Views on bratz dolls

Amanda - posted on 05/13/2009 ( 101 moms have responded )

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I do not agree with bratz dolls and have never bought them for my daughter. she recently turned 5 and received 2 as gifts, She understands that they are immodest and their image does not present well. Does anyone else have a problem with these toys, what do you do if your child receives them as a gift? I dont want to throw her gifts away but I dont want her playing with the things either.

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Kate CP - posted on 06/27/2009

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Uhh, it's kinda hard to compete in gymnastics when you're wearing a burkha. Spandex leotards are the "uniform" of gymnasts and skaters. It's not meant to be sexual, it's meant to allow movement.

Charlie - posted on 06/27/2009

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just had a look at a bratz doll website , the doll was wearing make up only usually reserved for clowns , hookers and Trannies , a skirt so short her undies were hanging out and a silver bra thats it !!! im not a prude , sterile , or sex free , i as an adult love sex , but it is worrying that the sex sells mentality is being used to market childrens dolls , dolls may i add are meant to be a representation of a teenage girl , does any one else see the correlation between the over sexualisation of children and the rising number of children who experience sex or a sex act at an increasingly early age ?
There are plenty of other dolls out there that are cute , age appropriate , and come in all races , i certainly wont hide my children from the world , " sex " is being put in their faces everywhere , everyday , but as a responsible parent i will use words to explain the things they see ,being a child is a special time of your life its something i want them to enjoy as long as possible without feeling the pressure of having to grow up to fast , childhood is something you never get back ! and if that means not inviting these things in my home then i wont . sex isnt evil as someone sarcastically stated earlier its a beautiful experiance shared between adults , but it is morally wrong when 12 , 13 , 14 year olds are not only having sex but falling pregnant . you have to draw a line somewhere .

Amanda - posted on 06/26/2009

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Quoting April:



Quoting Amanda:





Quoting Melissa:

I don't think they should be banned or anything like that. The glory of america is we all get to make our own choices. I personally don't like bratz in my house because their big heads creep me out. We have a ton of barbies, generally speaking their clothes are very modest, but it doesnt matter because half the time they are naked anyways. Sometimes my apparel even borderlines on slutty, if it's hot I'm wearing as little as possible to stay cool. I think it is about personal parenting choices and how you react. I believe if you are too protective about body image, it can make a child feel ashamed about their own bodies. We all have our own parenting techniques, that's what makes each child an individual.









I dont think it makes kids ashamed of their bodies to be protective about body image.










I am not die hard by the book religious although I do believe in god as the creator and most of what goes along with that but I am not sitting in church every sunday and stuff. I do however teach my older daughter (5) that her body is sacred and because it is sacred it is ment to be kept behind modest clothing. I tell ehr that if she loves herself she will keep her self coverd. She already knows that the girls she sees walking in the mall with shorts so short you can see the butt cheeks through the bottoms have no self respect and are dressed like that because they need attention and validation from others in order to feel pretty. People that where trashy clothing are imoral and project the wrong image. They taint the mids of our boys and potentially make other girls feel that they need to look like that in order for people to like them. I have the same talk with my little sister (I am her legal guradian) when she came to live with us she also dressed like a hoochy. After a year she turned around. she no longer wears skirts that show her knees and she doesnt where tank tops unless it is under a low cut t shirt and she is turning 18 and still a virgin so I guess that just comes along with modesty and self respect.










allow your kids to dress like skanks and they are at risk for premature sex, sexual assult, rape, teen pregnancy , std's, tainted body image and a whole host of other problems. And this is what bratz dolls do. If we can ban and eliminate these gross dolls than that will be one less form of media telling our kids that they need to be a certian way.











I have a few words for you Amanda...







 







One, Bratz dolls aren't "slutty", they are just like Barbies... except they are different color skinned and has a big head, so? who cares. They are just dolls. If you look up the word "slutty" it has nothing to do with clothing...So I looked up slut so you will now know what it really means.







A person, especially a woman, considered sexually promiscuous.

A woman prostitute.





Now, is the Bratz doll promiscuous? no. Is it a prostitute? no.







 







Secondly, wearing shorts and skirts that are short doesn't mean they have no self respect. I myself wear short shorts and skirts, not were my butt cheeks are showing but they are still short. I have lots of self respect for myself, just because I choose to wear those doesn't mean anything. Eseciaplly if it's 90 degrees outside, I will be in a tank top and shorts. I wear my clothes for me, not to get attention... honestly I don't like  the attention that it brings to me, but I'm not gonna be sweating my butt off in pants and a t-shirt just because of what someone else thinks. Also, I know I'm pretty because I feel pretty, even in sweats and a hoodie. Doesn't matter what I have on it's all in the mind of that person.  And frankly, I started wearing clothes like this since I was a teenager and I didn't have sex until I was 20, going on 21. So what I'm saying is someone can have self respect and still dress like that.







 







Thirtly, If we banned the dolls then we would have to ban almost everything in the world. But will that happen? No. It's always going to be around for years to come. It's not the clothes that are leading to premature sex, etc. Parents need to talk to their kids about sex and everything that goes with it. It's the parents job and responsiably to make sure their children knows the cautions of having sex.







 







Lastly,  since you meantioned you wont' buy spandex for your daughters barbie... why on earth would you buy spandex for her to wear and then show it to the world?





my daughter is a gymnist. she has been in gymnastics for 4 years. the outfit she is wearing in the photo was her first real "flip gear" she wanted me to take a photo so we could put it on facebook for our family to see. they are far away from us ad photos are one of the ways we keep in touch. there is a diference between an athlete wearing athletic clothing and someone wearing skanky stuff in public.

Kylie - posted on 06/15/2009

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Quoting Carrie:

Ok I don't know if I am the only one on earth, but I use to play with barbies and never thought about how they looked and I also use to watch fighting cartoons like TMNT and stuff and never got in any fights. So really I don't see what the big deal is with dolls, because thats exactly what they are is dolls. Also you control what your kids wear not the dolls so don't buy clothes that can look bad. Just let kids be kids. Teach your kids that looks aren't everything and they look fine the way they are. I am sick of all the drama from people about dolls. Or that tv shows change the way kids behave. It's just crazy. My generation grew up knowing that its tv not real. Thats all that matters. My kids love Dragon Ball Z and its all fighting and they don't go around starting fights, b/c we teach them not too. People expect tv to raise there kids and thats not the case you have to raise you kids. So like me or hate what I said its now I feel and I don't judge how people raise there kids, but mine are fine and have a bratz doll and watch fighting cartoons.


Nobody is judging you on the way you raise your kids Carrie, some of us just voicing concerns about bratz dolls and the message they send to innocent girls. I was barbie mad as a kid  and i looked at her body and couldn't wait to grow boobs and wear high heels just like her. I think it's very scary when dolls designed specifically for 4 - 8 year-olds are associated with objectified adult sexuality. The facts are these dolls are having an effect on children, i see little girls 8-10 walking around with mini skirts, heels, purses, on their mobile phones etc and the parents don't mind because they are immune to it..they make bras and matching lacy panties for 5 years olds at target now! the media and makers of commercials and toys are forcing our children to grow up way to fast. these bratz dolls are unnecessary...apparently its normal for girls in primary school to talk about being on a diet these days!?  Things have changes since we were little girls, now they are under pressure to look sexy. Children are sponges everything you expose them to has an impact. You can teach your child not to dress as a skank but if she sees the skank look being glamorised and some of her friends are allowed to skank it up she will still want to look that way. Look how many young teens are posting provocative pictures of themselves on myspace for attention, its an epidemic, they think its perfectly acceptable to upload bikini clad photos because they have been desensitized as children as have their parents. I'm worried for my daughter and you should be too.

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Sarah - posted on 04/03/2012

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my oldest daughter loves bratz she's 6 this yr, its just a doll relax.. id be more concerned with barbie who DOESNT wear any underwear!!

K. - posted on 04/03/2012

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It's not the clothes that bother me as much as the overly plumped, surgically-enhanced looking lips, and eyes that make the damn dolls looks like they've taken one too many hits off the bong. They just look creepy to me. Moxie Girlz are a hit with my daughters, and I think they're rather cute.

Barb - posted on 03/27/2012

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My daughter got a Christmas gift from a friend it was bratz baby she is 2 1/2 and not really interesting. I was not really with the toy, but we said thank you and left it at Grandma's. If we could get another outfit on it it wouldn't be so bad. I like my daughters baby dolls to acutally look like baby. My boyfriend hates the thing and refused to have it in our home. It's skirt is too short and showed it's butt, it was wearing a tank top and make up. Looked nothing like a baby. It had a bottle that's about it!

Starfish - posted on 03/27/2012

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I don't allow them in my home because I'm not comfortable with my girls emulating their style. I've explained that to my girls, and they don't seem much interested in them anyway. They've never received any as gifts, so I haven't had that issue.



I don't consider myself especially conservative...on any level...but children don't need a hypersexualized doll, when Barbie is just as fun...and she wears more normal clothes and makeup.



Idk. I don't get my buttons pushed by seeing the Bratz dolls in the store or anything. I don't think they should be "banned" or that someone is a bad parent for choosing to let their kids have 'em, but I just think they're not quite in line with what I like my girls to see and play with on a daily basis, so they don't have a place in my home. Simple as that.

Nataschia - posted on 03/27/2012

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Big deal it's fantasy since I was little make up has been a big part of being a girl for dress up and when my my mom or aunt did their makeup they put a little on me when girls are older they don't leave the house without it he'll I even did my 3 yr old sons makeup like Bowie once just for fun I also paint their nails black when I do mine or write punk on their nails or rock star every once in a while

Amanda - posted on 06/28/2009

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Quoting Loureen:

just had a look at a bratz doll website , the doll was wearing make up only usually reserved for clowns , hookers and Trannies , a skirt so short her undies were hanging out and a silver bra thats it !!! im not a prude , sterile , or sex free , i as an adult love sex , but it is worrying that the sex sells mentality is being used to market childrens dolls , dolls may i add are meant to be a representation of a teenage girl , does any one else see the correlation between the over sexualisation of children and the rising number of children who experience sex or a sex act at an increasingly early age ?
There are plenty of other dolls out there that are cute , age appropriate , and come in all races , i certainly wont hide my children from the world , " sex " is being put in their faces everywhere , everyday , but as a responsible parent i will use words to explain the things they see ,being a child is a special time of your life its something i want them to enjoy as long as possible without feeling the pressure of having to grow up to fast , childhood is something you never get back ! and if that means not inviting these things in my home then i wont . sex isnt evil as someone sarcastically stated earlier its a beautiful experiance shared between adults , but it is morally wrong when 12 , 13 , 14 year olds are not only having sex but falling pregnant . you have to draw a line somewhere .



very well put. if we can monitor what comes into our homes than why not. just because there is sex everywhere doenst mean we have to be the ones to expose it to our kids.

Katy - posted on 06/27/2009

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I hate Bratz dolls and have told all the relatives we don't allow them in the house. My mother in law got my daughter one for christmas, and it somehow disappeared one day never to be heard from or seen again.... they are just making dressing like a whore look like even more fun to little girls.

Crystal - posted on 06/27/2009

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Holy cow, there are a couple people that need to just lay off this chick and stop attacking her 5 year old daughter!! Sheesh! What did the daughter ever do to you?
Come on Moms, let's not fight!

Kimi - posted on 06/27/2009

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The clothes don't bother me too mutch because my lil girl just takes them off anyway. I don't know why but a naked doll is a happy doll to her. The Bratz dolls have creepy faces and I'm mostly concered that they would give her nightmares.

Chrystal - posted on 06/27/2009

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I agree with you. I do not think that bratz dolls give children the right message. I do not let my daughter have them but I have also had people give them to her as presents. I allowed her to have the 2 she got but I explained to her that we have to change her clothes to new ones. I also ask everyone not to buy them bc I dont agree with the message they send. If you can buy her some new doll clothes for them that you agree with.

Kimi - posted on 06/27/2009

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I think they are ugly but they are just dolls. I would never encourage it but if my kids wanted them that would be fine.

Andrea - posted on 06/27/2009

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My niece is into those dolls and didn't really have a problem with them till I had a daughter of my own, LOL. I really never liked them because I think they look to sexy for young girls. I am only 25 but remember if I was to dress anything like that I would have gotten into BIG trouble!!! I have seen girls as young as 5 try to dress as those dolls do. It kinda scares me: if they have stuff like this what will they have for my daughter in 9 years when she is 10!!! If you can't take it back and/or can't sell it on e-bay type stuff I would let a dog have it as a chew toy!!!

Amanda - posted on 06/27/2009

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Quoting LaCi:

There is really no point in arguing with amanda. Her children are raised in a perfectly sterile, sex free, reality free home.

That being said it seems to be a consensus among board members that sex is evil, everything should be censored, and god is almighty. So with that, I'm out.


oh please, you people have no idea how my children are raised. Why is it wrong if a mother does ot let her children play with toys that are very controversial, watch tv shows that are violent  and promote teen sex. yes my home is sterile and you know why laci so I dont need to explain my self again. Reality free? I dont see how my home is reality free. My children know right from wrong and we explain everything to them that they are exposed to. we do not live in the subborbs so my kids ahve seen a lot of what I wish they should have never been exposed to. We had a drive by shooting 2 doors down last week so my daughter got to see the house all pumped full of bullets, she gets to hear the rowdy parties and see people strung out on crack sitting on their patio and being rushed by ambulence to hospital. we cant just move and run away from the issues that are in our neighborhood because with the economy the way it is now we could face being homeless, I run a home buisness so if we moved even to an apartment I would loose my income. If I could protect my kids from the eveils in the world and just let them be kids I would. my daughter cant play in her own back yard and she is not allowed to walk to school. 4 months ago they had to lock down her school because of a weapons incident. 2 weeks prior to that there were pedophiles trying to pick up kids at a neighbouring school. We live in a city that has the highest violent crime rate per capita than any other city in canada and the sad thing is that it is a small city.



