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Sandie - posted on 03/14/2011 ( 16 moms have responded )

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hey, i already posted this somewhere else so i apologise if you already read it lol. no one replied so i thought id ask you all.

has anyones son suffered with balonitis (infection under the foreskin sometimes caused by ezcema) and if they have, did it come back again or was it a one off thing. my son recently had this and im worried it might keep coming back and they'll tell us to get him circumcised, which i dont want to do...anyone who knows what im talking about, advice would be great, lol, thanks!

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Rachael - posted on 03/17/2011

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uncircumcised males have a higher risk of a few different infections, and while they can usually be treated they can also cause strictures in the foreskin which could lead to erectile issues. What I would recommend is seeing a urologist to determine any prophylaxis so that you do not have to worry about recurrent infection. I personally believe in circumsising my sons, but I also (and more importantly) believe it is a personal choice that you should not fee forced into making. Stick to your guns if one Dr. tells you that is all you can do seek the opinion of a pediatric urologist before you go against your beliefs. Good luck!

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Holly - posted on 03/21/2011

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I looked at the sleepywrap.. the cloth I bought to make my own moby was $17.50 (ish) and I could have gotten it cheaper but decided to go with a prettier pattern lol.. :) The sleepywrap was a nice choice but still on the expensive end for a piece of fabric :) I like that I can go buy more fabric and change it up anytime I feel like it for around $20.. and still have another one to give away :)

Rachael - posted on 03/21/2011

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the sleepywrap is similar to Moby, but was cheaper when I bought mine. LOVED it and could nurse in it with no issues

Holly - posted on 03/21/2011

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You are VERY welcome :) Remember they can be used from birth to ..??? Whenever you stop carrying your child :) LOL.. I still carry my three year old in his :) I LOVE ours :) VERY cheap to make :) I grabbed someone and we went and split the cost and material. A few other folks ponied up the dough alone and then either sold the other portion or gave it away as a baby shower gift :) :)

Sandie - posted on 03/21/2011

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hiya, thanks for your links, i typed them into youtube and everything came up easily. i really like the moby wrap from watching the vids, i think when the time is right i will be getting one of those!! thank you so much :)

Holly - posted on 03/20/2011

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Darn .. my links didn't come out.. that sucks :( Let's try it in a pm :)



and I am SO THRILLED that you did some research and got better info :) Drs really should just keep up with this info better :(

Holly - posted on 03/20/2011

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I love my sling.. but what has worked EVEN BETTER for me is the moby wrap :) I AM IN LOVE WITH IT LOL :) Here are some links on A) How to make one and B) How to wear one :) It is amazing :) AND you can nurse in it with baby laying down or sitting up :)


Moby Wrap Demonstration - Video Demonstrations

How to Make a Wrap for Baby Wearing | eHow.com
YouTube - How to use the Moby Wrap
YouTube - how to tie a moby wrap
YouTube - Getting your baby into the Moby Wrap
YouTube - My Favorite Back Carry with a Wrap this one won't be until babe is much older..
YouTube - How to tie for the "Hip Hold"- Moby Wrap

I grabbed another momma who needed a moby and we made two for $35 apiece :) If you only wanted one.. purchase you could do it for half that price ;) We made two.. one cotton and one fleece :) :)

Sandie - posted on 03/20/2011

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ooohh ouch, when you explain it like ripping a nail i can imagine how horrible it must be!! ive changed the way i clean him now since talking to you and doing some research online, even though the doc said it was fine, im starting to think maybe she didnt know what she was saying lol.

i live in the uk, i was so nervous when i first saw my new doctor, she wanted to know why i was still on a low dose contraceptive pill and when i told her it was for nursing i was expecting shock and maybe horror lol, but she was so excited and said how amazing i was!! :) im so lucky. i didnt realise how little training they have on the topic, even the midwives at the hospital were trying to stuff my breast into his little face, when they left i just laid him on me and let him do the breast crawl, he got there in no time at all i was so proud!! :)

thanks for all your help and advice so far...do you have any experience with baby slings? i was thinking it might be a good idea for when we have the next baby (hope to start trying after Lucas turns 2) because i cant see my son sitting still while i nurse non stop out and about, i thought maybe with a sling i could carry on with what im doing...but no one i know has ever used one, any tips? :) xx

