breastmilk quanitity? do other moms get this much or got this much too? is this usual?

Melissa - posted on 08/11/2010 ( 11 moms have responded )

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hi, i had a minor surgery on right breast 10 years back to get rid of benign lump. my ds is 12 weeks old. i had a c-section. he was not latching initially on right breast. i had to use the nipple shield and later after lots of efforts he started latching on the right one. my main issue right now is milk supply, i am struggling with it. when i pump for 20 mins i get 2 oz from the left breast and 1 oz from the right breast, i have been getting this quantity from past 1 month. i have tried everything to boost milk supply-feungreek medicines, keeping myself hydrated etc. but nothing seems to work as he is not gaining weight his Ped asked me to start formula thrice a day, whenever i give him formula i pump and freeze the milk just so that the milk supply doesnot reduce. i have resumed work since last week. my question is, do others produce this much quantity milk as well after 12 weeks of delivery?? what can i do to increase the quantity? will i be able to boost milk supply after 12 weeks of delivery? please guide as i am planning to breastfeed him atleast a year.

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Yes, it's very useful information - you don't need to go measuring ounces etc if he's having enough wet nappies. And pumping certainly helps, but it's nowhere near as efficient as your baby's feeding directly from your breast. A suggestion - many babies are very unsettled and want to be cluster fed sometime in the evening. This might be a good time for you to give him lots of feeds when you get home from work.

All the best.

Also, this information on breast refusal might help:

http://www.breastfeeding.asn.au/bfinfo/r...

This website has some hints about sleepy babies. It is mainly about newborns, but youmightfind it helpful!

http://www.breastfeedingbasics.com/html/...

This is useful information, too.
http://www.health.qld.gov.au/ph/document...

Hope these help.

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Melissa - posted on 08/12/2010

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thanks Kathy for sharing this link, i came across various links and information but this link is new to me, i appreciate it. the issue is i am getting this quantity since he was 6 weeks i think and now he is 12 weeks so i expect the milk supply to increase with time just so that he feels sufficient when he feeds as he is growing.

Melissa - posted on 08/12/2010

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Jessie, thank you very much for your suggestions! if i do not feed him formula than he hardly gains any weight, i have tried it but than when i see him not gaining any weight i feel that i am being unreasonable and being a bad mom. yes i do need to start pumping after every breastfeeding, i havnt done that. after pumping at work thrice a day, i dnot have energy to hold the pump and bottles for additonal minutes, time to buy the pumping bra it seems.
i have tried everything to make him awake- detaching and putting him down, changing sides, giving burps in between, checking diapers, using wet cloth on his forehead and cheeks, tickling him on his feet and neck, pulling his ear, it jsut works for a second and than he falls asleep again. lol but yes i havnt tried taking bath along with him- will do that, hopefully it works. thanks again!

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Hi Melissa, I think everyone has said it - put him to the breast as often as you can - the more he feeds the more your breasts will be stimulated to make milk. Here's some information from the Australian Breastfeeding Association about how to tell if your supply is adequate and how to increase it if required:
http://www.breastfeeding.asn.au/bfinfo/f...

All the best.

Jessie - posted on 08/11/2010

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ok here is something I did with my baby to get him to 'stay awake' and nurse. it was a problem for me in the begining he would just suck (like a baby does on a pacifier or thumb) and fall asleep and not get any milk and would do it for hours if I let him. then when I detatched and put him down he would cry because he was still hungry. take a bath with your baby and nurse in the tub. he will stay awake better that way and actually get some milk in him. sounds weird but I swear I read it in the book I got at my breastfeeding class and it worked for us. I did it more than once for several days until he got the hang of staying awake. you can do other things to keep him awake too, tickle his toes, skin to skin, different positions, etc. it will get better I promise my son is over a year old and if I can do it, you can.

Jessie - posted on 08/11/2010

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I was never able to pump a lot and my breast always produced different amounts (the left produced twice as much as the right ) your are actually getting a fairly good amount. take the formula and throw it away. you need to out your baby to breast as often as possible. the baby is the best pump/milk producer in the world. pump for a few minutes after feedings to make sure you are empty and that way your body knows it needs to make more. keep doing everything else/ fenugreek, fluids, etc. you can do it! xoxo

Melissa - posted on 08/11/2010

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Thanks Celeste and Sara, I appreciate the responses. I am feeling better. I went through the discussions in circle of moms earleir and i read that many people get 5-8 oz average from each side so that made my doubt stronger that i am not producing more. regarding minimum 6 wet diapers, yes he does that but as i mentioned i do supplement the feeding with formula as well so not sure whether he is full with mine or not.
more background on the feeding: my son was 5'8 when he arrived, as he dropped 11%of his weight, ped asked me to start supplementing with formula thrice a day, whenever i did that i pumped at the same time. when he was 8 weeks, he weighed 8'6 so i reduced feeding him formula from 3 bottles to 0-1 bottle a day. few days back i realized he is not as playful as he was earlier and that he is loosing weight. when i weighed him, he weighed 8 pounds. after seeing this number i have started supplementing him 3 times a day again.
background on feeding sessions: whenever i feed him, he falls asleep. in all these 12 weeks he has never stopped sucking or given me an indication that he is done. the feeding goes on and on as he keeps falling asleep and i keep waking him up. finally i get tired and i stop it. so one feeding session takes almost 1-1.25 hours until i give up and than when within 15-20 minutes he cries for more and i feed him around 1-3oz of formula and he is satisfied.
at times when i feed him formula completely, he still has 3 oz, i try to feed him 4 oz but he never takes beyond 3 oz.
yeah i do offer him breast for feeding once i am home for stimulation

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That sounds perfect. The average output by a pump is .5-1 oz and that's total for both breasts. So it sounds like you have plenty. It's normal for one side to make a little more than the other. Remember that your baby can get more milk out than your pump. The best way to tell how much milk you have is by diapers. Does he have 6+ dirty diapers a day? If yes, then your supply is fine. Here's more info on how to tell if you have low supply:
http://www.kellymom.com/bf/supply/low-su...

The best way to help baby gain weight is to breastfeed more often and make sure you thoroughly empty the first breast before switching to the other to ensure that baby gets plenty of fatty hindmilk.

Celeste - posted on 08/11/2010

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One thing to keep in mind, pumping ouptut isn't an indicator of supply. As long as he's getting plenty of diapers (6-8, no matter content), your supply is fine.

Secondly, your pumping output is actually average, even above average. Average *total* is 1/2 to 2 oz and you're getting 3 oz. With pumping, it's also normal for pumping outputs to reduce. This doesn't mean supply reduction, however.

The best way to increase supply is to put him to breast as much as possible when you're at home.

Here's some info on pumping on kellymom:
http://www.kellymom.com/bf/pumping/pumpi...

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