My children see a lot more than most kids do. My children understand that these are social problems and do not reflect the behaviour of all people.  If we could afford to live in the subborbs where my daughter could play in the yard and ride her bike in the drive way you can bet we would be there now but we cant. In a  year we will be gone, out of this shit province and headed east to where there are more people like us and far less crime. If someone is able to protect their kids from violence, sexual predators and the like than why wouldnt they?



we cant controll the scum in our city but we can controll what we bring into our home and thats all we are trying to do. If you guys feel that its ok to expose your kids to things that will force them to grow up sooner than go ahead but for me I want my kids to remain kids for as long as they need to.

April - posted on 06/27/2009

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Quoting LaCi:

There is really no point in arguing with amanda. Her children are raised in a perfectly sterile, sex free, reality free home.

That being said it seems to be a consensus among board members that sex is evil, everything should be censored, and god is almighty. So with that, I'm out.



sex free?



 



doubt that since she has two children.



 



you people are unbelivable.

April - posted on 06/27/2009

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WOW.



You are the one that even wrote that your daughter knows that girls like that have no self repect and to you that means a slut.



I have nothing else to say to someone who is so incapable of understanding a dictionary word.

LaCi - posted on 06/27/2009

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There is really no point in arguing with amanda. Her children are raised in a perfectly sterile, sex free, reality free home.

That being said it seems to be a consensus among board members that sex is evil, everything should be censored, and god is almighty. So with that, I'm out.

Amanda - posted on 06/27/2009

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Quoting April:



Quoting Amanda:




Quoting April:





Quoting Amanda:






Quoting April:







Quoting Amanda:









Quoting Melissa:

I don't think they should be banned or anything like that. The glory of america is we all get to make our own choices. I personally don't like bratz in my house because their big heads creep me out. We have a ton of barbies, generally speaking their clothes are very modest, but it doesnt matter because half the time they are naked anyways. Sometimes my apparel even borderlines on slutty, if it's hot I'm wearing as little as possible to stay cool. I think it is about personal parenting choices and how you react. I believe if you are too protective about body image, it can make a child feel ashamed about their own bodies. We all have our own parenting techniques, that's what makes each child an individual.

















I dont think it makes kids ashamed of their bodies to be protective about body image.


















I am not die hard by the book religious although I do believe in god as the creator and most of what goes along with that but I am not sitting in church every sunday and stuff. I do however teach my older daughter (5) that her body is sacred and because it is sacred it is ment to be kept behind modest clothing. I tell ehr that if she loves herself she will keep her self coverd. She already knows that the girls she sees walking in the mall with shorts so short you can see the butt cheeks through the bottoms have no self respect and are dressed like that because they need attention and validation from others in order to feel pretty. People that where trashy clothing are imoral and project the wrong image. They taint the mids of our boys and potentially make other girls feel that they need to look like that in order for people to like them. I have the same talk with my little sister (I am her legal guradian) when she came to live with us she also dressed like a hoochy. After a year she turned around. she no longer wears skirts that show her knees and she doesnt where tank tops unless it is under a low cut t shirt and she is turning 18 and still a virgin so I guess that just comes along with modesty and self respect.


















allow your kids to dress like skanks and they are at risk for premature sex, sexual assult, rape, teen pregnancy , std's, tainted body image and a whole host of other problems. And this is what bratz dolls do. If we can ban and eliminate these gross dolls than that will be one less form of media telling our kids that they need to be a certian way.























I have a few words for you Amanda...















 















One, Bratz dolls aren't "slutty", they are just like Barbies... except they are different color skinned and has a big head, so? who cares. They are just dolls. If you look up the word "slutty" it has nothing to do with clothing...So I looked up slut so you will now know what it really means.











A person, especially a woman, considered sexually promiscuous.

A woman prostitute.









Now, is the Bratz doll promiscuous? no. Is it a prostitute? no.















 















Secondly, wearing shorts and skirts that are short doesn't mean they have no self respect. I myself wear short shorts and skirts, not were my butt cheeks are showing but they are still short. I have lots of self respect for myself, just because I choose to wear those doesn't mean anything. Eseciaplly if it's 90 degrees outside, I will be in a tank top and shorts. I wear my clothes for me, not to get attention... honestly I don't like  the attention that it brings to me, but I'm not gonna be sweating my butt off in pants and a t-shirt just because of what someone else thinks. Also, I know I'm pretty because I feel pretty, even in sweats and a hoodie. Doesn't matter what I have on it's all in the mind of that person.  And frankly, I started wearing clothes like this since I was a teenager and I didn't have sex until I was 20, going on 21. So what I'm saying is someone can have self respect and still dress like that.















 















Thirtly, If we banned the dolls then we would have to ban almost everything in the world. But will that happen? No. It's always going to be around for years to come. It's not the clothes that are leading to premature sex, etc. Parents need to talk to their kids about sex and everything that goes with it. It's the parents job and responsiably to make sure their children knows the cautions of having sex.















 















Lastly,  since you meantioned you wont' buy spandex for your daughters barbie... why on earth would you buy spandex for her to wear and then show it to the world?


















your term slut is very fitting for a bratz doll. they look like prostitues the that I see down town all the time. actually i think the prostitutes here in saskatoon where a bit more clothing than the bratz dolls.















It's my not term, it's what the dictionary says "slut" is, if you didn't understand that the first time.










 










I just don't get why you have to keep referring to the term "slut". It's really annoying and disresceptful.










 










And for you saying your daughter is in gym whatever... wearing spandex outfits so people can see every inch of your daughters body. What a great idea, confusing your daugther from a young age.










 










Some parents just don't get it, they never will and there is no use for them.










 










ENd of Story.












yeah no kidding, a small majority of you dont get it.the dolls present a trashy image to our children.








my daughter is not confused, even at 5 she seems to be smarter than you. she understands that there are things we wear swimming that we dont wear shopping, things we wear to gymnastics that we dont wear to dinner, things we wear to ballet that we dont wear to the park. get it? or is it confuesing you. the bratz dolls are not gymnist bratz or swim team bratz they are just students and students dont dress like that unless they are houchys. my daughter is not showing every inch of her body, just legs and arms. I think you attacking my 5 year old daughter is cruel and ignorant, yes ignorant because you just dont seem to understand that there is a diference between athletic dress and everyday dress. am I suposed to make my daughter wear t shirts and sweats when the dress code for advanced athletes specifies tight fitting spandex shorts and tanks? christ should I make her wear a turtle neck and jeans when she goes to swim class as well?








It is obvious that your children are not in competitive sports therefor you dont know what you are talking about.








END OF STORY










Because in my eyes Bratz dolls aren't trashy, and you totally turned around what you say from before. I know that you don't wear a tshirt and shorts in the water, I'm not dumb. But you calling people that wear shorts and tank top that are showing off some skin sluts. Which is very rude, IMO. Dress codes are one thing, but not letting your daughter play with the doll is fine that's your choice, but the reason I'm upset is because you are calling everyone out there that wears short shorts and showing a little 'skin' a slut. And I highly doubt you never wore anything like that before. So what I'm saying is to stop calling people and the dolls sluts because the dolls can't be sluts, like I say before, you didn't get that I guess.






 






And actually I am way smarter then your daughter and you. I would never let my daughter walk around calling people slutty just because mommy is a prune.





My child has never even heard the word slut. she knows words like inapropriate and immodest. and it seems you are not that smart because you are insulting a 5 year old child. and about you saying you doubt i have not worn skanky clothing. NOPE never have, most revealing clothing I have worn is a spaghetti strap tank top that came to my waist and showed my sholders. I wore jeans with them, and nope they were not low rise they were regular boot cut denim.



please stay off my thread. you have nothing good to contribute and your anoying me.

April - posted on 06/27/2009

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Quoting Amanda:



Quoting April:




Quoting Amanda:





Quoting April:






Quoting Amanda:








Quoting Melissa:

I don't think they should be banned or anything like that. The glory of america is we all get to make our own choices. I personally don't like bratz in my house because their big heads creep me out. We have a ton of barbies, generally speaking their clothes are very modest, but it doesnt matter because half the time they are naked anyways. Sometimes my apparel even borderlines on slutty, if it's hot I'm wearing as little as possible to stay cool. I think it is about personal parenting choices and how you react. I believe if you are too protective about body image, it can make a child feel ashamed about their own bodies. We all have our own parenting techniques, that's what makes each child an individual.















I dont think it makes kids ashamed of their bodies to be protective about body image.
















I am not die hard by the book religious although I do believe in god as the creator and most of what goes along with that but I am not sitting in church every sunday and stuff. I do however teach my older daughter (5) that her body is sacred and because it is sacred it is ment to be kept behind modest clothing. I tell ehr that if she loves herself she will keep her self coverd. She already knows that the girls she sees walking in the mall with shorts so short you can see the butt cheeks through the bottoms have no self respect and are dressed like that because they need attention and validation from others in order to feel pretty. People that where trashy clothing are imoral and project the wrong image. They taint the mids of our boys and potentially make other girls feel that they need to look like that in order for people to like them. I have the same talk with my little sister (I am her legal guradian) when she came to live with us she also dressed like a hoochy. After a year she turned around. she no longer wears skirts that show her knees and she doesnt where tank tops unless it is under a low cut t shirt and she is turning 18 and still a virgin so I guess that just comes along with modesty and self respect.
















allow your kids to dress like skanks and they are at risk for premature sex, sexual assult, rape, teen pregnancy , std's, tainted body image and a whole host of other problems. And this is what bratz dolls do. If we can ban and eliminate these gross dolls than that will be one less form of media telling our kids that they need to be a certian way.




















I have a few words for you Amanda...













 













One, Bratz dolls aren't "slutty", they are just like Barbies... except they are different color skinned and has a big head, so? who cares. They are just dolls. If you look up the word "slutty" it has nothing to do with clothing...So I looked up slut so you will now know what it really means.










A person, especially a woman, considered sexually promiscuous.

A woman prostitute.








Now, is the Bratz doll promiscuous? no. Is it a prostitute? no.













 













Secondly, wearing shorts and skirts that are short doesn't mean they have no self respect. I myself wear short shorts and skirts, not were my butt cheeks are showing but they are still short. I have lots of self respect for myself, just because I choose to wear those doesn't mean anything. Eseciaplly if it's 90 degrees outside, I will be in a tank top and shorts. I wear my clothes for me, not to get attention... honestly I don't like  the attention that it brings to me, but I'm not gonna be sweating my butt off in pants and a t-shirt just because of what someone else thinks. Also, I know I'm pretty because I feel pretty, even in sweats and a hoodie. Doesn't matter what I have on it's all in the mind of that person.  And frankly, I started wearing clothes like this since I was a teenager and I didn't have sex until I was 20, going on 21. So what I'm saying is someone can have self respect and still dress like that.













 













Thirtly, If we banned the dolls then we would have to ban almost everything in the world. But will that happen? No. It's always going to be around for years to come. It's not the clothes that are leading to premature sex, etc. Parents need to talk to their kids about sex and everything that goes with it. It's the parents job and responsiably to make sure their children knows the cautions of having sex.













 













Lastly,  since you meantioned you wont' buy spandex for your daughters barbie... why on earth would you buy spandex for her to wear and then show it to the world?















your term slut is very fitting for a bratz doll. they look like prostitues the that I see down town all the time. actually i think the prostitutes here in saskatoon where a bit more clothing than the bratz dolls.












It's my not term, it's what the dictionary says "slut" is, if you didn't understand that the first time.








 








I just don't get why you have to keep referring to the term "slut". It's really annoying and disresceptful.








 








And for you saying your daughter is in gym whatever... wearing spandex outfits so people can see every inch of your daughters body. What a great idea, confusing your daugther from a young age.








 








Some parents just don't get it, they never will and there is no use for them.








 








ENd of Story.









yeah no kidding, a small majority of you dont get it.the dolls present a trashy image to our children.






my daughter is not confused, even at 5 she seems to be smarter than you. she understands that there are things we wear swimming that we dont wear shopping, things we wear to gymnastics that we dont wear to dinner, things we wear to ballet that we dont wear to the park. get it? or is it confuesing you. the bratz dolls are not gymnist bratz or swim team bratz they are just students and students dont dress like that unless they are houchys. my daughter is not showing every inch of her body, just legs and arms. I think you attacking my 5 year old daughter is cruel and ignorant, yes ignorant because you just dont seem to understand that there is a diference between athletic dress and everyday dress. am I suposed to make my daughter wear t shirts and sweats when the dress code for advanced athletes specifies tight fitting spandex shorts and tanks? christ should I make her wear a turtle neck and jeans when she goes to swim class as well?






It is obvious that your children are not in competitive sports therefor you dont know what you are talking about.






END OF STORY






Because in my eyes Bratz dolls aren't trashy, and you totally turned around what you say from before. I know that you don't wear a tshirt and shorts in the water, I'm not dumb. But you calling people that wear shorts and tank top that are showing off some skin sluts. Which is very rude, IMO. Dress codes are one thing, but not letting your daughter play with the doll is fine that's your choice, but the reason I'm upset is because you are calling everyone out there that wears short shorts and showing a little 'skin' a slut. And I highly doubt you never wore anything like that before. So what I'm saying is to stop calling people and the dolls sluts because the dolls can't be sluts, like I say before, you didn't get that I guess.



 



And actually I am way smarter then your daughter and you. I would never let my daughter walk around calling people slutty just because mommy is a prune.

