Th maraina

Cassandra - posted on 07/07/2011 ( 94 moms have responded )

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Ok so I had the maraina put in right after I had my son. I had like a month long period and then it stoped. I haven't had one since and it has been great. I haven't had any peoblems. Well my son is 13 months old and reacently I have been having pains in that genral area. They feel almpst like cramps but I haven't had any since my periods stoped. Some times they are barable some times I am doubled over in pain. Im not sure what is going on. Could it be cramps or something else?

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Delaney - posted on 07/08/2011

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Ashley Wire, What if a couple marries young, fully intending to have one or many children. However, this couple decides to wait to have these children until they are better prepared to raise, teach, mold, and love these children. Until a time when they can afford things like maternity leave, and medical bills. They make this decision in an effort to give their children the secure life they feel their children (and themselves) deserve. Is birth control wrong then? I'm not asking for judgment, I'm simply trying to understand your point of view.
I myself have 2 beautiful girls, and would do anything to give them a great life with many opportunities. there are times when I wish I had been older and more stable when I had them. Life is what it is, though, and I am doing the best I can. I don't want to have any more now though, so I use birth control. I feel that I can give my children a better life if I don't spread myself too thin.

Kimberlee - posted on 08/10/2011

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I have two things to say on this post...

1)please go get your mirena checked, you may be experiencing a complication with placement.

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2.) I want to say thank the Lord that I am not a child of Ashley Wire's. Seriously, can you honestly say that Love and Life is more important then knowing that you can provide for a child? Everyone has their own beliefs but I just dont think that I could look at my child and say, "I'm sorry son/daughter we cant eat again today, but just know that I love you and with that knowledge I hope that fills your hungry belly and cures your hunger pains." What about persons with mental disabilities(i.e. down syndrome)? They can physically have children and they are capable of love, but do you think that they should have children knowing that they cant take care of themselves vs another person?

You can believe what you want, but for you to say that people shouldnt use birth control and that by taking measures to prevent pregnancy is wrong, and further more people who do not want children should not have sexual intercourse is crazy. Who are you to make those choices for people?
Believe what you want but if you cant respond to posts with out pushing your beliefs on others then I would advise you to not respond to posts that would put you in that temptation... Leave it up to GOD who's opinion on that subject is the only ones that matters!

Hayley - posted on 08/03/2011

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this conversation is driving me mad so I am going to put in my 2cents worth. I have had 3 c-sections because I am unable to give birth naturally. Medically I am more at risk of harm to another baby & myself if I get pregnant again. I would love another baby but would also love to be around for the 3 I already have. There are numerous reasons why people feel they couldn't have children at certain points in their life & don't you think that preventing pregnancy is a much better option then aborting it!!!!!

Camille - posted on 07/11/2011

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Ashley Wire: Duty is important but it comes out of love. I love my daughters so I'm diligent as to keep them clean, fed, emotionally stable. It comes out of love. Also, you are wrong to say that you love for the other one. I believe it a 50/50 situation. You have to love for yourself too!!!! Try it!!!! It is rewarding and I'm sure will give you clarity as to some aspects in life. As to being practical!

Camille - posted on 07/11/2011

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Flower girl: totally agree with you. Ashley Wire: Before having children you have to love an adult. Partner love comes first. Then a person can't get married, can't enjoy love if they think they can't love or take care of children??? That is just non-sense!!!!! There are people that when single thought they could not bear the responsibility of having children. As soon as they meet someone and love that person, some people can see themselves having children with that person. So, loving the children first just doesn't make sense!!!! Before meeting my husband, I wanted children, yes, but I didn't know if I could deal with the responsibility. When I met him and fell fiercely in love with him, I wanted children with him. I wanted more of him. I wanted to reaffirm that love having children like him and I. Also, love is wonderful but you have to provide to your children. You have to have, at least, the basic resources. Then... what???? Loving my children and then suffering because I have to see them homeless and hungry????? That doesn't make sense!!!!!

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Valerie - posted on 08/16/2011

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I just got the miraina (hate it) and it says in there u can still experience some cramping with out having a period, if its suppose to be your time of the month then it could be just the cramps and nothing else... try motrin and if it gets worst then you may wanna seek an er visit!!!

Nakeia - posted on 08/09/2011

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I am due september 13, 2011 and i will bed 24 i signed the papers to have my tubes tide this is my second child (boy 4 and baby girl on the way) Both pregnacies have been horrible and i dont like it but i was thinking i shouldnt do it but both of my kids are a result of me being on birth control and i am scared that it wont work and i will end up pregnant again! does it really work i dont know anyone who have it!

Amber - posted on 08/08/2011

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my obgyn told me not to worry about a little cramping and spotting. if it has torn through, you will KNOW it!

