething try giving him a couple of Hyland's teething tablets, they are homeopathic and do not contain chemicals, and they work. I would not use Oregel it has been proven to make a baby's gums less soft and make teeth coming through even harder. And as for the rice in the bottle, skip that and just start feeding him a single grain cereal, rice cereal's are empty calories so try an oatmeal or a wheat cereal so he is getting nutrients as well as a full tummy, it will take a few weeks for him to get use to the spoon fed idea but don't give up. Also a later bed time 8 seems much too early if you want him to sleep through the night gradually up the time 30 minutes for a few days and see how it works.

MIchele - posted on 08/02/2009

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Have you tried barley cereal in the bottle instead of rice cereal? try that and try not to give him too many naps during the day eeither or just shorter naps

Jackie - posted on 08/02/2009

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Our daughter gave us a real hard time to until a friend of mine mentioned a book called the happiest baby on the block It was great we found out that my daughter wanted to be swaddled & rocked to sleep we also found out that she liked white noise but it had to be the vacuum cleaner noise so I ordered a cd form the colicshop.com that played vacuum cleaner noise for 60 mins

User - posted on 08/02/2009

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i was one of the lucky moms where my son was sleeping through the nights at just the age of 6 weeks :O ... Our routine consists of a bath and bottle before bed... I find that giving him a bath before bed really tires him out..just recently though our son's been getting up during the night and I've noticed that he's getting a new tooth in... it could be that your little is teething... but good luck! hope the sleep fairy spreads her wings for you and your little one!

Theresa - posted on 08/02/2009

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I don't have any answers except to say I have empathy for you, its rough to be sleep deprived, it makes you less patient with your beautiful little bundle..have grace on yourself...in a month, things will be different.

Sara - posted on 08/02/2009

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My son wouldnt sleep through the night on a daily basis till he was 4 but something that heled was tiping his bed so it was at a angle.

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It's probably the teeth, but my daughter didn't sleep through the night until she was at least nine months and she did't get her first tooth until she was almost nine months. I was so used to getting up every night that it scared me for a while when she first started sleeping most of the night. He may just want to be near you. If he was most active at night when you were pregnant then that may be why he wants to stay up at night.

Sam - posted on 08/02/2009

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Hi Samantha,



Have you tired Good Night milk? that worked for my friends little boy as he was the same waking up every 20 minutes and crying at 2am, 4am and 6am just a thought or if you put ruck in his milk that may help. Hope this helps :-)



Sam

User - posted on 08/02/2009

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Sorry, I havent read all the replies.

Have you thought of trying a dream feed? It is where you feed the baby while they are still asleep. If they regularly wake at 12 midnight, maybe around 11.30 / 11.45, try feeding without waking. It might help him then stay asleep longer.

**Goodluck**

Genna - posted on 08/01/2009

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It sounds to me as tho you maybe over stimulating him and he's in a routine that he wakes a 12 and then every 3 hours. Have you tried swadling? Maybe a clock in his room. Experts say the ticking reminds the baby of a human heart. Another trick is to go for a long run or exercise a sweat up and the put the t-shirt you're wearing in his bed so your sent is with him.

There is a controlled cry technique I used with my son altough he was older. Let baby cry for 1 min, go in and settle him without talking, leave the room and let him cry for 2 mins, do this up to 5 mins at each intervil, it may take a while and you may need to step outside if you can't stand baby crying, take a stop watch with you.

I hope that helps!

Good luck xox

Katie - posted on 08/01/2009

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I have a 8 week old son and he only wakes up once through the night. I don't use rice in his formula. I make sure that he is up mostly throughout the day and never let him sleep... for more than 2 hrs at a time during the day! Feeding them during the day more frequently like every 3 hrs... would make him more full so when he is ready to sleep he will stay asleep.another thing that helps my son is his nuk(some may not agree) He only gets it when its bedtime. Once he is asleep i take it right out! See if he will take a nuk???? Im soo glad I got my son into this routine now b/c I would be right where you are when he is that old! Give it a try and let me know how it works!!! I hope it does... you need your alone time too!

