Excessive crying and waking at night...

Kelly - posted on 11/18/2009 ( 11 moms have responded )

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Hi Ladies :)



I'm wondering if anyone has any advice for me. My little guy just turned 7 months yesterday, he falls asleep around 8:30 everynight. He wakes at between 10-11ish... again at 12:30 ish, again at 1:30 ish, and maybe once more until he wakes up at 7:30... He gets a bottle about half an hour before bed, and when he wakes around 11 I will give him another in hopes of him lasting through the night. When he wakes up he SCREAMS, there is no settling him unless I pick him up, if I dont pick him up he will scream for an hour at least. I have tried orajel and tempra, thinking it may be teething, but it doesnt make a difference. He sleeps in the morning around 8:30 for about an hour, then again around noon for about half an hour, then 3 for about 45 min, then again around 6 for about 45 min. I dont think he's getting too much sleep during the day. He eats well so I dont think thats an issue either. Any suggestions?? I just dont want to leave him screaming in the middle of the night...



Thanks!!!

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Mandi - posted on 12/01/2009

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They have that new formula that is for night time by enfamil. It's a little thicker or slightly thickens after they eat. I'm going to get some this weekend and give it a try. Might help and wont hurt.

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Hi Kelly,

My daughter used to do this too around the 6 month mark (She is now 7 1/2) months old. We would put her to bed and normally within an hour to two hours she would wake up screaming and we had to pick her up, nothing would settle her. We thought it might be what was called night terrors, but on reading up, we found it didn't suit her age category. What it really was, was she was simply not getting enough sleep.

My friend gave me this book called "Save Our Sleep" by Tizzie Hall. I read it cover to cover and implemented her suggestions immediately and from that day, our baby has slept through the night and no longer screams shortly after falling asleep. From your babies schedule as per what you have described above, I don't think he is getting enough sleep and is not re-settling himself between sleep cycles, based on the amount of times he is waking up. The book suggests that 7 month olds should be sleeping from 7pm-7am every night and then two naps each day around 1.5 hours.

Honestly, I have nothing to gain by this advice to you, I just wanted to share what I believe was the breakthrough in getting our baby the sleep she needs and our sanity that my husband and I so desperately craved. This book teaches you how to teach your baby to self settle, but doesn't use controlled crying, which I believe only confuses and upsets babies further and is physically & mentally hard on the parents. Once your baby can settle themselves between sleep cycles, he should be able to sleep through the night and have two long naps during the day. My baby now sleeps through the night and both her naps during the day go for around 1 - 1 1/2 hours.

The book really did save our sleep and I highly recommend it. I sincerely hope this helps!

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Marie - posted on 12/06/2009

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Hi Kelly, I agree Leanne. The book she offers sounds just like the book I would offer "Healthy Sleep Habits, Happy Child" It suggest that a baby should be going to bed between 6-8, sleeping 12 hours, and having two 1.5-2 hour naps and sometimes a third short nap. Some babies need that lil extra sleep. Once I got my daughter on this schedule--it doesn't have to be a strict schedule, she started sleeping through the night. Typically a baby has to learn how to transition from light sleep to heavy sleep. Sounds like your baby doesn't know how to soothe and I don't recommend leaving him there to cry. Like another mom suggested, don't turn on light, don't talk, use shhhh sounds, if you must pick him up do it briefly, rub his back/belly, etc. Just be gentle with him and try not to overstimulate him. Do you use a monitor? I'm a light sleeper so when my son, who is now 8 months, starts to wimper, I wake and listen. If it starts like he's getting louder or worse, I go in there quickly to make sure he doesn't fully wake. I offer a paci, use the shhhh, rub his back or I turn on his music player (which is turned down really low) to help soothe him back to sleep. Sleep, just like everything else has to be learned.

Kathy - posted on 12/05/2009

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From the time my daughter was 5mo to 6mo, she would do this too. I talked to my doctor and I decided to take away her pacifier. I did it cold turkey and after 3 or 4 nights of agony, she now regularly sleeps from 8pm to 6am (now she's 7mo). There were a couple of times that she cried and screamed for an hour or more before she could calm herself down. Now if she does wake up, she just fusses for a few minutes, then goes back to sleep.

With my first daughter, we wouldn't let her nap after 6pm because it would disrupt her at night.

Good luck and I hope you get some sleep soon :)

Courtney - posted on 12/03/2009

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I go through the same thing with my daughter. She takes one 30min-1hour nap during the day and wakes about every hour at night. Like your son she will not stop crying till I pick her up. I have tried the cry it out, feeding her a big meal before bed, orajel thinking it was teething, the doctor told me to do tylonel and motrin. Still nothing works...

Andrea - posted on 12/03/2009

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We are going through the same thing - my son's schedule has been almost the same as yours (he is 7 months). Of course we are in the middle of a move and the holidays with family so his naps have been messed up and it seems to me he is overly tired. He really wants to sleep but can't. I feed him if it has been more than 3 hours and the rest of the time I put him back on his back and give him his pacifier. This has been going on for about 3 weeks for us and he is slowly starting to go longer at night. The difference is I have been making sure we don't wake him up early from naps and I try to get him to go back to sleep if a nap has been less than an hour. I've even held him a couple times for his nap just to be sure he stays asleep. It seems to be working.
Thankfully babies go through phases and this too shall pass :)

Noelani - posted on 12/01/2009

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Glad it's not just me. My little guy goes to bed around 8pm, wakes at 12:30am and again at 3:30am. I think it's habit. I'm hoping that by giving him a bigger night time feeding he'll sleep a little longer.

Mandi - posted on 12/01/2009

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Hi Kelly,
My little guy just turned 7 months too, and I'm going through the same thing. I have figured out that it is a habit. First he was sick and would wake up from his nose being plugged and not being able to breath. Then it was the teething. Then I think he was just in the habit of getting up, so for 2 nights when he woke up,I gave him his pacifier and then I just let him cry. Now he's better, usually waking up only once around midnight and having a bottle then he's good till 7-730am. I know letting him cry is hard, but I had to do it. I work full time and couldn't be up all night
He naps around 10am for 2 hours then about 5pm for about an hour or so and then in bed no later then 830pm.
Hope this helps.

Lucy - posted on 11/27/2009

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My daughter sounds exactly the same and has been going on for a few weeks now! I put Amelia into bed with me and this helps, she still wakes but doesn't cry she shuffles over to me and falls back to sleep in my arms.

Angela - posted on 11/18/2009

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I also don't recommend the Orajel before bed, even though I DO use it for him when he's awake. And I don't know about that "proven to not work to relieve pain." Of COURSE it relieves pain! I've used it myself on tooth pain. Numbs you right up. The only problem is that it only lasts a short time, and makes your tongue feel funny. ;-)

As far as your sleeping problem goes, it could be night terrors. What does your pediatrician think? My best suggestions are to not turn the lights on when you get him up, make the event as quick as possible, and move him as little as possible. Don't talk to him, don't cuddle too much. Try to teach him that while you'll take care of his "needs," there is no time for "wants" at night. Good luck!

Teresa - posted on 11/18/2009

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Don't give tempra, unless he has a fever- and even then you should make sure the doctor says it's ok- that is the fever is not from an infection you don't know about.



Orajel is actually not recommended by Ped. Ass. The jels can cause numbing in their throats and can lead to chocking! Do not use- they are also proven to not work to relieve pain.



Google Night Terrors. This looks like something your baby may be experiencing.

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