Holly - posted on 03/19/2011

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*sob* Sandie.. where are you?? I need one of your drs!! :( My FIL has HORRIBLE penile issues from retraction and incorrect care and my MIL retracted my hubs so much and severally that he got an infection so she had him circ'd at two! :( When I came home with my first son intact I was ordered STRAIGHT back to the hospital because of the issues they had experienced... turns out it was *probably* the retraction :( The foreskin is fused onto the penis with the same type of *stuff* for lack of a better word.. that keeps your fingernails on. There is also it's own little village in there (similar to why women shouldn't duche.. you kill the good AND the bad bacteria.. use something else!).. so when you retract you are literally ripping his foreskin off of his penis and we have all caught our finger/toe nails and felt THAT pain.. imagine it on a penis! :( Not to mention that you kill the good down there:( You don't want to do that. The AAP recommends cleaning it the same way you would a finger that got put in the diaper.. wipe it off.. and move on :)

You are SO lucky you got a good dr! People get so many booby traps from the drs themselves and just don't understand :( Drs get 8 hours in 8 YEARS of training that focuses on breastfeeding.. now look at the age of your dr.. did they get that training several years ago?? Double scary lol... The only way you get a good pro breastfeeding dr is if that dr cared enough to look into it and get more training! Unfortunately many have other priorities or it just isn't important to them (it is my passion to educate on BF and Circ issues!) :) It is awesome to hear of an awesome dr.. male and an awesome EBF dr :) You are extremely blessed :)

Sandie - posted on 03/19/2011

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wow, im gonna do some more research i think, because my MIL and one of the hospital docs were talking about retracting properly. i used breastmilk in his eyes when he was little for ages because he was constantly getting them stuck shut, he eventually needed his tearduct probed when he was one, which is perfectly cleared up now thankfully, but i didnt even think to use for this, great idea!!

my last (male) doctor was always very pro breastfeeding and always congratulated me each month we kept going, and my new doctor nursed her children until they were about 4, so ive been really lucky to have understanding docs!

Holly - posted on 03/19/2011

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You are welcome :) You might ask another dr.. I had TWO peds (fired that moment) and two drs in the ER after the first dr retracted my son.. all tell me that retraction is fine.. and 40 years ago (and even not so far back) it was the recommendation. Recommendations have changed :) The AAP now recommends that you not retract .. at all.. not even a tiny bit. I was so appalled that the ER drs and then two peds said it was fine. I fired one on the spot, dressed my son and walked out. The second one, when my son was having issues from the retraction, told me it wasn't the retraction that had caused the issues because it was not a problem and you *needed* to pull the skin back a bit to keep it clean.. My MIL (total tool) told me the same thing.. I finally found a ped that knows to leave my sons' penises alone and wound up having to literally call uriologist and the first question I asked was "In an intact boy, do you retract the foreskin". If they said yes I hung up immediately.. if they said no we chatted until I found one that could look at my sons penis and tell us how to heal it. :( Drs are so CLUELESS.. they don't know jack about BF and circ they seem to know even less.. :( It upsets me greatly :(

The foreskin should never be moved until the boy is either washing or *playing* and retracts it on his own :) Retracting it for him can lead to several problems under the skin (including adhesions!.. very painful).. and infections. The breastmilk was the most beneficial thing for my sons penis.. : )I also use it on any diaper rashes and ALL cuts/scratches/owies!! !!! :)

Sandie - posted on 03/19/2011

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hiya, i showed his doctor how i clean him because i was worried it was me doing it wrong, she said im doing it fine. i didnt think about breastmilk, thats a good idea, i will keep that in mind, thank you!! :)

Holly - posted on 03/19/2011

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I have a question.. did you retract his foreskin? Has it been retracted? It is not recommended to retract.. the penis should be cleaned.. like a finger.. outside only. Have you tried to apply breastmilk to it (if it comes back that is what I recommend!) :) Breastmilk heals all (or almost nearly all!!!) LOL :)

Sandie - posted on 03/19/2011

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hiya, thanks for your replies. he's back to normal now. i'm going to be even more vigilant about cleaning him than i was (if thats even possible, lol) and teach him about personal hygiene as soon as he's old enough to understand what i'm talking about! :)

his doctor has said it should be a one off, but now i will know what to look for from early on, it should be easy to clear up before it gets nasty, fingers crossed this was a horrible one off event.

Jennifer - posted on 03/14/2011

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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth...

My son is only 6 mons old and we've never had any foreskin issues at this point. However, it looks like it's nearly always treatable. So even if it would come back, it looks like it's easily treated with steroid creams and/or antibiotics. The link says that surgical treatment is rarely indicated :) Good for you for keeping your son intact! I hope he has no more issues.

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