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Quoting April:



Quoting Amanda:




Quoting April:





Quoting Amanda:







Quoting Melissa:

I don't think they should be banned or anything like that. The glory of america is we all get to make our own choices. I personally don't like bratz in my house because their big heads creep me out. We have a ton of barbies, generally speaking their clothes are very modest, but it doesnt matter because half the time they are naked anyways. Sometimes my apparel even borderlines on slutty, if it's hot I'm wearing as little as possible to stay cool. I think it is about personal parenting choices and how you react. I believe if you are too protective about body image, it can make a child feel ashamed about their own bodies. We all have our own parenting techniques, that's what makes each child an individual.













I dont think it makes kids ashamed of their bodies to be protective about body image.














I am not die hard by the book religious although I do believe in god as the creator and most of what goes along with that but I am not sitting in church every sunday and stuff. I do however teach my older daughter (5) that her body is sacred and because it is sacred it is ment to be kept behind modest clothing. I tell ehr that if she loves herself she will keep her self coverd. She already knows that the girls she sees walking in the mall with shorts so short you can see the butt cheeks through the bottoms have no self respect and are dressed like that because they need attention and validation from others in order to feel pretty. People that where trashy clothing are imoral and project the wrong image. They taint the mids of our boys and potentially make other girls feel that they need to look like that in order for people to like them. I have the same talk with my little sister (I am her legal guradian) when she came to live with us she also dressed like a hoochy. After a year she turned around. she no longer wears skirts that show her knees and she doesnt where tank tops unless it is under a low cut t shirt and she is turning 18 and still a virgin so I guess that just comes along with modesty and self respect.














allow your kids to dress like skanks and they are at risk for premature sex, sexual assult, rape, teen pregnancy , std's, tainted body image and a whole host of other problems. And this is what bratz dolls do. If we can ban and eliminate these gross dolls than that will be one less form of media telling our kids that they need to be a certian way.

















I have a few words for you Amanda...











 











One, Bratz dolls aren't "slutty", they are just like Barbies... except they are different color skinned and has a big head, so? who cares. They are just dolls. If you look up the word "slutty" it has nothing to do with clothing...So I looked up slut so you will now know what it really means.









A person, especially a woman, considered sexually promiscuous.

A woman prostitute.







Now, is the Bratz doll promiscuous? no. Is it a prostitute? no.











 











Secondly, wearing shorts and skirts that are short doesn't mean they have no self respect. I myself wear short shorts and skirts, not were my butt cheeks are showing but they are still short. I have lots of self respect for myself, just because I choose to wear those doesn't mean anything. Eseciaplly if it's 90 degrees outside, I will be in a tank top and shorts. I wear my clothes for me, not to get attention... honestly I don't like  the attention that it brings to me, but I'm not gonna be sweating my butt off in pants and a t-shirt just because of what someone else thinks. Also, I know I'm pretty because I feel pretty, even in sweats and a hoodie. Doesn't matter what I have on it's all in the mind of that person.  And frankly, I started wearing clothes like this since I was a teenager and I didn't have sex until I was 20, going on 21. So what I'm saying is someone can have self respect and still dress like that.











 











Thirtly, If we banned the dolls then we would have to ban almost everything in the world. But will that happen? No. It's always going to be around for years to come. It's not the clothes that are leading to premature sex, etc. Parents need to talk to their kids about sex and everything that goes with it. It's the parents job and responsiably to make sure their children knows the cautions of having sex.











 











Lastly,  since you meantioned you wont' buy spandex for your daughters barbie... why on earth would you buy spandex for her to wear and then show it to the world?












your term slut is very fitting for a bratz doll. they look like prostitues the that I see down town all the time. actually i think the prostitutes here in saskatoon where a bit more clothing than the bratz dolls.









It's my not term, it's what the dictionary says "slut" is, if you didn't understand that the first time.






 






I just don't get why you have to keep referring to the term "slut". It's really annoying and disresceptful.






 






And for you saying your daughter is in gym whatever... wearing spandex outfits so people can see every inch of your daughters body. What a great idea, confusing your daugther from a young age.






 






Some parents just don't get it, they never will and there is no use for them.






 






ENd of Story.





yeah no kidding, a small majority of you dont get it.the dolls present a trashy image to our children.



my daughter is not confused, even at 5 she seems to be smarter than you. she understands that there are things we wear swimming that we dont wear shopping, things we wear to gymnastics that we dont wear to dinner, things we wear to ballet that we dont wear to the park. get it? or is it confuesing you. the bratz dolls are not gymnist bratz or swim team bratz they are just students and students dont dress like that unless they are houchys. my daughter is not showing every inch of her body, just legs and arms. I think you attacking my 5 year old daughter is cruel and ignorant, yes ignorant because you just dont seem to understand that there is a diference between athletic dress and everyday dress. am I suposed to make my daughter wear t shirts and sweats when the dress code for advanced athletes specifies tight fitting spandex shorts and tanks? christ should I make her wear a turtle neck and jeans when she goes to swim class as well?



It is obvious that your children are not in competitive sports therefor you dont know what you are talking about.



END OF STORY

April - posted on 06/27/2009

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Quoting Amanda:



Quoting April:




Quoting Amanda:






Quoting Melissa:

I don't think they should be banned or anything like that. The glory of america is we all get to make our own choices. I personally don't like bratz in my house because their big heads creep me out. We have a ton of barbies, generally speaking their clothes are very modest, but it doesnt matter because half the time they are naked anyways. Sometimes my apparel even borderlines on slutty, if it's hot I'm wearing as little as possible to stay cool. I think it is about personal parenting choices and how you react. I believe if you are too protective about body image, it can make a child feel ashamed about their own bodies. We all have our own parenting techniques, that's what makes each child an individual.











I dont think it makes kids ashamed of their bodies to be protective about body image.












I am not die hard by the book religious although I do believe in god as the creator and most of what goes along with that but I am not sitting in church every sunday and stuff. I do however teach my older daughter (5) that her body is sacred and because it is sacred it is ment to be kept behind modest clothing. I tell ehr that if she loves herself she will keep her self coverd. She already knows that the girls she sees walking in the mall with shorts so short you can see the butt cheeks through the bottoms have no self respect and are dressed like that because they need attention and validation from others in order to feel pretty. People that where trashy clothing are imoral and project the wrong image. They taint the mids of our boys and potentially make other girls feel that they need to look like that in order for people to like them. I have the same talk with my little sister (I am her legal guradian) when she came to live with us she also dressed like a hoochy. After a year she turned around. she no longer wears skirts that show her knees and she doesnt where tank tops unless it is under a low cut t shirt and she is turning 18 and still a virgin so I guess that just comes along with modesty and self respect.












allow your kids to dress like skanks and they are at risk for premature sex, sexual assult, rape, teen pregnancy , std's, tainted body image and a whole host of other problems. And this is what bratz dolls do. If we can ban and eliminate these gross dolls than that will be one less form of media telling our kids that they need to be a certian way.














I have a few words for you Amanda...









 









One, Bratz dolls aren't "slutty", they are just like Barbies... except they are different color skinned and has a big head, so? who cares. They are just dolls. If you look up the word "slutty" it has nothing to do with clothing...So I looked up slut so you will now know what it really means.








A person, especially a woman, considered sexually promiscuous.

A woman prostitute.






Now, is the Bratz doll promiscuous? no. Is it a prostitute? no.









 









Secondly, wearing shorts and skirts that are short doesn't mean they have no self respect. I myself wear short shorts and skirts, not were my butt cheeks are showing but they are still short. I have lots of self respect for myself, just because I choose to wear those doesn't mean anything. Eseciaplly if it's 90 degrees outside, I will be in a tank top and shorts. I wear my clothes for me, not to get attention... honestly I don't like  the attention that it brings to me, but I'm not gonna be sweating my butt off in pants and a t-shirt just because of what someone else thinks. Also, I know I'm pretty because I feel pretty, even in sweats and a hoodie. Doesn't matter what I have on it's all in the mind of that person.  And frankly, I started wearing clothes like this since I was a teenager and I didn't have sex until I was 20, going on 21. So what I'm saying is someone can have self respect and still dress like that.









 









Thirtly, If we banned the dolls then we would have to ban almost everything in the world. But will that happen? No. It's always going to be around for years to come. It's not the clothes that are leading to premature sex, etc. Parents need to talk to their kids about sex and everything that goes with it. It's the parents job and responsiably to make sure their children knows the cautions of having sex.









 









Lastly,  since you meantioned you wont' buy spandex for your daughters barbie... why on earth would you buy spandex for her to wear and then show it to the world?









your term slut is very fitting for a bratz doll. they look like prostitues the that I see down town all the time. actually i think the prostitutes here in saskatoon where a bit more clothing than the bratz dolls.





It's my not term, it's what the dictionary says "slut" is, if you didn't understand that the first time.



 



I just don't get why you have to keep referring to the term "slut". It's really annoying and disresceptful.



 



And for you saying your daughter is in gym whatever... wearing spandex outfits so people can see every inch of your daughters body. What a great idea, confusing your daugther from a young age.



 



Some parents just don't get it, they never will and there is no use for them.



 



ENd of Story.

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There's a lot of sexual anxiety about. I personally don't like bratz dolls, they are gross and creepy, but when I visit these threads I feel like I've gone back 8 decades, as far as sexual mindset goes. I can't imagine being so paranoid.

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First of all...I thought I was alone on the Bratz dolls! I'm so glad to hear so many other moms not letting their kids have them! I think they look like hookers in a box. I think there is a big difference between Bratz and Barbies though. Barbie isn't slutty, she's glamourous. Like a beauty queen. I remember playing with peaches n cream barbie, or barbie and the rockers. Even the swimsuit one. Back then Barbies had big boobs, small waists, and long legs. I never had a negative self image because of her. I never compared a doll's physique to that of my own...good thing, too, because I had a lot of Cabbage Patch dolls! LOLOL

I know the only Barbies I would not buy for my girls are the ones with the tattoos and weird stuff like that. Our family pretty much knows where we stand on the Bratz dolls, but if my kids were to get one and we couldn't return it to the store, I would encourage my daughter to take it to Goodwill and then I'd treat her with a trip to Toys r Us.





I never did like Barbie... I used to pop the heads off and string them up like a fetish.  >:}






 






...maybe that's why I have issues.





haha! my cousin and i used to rip all their limbs off and string them from the ceiling. glad to know i'm not the only disturbed person here :)

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The bratz dolls are skanky ass hos. My family and friends know that the dolls and merchandise are a big no no in our home. I never had a barbie but there was one at my aunty's house and whenever I was there I played with her. It was a choice of ball gowns or sports gear though. I'm in the process of knitting a doll and various outfits for my daughters 3rd birthday so thankfully won't have to go anywhere near a toy store! Clothing wise if my 2 1/2 year old is wearing a skirt then she has leggings underneath it and I avoid slogan T Shirts. There are some out there that are just plain dodgy. I think appropriate clothing for what your doing for eg beach -rash suit and hat, park - pants, summer- very light 100% cotton clothing. I would of thought it common sense really. Return the gifts to the people who brought them. Say thank you for the thought but they are not appropriate for your family. Or hand them over to charity.

Amanda - posted on 06/26/2009

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Quoting April:



Quoting Amanda:





Quoting Melissa:

I don't think they should be banned or anything like that. The glory of america is we all get to make our own choices. I personally don't like bratz in my house because their big heads creep me out. We have a ton of barbies, generally speaking their clothes are very modest, but it doesnt matter because half the time they are naked anyways. Sometimes my apparel even borderlines on slutty, if it's hot I'm wearing as little as possible to stay cool. I think it is about personal parenting choices and how you react. I believe if you are too protective about body image, it can make a child feel ashamed about their own bodies. We all have our own parenting techniques, that's what makes each child an individual.









I dont think it makes kids ashamed of their bodies to be protective about body image.










I am not die hard by the book religious although I do believe in god as the creator and most of what goes along with that but I am not sitting in church every sunday and stuff. I do however teach my older daughter (5) that her body is sacred and because it is sacred it is ment to be kept behind modest clothing. I tell ehr that if she loves herself she will keep her self coverd. She already knows that the girls she sees walking in the mall with shorts so short you can see the butt cheeks through the bottoms have no self respect and are dressed like that because they need attention and validation from others in order to feel pretty. People that where trashy clothing are imoral and project the wrong image. They taint the mids of our boys and potentially make other girls feel that they need to look like that in order for people to like them. I have the same talk with my little sister (I am her legal guradian) when she came to live with us she also dressed like a hoochy. After a year she turned around. she no longer wears skirts that show her knees and she doesnt where tank tops unless it is under a low cut t shirt and she is turning 18 and still a virgin so I guess that just comes along with modesty and self respect.










allow your kids to dress like skanks and they are at risk for premature sex, sexual assult, rape, teen pregnancy , std's, tainted body image and a whole host of other problems. And this is what bratz dolls do. If we can ban and eliminate these gross dolls than that will be one less form of media telling our kids that they need to be a certian way.











I have a few words for you Amanda...







 







One, Bratz dolls aren't "slutty", they are just like Barbies... except they are different color skinned and has a big head, so? who cares. They are just dolls. If you look up the word "slutty" it has nothing to do with clothing...So I looked up slut so you will now know what it really means.







A person, especially a woman, considered sexually promiscuous.

A woman prostitute.





Now, is the Bratz doll promiscuous? no. Is it a prostitute? no.