Christina - posted on 08/07/2011

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I had the same thing and ended up having it taken out cause they just kept getting worse and worse. I would see if there is a clinic i was in the same boat and just went to one of them with my fiancee's pay stubs and they said they would bill me and I still havn't got anything from them. Hope it gets better for you soon.

Jennifer - posted on 08/05/2011

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Get it looked at! Mine almost fell out after 4 years, but it was sitting in a position that could have caused a uterine tear, which almost always means hysterectomy. Don't take the chance, make an appointment. If they can't get you in fast enough, go to the ER. I did.

Samara - posted on 08/04/2011

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I'm just wondering what happened. Did you get it checked? Is everything alright? I understand not having insurance or money but your health is more important than anything else!! Esp because your son needs you!! Just wondering. I hope all is well!!

Emma - posted on 08/04/2011

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i had the marina 3 yrs ago after my daughter..best thing i ever did..lol i only had little bleeding for a week or so ,then i stopped once a month i get a achey belly. sometimes i have spotting around the time,but jus latley i get jus a pink discharge sometimes i get nothing at all but the erge to eat chocolate..lol.. if ur worried jus visit your gp maybe its slipped.
another thing i have noticed with this particular coil is that a lot of people get pregnancy symptoms..

Alyssa - posted on 08/04/2011

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i had the same thing it was awful. but you can still go to your dr and set up a payment plan with them and sometimes you wont have to pay but id def get checked and ask about the pay plan they will work with you on that. good luck

Hope - posted on 08/03/2011

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I know most people are concerned it may be a health issue... You may just want to take a pregnancy test. I had marina in and my son was 11 month when I started having sever cramps. I kept putting it off thinking it would get better. I finally started bleeding but was in sever pain. I too had no insurance so I took a test just to be safe. I was indeed pregnant with number two.
After I got my insurance fixed I went to the doctor to get it removed and they said it looked like I had recently hemmoraged and my body had expelled the IUD.
I thought it was the perfect birth control, but after my recent experience I am not recommending it to anyone.
Just take a test to be safe; it's cheaper than a doctors visit. And if it's negative you may want to look in to a clinic or something to get check.
Best of wishes.

Taylor - posted on 08/01/2011

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I got the merina after my daughter and didn't have any problems until almost two years later. I had lots of pain/cramps. It hurt too bad to have sex most the time..I never had a period either! We finally got it taken out It cost 150$ since we don't have insurance. It was the best choice EVER! As soon as it was out I felt soo much better!! But be careful..Even using condoms I got pregnant within just a few weeks!

Christie - posted on 07/28/2011

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just want to say and im not sure if someone has said it but i know of 2 women personally who cannot have children because of the merina, i wouldnt recommend anyone get it, there are far safer alternatives. it quite often breaks through the wall of the uterous requiring surgery to remove, i hope this isnt the case with you?

Sarahkaye - posted on 07/28/2011

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I have mirana, and have cramping too. I went to the doctor and they said it was because I don't get periods, and my body wants to be dislogging those old eggs and what not. I have occassional spotting, too. I've also had it for two years this august. As for all the problems people talk about, every form of birth control has bad symptoms. If we freak about all the small things, just don't use them :) But, I'd check with a doctor to be sure.

Vanelis - posted on 07/21/2011

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The mirena gave me a side effect and is call endemotriosis look it up i had this desease with the mirena please take it off is not worth the risk now aim always on pain.after 5 years of having the mirena inside of me it was time I had to have surgery to get it removed because it was on my pelvic area....I would never recommend the mien a to any mom out there.

Flower - posted on 07/11/2011

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I apologize Cassandra for veering off topic. I guess the conversation just got a little intense and heated. I just didn't like the way Ashley wire blatantly stated: "seriously, why are all you women doing this to yourselves, with all these horrible stories of what can happen as a result? "

So I apologize for ranting on your post about my opinions on why using birth control is a smart choice and for arguing with Ashley about why I disagree with her beliefs that birth control is wrong & her opinions on love are miss guided.

Kristina - posted on 07/11/2011

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ya i would definetly go in to doc if i were u. i had it with no issues but it fell out on its own one period with out me knowing and i got pregnant with child #3. i will never use it again. i have heard nothing but issues with it.

Katrina - posted on 07/11/2011

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It could be cramps. I used to get cramps every 4th month or so and I would never get a period. When I get cramps they are horrible so I would be doubled over. I had mine taken out after I got pregnant with it in and lost the baby. It also caused a cyst on my ovary and an abnormal pap. I personally will not get one again but I did enjoy not having periods while I was on it.

Nicole - posted on 07/10/2011

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And the girls arguing back in forth, I just wanted to say you both have your opinions, no one's wrong and no one's right, it's opinions.

