crazy Doctor

Jessica - posted on 07/24/2010 ( 43 moms have responded )

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So we went to the Doctors today.. A new Pediatrician... He must have been like 75 + years old!!! But he said all babies don't need milk after 6 months. And the society and milk advertisement company's just tell you that you do to make a profit! I have never heard such of a thing! He says we have all been brain washed. And went on how the Stone age they never had cows milk or formula to survive!!

That is just the craziest thing i have heard and wanted to share it.

Also we went there cuz my daughter has a rash on her bum and we've been using Zinco-fax. He said that's all brainwashing stuff!! Just use "cornstarch" have any other mothers used cornstarch and it worked??

Thanks for reading! :D

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Julie - posted on 07/30/2010

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Babies don't actually NEED milk because it is "milk." He's right about the milk producers telling you that they do--in the 1950s or so there was a big push to sell more milk and the idea spread that it was for calcium. There are actually much better, more efficient (metabolically and cost) ways to consume calcium. Babies and children should drink milk for the FAT--kids need the fat for brain development. In fact, for children who can't drink milk because of allergies to the milk sugars or protein, it is recommended that they make up the fat deficit by eating fatty vegetables like avocados and olives (good fats). So your crazy doctor is sort of right, but I think he probably wasn't very clear and not good at explaining what he meant.

I've used cornstarch on my baby before--it works like talcum powder (baby powder). These substances are actually very small flat "plate" shaped particles that slide past each other and so they feel slippery.

But if your baby has a rash you should consider using something like Desitin that has antimicrobial properties (like the zinc in zinc oxide, the active ingredient in Desitin and most white diaper rash creams) in case it is a true infection and not just irritation.

Clear/see through creams like A&D won't clear up an infected area, but they do work to reduce friction and make a moisture barrier on the skin so poop and pee can't irritate the skin.

(You need to think about the problem you have or are trying to prevent and then choose the right cream/powder for the job.)

Tiffany - posted on 08/09/2010

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Never used cornstarch. I swear by A&D because it has worked so amazingly well for me. My daughter can have a really bad diaper rash and it'll look better after like half a day. She was on an antibiotic when she was a few months old that caused diarrhea and that caused a really bad rash. I used A&D and it made it so much better so fast. Try that. Also, I don't think you should stop giving formula or breast milk till a year old. They say that the babies digestive system can't handle cows milk till then so just play it safe and don't give it to her. If you think the doc is a quack find a new one!

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If its a yeast infection, the doc will give you a Rx for it- or they did with my daughter- and when the medicine soaked in it stung but it worked. They also said the purple Desitin is the one to use with that.

The doc does sound a little weird. Not sure what Moms did if they couldn't breast feed (since not everyone can). If he isn't the pediatrician you see regularly, I would ignore it, and if he is, it might be worth finding another one.

Aimee - posted on 08/05/2010

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well, they may have went without it, but i think its healthy for them to have so why should it matter? lol i have heard of the cornstarch and that it works good, ive never had to try it though.

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Denikka - posted on 08/08/2011

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Not even gonna touch on the milk thing, but cornstarch is actually better to use than baby powder, and baby powder should really not be used at all, especially if there's ANY history of breathing problems (like asthma). If you look on the carton, it should have a warning label that says *do no inhale* or *do not ingest*. Well, when putting it on, that's exactly what you're doing. It's going into the air and entering the body. With cornstarch, you have way more control over the powder.
A friend of mine used to use baby powder and her little girl has had breathing problems since day one. Her daughter would have relatively mild asthma attacks almost every time baby powder was used (the doctor that my friend was going to was a moron and said it was nothing/had nothing to do with the baby powder/had to be something else up to and including mold in the house). When she was about 4 months old, she had a massive attack, had to be rushed to the hospital and had to stay for almost a week. She even stopped breathing for a while at one point. After talking to the ER doctors, they told her that the most likely cause was the baby powder. She talked to a few different dr.s while in the hospital and all of them told her that they would never recommend using baby powder for that exact reason. It's not safe for consumption and it gets into your lungs when you breath it in. It's not much different than breathing in drywall dust.