 







Secondly, wearing shorts and skirts that are short doesn't mean they have no self respect. I myself wear short shorts and skirts, not were my butt cheeks are showing but they are still short. I have lots of self respect for myself, just because I choose to wear those doesn't mean anything. Eseciaplly if it's 90 degrees outside, I will be in a tank top and shorts. I wear my clothes for me, not to get attention... honestly I don't like  the attention that it brings to me, but I'm not gonna be sweating my butt off in pants and a t-shirt just because of what someone else thinks. Also, I know I'm pretty because I feel pretty, even in sweats and a hoodie. Doesn't matter what I have on it's all in the mind of that person.  And frankly, I started wearing clothes like this since I was a teenager and I didn't have sex until I was 20, going on 21. So what I'm saying is someone can have self respect and still dress like that.







 







Thirtly, If we banned the dolls then we would have to ban almost everything in the world. But will that happen? No. It's always going to be around for years to come. It's not the clothes that are leading to premature sex, etc. Parents need to talk to their kids about sex and everything that goes with it. It's the parents job and responsiably to make sure their children knows the cautions of having sex.







 







Lastly,  since you meantioned you wont' buy spandex for your daughters barbie... why on earth would you buy spandex for her to wear and then show it to the world?





your term slut is very fitting for a bratz doll. they look like prostitues the that I see down town all the time. actually i think the prostitutes here in saskatoon where a bit more clothing than the bratz dolls.

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Quoting Carrie:



Quoting Amanda:




Quoting Carrie:

Ok I don't know if I am the only one on earth, but I use to play with barbies and never thought about how they looked and I also use to watch fighting cartoons like TMNT and stuff and never got in any fights. So really I don't see what the big deal is with dolls, because thats exactly what they are is dolls. Also you control what your kids wear not the dolls so don't buy clothes that can look bad. Just let kids be kids. Teach your kids that looks aren't everything and they look fine the way they are. I am sick of all the drama from people about dolls. Or that tv shows change the way kids behave. It's just crazy. My generation grew up knowing that its tv not real. Thats all that matters. My kids love Dragon Ball Z and its all fighting and they don't go around starting fights, b/c we teach them not too. People expect tv to raise there kids and thats not the case you have to raise you kids. So like me or hate what I said its now I feel and I don't judge how people raise there kids, but mine are fine and have a bratz doll and watch fighting cartoons.







well majority dont want their kids exposed to crap like that which is why we have a problem with the slutty little dolls









I just fell like kids will see it one way or another and thats all that there is too it.  I also don't fell like they are slutty... why do girls/women have to be slutty when they dress up... kids your right should never dress like that and that is why we as parents have the option to buy proper clothes for our children.  Also sorry I don't think it's crap... Maybe because I am a younger mother who knows, but I don't get blocking the world from kids so when they do get out to that same world it is over welming.





I to am a younger mom (24) I had my daughter at 19. some of us younger moms have morals, I think (and i know im not alone here) bratz dolls should not be played with. there make up is over done and they are under dressed. it has nothing to do with the multiculturalisim as to why people dont like them. my daughter has plenty of hispanic barbies and baby dolls and the cabbage patch babies have curly hair. the dolls are crap, they were marketed because sex sells and they pass over an image to our children that they need to dress like that to be "in" the dolls are aimed at kids aged 4-8 and personally I think that selling something with that style of clothing to such a young child is imoral.



barbies are not the same as bratz. barbies have clothing that covers them and when they are wearing reveling stuff it is usally a swim suit (bech barbie) or spandex (gymnist barbie) notice a theme here? mattel is not dressing teacher barbie up as the town hoe. teacher barbie actually looks like a teacher. every bratz doll i have seen looks like a plastic peg legged skank. barbie also isnt coverd in tons of make up and eye liner beauty marks. a little lip color and light eye shadow is all barbie has. I dont know how you people can even tell what culture a specific bratz is suposed to represent because they have so much make up painted on.



Also with the multi cultural aspect, do you really want your daughters to get the idea that minorities dress like skanks and wear tons of make up? I dont want my mexican daughters to think that all mexican girls need to look like senorita skanks to be popular.



your last comment. bratz are fairly new on the market and our children did just fine without them. I really doubt that by eliminating bratz and other forms of sex in the media that our kids will be overwhelmed int he real world. Actually it is quite the opposite. they wont feel preasured to dress, look and act like that.

Amanda - posted on 06/26/2009

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Quoting April:



Quoting Amanda:





Quoting Melissa:

I don't think they should be banned or anything like that. The glory of america is we all get to make our own choices. I personally don't like bratz in my house because their big heads creep me out. We have a ton of barbies, generally speaking their clothes are very modest, but it doesnt matter because half the time they are naked anyways. Sometimes my apparel even borderlines on slutty, if it's hot I'm wearing as little as possible to stay cool. I think it is about personal parenting choices and how you react. I believe if you are too protective about body image, it can make a child feel ashamed about their own bodies. We all have our own parenting techniques, that's what makes each child an individual.









I dont think it makes kids ashamed of their bodies to be protective about body image.










I am not die hard by the book religious although I do believe in god as the creator and most of what goes along with that but I am not sitting in church every sunday and stuff. I do however teach my older daughter (5) that her body is sacred and because it is sacred it is ment to be kept behind modest clothing. I tell ehr that if she loves herself she will keep her self coverd. She already knows that the girls she sees walking in the mall with shorts so short you can see the butt cheeks through the bottoms have no self respect and are dressed like that because they need attention and validation from others in order to feel pretty. People that where trashy clothing are imoral and project the wrong image. They taint the mids of our boys and potentially make other girls feel that they need to look like that in order for people to like them. I have the same talk with my little sister (I am her legal guradian) when she came to live with us she also dressed like a hoochy. After a year she turned around. she no longer wears skirts that show her knees and she doesnt where tank tops unless it is under a low cut t shirt and she is turning 18 and still a virgin so I guess that just comes along with modesty and self respect.










allow your kids to dress like skanks and they are at risk for premature sex, sexual assult, rape, teen pregnancy , std's, tainted body image and a whole host of other problems. And this is what bratz dolls do. If we can ban and eliminate these gross dolls than that will be one less form of media telling our kids that they need to be a certian way.











I have a few words for you Amanda...







 







One, Bratz dolls aren't "slutty", they are just like Barbies... except they are different color skinned and has a big head, so? who cares. They are just dolls. If you look up the word "slutty" it has nothing to do with clothing...So I looked up slut so you will now know what it really means.







A person, especially a woman, considered sexually promiscuous.

A woman prostitute.





Now, is the Bratz doll promiscuous? no. Is it a prostitute? no.







 







Secondly, wearing shorts and skirts that are short doesn't mean they have no self respect. I myself wear short shorts and skirts, not were my butt cheeks are showing but they are still short. I have lots of self respect for myself, just because I choose to wear those doesn't mean anything. Eseciaplly if it's 90 degrees outside, I will be in a tank top and shorts. I wear my clothes for me, not to get attention... honestly I don't like  the attention that it brings to me, but I'm not gonna be sweating my butt off in pants and a t-shirt just because of what someone else thinks. Also, I know I'm pretty because I feel pretty, even in sweats and a hoodie. Doesn't matter what I have on it's all in the mind of that person.  And frankly, I started wearing clothes like this since I was a teenager and I didn't have sex until I was 20, going on 21. So what I'm saying is someone can have self respect and still dress like that.







 







Thirtly, If we banned the dolls then we would have to ban almost everything in the world. But will that happen? No. It's always going to be around for years to come. It's not the clothes that are leading to premature sex, etc. Parents need to talk to their kids about sex and everything that goes with it. It's the parents job and responsiably to make sure their children knows the cautions of having sex.







 







Lastly,  since you meantioned you wont' buy spandex for your daughters barbie... why on earth would you buy spandex for her to wear and then show it to the world?





my daughter is a gymnist. she has been in gymnastics for 4 years. the outfit she is wearing in the photo was her first real "flip gear" she wanted me to take a photo so we could put it on facebook for our family to see. they are far away from us ad photos are one of the ways we keep in touch. there is a diference between an athlete wearing athletic clothing and someone wearing skanky stuff in public.

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i was actually able to find some bratz dolls at zellers that were completely covered. also if you are creative i made some clothes for the dolls at home my daughter and i made it a fun project, she really enjoyed it.

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Quoting April:



Quoting Amanda:




Quoting Melissa:

I don't think they should be banned or anything like that. The glory of america is we all get to make our own choices. I personally don't like bratz in my house because their big heads creep me out. We have a ton of barbies, generally speaking their clothes are very modest, but it doesnt matter because half the time they are naked anyways. Sometimes my apparel even borderlines on slutty, if it's hot I'm wearing as little as possible to stay cool. I think it is about personal parenting choices and how you react. I believe if you are too protective about body image, it can make a child feel ashamed about their own bodies. We all have our own parenting techniques, that's what makes each child an individual.







I dont think it makes kids ashamed of their bodies to be protective about body image.








I am not die hard by the book religious although I do believe in god as the creator and most of what goes along with that but I am not sitting in church every sunday and stuff. I do however teach my older daughter (5) that her body is sacred and because it is sacred it is ment to be kept behind modest clothing. I tell ehr that if she loves herself she will keep her self coverd. She already knows that the girls she sees walking in the mall with shorts so short you can see the butt cheeks through the bottoms have no self respect and are dressed like that because they need attention and validation from others in order to feel pretty. People that where trashy clothing are imoral and project the wrong image. They taint the mids of our boys and potentially make other girls feel that they need to look like that in order for people to like them. I have the same talk with my little sister (I am her legal guradian) when she came to live with us she also dressed like a hoochy. After a year she turned around. she no longer wears skirts that show her knees and she doesnt where tank tops unless it is under a low cut t shirt and she is turning 18 and still a virgin so I guess that just comes along with modesty and self respect.








allow your kids to dress like skanks and they are at risk for premature sex, sexual assult, rape, teen pregnancy , std's, tainted body image and a whole host of other problems. And this is what bratz dolls do. If we can ban and eliminate these gross dolls than that will be one less form of media telling our kids that they need to be a certian way.









I have a few words for you Melissa...






 






One, Bratz dolls aren't "slutty", they are just like Barbies... except they are different color skinned and has a big head, so? who cares. They are just dolls. If you look up the word "slutty" it has nothing to do with clothing...So I looked up slut so you will now know what it really means.





A person, especially a woman, considered sexually promiscuous.
A woman prostitute.



Now, is the Bratz doll promiscuous? no. Is it a prostitute? no.






 






Secondly, wearing shorts and skirts that are short doesn't mean they have no self respect. I myself wear short shorts and skirts, not were my butt cheeks are showing but they are still short. I have lots of self respect for myself, just because I choose to wear those doesn't mean anything. Eseciaplly if it's 90 degrees outside, I will be in a tank top and shorts. I wear my clothes for me, not to get attention... honestly I don't like  the attention that it brings to me, but I'm not gonna be sweating my butt off in pants and a t-shirt just because of what someone else thinks. Also, I know I'm pretty because I feel pretty, even in sweats and a hoodie. Doesn't matter what I have on it's all in the mind of that person.  And frankly, I started wearing clothes like this since I was a teenager and I didn't have sex until I was 20, going on 21. So what I'm saying is someone can have self respect and still dress like that.






 






Thirtly, If we banned the dolls then we would have to ban almost everything in the world. But will that happen? No. It's always going to be around for years to come. It's not the clothes that are leading to premature sex, etc. Parents need to talk to their kids about sex and everything that goes with it. It's the parents job and responsiably to make sure their children knows the cautions of having sex.






 






Lastly,  since you meantioned you wont' buy spandex for your daughters barbie... why on earth would you buy spandex for her to wear and then show it to the world?





Um.... I am pretty sure that was towards Amanda...

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I don't think they should be banned or anything like that. The glory of america is we all get to make our own choices. I personally don't like bratz in my house because their big heads creep me out. We have a ton of barbies, generally speaking their clothes are very modest, but it doesnt matter because half the time they are naked anyways. Sometimes my apparel even borderlines on slutty, if it's hot I'm wearing as little as possible to stay cool. I think it is about personal parenting choices and how you react. I believe if you are too protective about body image, it can make a child feel ashamed about their own bodies. We all have our own parenting techniques, that's what makes each child an individual.







I dont think it makes kids ashamed of their bodies to be protective about body image.








I am not die hard by the book religious although I do believe in god as the creator and most of what goes along with that but I am not sitting in church every sunday and stuff. I do however teach my older daughter (5) that her body is sacred and because it is sacred it is ment to be kept behind modest clothing. I tell ehr that if she loves herself she will keep her self coverd. She already knows that the girls she sees walking in the mall with shorts so short you can see the butt cheeks through the bottoms have no self respect and are dressed like that because they need attention and validation from others in order to feel pretty. People that where trashy clothing are imoral and project the wrong image. They taint the mids of our boys and potentially make other girls feel that they need to look like that in order for people to like them. I have the same talk with my little sister (I am her legal guradian) when she came to live with us she also dressed like a hoochy. After a year she turned around. she no longer wears skirts that show her knees and she doesnt where tank tops unless it is under a low cut t shirt and she is turning 18 and still a virgin so I guess that just comes along with modesty and self respect.








allow your kids to dress like skanks and they are at risk for premature sex, sexual assult, rape, teen pregnancy , std's, tainted body image and a whole host of other problems. And this is what bratz dolls do. If we can ban and eliminate these gross dolls than that will be one less form of media telling our kids that they need to be a certian way.







I have a few words for you Amanda...




 




One, Bratz dolls aren't "slutty", they are just like Barbies... except they are different color skinned and has a big head, so? who cares. They are just dolls. If you look up the word "slutty" it has nothing to do with clothing...So I looked up slut so you will now know what it really means.







A person, especially a woman, considered sexually promiscuous.


A woman prostitute.





Now, is the Bratz doll promiscuous? no. Is it a prostitute? no.