Ashlee - posted on 08/01/2009

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ok let me start with every baby is different, we all know that. My experience so far with my little one (now 9 months) has been that we co-slept for the first 6 months, then started him sleeping on his stomach and that worked. our ped said no "sleep training" (ie cry it out) until at least 6 months before that it just causes bad sleep associations. Also the same with the rice before 6 months it may actually be upsetting his stomach that's not ready to handle the cereal yet. Since about the end of the 1st month my husband has done bath at 8, bottle (I nursed, but pumped so he could do the bedtime feed) after bath and then rocked him to sleep and put him to bed. I was told having someone else (if possible) doing the night time routine at first is beneficial because at this stage mom is basically a food machine so mom = time to eat take mom out of picture and baby can forget about eating and go to sleep.

Good Luck

Cayla - posted on 08/01/2009

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My daughter was the same way

she started teething at 2 months old!!! seriously my doctor didnt even believe me lol

anyways i used tylonal my doctor said orijel isnt the best for the baby

but my daughter didnt sleep through the night until 7 and a half months and still

wakes up once for a bottle....

all it took was her own bedroom....i tried everything and now im a happy mom

who gets a good night sleep

Nicole - posted on 08/01/2009

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41/2 mths is still really early for most babies to fall asleep all through the night, my daughter started sleeping through the night at about 6mths, I also think you might want to do less as your night time routine, the more you do the hard it is for babies to learn to calm themselves down on there own, I also recommend talking to your peditrian to see what he or she recomends, i think the bath then lotion then straight to bed is the best solution, i would not keep going back to his room because then he is going to start expecting it, i hope this will help you.

Kate - posted on 08/01/2009

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try bub on sweet dreams formular! it worked for mum bub he is 4 months and only wakes once it keeps them fuller for longer

Sara - posted on 08/01/2009

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You sound like a wonderful caring mother:) I would tell you all the tricks we have tried the one big one for us was both our kids slept in the bed with us part time of course until they where finally able to sleep all the way through the night alone.(I know a lot of people hate this and that is ok.) you have to do what works for you and your baby. teething is a huge factor...have you started him on solids yet? he might be just a bit hungrier then he used to be especially if he is an active little one. My son was that way I would feed him some rice cereal about an hour before bed and man did that help he was an eater lol...also those teething tablets are wonderful you can get them at any pharmacy, they are homeopathic so no worries about medication. The crying out method works great, but maybe you could try putting him to bed a tad later...for us the bath thing was not great most babies it would soothe them to sleep not our son it would wake him up when he was a baby. it is funny how different every child is. maybe he has bad gas...Try pushing his legs gently against his chest do that a few times until all the gas is out. Sometimes that's all it is. Really though I wouldn't worry to much just yet. I'm sure it is hard on you, but like they say this too shall pass.








I hope this will help. It dose take a bit of time but each child is so different.





good luck





sara

Jessica - posted on 07/31/2009

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if you think he's teething give him motrin for infants it last longer i think 8 hours. how long before you give him bottle are you giving him solid foods? i would try alittle solid like an hour before the bottle and maybe only a 6 oz botttle- just to make sure its not to much for him. my son sleeps with this little stuffed frog everynight that i had to buy two of them. see if he sleeps better with a tiny aniimal. you can always let him sleep with it and then take it out of his crib if it makes u uneasy. hope something helps

Shannon - posted on 07/31/2009

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You should try keeping him awake during the day. Don't use the shades! There is a very good chance his internal clock is out of whack right now. Keep him awake for a good part of the day and wait longer between late day feedings so that he actually wants the food and is not just eating for the comfort of being close to you. Hold him and play with him when he gets crabby. At night when he wakes up, do not speak. Feed him and change him. Cuddle him for a few moments, then put him right back into his crib. If he cries, just walk away without saying a word. Do not ignore him, but do not encourage him when he thinks nighttime is playtime with mom. As for teething, just be patient. I used the Orajel, but I never gave Tylenol because I do not think it's right to drug your children just because they are having a bad day. If your child exhibits some of the symptoms for which Tylenol is recommended, use it, but why make your baby feel drunk just because you are tired? Good luck, Samantha!