As for the bum rash, don't use soap, just warm water, let her soak for a few min to loosen everything off. Soap will just dry her skin out and make it worse. Use a super soft cloth, like fleece. Also, keep her bum out to the air as much as possible. The air will do her good. As bad as you make it sound, I would suggest heading to a dr. to get some antibiotic cream at this point. If the skin is broken, you need to be using antibiotics. If it's not horrible, you can still use something like polysporin. I wouldn't suggest using regular diaper rash cream on broken skin. From what I know, rash cream is more of a preventative measure BEFORE it gets that bad.
If you go to a dr (preferably a different dr, maybe at a walk in clinic) they should be able to tell you whether or not it's a yeast infection like some people have suggested. I've never dealt with that with either of my kidlets, so I really can't say anything there.
Good luck with your little one :) hope that bum clears up soon :)

Amy - posted on 08/01/2011

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I swear by aquaphor. My son had the worst diaper rash when he was just a few weeks old. We found out it was due to lactose intolerance. The lactose gave him diarrhea and his poor bottom was so bad it would bleed. It's the only thing that worked. If it's a yeast rash I was told to use a light coat of the over the counter yeast infection cream. It worked.
As for the milk I too agree that breast milk is best. However, there are several extremely judgmental women on here when it comes to breast feeding. Some women can't breastfeed. I was one of them. I tried very hard and even saw a lactation consultant 3 times within the first few weeks of my son’s life. I simply wasn't producing enough milk. I would pump for hours a day trying to get my milk production up; I even tried eating as much of foods that were said to help increase your milk production. Nothing worked and in the end I had to do formula and I don't feel one bit guilty because the first rule is to feed your baby. I thank God that things like formula were invented because otherwise I wouldn't have been able to feed my baby unless I hired a wet nurse!

Cheryl - posted on 07/31/2011

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Cornstarch is an age old remedy, not used anymore, but I heard it was good in the old days. Change diapers more often than normal when they have a rash and always use some vaseline at the very least. The actual cows milk is a bit difficult for a young baby to digest, so she should actually have formula till shes a year old and you can then change over, but babies should be receiving a min. 600ml daily at that age. She needs some calcium! He's a quack, and I would never return to him.

Jennifer - posted on 08/07/2010

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I just read somewhere not to use cornstarch because it can cause a fungul infection.

Joanne - posted on 08/06/2010

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About the rash if the baby already has it then I would recommend desitin but after the rash is gone i suggest changing nappies every 3-4 hours even when it's not yet full even at night . I do this with my baby and he's never had any serious rashes just gets a bit red but never anything serious

Samara - posted on 08/06/2010

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My grandma from Brazil used to use cornstarsh on us and according to her its the best product .
Good luck !!

Tracy - posted on 08/05/2010

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I agree he sounds a litle crazy - not sure what they used in the stone age probably all breast feed, but a lot has changed since then - I agree with Julie Bower - it's more about the fat content, that is why babies at 1 yr should do whole milk until 2 vs 1-2% or skim, it aids in brain development. and for those of us that didn't want to breast feed - formula is a great thing - I work 40+ hours/week I just can't do it - and sorry there is no way I could do it till my child was 2 - something about that, I know it's best but not for me

diaper rash - in little babies powder and anything that flies in the air is not recommended -babies inhale it - not a good idea, you know how the stuff clings together when it gets wet, now picture that in your lungs, especially in an infant - I love desitin, or even better balmex, it really sticks though, so be sure the skin is really, really clean and it prevents stool from touching the skin, and that is what irritates the skin, or a good coat of vaseline, it guards the skin from the stool also - frequent diaper changes and keep the area clean. If it smells like yeast or looks more like pimples it could be a yeast infection also, which as we know loves dark, warm moist areas and what is the diaper area? then you would need a script from your doctor for nystatin cr - it does wonders -good luck!!!