 




Secondly, wearing shorts and skirts that are short doesn't mean they have no self respect. I myself wear short shorts and skirts, not were my butt cheeks are showing but they are still short. I have lots of self respect for myself, just because I choose to wear those doesn't mean anything. Eseciaplly if it's 90 degrees outside, I will be in a tank top and shorts. I wear my clothes for me, not to get attention... honestly I don't like  the attention that it brings to me, but I'm not gonna be sweating my butt off in pants and a t-shirt just because of what someone else thinks. Also, I know I'm pretty because I feel pretty, even in sweats and a hoodie. Doesn't matter what I have on it's all in the mind of that person.  And frankly, I started wearing clothes like this since I was a teenager and I didn't have sex until I was 20, going on 21. So what I'm saying is someone can have self respect and still dress like that.




 




Thirtly, If we banned the dolls then we would have to ban almost everything in the world. But will that happen? No. It's always going to be around for years to come. It's not the clothes that are leading to premature sex, etc. Parents need to talk to their kids about sex and everything that goes with it. It's the parents job and responsiably to make sure their children knows the cautions of having sex.




 




Lastly,  since you meantioned you wont' buy spandex for your daughters barbie... why on earth would you buy spandex for her to wear and then show it to the world?

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The bratz baby doll is the only one I will buy for my girls, for me the jazmine and sasha reflect my daughter in looks barbie is too generic and fake. I want something that will look more like how they look. They are more ethnic. There is no other company that i know that will make a african american doll with curly hair not straight. The older doll yes they have excessive make up and short skirts but barbie have always had this unrealistic shape that lil girls look up to, there is no perfect doll out there for little girls yet .


That is just another reason i like them, having biracial children. They really don't make dolls like that and your right its hard to find an African American doll with curly hair or at all.  We have discussed what dolls to buy for my daughter and to me an African American one makes since, seeing is that is how she looks not white, even though we are not, not going to ever get her white dolls but just for her to have something to relate too. It is hard enough for her being biracial.

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Ok I don't know if I am the only one on earth, but I use to play with barbies and never thought about how they looked and I also use to watch fighting cartoons like TMNT and stuff and never got in any fights. So really I don't see what the big deal is with dolls, because thats exactly what they are is dolls. Also you control what your kids wear not the dolls so don't buy clothes that can look bad. Just let kids be kids. Teach your kids that looks aren't everything and they look fine the way they are. I am sick of all the drama from people about dolls. Or that tv shows change the way kids behave. It's just crazy. My generation grew up knowing that its tv not real. Thats all that matters. My kids love Dragon Ball Z and its all fighting and they don't go around starting fights, b/c we teach them not too. People expect tv to raise there kids and thats not the case you have to raise you kids. So like me or hate what I said its now I feel and I don't judge how people raise there kids, but mine are fine and have a bratz doll and watch fighting cartoons.





well majority dont want their kids exposed to crap like that which is why we have a problem with the slutty little dolls





I just fell like kids will see it one way or another and thats all that there is too it.  I also don't fell like they are slutty... why do girls/women have to be slutty when they dress up... kids your right should never dress like that and that is why we as parents have the option to buy proper clothes for our children.  Also sorry I don't think it's crap... Maybe because I am a younger mother who knows, but I don't get blocking the world from kids so when they do get out to that same world it is over welming.

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I am a big fan of cabbage patch dolls they are cute , age appropriate and come in all races !

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this is kind of off topic, but fits in a way... my pet peeve is halloween costumes for little girls these days! they look like the clothes that these dolls wear sometimes! surely that is going too far... I dont see what is wrong with a doll that has on a nice dress... why the toy manufacturers think this is old, or not appealing to the kids these days.. it baffles me!

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I think barbie can be just as bad sometimes. But I find the Bratz dolls ugly. The big heads dont do them justice. I have seen some that are not that bad. Since I worked retail and was in the toy department. My daughters have shown no interest in them but about two years ago my oldest wanted a backpack with the Bratz kidz on it. It wasnt too bad and she didnt want another bag I tried to show her other things that she liked and still no luck. So I let her have it. But if you feel that you do not want her to have it. You could talk to the parents that gave it to her and if you know them well they should understand your decision and respect that. Or yu could try to return it to the store most stores will take it back without a reciept and give you store credit. Then your daughter could go and buy something she likes. And if that doesnt work you could give her the money for the dolls let her buy something she likes and give the dolls to someone else for their birthday. I know that sounds bad but just a thought.

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The bratz baby doll is the only one I will buy for my girls, for me the jazmine and sasha reflect my daughter in looks barbie is too generic and fake. I want something that will look more like how they look. They are more ethnic. There is no other company that i know that will make a african american doll with curly hair not straight. The older doll yes they have excessive make up and short skirts but barbie have always had this unrealistic shape that lil girls look up to, there is no perfect doll out there for little girls yet .



what about a cabbage patch baby instead. My girls are hispanic and they have about 10 hispanic cabbage patch dolls between the 2 of them. My older daughter also has several ethnic barbies including african, hispanic and asian. All of them have a diferent body shape. Not all barbies have the skinny waist and pointy boobs.

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Ok I don't know if I am the only one on earth, but I use to play with barbies and never thought about how they looked and I also use to watch fighting cartoons like TMNT and stuff and never got in any fights. So really I don't see what the big deal is with dolls, because thats exactly what they are is dolls. Also you control what your kids wear not the dolls so don't buy clothes that can look bad. Just let kids be kids. Teach your kids that looks aren't everything and they look fine the way they are. I am sick of all the drama from people about dolls. Or that tv shows change the way kids behave. It's just crazy. My generation grew up knowing that its tv not real. Thats all that matters. My kids love Dragon Ball Z and its all fighting and they don't go around starting fights, b/c we teach them not too. People expect tv to raise there kids and thats not the case you have to raise you kids. So like me or hate what I said its now I feel and I don't judge how people raise there kids, but mine are fine and have a bratz doll and watch fighting cartoons.


I so agree parents need to step up and stop having the media, society  raise their children. Parents have a voice in their children life and we control what our kids wear and listen too. We control who are kids are friends are with all it take is being a parent.

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The bratz baby doll is the only one I will buy for my girls, for me the jazmine and sasha reflect my daughter in looks barbie is too generic and fake. I want something that will look more like how they look. They are more ethnic. There is no other company that i know that will make a african american doll with curly hair not straight. The older doll yes they have excessive make up and short skirts but barbie have always had this unrealistic shape that lil girls look up to, there is no perfect doll out there for little girls yet .

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yeah it shouldnt be that way that women have to watch what they wear all because their are some weak individuals out there who cant help themselves , but unfourtunatly thats how it is ( i wish it wasnt ) , clothes are an extension of who we are they are another form of self expression , there are clothes that say im a professional buisness woman , i am a goth , im a punk , im gym junkie and believe it or not there are clothes that say im cheap and easy ( still dosent mean that they are free to do with as you please ) . each person has a certain style , and yes ive seen bratz dolls and thought wow thats one skanky doll . these dolls and music videos that promote this " style " might not seem to affect them now but what it does is normalise it for them , they grow up and dont see anything wrong wearing a pvc belt as a skirt going out party pashing all the boys and girls ( dont worry its cool everyone does it on MTV )
our culture has become more over sexualised in recent years ive even seen 5 year olds at my school not dancing but grinding in knee high boots and mini skirts and it was disturbing ! It is never a victims fault if something tragic happens but you cant be so blind as to think there arent perverts out there who wont take that " style " as an invitation .



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There is one thing that really bothers me....words on the butt of clothing for little girls. You know, little track suits with "ANGEL" or "PRINCESS" written across the butt?? I really hate that they do that. I mean, its bad enough adult women walk around like that...looking for attention. But to put that on your little girl is sickening to me. Its a shame too because there have been times when I was shopping, saw an adorable outfit, looked at the back of it and had to put it back on the rack. They ruin a perfectly cute outfit by doing that. There's enough dirty old men in the world, I sure ain't going to all but advertise my child's behind to them you know?





i was in the mall the other week and i saw a little girl, probably about nine years old, wearing a shirt that said "check out my bubbles" right across the chest. walking with her mother!!!






that's like giving the creepy old men permission to stare.  i was horified.





That is disgusting....some parents are so ignorant.  Infuriating!!!

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I agree with the majority on here, Bratz dolls are far to scantily dressed and have way too much makeup plastered on their faces for them to be appropriate for anyone to play with other than maybe the playboy bunnies who live at hughs mansion....I do think the company was onto something with the diversity and multicultural element! Would it be to much to ask for them to come up with a series or line of wholesome, age appropriate dressed, smart, fun, sassy girls who dont look like they are headed out to the corner to make this months rent? Maybe if we have some co-ordinated effort of writing to matel ( maker i think maybe?) and requesting a less whored up version of some young pre-teen multicultural, diverse backgrounded girls for our girls to look up to we might just get what we ask for.... We never know until we try!

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I don't think they should be banned or anything like that. The glory of america is we all get to make our own choices. I personally don't like bratz in my house because their big heads creep me out. We have a ton of barbies, generally speaking their clothes are very modest, but it doesnt matter because half the time they are naked anyways. Sometimes my apparel even borderlines on slutty, if it's hot I'm wearing as little as possible to stay cool. I think it is about personal parenting choices and how you react. I believe if you are too protective about body image, it can make a child feel ashamed about their own bodies. We all have our own parenting techniques, that's what makes each child an individual.













I dont think it makes kids ashamed of their bodies to be protective about body image.














I am not die hard by the book religious although I do believe in god as the creator and most of what goes along with that but I am not sitting in church every sunday and stuff. I do however teach my older daughter (5) that her body is sacred and because it is sacred it is ment to be kept behind modest clothing. I tell ehr that if she loves herself she will keep her self coverd. She already knows that the girls she sees walking in the mall with shorts so short you can see the butt cheeks through the bottoms have no self respect and are dressed like that because they need attention and validation from others in order to feel pretty. People that where trashy clothing are imoral and project the wrong image. They taint the mids of our boys and potentially make other girls feel that they need to look like that in order for people to like them. I have the same talk with my little sister (I am her legal guradian) when she came to live with us she also dressed like a hoochy. After a year she turned around. she no longer wears skirts that show her knees and she doesnt where tank tops unless it is under a low cut t shirt and she is turning 18 and still a virgin so I guess that just comes along with modesty and self respect.














allow your kids to dress like skanks and they are at risk for premature sex, sexual assult, rape, teen pregnancy , std's, tainted body image and a whole host of other problems. And this is what bratz dolls do. If we can ban and eliminate these gross dolls than that will be one less form of media telling our kids that they need to be a certian way.


















I agree about the bratz dolls and how they CAN teach our daughters to dress like that and act like that but then i feel thats the parents fault because they have allowed their daughter to be a follower instead of a leader. If we teach our children to as Amanda said love themselves and be an individual and think for themselves as she has obviously done with her sister then it does'nt become a problem. I feel that if were doing our job as mum's properly then our daughters will learn to lead not follow and if we as their mum dress and act appropiate then they will learn from us and not the god dam slutty dolls that we despise. However i dont stop my daughters from playing with barbies at all no matter what their wearing i just teach my daughters that the swim suite ones have on a bra and panties like what mummy wears under her clothes and that we really need to get some clothes on her before the naughty boys see her with her undies on. So now when we see a barbie with a bikini on my eldest daughter pipes up with she's a silly dolly who forgot to get dressed properly this morning. And when we go to the beach and my daughter see's all of the bikini babes on the beach she says there silly mummy hey cause they have their underware on at the beach.( I have to stop myself from laughing) But she wont put on a bikini or a bra that you can buy from target because to her they are underware and she wont walk around in her underware because it's not right for the boys to see her in her undies because mummy does'nt walk around in her undies so it's not right. But thats just the lesson i taught my girls and it seems to have worked because not even my 2 yr old will walk around in her undies because her big sis and mum dont .












"Allow your kids to dress like skanks and they are at risk for premature sex, sexual assault. rape,teen pregnancy, std's, tainted body image and a whole host of other problems."












This i do not agree with because i'm sorry i happen to believe that it does'nt matter what you wear it does not give anyone the right to rape you. As for premature sex this can happen even if the child has never worn clothes like that in it's life, and teen pregnancys would still happen no matter what they choose to wear and they can still get an std even if they wear the right appropriate clothing it can and will still happen if the parents dont teach the right lessons to their children.












I do not like bratz dolls or what they are about but i dont see the sense in getting them banned or taken of shelves because unfortunately now days sex sells everything, just have a look at the girls on tv and the music stars they all promote sexy outfits and lots of make-up so either way we go we are stuffed because sex sells, so thats why i say that if the parent has taught the right lesson and dressed appropriately and acted appropriately in front of there daughters then hopefully we may stand a chance of having a generation of females who respect their body's and their minds and become something more than just a sex object.















 










"Allow your kids to dress like skanks and they are at risk for premature sex, sexual assault. rape,teen pregnancy, std's, tainted body image and a whole host of other problems."










 










This i do not agree with because i'm sorry i happen to believe that it does'nt matter what you wear it does not give anyone the right to rape you. As for premature sex this can happen even if the child has never worn clothes like that in it's life, and teen pregnancys would still happen no matter what they choose to wear and they can still get an std even if they wear the right appropriate clothing it can and will still happen if the parents dont teach the right lessons to their children.










 










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I did not say they were the only ones. Yes it is not right to rape anyone but if you dress like a skank you open your self up to it more.  Girls who do not value modesty and have respect for their body ARE at a higher risk for having sex earlier than they should. No they are not the only  ones as some good girls have sex before they should as well BUT like with the rape thing, they open them selves up to it. They attract male attention which can lead to sex.