Kelley - posted on 07/31/2009

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I am not sure what othr moms have agreed or disagreed on I have read down. I do know that with all of my babies I thickened their night bottle with rice or oatmeal baby cereal. I started it earl with the first because she had reflux so the doc told me to.She was fine and didn't cause any problem then number two i thickened worked like a charm and the same with three.I am not talking about a little bit make it thick like a milk shake thick with sludge. make sure to bite that nipple so it can come out and trust me it works!! I have given other moms this advice and it worked

Julia - posted on 07/31/2009

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My daughter teethed much later but when she did she would get four teeth at a time and once those would come in she would have about a week, week and a half break and then she would get four more. She was so occupied and distracted during the day and never showed any signs of pain that it took me almost the entire six months that she was teething to figure out why she wouldn't sleep at night. It was strange, she would fall asleep for maybe an hour or two and then be wide awake for anywhere between four and six hours at night. I finally realized that she couldn't sleep becuase the pain from her teeth was waking her up. Towards the end I started to give her tylenol and ibuprofin (can't give more than a few days in a row or it could hurt their stomachs) and after almost six months of no more than three hours of sleep a night for me, I finally got a full nights rest. Anyhow try the tylenol. It won't hurt him and if it helps him sleep, then he will be getting the rest he needs.too.

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My daughter is 9 months and still does not sleep through the night! he just may not be ready to. Every baby is different

Jaime - posted on 07/31/2009

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it sounds to me that you are giving him too much to eat...which is probably giving him gas. babies have such a small belly. it is only the size of their tiny fists. if you keep giving him that much he will think that he needs it. How is his sleping through the day? if he is sleeping a lot through the day try and keep him up longer...he may have his nights and days mixed up. Also if he is napping to close to bed time that may also be a factor. The teething tablets that someone told you about do work very well...and drug store should have them. good luck

Bobbi - posted on 07/31/2009

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I have had both my kids on scheduals since they was born but unlike my first born my youngest would not sleep threw the night at 9 months she still wakes up but I found that letting her sleep in her car seat strapped in works really well try doin that for a couple nights leave the car seat by your bed so if he wakes up in the middle of the night he can see you at 4 months your child thinks that once you walk out of the room your gone forever to him and he has not figured out that there is more to the world then what is right in front of him try the car seat thing my daughter still sleeps in her's sometimes when I am to tired to deal with her at night in her own room

Lisa - posted on 07/31/2009

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u just have to deal with it. my daughter didnt sleep the whole night till she was almost one. you just have to be a zombie for a couple of more months,lol. thats the price us moms have to pay.

Mary - posted on 07/31/2009

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i say that is the problem he is getting his teeth some baby cranky and wont sleep u should a nice hot bath befor he gos to bed that mite work

Stacy - posted on 07/31/2009

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all three of my babies wouldn't sleep through the night. sometimes it wa gas and then i figured if i let them stay up a little later than usual they would sleep longer. i know a lot of mothers disagree with this and a lot of daddys do too, but my husand and i noticed that if our baby woke up say around three in the morning we would put him in bed with us and he would go right back to sleep. we noticed that sometimes just the warmth and closeness is all the baby wants and needs. we did this actually with all three of our children. our oldest is now 6. most people thing that once you start this that you have to doit forever. not true in our case. once we thought our baby was old enough to sleep in his bed without us we would just show him we were there and he would go back to sleep.

Leah - posted on 07/31/2009

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Hey Sam Im new to the group I have a 2 month old son and I find a routine of feed, play then sleep is helpful, A lactation consultant told me that and it seems to work. Reading the cries is also helpful in figuring out why theyre not settling. The 'nah' or 'neh' sound means they are hungry, 'owh" means they are tired and the 'eh' sounds means they have wind. This is my first child but my sister had 4 and they wouldnt settle very easily when they were teething so it could be that. Apparently Braurs Teething Relief works wonders!! I hope Ive helped a little bit:)

Shannon - posted on 07/30/2009

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check into GERD or an intestine issue. My sons both have GERD and will not sleep flat they have to be elevated. My youngest fights sleep too you may need a different formula. Oldest son had to go to lactose free. Teeth can play a big role in sleep patterns too. You might even try colic tabs and or teething tablets made by HIGHLAND. They have worked wonders on my children. Gripe water too, the underlying matter may be his stomach or intestine, I never would have believed it till it happen to us two times in a row. Also some children have high pain tolerances have his ears checked he may have an ear infection and his ears don't bother him till you lay him down.

Gina - posted on 07/30/2009

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Try giving him a warm bath, & they make Johnson & Johnson that is supposed to help soothe them to sleep. (I use it) Then give him warm milk with some rice. (I did that too) It always helped for me to lay my son on my chest. I know doctors are totally against that, but I did it from the time he was born & he's now 10 months & it still works. As for the teething, I don't know b/c he's just starting. I know it makes it hard for them to sleep though. Good luck! I hope you can find a solution soon!