Nicole - posted on 07/10/2011

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I'm having the same pain once or twice a month. The doctor who put mine in told me mirena can cause cyst but they usually go away on their own and rarely become very dangerous. One morning I woke up with a severe amount of pain, more than normal, it felt like someone was stabbing me. I went to the ER and they took ex rays and cultures and didn't find anything. They did find the mirena and it looked in the right spot. I can't afford to have a gynecologist or OB so I had to go to the ER. I still have the cramping but not as bad as that one time. If you're worried then go to the ER. I have like 3 bills from the ER that will stay there until I can pay them. I think it's better than spending $200 at a doctors office. My credits already whack anyways. Good luck.

Sarah - posted on 07/09/2011

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The OP asked for advice on what her cramping could indicate. She did not ask anyone's opinion on whether she should use birth control. I don't understand why some people have such a hard time staying on topic and being respectful in their responses.

Cassandra, I sincerely hope you are able to find out what is causing your pain and get it taken care of. Please keep us updated on your condition! I had a friend who had her Mirena removed due to uterine perforation, where the IUD actually punctured her uterine wall. She went to her health department and they took care of her right away for a very low fee. If your doctor's office is hard to get into quickly, or you don't have insurance, you might check that out! I agree with Delaney; you need to get it checked out as soon as possible!

Delaney - posted on 07/08/2011

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I had the same thing put in after my first child. It was great for about 7 months, then I started having terrible cramps, but I was also bleeding. I let it go for about 2 months before I called my Gyno. She wanted to remove it immediately, and gave me a stern talking to for letting it go for so long. Bottom line, it could be something else, but I would certainly advise you to speak with your Dr. about it.

Cassandra - posted on 07/08/2011

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Ok seriously people. This is a little rediculess. I asked some oppinions on what i should do and what it could be. I did not ask for people to get into it about weather or not I made the right choice in getting one. I made the desision to get the marania because i felt that I would not beable to handle two babies at the same time and that i knew that i was not finatualy fit to have two children at the same time. I would rather not have to denie my child the proper nutrition or clothing or dipers because i can not afford it. and i am not going to be some lazy ass who sitts there and does nothing while the state and all the tax payers pay for my children because i cant do it on my own. I am an independent woman and i chose to do this. I just wanted to see if anyone else had this experiance or not. I think it is dumb that ya'all get into it when that was not even the issue. Looks like some people need to grow up. sorry if i offended anyone but that is how i feel and i speak my mind. and thank you all for your input who stuck to the topic and actually answered my questions. I much appriciate it and i will look into getting it checked out. thank you

Flower - posted on 07/08/2011

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This conversation was so funny the way that you avoided questions and twisted things around without giving a proper meaning that I just couldn't resisting copying and pasting this to every social net work and blog I have. You are so funny I had to share it with the world. Ashley Wire!!

Flower - posted on 07/08/2011

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And you avoided me clearly defining what duty means. So Obviously you only love because you are "required" to.

Flower - posted on 07/08/2011

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You got hostile a loooooong time ago so good job not avoiding that. What may I ask is your "beliefs" any who?

Flower - posted on 07/08/2011

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I didn't say I was right in you being closed minded I was just stating my opinion. Never said I was right but just based upon what I know and think I believe you are closed minded. So no I am not closed minded for thinking you are closed minded because my opinion on the definition of close minded differs from yours..... hehe

Flower - posted on 07/08/2011

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Its funny how you have nothing to say but that. I love how you twist your words to avoid stuff.... is that how your life is? do you do things to avoid other things?

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Hehe, so using your logic, you're closed minded too for claiming to know that I am closed minded. Because you shouldn't claim to ever know what is right... right? So if you claim to know that I am closed minded... that makes you closed minded.

I studied psychology, philosophy and french. I don't think it makes me anymore equipped to have a ridiculous conversation like this though.

Flower - posted on 07/08/2011

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Whatever, you just can't face the fact that you did assume something about me. Now you are trying to twist your words around to make it like you didn't. Face up to your mistake. You did just make an assumption dear from the observation you made. When you observe you either come to a conclusion based upon facts and exercising all your resources or you come to an assumption because you really don't know all the facts and haven't exercised all your resources. You made a very clear assumption haha

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I was equating what you said with having a low value on life. What you said basically straight forward translated to me as placing a low value on life. I didn't need to make an assumption. If someone says, "I like to start fires" I would call them a pyromaniac, there's no assumption made there, I was just rewording what I read.

To make it clearer let me rephrase. "I'm sorry you feel babies don't deserve a chance at life because their parents think they can't handle children."

That's all I meant when I said "place a low value on life" not anything more having to do with you as a person.

