Supplementing help

Amber - posted on 08/22/2015 ( 5 moms have responded )

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Hello all. I'm new here. Sorry if this is the wrong place to post this. I made an account because I am completely desperate. I apologize in advance because this is long.

I have an 8 month old daughter who I've been breastfeeding. But my supply is, according to the lactation consultations and her lack of weight gain, drying up. I'm losing anywhere from half an ounce to an ounce every time I get my period and no amount of supplements, pumping, power pumping, lactation cookies, and extra nursing brings it back. So I have go supplement. My daughter's health is dependent on it at this point.

My trouble is this: she will not take a bottle from daddy, auntie, or a sitter. They've all tried since I know me trying to give it would be like trying to pull teeth. She will no take a sippy cup with a soft or hard spout and she won't take one with a straw or a cup with no lid (that just results in a mess and breastmilk I can't afford to waste going everywhere). We were starting with me pumping a few hours after her bedtime just to get some and get her used to a bottle again. But she will not take it even if it's been 5 hours since she last ate!

We've tried several bottles, too. Breastflow, Tommee tippee, Dr. Browns, munchkin latch, and mam bottles. I gave her some apple juice via a medicine syringe to see if she liked the taste. She does. Then we tried offering it via a bottle and sippy which she refused. So it's the nipple, right? Not what is in it? I don't know.

What I do know is a have to have gallbladder surgery scheduled before another attack sends me to the hospital for emergency surgery. One way or another, I'm having surgery which means someone will be caring for my daughter for at least a few days to help me out. I won't be able to just leave so she doesn't know I'm home. If I didn't have to have her fed by someone else I'd say we could use a sns.

Sure, I plan to nurse until my supply is practically nothing but she still has to have a bottle or sippy. I just don't know how else to get her to try one. I don't know which bottle she'd take. She used to take the Breastflow bottles right from me. In fact she took one a month ago from me. I'm just desperate. I feel like we've tried everything and she's just going to refuse any and all nipples. Everyone keeps saying just use the sns to get her supplemented and used to the formula. But no one can give me tips on what to try to get her to take a bottle while I have surgery and recover! Someone, please help.

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Amber - posted on 08/23/2015

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So I ran errands today and my hubby attempted a 2 oz bottle with baby girl. He managed to get her to take 3/4 an ounce with tons of screaming and crying. He had to squirt the vast majority of that into her mouth. He said she took the bottle and sucked for a few seconds but then screamed. She never really took the bottle. She seems to not care what the liquid is. From how he talked it seems to be the nipple. We can keep trying them but Tuesday hubby will be heading to the field for 10 days. Since being consistent is supposedly the key, this is really bad because I don't have anyone else to help me that can offer a bottle. Meanwhile, my next period and therefore a loss of supply is fast approaching. I never got a call back from the doctor's office. I'm worried she is beginning to lose weight (before she just wasn't gaining). This is killing me...

Amber - posted on 08/22/2015

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I appreciate it. I just don't know what other bottles to try. My cycle hits in a couple weeks and my supply will take another hit. She won't take enough solids when I feed her to compensate. She will of daddy feeds her but he's military and frequently gone for training for weeks at a time. He also leaves before she is up and she's sleeping when he gets home most weekdays. I'm having my brother in law who is a doctor try to help tomorrow. My other sister in law who is a peds nurse practitioner said it just takes perseverance but I swear this kid is like me and I never took a bottle or cup of breastmilk when my mom tried weaning. But unlike me she's starting to not thrive.

Celeste - posted on 08/22/2015

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Sounds like you've got all the right people, which is GREAT..

Let me think on it and see if I can come up with an idea about the bottle issue.

Amber - posted on 08/22/2015

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I've seen 2 IBCLCs who both said she has no tongue tie (posterior or anterior) as well as an ENT who clipped the lip tie she had at 3 months. I'm not on birth control, no PCOS or other issues . The amount she is getting is 2 oz a feed. That's a weighed feeding, not me pumping. Last month it was 3 oz. I take nothing that could decrease supply. I nurse her every 2 hours, without fail. She's getting enough to stay hydrated but she's not gained anything since june.

When my hubby tried the bottle, sister in law, and the sitter tried I was out running errands. We're just trying to start with breastmilk before slowly adding a bit of formula to it til it's switched over.

Celeste - posted on 08/22/2015

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Pump output is not reflective of your actual supply. When you say lack of weight gain, is she not gaining weight at all?? Or just not gaining as fast as they think she should. Is your LC an IBCLC? Has she been evaluated for tongue tie (someone who has experience in tongue tie, lip ties and posterior ties) ? Do you have PCOS? On any birth control? Supply just doesn't decrease without an outside influence. Sounds like there IS something going on, but just not sure what..

I didn't read this anywhere, but were you in the house when you tried? Unfortunately, my twin boys refused bottles and since I didn't need them to take one, I never pushed the issue. I hope you find something that works! I'm sorry you're having to go through this on top of having to have surgery!

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