Stephanie - posted on 07/30/2009

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I didn't read through all of the responses, so maybe someone has said this, but my daughter is 5 months and I found that if I give her a bath anywhere near bedtime she wont sleep for hours. I think it stimulates her. Not sure if your little guy has any tummy problems, but you may try putting something underneath the two legs of the crib by his head so he isnt laying flat, it may be acid reflux or something like that. Also, my baby sleeps 100 times better when we swaddle her very tightly so her arms and legs cant flail. Hope this helps! Good luck!

Kelly - posted on 07/30/2009

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All babies are different and some just dont sleep through the night until they are a little older. I have 2 kids, they are 11 months apart in age. My daughter is older and she didnt sleep through the night one single night until she was 15 months old!! My son was almost 6 months old sleeping through the night and his big sister was not. He was only 3 months old the 1st time he slept all night. You cant make them if they dont want to. I just think its all part of it... enjoy b/c before you know it he will be a big boy!! I cant have any more kids and sometimes I miss those waking up and rocking them back to sleep days!! lol...hang in there Im sure it wont be long.

Kelly

Katt - posted on 07/30/2009

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Sounds to me he's ready for some real food. I started my daughter at 4 months on rice cereal 2x a day in the morning and in the evening and an 8oz bottle right before bed. I never had the problem with sleeping threw the night unless she wasn't feeling well but i've been told once they start waking up hungry, they're ready for some solids.

Cami - posted on 07/30/2009

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Wow, lots of opinions. Motrin always worked better for my kids then did tylanol but you'd better double check the ages and doses before hand. My son would cry everynight but grandma always knew what to do. He also like to be wrapped tightly in a blanket and rocked to sleep and make sure baby isn't hungrey. Maybe play with your baby for a few minutes. I know most of this is already said...just wanted to add the motrin bit..good luck

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I'm with the girls who say he just may not be ready. My daughter didn't sleep through the night until she was almost 18 months old. The only thing that made it tolerable was that she sleeps with us; otherwise, I would be getting out of bed every 2-3 hours. It'll happen - you just have to be patient. He sets his own schedule! Good luck!

Christina - posted on 07/30/2009

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OK I do not know if this is the reason or not but my 7 week old has slept from 11pm-6am since she came home from the hospital. Our secret is that she does not go to bed without being put in her swaddle. It is just like being in a blanket in the hospital. My husband calls it her straight jacket. IT WORKS

Ena - posted on 07/30/2009

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is there an age where babies r supposed to sleep through the night??? I find this strange as all my three didnt sleep through the nightti theyere over one d theyre normal kids!

Katy - posted on 07/30/2009

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Not sure if this will help but in my situation it seemed to make a huge difference. Maybe try not giving your baby a bath so close to his bedtime. I found with my son giving him a bath close to bed just seemed to wake him up. I will bath him late afternoon then go out for a half hour walk (where he gets a quick snooze) give him some fruit,play walk or do whatever with him till 8:00 or so and then bed time bottle while listening to lullabies and then lights out in a pitch black room! I've done this routine for almost 2 months now and he's sleeping anywhere from 8 to 5:30. I guess every baby is different and has different sleeping patterns.....hopefully you can find something that works for you so you can get your beauty sleep :) Good luck!

Hillary - posted on 07/30/2009

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My heart goes out to you...that's gotta be rough. I read Babywise, and that helped get my daughter on a schedule really quickly. She ran into a couple restless nights when she finally started teething (at almost 8 months). I used Gripe Water (you can buy it at any grocery store--Wellements brand worked the best for us) for her gassiness and teething, but the main recommendation I was given was to feed and rock your baby until he gets drowsy, but not completely asleep...the rationale is that if they fall asleep and you put them in bed when they wake up (which nearly every child does), he'll freak out, where if you train him to soothe himself and put himself to sleep, when he wakes up during the middle of the night, he'll know what to do and you can sleep peacefully without the interruption. It took about 2 weeks of this, and my little one got to where she can sleep about 12-13 hours at a stretch. Also, when he wakes up, you may want to let him cry for about 5 minutes until you go back in to soothe him. You may also want to try switching formula...I know when mine had an upset stomach due to a sensitivity with the formula she had a hard time going to sleep b/c she was constantly uncomfortable. Hope that helps! Good luck :)

Dana - posted on 07/30/2009

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it will happen when he's ready! mine were waking up 1-2 times a night until they were 10 months old to be nursed then they'd go back to bed. its different from baby to baby!