Yes teen pregnancy can happen to the good girl who has sex and the skank but I bet it is the skank who has a chance of having earlier teen pregnancy and subsequent teen pregnancy after that.










I have been studying psychology for 2 years and prior to that have graduated from youth care (youth at risk) I have seen the type I am talking about and I have also seen the good girls. far often it is the ones that look like tramps that have the most psychological and developmental problems. this is a fact.












Ok i see your point and understand  it as i work with teenagers everyday as a social worker and i can honestly say that i have seen some pretty disgusting things in my time and let me tell you most of these kids have come from hoochy mumma'a that dress like trash and then teach their daughters to dress the same. I have seen the type your talking about to, everyday more than once a day but i also see the same amount of girls who dont dress like tramps and let me tell you they are some times worse just because they dont look like sluts does'nt mean that their not it just means that they lie about who they are in order to stop mum and dad from going mad at them.   The boys that i work with have all stated that they have never been taught how to treat a girl and most of them have the opinion that girls are only here for their pleasure and to have the kids and look after the house and  i know this should'nt surprise me but it does as i am teaching my 8yr old sun to respect woman for who they are not what they look like because some people were skanky clothes to make themselves feel sexy and desirable and some were them for the attention that they get and yes i believe it's these ones who are at a higher risk of being assaulted falling pregnant and all of the above but being a social worker and seeing all different types of girls some who dress for themselves and the ones who dress for attention are two completely different catagories and should not be dubbed as the same. I have also seen the larger girls who have lost weight and the first thing they go and do is buy a skanky skirt and wear it just to make themselves feel sexy and pretty because when you think about it being skinny and skanky is the new pretty according to the girls and boys that i work with. There are many different types of people and it's unfair to catagorise them as all the same and that what they wear should have nothing to do with it because i have never heard any teenager that i work with come out and say i'm gunna wear this really short skirt and my favourite boob tube so that i can get raped, fall pregnant or maybe i'll even get an std. However i have heard a few of them say that there gunna were this skanky outfit because i want to get laid tonight and that makes my skin crawl everytime i hear it but i have also heard the girls who say i'm gunna wear this skanky outfit because i feel good in it and it makes me look good. Not all people who dress like that are at higher risk of getting assaulted as some of them are actually very smart people who just simply like to wear clothes that make them feel good about themselves and they should not have to worry about what they wear incase some dickhead thinks he can just take what he wants because he sees her as an easy slut because of what she is wearing. As i said to the boys the other week in one of the topics we had been discussing if you were outand saw a girl who had on a little black dress would you think she was easy and that she was there for the taking and the thing that scared me the most was the fact that they all answered YES. So i then asked the same question but in a different way, i asked if you were out with your girlfriend/wife and she was wearing a little black dress and some guy just walked up thinking she was there's for the taking is that ok??? They all turned around and said that they would probably kick the shit out of him. I asked this next so why is it ok to take this one because she's wearing a little black dress when if it was your girlfriend/wife it would'nt be ok for someone to take them???? As i said catagorising two completely different types of the same group of people is not right.










ok dont get me wrong. I think it is really shitty that we have perverts out there that think every girl in a mini skirt is theirs to look at, make comments about, think about and touch in waht ever way they please. it is wrong that dressing in a specific way projects an image onto society about what a person may or may not be like.  Under no cirnumstances do I think it is ok for perverts to oogle girls as they walk down the street, holler crude remarks to them and even go as far as to sexually assult or rape them. people like that are sick and they need help. girls who dress like that for sexual purposes (I just want to get laid) as you said, also need help. While I think everyone should have a good body image and all girls should be able to look and feel beautiful there are better ways to go about it then laying all your goods out on the table for all to see. that is one of my points with the bratz. I think it is really impotant as mothers to help our daughters realize that they dont have to dress like a tramp to be beautiful and I dont care if sex sells because we are one family that wont be buying into the MGA entertainment sex trade.






very interesting point about what you talked about with the boys in your group. I am shocked that a lot of boys feel that girls are objects. thats actually really really sad. makes me want to protect my girls even more.





I could'nt agree with you more. I also agree that there is better ways to make yourself feel good and look beautiful and thats why i have started a self worth group amoung the young girls that i have been helping, and what were doing is everyday we dress a different way to see how we feel in different styles of clothes and the one thing that i have banned is skanky clothes because they all know how they feel in them. They have to wear trackie's one day and a long dress on the next and then shorts,lol (i think you get the picture) They have to record how they feel in those clothes and what reaction they get from  people in the streets. Then i am going to make them wear the skanky clothes and at the end of it all were gunna sit and talk about the different reactions that they got from people in the different styles of clothing and what reaction they liked best and what reaction would they like to get out of people and then hopefully we'll be able to go from there and i will be able to help these girls transform from immature little girls with no guidence into very sensible woman who love and respect themsleves fisrt and foremost. I just hope that i can help these girls as sometimes i realy want to bang my head against the wall because i must have forgotten somewhere along the line what it's like to be 13 and know everything about life.....lol. I love my work tho as i know i have helped a few of the young girls(not as many as i would like) with different things over the years and that was very satisfying to know that i helped little "annie" get her life on track and now she's become a lawyer or a doctor and is well on her way to being a happy young adult that can take pride in the fact that she has made something of herslef.



I to was completely shocked to hear that come from the boys and this has been something i am working very hard to change. I was thinking of trying something similar with the boys but not sure were i could go from here with them as i'm a girl and it's easier to relate to the girls and there feelings than it is with the boys, so i'll have to think about that one and until i think of something i will just keep talking to them and hope that they understand it's just not acceptable to treat woman like that. When i told my hubby about the boys he almost died in the ass and the first thing he said is that his girls will have a garder belt on untill there 30 so noone can touch them.....lol. The scary thing is i have to say i think it could be a good idea after hearing how the boys of today look at girls.

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There is one thing that really bothers me....words on the butt of clothing for little girls. You know, little track suits with "ANGEL" or "PRINCESS" written across the butt?? I really hate that they do that. I mean, its bad enough adult women walk around like that...looking for attention. But to put that on your little girl is sickening to me. Its a shame too because there have been times when I was shopping, saw an adorable outfit, looked at the back of it and had to put it back on the rack. They ruin a perfectly cute outfit by doing that. There's enough dirty old men in the world, I sure ain't going to all but advertise my child's behind to them you know?


i was in the mall the other week and i saw a little girl, probably about nine years old, wearing a shirt that said "check out my bubbles" right across the chest. walking with her mother!!!



that's like giving the creepy old men permission to stare.  i was horified.

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I don't think they should be banned or anything like that. The glory of america is we all get to make our own choices. I personally don't like bratz in my house because their big heads creep me out. We have a ton of barbies, generally speaking their clothes are very modest, but it doesnt matter because half the time they are naked anyways. Sometimes my apparel even borderlines on slutty, if it's hot I'm wearing as little as possible to stay cool. I think it is about personal parenting choices and how you react. I believe if you are too protective about body image, it can make a child feel ashamed about their own bodies. We all have our own parenting techniques, that's what makes each child an individual.











I dont think it makes kids ashamed of their bodies to be protective about body image.












I am not die hard by the book religious although I do believe in god as the creator and most of what goes along with that but I am not sitting in church every sunday and stuff. I do however teach my older daughter (5) that her body is sacred and because it is sacred it is ment to be kept behind modest clothing. I tell ehr that if she loves herself she will keep her self coverd. She already knows that the girls she sees walking in the mall with shorts so short you can see the butt cheeks through the bottoms have no self respect and are dressed like that because they need attention and validation from others in order to feel pretty. People that where trashy clothing are imoral and project the wrong image. They taint the mids of our boys and potentially make other girls feel that they need to look like that in order for people to like them. I have the same talk with my little sister (I am her legal guradian) when she came to live with us she also dressed like a hoochy. After a year she turned around. she no longer wears skirts that show her knees and she doesnt where tank tops unless it is under a low cut t shirt and she is turning 18 and still a virgin so I guess that just comes along with modesty and self respect.












allow your kids to dress like skanks and they are at risk for premature sex, sexual assult, rape, teen pregnancy , std's, tainted body image and a whole host of other problems. And this is what bratz dolls do. If we can ban and eliminate these gross dolls than that will be one less form of media telling our kids that they need to be a certian way.















I agree about the bratz dolls and how they CAN teach our daughters to dress like that and act like that but then i feel thats the parents fault because they have allowed their daughter to be a follower instead of a leader. If we teach our children to as Amanda said love themselves and be an individual and think for themselves as she has obviously done with her sister then it does'nt become a problem. I feel that if were doing our job as mum's properly then our daughters will learn to lead not follow and if we as their mum dress and act appropiate then they will learn from us and not the god dam slutty dolls that we despise. However i dont stop my daughters from playing with barbies at all no matter what their wearing i just teach my daughters that the swim suite ones have on a bra and panties like what mummy wears under her clothes and that we really need to get some clothes on her before the naughty boys see her with her undies on. So now when we see a barbie with a bikini on my eldest daughter pipes up with she's a silly dolly who forgot to get dressed properly this morning. And when we go to the beach and my daughter see's all of the bikini babes on the beach she says there silly mummy hey cause they have their underware on at the beach.( I have to stop myself from laughing) But she wont put on a bikini or a bra that you can buy from target because to her they are underware and she wont walk around in her underware because it's not right for the boys to see her in her undies because mummy does'nt walk around in her undies so it's not right. But thats just the lesson i taught my girls and it seems to have worked because not even my 2 yr old will walk around in her undies because her big sis and mum dont .










"Allow your kids to dress like skanks and they are at risk for premature sex, sexual assault. rape,teen pregnancy, std's, tainted body image and a whole host of other problems."










This i do not agree with because i'm sorry i happen to believe that it does'nt matter what you wear it does not give anyone the right to rape you. As for premature sex this can happen even if the child has never worn clothes like that in it's life, and teen pregnancys would still happen no matter what they choose to wear and they can still get an std even if they wear the right appropriate clothing it can and will still happen if the parents dont teach the right lessons to their children.










I do not like bratz dolls or what they are about but i dont see the sense in getting them banned or taken of shelves because unfortunately now days sex sells everything, just have a look at the girls on tv and the music stars they all promote sexy outfits and lots of make-up so either way we go we are stuffed because sex sells, so thats why i say that if the parent has taught the right lesson and dressed appropriately and acted appropriately in front of there daughters then hopefully we may stand a chance of having a generation of females who respect their body's and their minds and become something more than just a sex object.












 








"Allow your kids to dress like skanks and they are at risk for premature sex, sexual assault. rape,teen pregnancy, std's, tainted body image and a whole host of other problems."








 








This i do not agree with because i'm sorry i happen to believe that it does'nt matter what you wear it does not give anyone the right to rape you. As for premature sex this can happen even if the child has never worn clothes like that in it's life, and teen pregnancys would still happen no matter what they choose to wear and they can still get an std even if they wear the right appropriate clothing it can and will still happen if the parents dont teach the right lessons to their children.








 








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I did not say they were the only ones. Yes it is not right to rape anyone but if you dress like a skank you open your self up to it more.  Girls who do not value modesty and have respect for their body ARE at a higher risk for having sex earlier than they should. No they are not the only  ones as some good girls have sex before they should as well BUT like with the rape thing, they open them selves up to it. They attract male attention which can lead to sex.








Yes teen pregnancy can happen to the good girl who has sex and the skank but I bet it is the skank who has a chance of having earlier teen pregnancy and subsequent teen pregnancy after that.








I have been studying psychology for 2 years and prior to that have graduated from youth care (youth at risk) I have seen the type I am talking about and I have also seen the good girls. far often it is the ones that look like tramps that have the most psychological and developmental problems. this is a fact.









Ok i see your point and understand  it as i work with teenagers everyday as a social worker and i can honestly say that i have seen some pretty disgusting things in my time and let me tell you most of these kids have come from hoochy mumma'a that dress like trash and then teach their daughters to dress the same. I have seen the type your talking about to, everyday more than once a day but i also see the same amount of girls who dont dress like tramps and let me tell you they are some times worse just because they dont look like sluts does'nt mean that their not it just means that they lie about who they are in order to stop mum and dad from going mad at them.   The boys that i work with have all stated that they have never been taught how to treat a girl and most of them have the opinion that girls are only here for their pleasure and to have the kids and look after the house and  i know this should'nt surprise me but it does as i am teaching my 8yr old sun to respect woman for who they are not what they look like because some people were skanky clothes to make themselves feel sexy and desirable and some were them for the attention that they get and yes i believe it's these ones who are at a higher risk of being assaulted falling pregnant and all of the above but being a social worker and seeing all different types of girls some who dress for themselves and the ones who dress for attention are two completely different catagories and should not be dubbed as the same. I have also seen the larger girls who have lost weight and the first thing they go and do is buy a skanky skirt and wear it just to make themselves feel sexy and pretty because when you think about it being skinny and skanky is the new pretty according to the girls and boys that i work with. There are many different types of people and it's unfair to catagorise them as all the same and that what they wear should have nothing to do with it because i have never heard any teenager that i work with come out and say i'm gunna wear this really short skirt and my favourite boob tube so that i can get raped, fall pregnant or maybe i'll even get an std. However i have heard a few of them say that there gunna were this skanky outfit because i want to get laid tonight and that makes my skin crawl everytime i hear it but i have also heard the girls who say i'm gunna wear this skanky outfit because i feel good in it and it makes me look good. Not all people who dress like that are at higher risk of getting assaulted as some of them are actually very smart people who just simply like to wear clothes that make them feel good about themselves and they should not have to worry about what they wear incase some dickhead thinks he can just take what he wants because he sees her as an easy slut because of what she is wearing. As i said to the boys the other week in one of the topics we had been discussing if you were outand saw a girl who had on a little black dress would you think she was easy and that she was there for the taking and the thing that scared me the most was the fact that they all answered YES. So i then asked the same question but in a different way, i asked if you were out with your girlfriend/wife and she was wearing a little black dress and some guy just walked up thinking she was there's for the taking is that ok??? They all turned around and said that they would probably kick the shit out of him. I asked this next so why is it ok to take this one because she's wearing a little black dress when if it was your girlfriend/wife it would'nt be ok for someone to take them???? As i said catagorising two completely different types of the same group of people is not right.






ok dont get me wrong. I think it is really shitty that we have perverts out there that think every girl in a mini skirt is theirs to look at, make comments about, think about and touch in waht ever way they please. it is wrong that dressing in a specific way projects an image onto society about what a person may or may not be like.  Under no cirnumstances do I think it is ok for perverts to oogle girls as they walk down the street, holler crude remarks to them and even go as far as to sexually assult or rape them. people like that are sick and they need help. girls who dress like that for sexual purposes (I just want to get laid) as you said, also need help. While I think everyone should have a good body image and all girls should be able to look and feel beautiful there are better ways to go about it then laying all your goods out on the table for all to see. that is one of my points with the bratz. I think it is really impotant as mothers to help our daughters realize that they dont have to dress like a tramp to be beautiful and I dont care if sex sells because we are one family that wont be buying into the MGA entertainment sex trade.



very interesting point about what you talked about with the boys in your group. I am shocked that a lot of boys feel that girls are objects. thats actually really really sad. makes me want to protect my girls even more.