Eunece - posted on 08/05/2010

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Wow! Im really not suprise that someone 75+ would say something soo crazy! But I am suprised a doc would!! He is suppose to tell you what is medically accurate not old wives tells from back in his day!! LOL

Maureen - posted on 08/05/2010

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Could be something she is eating, have you introduced something lately, try and put it on hold as it may be aggravating the rash and go back to it when the rash is gone. I have also noticed that acid foods like citrus fruits and any other thing you may think of make the rash worse.

Also note that if its thrush, you could use an anti-fungal based cream, give her as much nappy off time as is possible.

Metanium works wonders, most of my friends could swear to it.

All the best.

Shelly - posted on 08/04/2010

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Corn starch works wonders. My daughter doesn't like the smell of baby powder. Weird, I know. So for her rashes I use corn starch.

As for the doc, I say trust your mommy gut. You will be the one knows best.

Marla - posted on 08/04/2010

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Hi, I have heard about the milk thing. I have read that babies should only have breastmilk and formula was noted as "fake" milk and people shouldn't have cows milk because it is actually made for a calf not humans. I can see where he is coming from but he could be a little more understanding for your current situation and the culture we live in.

Rash... I tried Zinco-fax worked on my son but not by daughter. She was really sensitive. Cornstarch does help but I found "LUNAR ECLIPSE DIAPER RASH OINTMENT" and it has worked wonders and it doesn't stain cloth diapers either. Also try adding epsom salts to the baby's bath it will really help with the rash.

Good luck! The doctor sounds like a prize... :(

Stephanie - posted on 08/04/2010

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ANGEL BABY BOTTOM BUTTER is the only thing that worked for me, sudo cream and zinco whatever and anything else always locked in way too much moisture and unless it's 100% dry before you put it on which is hard to do it will make a diaper rash worse. I use this balm as a lotion now everytime i change her after a poo and that has prevented her rash from ever coming back again. You can order it online or go to a health store, it is all natural and organic. Amazing stuff!!

Stephanie - posted on 08/04/2010

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your doctor sounds weird, claiming everyone's been brainwashed. my girl drinks (and loves) formula, and when she had a rash, we used desitin and it cleared right up. maybe i've been brainwashed, but when something works, i'm going with it!!

Judie - posted on 08/04/2010

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OMG, I swear by cornstartch! When my son had a rash on his booty I used desitin, A&D, Butt Paste and many more. My mom said to use the cornstartch and I was kinda sceptic but I did it anyway (has to be the pure cornstartch). His rash was better after the first full day and gone after the second.

Marilyn - posted on 08/03/2010

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I have done a lot of research on cows milk and most doctors will tell you NOT to give it to your child before 1 year of age. It does not contain the necessary nutrients needed for a baby and it can actually cause heart palpitations and heart failure in infants!! Not worth the risk if you ask me. As far as formula (I nursed and am a firm believer in nursing your children because it contains everything your baby needs) a infant DOES need those nutrients until at least 1 year of age, longer if it was a preemie. Thats just my opinion. And my doctors.
OH- and personal experience, Desitin and other (white) ointments actually made his diaper rash worse and the only things that actually worked are A&D ointment and the thing that worked best was burning regular flour (cooking flour) in a dark skillet (iron skillet) and putting about a teaspoon in his diaper. It worked within a day! I dont know how, but it did the trick!

Kerry - posted on 08/03/2010

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if its not a yeast infection, but just nappy rash, then Metanium is what you need. Marvelous stuff, was prescribed by my doctor, but it's available on the shelf. Much better than Sudocream.

Lindsay - posted on 08/03/2010

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I would say that babies definitely need some kind of milk after 6 months.. weird. I've been reading a lot lately about how using cornstarch or any kind of powder on baby's is dangerous, If the baby inhales it, it can cause permanent damage to the lungs. Plus it doesn't really work. I find that Aquafor works the best because it isn't harsh but it works good.