Defhee - posted on 07/30/2009

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thats probably the reason why your baby cant sleep.teething really affected theyr sleep routine,it may not be too painful but they can still feel it & it really bothers them.so,jst hve patience.yah,give him a warm bath b4 you put him 2 sleep will really helps!& once dat tooth came out it should be all better.goodluck!

Tina - posted on 07/30/2009

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It sounds like you have a good bed time routine and all I can say is stick with it, I know it can become very upsetting to have a baby who doesn't sleep thru the night and in return you dont get all the sleep you need yourself. However I'm going to be completly honest with you, theres plenty f babies who don't sllep through the night unill there much older. I was very unlucky with that myself, my son didn't really sleep thru the night untill he was about two and to this day theres many of nights when he is up a handfull of times. Untill then sleep as much as you can whenever you can during the day, esp when the baby naps. Take any sleep you can!

Symantha - posted on 07/30/2009

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I have two girls and neither one of mine started sleeping throught the night until they were taken off of bottles and breastfeeding. The only thing that helped them sleep longer through the night was putting them in bed with me and my husband, a lot of people don't agree letting them sleep with you but it was the only way that I could get any sleep!

Tiffany - posted on 07/30/2009

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You already have soo much advise and I will most likely have nothing new for you but here goes... Lavender and camamille (spelling?) in warm water as a bath before bed, even lavender lotions are avaliable. And you can try a massage, always stroke away from his body, like outward from shoulder to hands for example. Try 1/4 rice to formula mixture to fill him up. And solid foods. Or make sure he isn't colicy, burbing well, no gas. I'd put my baby in my lap with her tummy over my thigh and gently roll her tummy back and forth it helped her relieve her gas. Umm, letting him cry it out isn't bad. I know lots don't agree, but I tried it too. You have to be strong and wait it out it took weeks for my girl. Don't interact with him at night just check on him , if my girl saw me it was over she was staying up. I also tried putting

her in her car seat on top the dryer for the warmth and movement, I hear they like the vibration. Teething could be the problem try the tablets, oragel, tylonol.

J - posted on 07/30/2009

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maybe ur baby is just hungry, that happened with my little girl, we started weaning her at 41/2 months and it worked wonders start off with solids at the(along with normal bottle) second feed of the day and u will notice a difference at night!

Celine - posted on 07/30/2009

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it seems like you have been trying everything under the sun with no joy, my nan swore by when baby wakes in the night for a bottle give them water instead and persist, they will soon realise there's no point in waking up for that, and if you cuddle him to feed avoid eye concact, i know its hard but it will teach him that if he wakes in the night he's not going to get interaction from you. also if he's looking for comfort in the night maybe try a dummy first while he is still sleepy, like that you avoid moving him to much and waking him up even more. hope some of this helps x

Emily - posted on 07/30/2009

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I don't know if you have had a chance to read the book "On Becoming Baby Wise" yet but that is how my daughter was able to start sleeping through the night! She is 7 weeks old and has been sleeping 6-7 hours at a time already! The book talks alot about breastfeeding...but the important part for you is the scheduling aspect! When they are on a schedule then they know when it is nighttime. We don't even have to rock my baby girl anymore at night...she just goes to sleep on her own! Try it! I got the book at Borders!

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Well, I don't have much knowledge on this subject since my son starting sleeping through the night at 6 weeks. But, you may want to try just waiting a bit later to put him down for the night. He may just be upset because he knows that you're still up & he might think he's missing out on a party or something. :) Go ahead & feed him at 7 and then let him stay up til about 9 and see what happens. He could just be going through a growth spurt & need more food or he could just be trying to get attention. No matter what you do, don't fret...you sound like a caring mom and you'll find what works.

Amber - posted on 07/30/2009

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Hunny, your baby is hungry!! If he's taking 8 oz before bed then up 3 hours later for more, he's hungry. I started all my babies out on banana baby food at 4 months. And they loved it and slept great. Dont over do it, maybe try just a few spoonfuls or try giving him the cereal..just keep it pretty liquidy. Add his formula to it until it is almost runny and let him have that. It works way better then in a bottle.

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