Rachel - posted on 06/17/2009

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Quoting Amanda:



Quoting Rachel:




Quoting Amanda:





Quoting Melissa:

I don't think they should be banned or anything like that. The glory of america is we all get to make our own choices. I personally don't like bratz in my house because their big heads creep me out. We have a ton of barbies, generally speaking their clothes are very modest, but it doesnt matter because half the time they are naked anyways. Sometimes my apparel even borderlines on slutty, if it's hot I'm wearing as little as possible to stay cool. I think it is about personal parenting choices and how you react. I believe if you are too protective about body image, it can make a child feel ashamed about their own bodies. We all have our own parenting techniques, that's what makes each child an individual.









I dont think it makes kids ashamed of their bodies to be protective about body image.










I am not die hard by the book religious although I do believe in god as the creator and most of what goes along with that but I am not sitting in church every sunday and stuff. I do however teach my older daughter (5) that her body is sacred and because it is sacred it is ment to be kept behind modest clothing. I tell ehr that if she loves herself she will keep her self coverd. She already knows that the girls she sees walking in the mall with shorts so short you can see the butt cheeks through the bottoms have no self respect and are dressed like that because they need attention and validation from others in order to feel pretty. People that where trashy clothing are imoral and project the wrong image. They taint the mids of our boys and potentially make other girls feel that they need to look like that in order for people to like them. I have the same talk with my little sister (I am her legal guradian) when she came to live with us she also dressed like a hoochy. After a year she turned around. she no longer wears skirts that show her knees and she doesnt where tank tops unless it is under a low cut t shirt and she is turning 18 and still a virgin so I guess that just comes along with modesty and self respect.










allow your kids to dress like skanks and they are at risk for premature sex, sexual assult, rape, teen pregnancy , std's, tainted body image and a whole host of other problems. And this is what bratz dolls do. If we can ban and eliminate these gross dolls than that will be one less form of media telling our kids that they need to be a certian way.












I agree about the bratz dolls and how they CAN teach our daughters to dress like that and act like that but then i feel thats the parents fault because they have allowed their daughter to be a follower instead of a leader. If we teach our children to as Amanda said love themselves and be an individual and think for themselves as she has obviously done with her sister then it does'nt become a problem. I feel that if were doing our job as mum's properly then our daughters will learn to lead not follow and if we as their mum dress and act appropiate then they will learn from us and not the god dam slutty dolls that we despise. However i dont stop my daughters from playing with barbies at all no matter what their wearing i just teach my daughters that the swim suite ones have on a bra and panties like what mummy wears under her clothes and that we really need to get some clothes on her before the naughty boys see her with her undies on. So now when we see a barbie with a bikini on my eldest daughter pipes up with she's a silly dolly who forgot to get dressed properly this morning. And when we go to the beach and my daughter see's all of the bikini babes on the beach she says there silly mummy hey cause they have their underware on at the beach.( I have to stop myself from laughing) But she wont put on a bikini or a bra that you can buy from target because to her they are underware and she wont walk around in her underware because it's not right for the boys to see her in her undies because mummy does'nt walk around in her undies so it's not right. But thats just the lesson i taught my girls and it seems to have worked because not even my 2 yr old will walk around in her undies because her big sis and mum dont .








"Allow your kids to dress like skanks and they are at risk for premature sex, sexual assault. rape,teen pregnancy, std's, tainted body image and a whole host of other problems."








This i do not agree with because i'm sorry i happen to believe that it does'nt matter what you wear it does not give anyone the right to rape you. As for premature sex this can happen even if the child has never worn clothes like that in it's life, and teen pregnancys would still happen no matter what they choose to wear and they can still get an std even if they wear the right appropriate clothing it can and will still happen if the parents dont teach the right lessons to their children.








I do not like bratz dolls or what they are about but i dont see the sense in getting them banned or taken of shelves because unfortunately now days sex sells everything, just have a look at the girls on tv and the music stars they all promote sexy outfits and lots of make-up so either way we go we are stuffed because sex sells, so thats why i say that if the parent has taught the right lesson and dressed appropriately and acted appropriately in front of there daughters then hopefully we may stand a chance of having a generation of females who respect their body's and their minds and become something more than just a sex object.









 






"Allow your kids to dress like skanks and they are at risk for premature sex, sexual assault. rape,teen pregnancy, std's, tainted body image and a whole host of other problems."






 






This i do not agree with because i'm sorry i happen to believe that it does'nt matter what you wear it does not give anyone the right to rape you. As for premature sex this can happen even if the child has never worn clothes like that in it's life, and teen pregnancys would still happen no matter what they choose to wear and they can still get an std even if they wear the right appropriate clothing it can and will still happen if the parents dont teach the right lessons to their children.






 






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I did not say they were the only ones. Yes it is not right to rape anyone but if you dress like a skank you open your self up to it more.  Girls who do not value modesty and have respect for their body ARE at a higher risk for having sex earlier than they should. No they are not the only  ones as some good girls have sex before they should as well BUT like with the rape thing, they open them selves up to it. They attract male attention which can lead to sex.






Yes teen pregnancy can happen to the good girl who has sex and the skank but I bet it is the skank who has a chance of having earlier teen pregnancy and subsequent teen pregnancy after that.






I have been studying psychology for 2 years and prior to that have graduated from youth care (youth at risk) I have seen the type I am talking about and I have also seen the good girls. far often it is the ones that look like tramps that have the most psychological and developmental problems. this is a fact.





Ok i see your point and i understand it, however i work with kids/teenagers as a social worker and  i have witnessed first hand that there are young girls out there that dress like hoochy mumma's and yet they have never had sex a day in their lives as their mothers have had them at the doctors surgery to make sure that they are still virgins. I have also witnessed first hand the girls that you are refering to and yes some of them do have psychological and developmental problems but not all of them. This is why i don't like when people generalise these girls as one in the same. I have also always hated the fact that girls/woman have to watch what they wear as to not get the male aroused because clothes really don't say anything about the person underneath them. I have also wondered why the parents are'nt teaching the boys that it's not ok to treat a woman/girl like a sex object or a piece of meat that they can throw around whenever they want. I think the boys have it easy in this world because they can walk around in whatever they want sleep around with whoever they want and yet they dont get called sluts or get assaulted for the way the dress or have someone think it's their right to have them because they flaunted it, so why is it that if a female were's something skanky she's asking to be raped or if she has had more than one sexual partner she's a slut??? Don't you think that this world is hypercritical, woman have worked for years to be treated as equals to men and yet we still have the problem of boys can get away with it but it's socially unexceptable for a girl to do any of it. It really annoys me that we all spend so much time trying to get the girls to stop dressing this way or acting this way and yet we hardley spend any time teaching the boys that it's not exceptable to treat a girl like that because of what she is wearing or how she is acting. This has been going on for generations and generations and yet here we are in the new age and yet the girls are still the ones who get blammed because we have the power of the pussy (so to speak) . I realy think that it's discusting that a girl who is just walking down the street wearing a mini skirt can be targeted by a male as his next sex toy because..... well she's dressed like a hoochy so obviously she is and she will put out for him, and if she does'nt he can just take it because she dressed provocatively in his eye's so that makes it all right. I think maybe we should start teaching the boys of this world that it does'nt matter what a girl wears or how she acts because he does'nt have a right to put his hands on anyone unless they have said it's ok to, and maybe if we can get to the boys and teach them how to treat a woman then maybe us girls will be able to wear a little summer dress and be able to walk down the street and not wonder if the guy that is having a perv is actually thinking about rapeing her. I just feel that if we get to the boys and teach them that girls are equal and need to be treated with gentleness and understanding that we may end up with a society of decent male role models who may be one day can eradicate rape and so forth to make help make the world a better place.

Rachel - posted on 06/17/2009

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Quoting Amanda:



Quoting Rachel:




Quoting Amanda:





Quoting Melissa:

I don't think they should be banned or anything like that. The glory of america is we all get to make our own choices. I personally don't like bratz in my house because their big heads creep me out. We have a ton of barbies, generally speaking their clothes are very modest, but it doesnt matter because half the time they are naked anyways. Sometimes my apparel even borderlines on slutty, if it's hot I'm wearing as little as possible to stay cool. I think it is about personal parenting choices and how you react. I believe if you are too protective about body image, it can make a child feel ashamed about their own bodies. We all have our own parenting techniques, that's what makes each child an individual.









I dont think it makes kids ashamed of their bodies to be protective about body image.










I am not die hard by the book religious although I do believe in god as the creator and most of what goes along with that but I am not sitting in church every sunday and stuff. I do however teach my older daughter (5) that her body is sacred and because it is sacred it is ment to be kept behind modest clothing. I tell ehr that if she loves herself she will keep her self coverd. She already knows that the girls she sees walking in the mall with shorts so short you can see the butt cheeks through the bottoms have no self respect and are dressed like that because they need attention and validation from others in order to feel pretty. People that where trashy clothing are imoral and project the wrong image. They taint the mids of our boys and potentially make other girls feel that they need to look like that in order for people to like them. I have the same talk with my little sister (I am her legal guradian) when she came to live with us she also dressed like a hoochy. After a year she turned around. she no longer wears skirts that show her knees and she doesnt where tank tops unless it is under a low cut t shirt and she is turning 18 and still a virgin so I guess that just comes along with modesty and self respect.










allow your kids to dress like skanks and they are at risk for premature sex, sexual assult, rape, teen pregnancy , std's, tainted body image and a whole host of other problems. And this is what bratz dolls do. If we can ban and eliminate these gross dolls than that will be one less form of media telling our kids that they need to be a certian way.












I agree about the bratz dolls and how they CAN teach our daughters to dress like that and act like that but then i feel thats the parents fault because they have allowed their daughter to be a follower instead of a leader. If we teach our children to as Amanda said love themselves and be an individual and think for themselves as she has obviously done with her sister then it does'nt become a problem. I feel that if were doing our job as mum's properly then our daughters will learn to lead not follow and if we as their mum dress and act appropiate then they will learn from us and not the god dam slutty dolls that we despise. However i dont stop my daughters from playing with barbies at all no matter what their wearing i just teach my daughters that the swim suite ones have on a bra and panties like what mummy wears under her clothes and that we really need to get some clothes on her before the naughty boys see her with her undies on. So now when we see a barbie with a bikini on my eldest daughter pipes up with she's a silly dolly who forgot to get dressed properly this morning. And when we go to the beach and my daughter see's all of the bikini babes on the beach she says there silly mummy hey cause they have their underware on at the beach.( I have to stop myself from laughing) But she wont put on a bikini or a bra that you can buy from target because to her they are underware and she wont walk around in her underware because it's not right for the boys to see her in her undies because mummy does'nt walk around in her undies so it's not right. But thats just the lesson i taught my girls and it seems to have worked because not even my 2 yr old will walk around in her undies because her big sis and mum dont .








"Allow your kids to dress like skanks and they are at risk for premature sex, sexual assault. rape,teen pregnancy, std's, tainted body image and a whole host of other problems."








This i do not agree with because i'm sorry i happen to believe that it does'nt matter what you wear it does not give anyone the right to rape you. As for premature sex this can happen even if the child has never worn clothes like that in it's life, and teen pregnancys would still happen no matter what they choose to wear and they can still get an std even if they wear the right appropriate clothing it can and will still happen if the parents dont teach the right lessons to their children.








I do not like bratz dolls or what they are about but i dont see the sense in getting them banned or taken of shelves because unfortunately now days sex sells everything, just have a look at the girls on tv and the music stars they all promote sexy outfits and lots of make-up so either way we go we are stuffed because sex sells, so thats why i say that if the parent has taught the right lesson and dressed appropriately and acted appropriately in front of there daughters then hopefully we may stand a chance of having a generation of females who respect their body's and their minds and become something more than just a sex object.









 






"Allow your kids to dress like skanks and they are at risk for premature sex, sexual assault. rape,teen pregnancy, std's, tainted body image and a whole host of other problems."






 






This i do not agree with because i'm sorry i happen to believe that it does'nt matter what you wear it does not give anyone the right to rape you. As for premature sex this can happen even if the child has never worn clothes like that in it's life, and teen pregnancys would still happen no matter what they choose to wear and they can still get an std even if they wear the right appropriate clothing it can and will still happen if the parents dont teach the right lessons to their children.