Mary - posted on 08/02/2010

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Hi Jessica. It sounds like she has yeast or an allergy. definitely talk to a pediatrician you trust. Cornstarch is a great way to absorb moisture and prevent diaper rash it's possible there is a fragrance in the baby powder with cornstarch that is irritating her or she is allergic to corn. I would also coat her bottom in a thick layer of vaseline or aquaphor to create a barrier between her skin and the urine or poop. It also makes it easier to remove the poop without so much rubbing which is very irritating. In addition give her as much time without a diaper as possible to let her bottom air out. Good luck hope it gets better soon. Is there some new food she has tried recently that coincides with when the diaper rash started?

Tami - posted on 08/02/2010

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Hey! When he says cornstarch, he means Baby Powder. Next time you see baby powder..take a look. All it is ... is cornstarch. Anyway as far as the milk...that's a LOAD of bull. You are actually NOT supposed to even give them cow's milk until at least 12 months bc it can damage their liver..and as CRAZY as this sounds...if you switch ur child over to cow's milk before 12 months..w/o a doctor's note, CYS can take ur children from you. It's insane and I never knew that until I questioned it. I live in the state of California..I'm not sure if that differs by state or not but it's illegal here. Crazy, huh? You would think, being the mom, you would be the best to determine that for your child.

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NEVER EVER USE CORNSTARCH ON A DIAPER RASH- IT WILL CAUSE A YEAST INFECTION AND MAKE THE RASH WORSE!!!! All diaper creams are for diaper rash prevention only that should be put on at every diaper change to protect the bottom from sitting in a wet diaper. Baby powder is an old school way of keeping bottoms dry but is not effective. Neither will cure diaper rash. If your baby does develop a diaper rash call your doctor and ask for a prescription called Nistatin (an anti-fugal cream) it is used for nursing mothers with infected nipples, babies who develop thrush in their mouth and diaper rash . It is very safe and very effective. Also, do not use a steriod cream like cortisone it will only feed the fungus.

Nicole - posted on 08/01/2010

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he does sound a bit crazy and stuck in another arae :) cornstarch is great as it help to dry out the rash. the other thing you could try it cooled black tea- damp that onto the bottom with some cotton wool and then poweder the bottom with corn starch ( we used to use that on a neonatal ward)

Sarah - posted on 08/01/2010

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"Babies and children should drink milk for the FAT--kids need the fat for brain development."

Some better sources of high-quality fat include: avocados, molecularly distilled fish oil, flax oil, and later, nuts, especially walnuts.

Sarah - posted on 08/01/2010

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Not so crazy. In the Stone Age, what they did have was nursing moms. Remember the World Health Org. recommends nursing until at least 2 years old. There is an immunological milestone then. Also, cow's breast milk is intended to grow a small cow into a very large bovine. It's not ideal for human babies. And where does all that calcium in milk come from anyway? Could it be all the grass they eat? Yes! How about feeding our children some greens? Several servings a day? It's disturbing how far away we as a society have moved away from our "human nature."

Tarah - posted on 07/31/2010

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TRIPLE PASTE. It is $30 a tub but OMG it works. I've used desitin, balmex, beaudreaux, up n up, eucerin, sooooo many different ones just to save a few bucks but have always gone back to the TRIPLE PASTE. And yeah, that doc is QUACKIN!

Tanya - posted on 07/31/2010

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It's true that baby's don't need cow's milk if they are getting breastmilk... but they need breastmilk or formula. No need to drink cow's milk after that if you don't want to. Many vegans get by without it, but it's a good way to get calcium. There are non-dairy forms of calcium if you choose those instead.

I have heard of the cornstarch, but only to prevent diaper rash instead of baby powder, which you're not supposed to use because of baby inhaling it. I haven't used it, though. And I don't think it can cure a rash, only prevent it.

Beth - posted on 07/31/2010

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Dr, Denmark has always said humans are the only animal stupid enough to give their babies milk after they are weaned. Think about it, her approach is that God created babies and the design has never changed. I recently read a a article from Johns Hopkins on cancer and it said milk makes mucusand cancer thrives in mucus it also causes ear infections if your haveing that problem stop milk and see if it helps.