Flower - posted on 07/08/2011

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du·ty

noun /ˈd(y)o͞otē/ 
duties, plural

A moral or legal obligation; a responsibility
- it's my duty to uphold the law
- she was determined to do her duty as a citizen
- a strong sense of duty

(of a visit or other undertaking) Done from a sense of moral obligation rather than for pleasure
- a fifteen-minute duty visit

A task or action that someone is required to perform
- the queen's official duties
- your duties will include sweeping the switchboard
- Juliet reported for duty


I don't think I am required to preform love either..... Its my own choice.

Flower - posted on 07/08/2011

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No You are close minded because you think that you know what right and wrong is because of how you live and how others live isn't the :right" way. Who are you to say that. I am just saying you are closed minded because of the way you give yourself off and the way that you think. You are the definition of what a close minded person is like. And what you are saying is that you are not close minded but I am because I consider you close minded? Well than, by your strange definition of what close minded is, wouldn't that consider you close minded for thinking I am close minded. You should open your mind and maybe you can see that. I have take psychology classes and studied enough to know how to point out a close minded person.

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And see I am opened minded enough to accept other peoples views. If someone else thought I was doing something wrong I wouldn't say that they couldn't feel that way. You on the other hand think because I have a set of moral imperatives and choose to express them that I am closed minded. I would not be so close minded to call someone who has a different set of beliefs closed minded.



I believe in an absolute right and wrong, you don't. But that doesn't make me closed minded, just different. You should open your mind a bit so you can see that.

Flower - posted on 07/08/2011

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"I'm sorry you place your value on life so low" ( here you made an observation based upon what I have been writing. Then you stated your assumption based upon what I was writing.) Still it is an assumption and you were assuming I place my values low based upon your observation of what I had written.

Flower - posted on 07/08/2011

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Obviously you had some sort of strong urge because you as well as I kept this going. I don't think your opinion is wrong, I never said that. I have just been disagreeing with you this whole time and stating why I disagree & my opinion. And its apparent that you have ran out of counter arguments. So I guess we must agree to disagree. Unlike you when something is done differently I disagree with people I don't say they are wrong because its not what I believe. Who's to say what in life is the right way to do things. There are many different ways to live and I don't think anyone is doing it wrong I just disagree. It would be close minded of me to say that they are wrong.

Flower - posted on 07/08/2011

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Well then, like you, I am assuming based upon the things you have written as well. Its still assuming hahaha no matter which way you do it. You did it.

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We're going in circles. I'm okay with having a different opinion. I'm even okay with you thinking my opinion is wrong. What I am not okay with is you telling me my thinking your opinion is wrong is not okay. Get over it. I think you're wrong. So what? You think I'm wrong too, I don't feel a strong urge to prevent you from thinking that way, so why do you?

Flower - posted on 07/08/2011

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How did I know you would bring up murder hahaha
Another good thing about being human is the fact that we have MORALES and of course we all have different moral values. But the most common Morales we have are knowing that stealing, cheating, lying, murder,etc, is wrong. Why? Well another good thing about being a human is the fact that we care for others & we can love in many different ways. So we can feel when we hurt others by lying, cheating, stealing, killing, etc. and we have sympathy/empathy and know that it would be bad to do such things.

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Those were my words but they were only my observation on your comment. Not assuming anything about you. You have placed unintended meaning on those words. So, you have the choice now to take my word for it that you are reading more into those words than was intended or you can continue this pointless back and forth regarding them.

Flower - posted on 07/08/2011

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"I'm sorry you place your value on life so low" Your exact words. That means you assume I place my value low..... savvy right?

Flower - posted on 07/08/2011

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Children shouldn't be born if the parents have an inkling that they may do it improperly. Children should be born when both parents are ready fully mentally and know this. You know one of the differences between animals and humans is our intellectual capability to know when to produce offspring and when not too.

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You said children who might have sucky lives shouldn't be born... that's my definition of low value on life, not an assumption about anything else about you.

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Really, there's no right or wrong? Is it not wrong to murder? Or is that just some silly person's opinion. Probably someone pig nosed, right?

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I agree completely. It is your choice. I never said it wasn't. I just said it was wrong. Because that's what I believe. I have that right too. And I can tell people I think it's wrong, that's my choice, because I do think it's wrong. I also think lying and stealing are wrong and I have no problem telling people who do such things that I think they're doing wrong. People do have freewill and they are free to exercise it and that includes doing wrong things.

So, once again you don't have to agree. But I think using birth control to deny children life is wrong. Just like I think stealing and lying are wrong. You can choose whatever you want but I will not be told that I cannot state my opinion about which things are clearly wrong to me. Savvy?

Flower - posted on 07/08/2011

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You assumed I place my value on life low..... so that means you as well are assuming. Aren't you assuming in fact that your way to live life is the "right" way to live when in fact there really isn't a right or wrong way?

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