 






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I did not say they were the only ones. Yes it is not right to rape anyone but if you dress like a skank you open your self up to it more.  Girls who do not value modesty and have respect for their body ARE at a higher risk for having sex earlier than they should. No they are not the only  ones as some good girls have sex before they should as well BUT like with the rape thing, they open them selves up to it. They attract male attention which can lead to sex.






Yes teen pregnancy can happen to the good girl who has sex and the skank but I bet it is the skank who has a chance of having earlier teen pregnancy and subsequent teen pregnancy after that.






I have been studying psychology for 2 years and prior to that have graduated from youth care (youth at risk) I have seen the type I am talking about and I have also seen the good girls. far often it is the ones that look like tramps that have the most psychological and developmental problems. this is a fact.





Ok i see your point and i understand it, however i work with kids/teenagers as a social worker and  i have witnessed first hand that there are young girls out there that dress like hoochy mumma's and yet they have never had sex a day in their lives as their mothers have had them at the doctors surgery to make sure that they are still virgins. I have also witnessed first hand the girls that you are refering to and yes some of them do have psychological and developmental problems but not all of them. This is why i don't like when people generalise these girls as one in the same. I have also always hated the fact that girls/woman have to watch what they wear as to not get the male aroused because clothes really don't say anything about the person underneath them. I have also wondered why the parents are'nt teaching the boys that it's not ok to treat a woman/girl like a sex object or a piece of meat that they can throw around whenever they want. I think the boys have it easy in this world because they can walk around in whatever they want sleep around with whoever they want and yet they dont get called sluts or get assaulted for the way the dress or have someone think it's their right to have them because they flaunted it, so why is it that if a female were's something skanky she's asking to be raped or if she has had more than one sexual partner she's a slut??? Don't you think that this world is hypercritical, woman have worked for years to be treated as equals to men and yet we still have the problem of boys can get away with it but it's socially unexceptable for a girl to do any of it. It really annoys me that we all spend so much time trying to get the girls to stop dressing this way or acting this way and yet we hardley spend any time teaching the boys that it's not exceptable to treat a girl like that because of what she is wearing or how she is acting. This has been going on for generations and generations and yet here we are in the new age and yet the girls are still the ones who get blammed because we have the power of the pussy (so to speak) . I realy think that it's discusting that a girl who is just walking down the street wearing a mini skirt can be targeted by a male as his next sex toy because..... well she's dressed like a hoochy so obviously she is and she will put out for him, and if she does'nt he can just take it because she dressed provocatively in his eye's so that makes it all right. I think maybe we should start teaching the boys of this world that it does'nt matter what a girl wears or how she acts because he does'nt have a right to put his hands on anyone unless they have said it's ok to, and maybe if we can get to the boys and teach them how to treat a woman then maybe us girls will be able to wear a little summer dress and be able to walk down the street and not wonder if the guy that is having a perv is actually thinking about rapeing her. I just feel that if we get to the boys and teach them that girls are equal and need to be treated with gentleness and understanding that we may end up with a society of decent male role models who may be one day can eradicate rape and so forth to make help make the world a better place.

Rachel - posted on 06/17/2009

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36

5

Quoting Amanda:



Quoting Rachel:




Quoting Amanda:





Quoting Melissa:

I don't think they should be banned or anything like that. The glory of america is we all get to make our own choices. I personally don't like bratz in my house because their big heads creep me out. We have a ton of barbies, generally speaking their clothes are very modest, but it doesnt matter because half the time they are naked anyways. Sometimes my apparel even borderlines on slutty, if it's hot I'm wearing as little as possible to stay cool. I think it is about personal parenting choices and how you react. I believe if you are too protective about body image, it can make a child feel ashamed about their own bodies. We all have our own parenting techniques, that's what makes each child an individual.









I dont think it makes kids ashamed of their bodies to be protective about body image.










I am not die hard by the book religious although I do believe in god as the creator and most of what goes along with that but I am not sitting in church every sunday and stuff. I do however teach my older daughter (5) that her body is sacred and because it is sacred it is ment to be kept behind modest clothing. I tell ehr that if she loves herself she will keep her self coverd. She already knows that the girls she sees walking in the mall with shorts so short you can see the butt cheeks through the bottoms have no self respect and are dressed like that because they need attention and validation from others in order to feel pretty. People that where trashy clothing are imoral and project the wrong image. They taint the mids of our boys and potentially make other girls feel that they need to look like that in order for people to like them. I have the same talk with my little sister (I am her legal guradian) when she came to live with us she also dressed like a hoochy. After a year she turned around. she no longer wears skirts that show her knees and she doesnt where tank tops unless it is under a low cut t shirt and she is turning 18 and still a virgin so I guess that just comes along with modesty and self respect.










allow your kids to dress like skanks and they are at risk for premature sex, sexual assult, rape, teen pregnancy , std's, tainted body image and a whole host of other problems. And this is what bratz dolls do. If we can ban and eliminate these gross dolls than that will be one less form of media telling our kids that they need to be a certian way.












I agree about the bratz dolls and how they CAN teach our daughters to dress like that and act like that but then i feel thats the parents fault because they have allowed their daughter to be a follower instead of a leader. If we teach our children to as Amanda said love themselves and be an individual and think for themselves as she has obviously done with her sister then it does'nt become a problem. I feel that if were doing our job as mum's properly then our daughters will learn to lead not follow and if we as their mum dress and act appropiate then they will learn from us and not the god dam slutty dolls that we despise. However i dont stop my daughters from playing with barbies at all no matter what their wearing i just teach my daughters that the swim suite ones have on a bra and panties like what mummy wears under her clothes and that we really need to get some clothes on her before the naughty boys see her with her undies on. So now when we see a barbie with a bikini on my eldest daughter pipes up with she's a silly dolly who forgot to get dressed properly this morning. And when we go to the beach and my daughter see's all of the bikini babes on the beach she says there silly mummy hey cause they have their underware on at the beach.( I have to stop myself from laughing) But she wont put on a bikini or a bra that you can buy from target because to her they are underware and she wont walk around in her underware because it's not right for the boys to see her in her undies because mummy does'nt walk around in her undies so it's not right. But thats just the lesson i taught my girls and it seems to have worked because not even my 2 yr old will walk around in her undies because her big sis and mum dont .








"Allow your kids to dress like skanks and they are at risk for premature sex, sexual assault. rape,teen pregnancy, std's, tainted body image and a whole host of other problems."








This i do not agree with because i'm sorry i happen to believe that it does'nt matter what you wear it does not give anyone the right to rape you. As for premature sex this can happen even if the child has never worn clothes like that in it's life, and teen pregnancys would still happen no matter what they choose to wear and they can still get an std even if they wear the right appropriate clothing it can and will still happen if the parents dont teach the right lessons to their children.








I do not like bratz dolls or what they are about but i dont see the sense in getting them banned or taken of shelves because unfortunately now days sex sells everything, just have a look at the girls on tv and the music stars they all promote sexy outfits and lots of make-up so either way we go we are stuffed because sex sells, so thats why i say that if the parent has taught the right lesson and dressed appropriately and acted appropriately in front of there daughters then hopefully we may stand a chance of having a generation of females who respect their body's and their minds and become something more than just a sex object.









 






"Allow your kids to dress like skanks and they are at risk for premature sex, sexual assault. rape,teen pregnancy, std's, tainted body image and a whole host of other problems."






 






This i do not agree with because i'm sorry i happen to believe that it does'nt matter what you wear it does not give anyone the right to rape you. As for premature sex this can happen even if the child has never worn clothes like that in it's life, and teen pregnancys would still happen no matter what they choose to wear and they can still get an std even if they wear the right appropriate clothing it can and will still happen if the parents dont teach the right lessons to their children.






 






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I did not say they were the only ones. Yes it is not right to rape anyone but if you dress like a skank you open your self up to it more.  Girls who do not value modesty and have respect for their body ARE at a higher risk for having sex earlier than they should. No they are not the only  ones as some good girls have sex before they should as well BUT like with the rape thing, they open them selves up to it. They attract male attention which can lead to sex.






Yes teen pregnancy can happen to the good girl who has sex and the skank but I bet it is the skank who has a chance of having earlier teen pregnancy and subsequent teen pregnancy after that.






I have been studying psychology for 2 years and prior to that have graduated from youth care (youth at risk) I have seen the type I am talking about and I have also seen the good girls. far often it is the ones that look like tramps that have the most psychological and developmental problems. this is a fact.





Ok i see your point and understand  it as i work with teenagers everyday as a social worker and i can honestly say that i have seen some pretty disgusting things in my time and let me tell you most of these kids have come from hoochy mumma'a that dress like trash and then teach their daughters to dress the same. I have seen the type your talking about to, everyday more than once a day but i also see the same amount of girls who dont dress like tramps and let me tell you they are some times worse just because they dont look like sluts does'nt mean that their not it just means that they lie about who they are in order to stop mum and dad from going mad at them.   The boys that i work with have all stated that they have never been taught how to treat a girl and most of them have the opinion that girls are only here for their pleasure and to have the kids and look after the house and  i know this should'nt surprise me but it does as i am teaching my 8yr old sun to respect woman for who they are not what they look like because some people were skanky clothes to make themselves feel sexy and desirable and some were them for the attention that they get and yes i believe it's these ones who are at a higher risk of being assaulted falling pregnant and all of the above but being a social worker and seeing all different types of girls some who dress for themselves and the ones who dress for attention are two completely different catagories and should not be dubbed as the same. I have also seen the larger girls who have lost weight and the first thing they go and do is buy a skanky skirt and wear it just to make themselves feel sexy and pretty because when you think about it being skinny and skanky is the new pretty according to the girls and boys that i work with. There are many different types of people and it's unfair to catagorise them as all the same and that what they wear should have nothing to do with it because i have never heard any teenager that i work with come out and say i'm gunna wear this really short skirt and my favourite boob tube so that i can get raped, fall pregnant or maybe i'll even get an std. However i have heard a few of them say that there gunna were this skanky outfit because i want to get laid tonight and that makes my skin crawl everytime i hear it but i have also heard the girls who say i'm gunna wear this skanky outfit because i feel good in it and it makes me look good. Not all people who dress like that are at higher risk of getting assaulted as some of them are actually very smart people who just simply like to wear clothes that make them feel good about themselves and they should not have to worry about what they wear incase some dickhead thinks he can just take what he wants because he sees her as an easy slut because of what she is wearing. As i said to the boys the other week in one of the topics we had been discussing if you were outand saw a girl who had on a little black dress would you think she was easy and that she was there for the taking and the thing that scared me the most was the fact that they all answered YES. So i then asked the same question but in a different way, i asked if you were out with your girlfriend/wife and she was wearing a little black dress and some guy just walked up thinking she was there's for the taking is that ok??? They all turned around and said that they would probably kick the shit out of him. I asked this next so why is it ok to take this one because she's wearing a little black dress when if it was your girlfriend/wife it would'nt be ok for someone to take them???? As i said catagorising two completely different types of the same group of people is not right.

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i thought it was just me thinking these dolls are a bit tarty my daughter is 1 and i wont buy her a bratz doll i just dont agree with that much make up on a doll and them kind of clothes cos it gives out wrong message 2 kids. my little sister asked me for one for her 9th birthday last year and i said no i bought her a laptop (just a learning one with maths n stuff on it). i think they r awful

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yeah it shouldnt be that way that women have to watch what they wear all because their are some weak individuals out there who cant help themselves , but unfourtunatly thats how it is ( i wish it wasnt ) , clothes are an extension of who we are they are another form of self expression , there are clothes that say im a professional buisness woman , i am a goth , im a punk , im gym junkie and believe it or not there are clothes that say im cheap and easy ( still dosent mean that they are free to do with as you please ) . each person has a certain style , and yes ive seen bratz dolls and thought wow thats one skanky doll . these dolls and music videos that promote this " style " might not seem to affect them now but what it does is normalise it for them , they grow up and dont see anything wrong wearing a pvc belt as a skirt going out party pashing all the boys and girls ( dont worry its cool everyone does it on MTV )
our culture has become more over sexualised in recent years ive even seen 5 year olds at my school not dancing but grinding in knee high boots and mini skirts and it was disturbing ! It is never a victims fault if something tragic happens but you cant be so blind as to think there arent perverts out there who wont take that " style " as an invitation .


very well put loureen. it should not be that way but it is.

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I hate them with a passion! My 8 Year old SD has them, and yes one occasion i have been known to buy them... trying hard to pick out the lesser of horrible dolls. You want to know the part that ticks me off more than anything... I keep stepping on feet.... When i was a kid either you took the leg off or left the leg on... now they have inter changeable feet.... its gross!

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yeah it shouldnt be that way that women have to watch what they wear all because their are some weak individuals out there who cant help themselves , but unfourtunatly thats how it is ( i wish it wasnt ) , clothes are an extension of who we are they are another form of self expression , there are clothes that say im a professional buisness woman , i am a goth , im a punk , im gym junkie and believe it or not there are clothes that say im cheap and easy ( still dosent mean that they are free to do with as you please ) . each person has a certain style , and yes ive seen bratz dolls and thought wow thats one skanky doll . these dolls and music videos that promote this " style " might not seem to affect them now but what it does is normalise it for them , they grow up and dont see anything wrong wearing a pvc belt as a skirt going out party pashing all the boys and girls ( dont worry its cool everyone does it on MTV )
our culture has become more over sexualised in recent years ive even seen 5 year olds at my school not dancing but grinding in knee high boots and mini skirts and it was disturbing ! It is never a victims fault if something tragic happens but you cant be so blind as to think there arent perverts out there who wont take that " style " as an invitation .

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