Meredy - posted on 07/30/2010

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I think the doctors right! Cows milk is for ababy cows not baby humans, we drink it and then wonder why we get milk allergies! Believe older people when they tell you things, they've been around a while, they would know!

Michelle - posted on 07/30/2010

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sometimes diaper rashes are caused by a yeast infection and it won't go away until you put some antifungal cream on it. this was very common for both my daughters, also if it is yeast and the doctor didn't tell you then get a new doctor they should be able to tell by one look.

Elizabeth - posted on 07/27/2010

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Not sure how to cure the rash. I've heard of cornstarch working, but we never had to go through with it.

As far as babies not needing milk after 6 months, my sister was that way. She weaned herself off of my mom's breast milk by the time she was 6 months old, and wouldn't have anything to do with it. Granted, my mom had to start suplimenting all the time with rice cereal, mixing up her food in the blender to make it the consistancy of stage 1 baby food, and tried to get her onto formula because of the vitamins. But, my sister's always been very VERY independant, so it depends on the baby.

Good luck with that rash.

Emily - posted on 07/25/2010

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Uh... yeah, they didn't use cow's milk or formula because they had mom's breastmilk!!!!! That doctor sounds like a moron.

Have no idea about the cornstarch.. I always use the Desitin overnight kind in the purple tube. Anything with a high amount of zinc oxide works good.

SarahJane - posted on 07/25/2010

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I have heard of the cornstarch thing... but I have not heard that babies do not need to milk after 6 months.... that's crazy.

Lani - posted on 07/24/2010

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I have not heard that babies don't need milk after 6 months, I have no idea where he came up with that idea...personally I would look into a new pediatrician.

As for the corn starch, I use baby powder with corn starch in it. Abbi gets a rash if she is not changed immediately after she wets or dirties. So her butt is always red in the morning...sometimes she gets lil sores. I have found that the corn starch works best for her. If it is really red or painful then I just use straight corn starch...

good luck!

Jessica - posted on 07/24/2010

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I have been using the Baby powder with Cornstarch, and its only made the rash worse.. shes screaming and its really really red! i am going to take her to the hospital! I have done everything i can! I cant hear her screams of hurt cuz of this rash!



I have also tried the Zinco fax with 42 % extra strength! Am washing her bum with soap and water after every poop to get the enzymes off.... It seems that nothing is working!..

Jacqui - posted on 07/24/2010

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i use the sudocrem on amelia's bum, and it has worked wonders for her, especially when she a nasty rash before her first tooth. i caked it on and used baby powder as well and the rash was looking a lot better in a couple of days.
i took amelia to the doctor one time and she was looking ill and they did nothing for her bacause they were afraid that if they gave her something it might make it worse, and they also said to let her immune system fight it. i was so annoyed, so i dont take her to the doctor now, just use the panadol and take her for her immunisations. of course if she was definitely really sick then i would take her to the doctor without hesitation.

Sally - posted on 07/24/2010

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Well, I can see his point. The way mother nature intended it was for babies to be breastfed. When did we start using cows milk and when was formula invented? We obviously survived before it. And personally, formula seems to me like just another toxic substance that is draining people of there money. BUT, to each his own, and we've got it, so we can choose to use it. Mother nature isn't always perfect - but then you can go into survival of the fittest, and I'm sure I could stir up some angry people if I get into that.
I don't know what his 6 month deal is. Babies should be breastfed at least a year, or longer if you choose. No one is profiting from that except for you, because you're saving so much on cows milk or formula. Formula should be used til a year and then replace it with cows milk.

No idea on the cornstarch, but I can see the similarity to baby powder, so hey, it might work.

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your doctor does sound kind of crazy. i mean, he is right. people did get along fine without all that modern science has given us. i would ignore the part about the milk/formula, but give the cornstarch a shot

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