Abortion Advert.

Sarah - posted on 05/20/2010 ( 49 moms have responded )

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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk...

An advert offering abortion services will be shown for the first time on British television next week.

Marie Stopes International, a charity that carries out about 65,000 terminations a year at its British clinics, said that it wanted to encourage people to speak more openly about abortion, and reach the widest possible audience with information about its services.

However, the move started a row with anti-abortion campaigners who accused the charity of breaking advertising codes to “sell abortion” as if it were a consumer product. They said that they were considering what action to take to prevent further screenings.

The first advert will run at 10.10pm on Channel 4 on Monday and the campaign will continue until the end of next month.

What are your thoughts?
Are they trying to "sell" abortions, or just trying to give help and advice to those who need it?

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Abortion IS an option and they should be allowed to inform people of ALL the options whether or not you agree with it! It would be like a doctor not giving you all your surgical options JUST because he's opposed to one.....PRESENT ALL the options and let people make their own decisions!

Jenny - posted on 05/20/2010

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I see nothing wrong with it. There's pro-life billboard where I live and pickets outside the hospital on "abortion day" and occasionally lining the highway with children and others holding signs with pictures of fetus' on them. A mere mention of choices is not even on par with the disgusting display put on by pro-lifers (at least where I live).

Sara - posted on 05/20/2010

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My first thought is, it's ok for anti-abortion groups to advertise, so why not a charity that provides women's services?

Lindsay - posted on 05/20/2010

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I'm pro-choice but this made my stomach turn a bit. Get the information out there through billboards, newpaper, have it readily available and easy to access in the phone book. But TV seems to be too much for me.

Dana - posted on 05/20/2010

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I'm pro-choice but I think advertising abortions on TV is just too much.

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No need to apologize, Jess! I just didn't know if you knew what the ad was about....I totally respect your opinion and even though I'm not pro-life I tend to agree that IF it was promoting abortion in any way that I wouldn't like it being on TV!

Jess - posted on 05/23/2010

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To be honest I know nothing about Marie Stopes or the work her charity do... because they aren't here in Australia. But I must admit I was in a pretty feral mood last night when I wrote my post. Sorry ! I am pro life though, and I do think some things just shouldn't be on tv * with a little less bitchiness this time though*

Dana - posted on 05/23/2010

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I don't think there is anything wrong with pro-life billboards or billboards supporting organizations that offer info, birth control or abortions . Commercials are a whole other deal. I'd like to actually see what's in the commercial. Just because they don't mention the "word" abortion doesn't mean they're not talking about it.

Suzette - posted on 05/23/2010

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Why is it such a big deal to offer advice and services? I am pro life, but I believe that a woman (and the men involved) should know all the options that are out there. The ad doesn't mention abortion, it only mentions a charity that is out there that offers counseling services. So the big deal is what? That people aren't happy that there is a charity out there that offers abortion as one of it's services? I realize that everyone has differing opinions for whatever reason, but really there are people out there that are in NEED of these services. Even if there are those out there that are using these services for other than need, it's not anyone's business but theirs. It's their body to do with as they please until a law passes that says otherwise, which I highly doubt will happen.

As far as the pro life billboards, my husband and I recently (in June 2009) drove from Arizona to California then from California to Kentucky. (Tucson to Bakersfield and then Bakersfield to Fort Campbell to be exact.) We saw pro life billboards throughout. They are in Arizona, they are in California, they're in New Mexico, Texas, and they're in the South too. I can't speak for the Northern states, I haven't been up there anytime recently. On our trip though, they were everywhere. I couldn't tell you the exact cities we passed through, my memory sucks, especially during pregnancy, LOL!

Lucy - posted on 05/23/2010

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Dana, you are quite correct.

Marie Stopes is a charity that offers advice and counselling for women (and men, actually) on pregnancy related issues. They also provide sex education and sexual health support and information to many countries beyond the UK. One of the services they provide, in partnership with the NHS is abortions, but it is not the main body of their work and they are a non profit organisation, so they are not benefiting financially from providing this. Therefore, there is no reason this charity would be trying to "sell" abortions through TV advertising.

The advert in question is an advert for the charity Marie Stopes International, not for abortions. The word is not even mentioned in the ad.

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I totally respect ur opinion and pretty much agree with you, Jess BUT the ad wasn't JUST advertising abortions.....to my understanding the clinic provides support and offers advice, provides options etc. for unwanted pregnancies....I don't think they necessarily promote abortions. Someone correct me if I'm wrong?

Jess - posted on 05/23/2010

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I don't think abortion is something that should be advertised on tv. I think that trivialises the whole thing. I am pro life, and I believe in *normal* circumstances a women has her time to choose before she gets into bed, if you choose to have sex protected or not, your running that risk of creating a new life and you should be responsible for that choice.

I would not want to see tv commercials about abortion on my tv and I would complain to the network to have them removed !

Lady - posted on 05/21/2010

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Marie stopes offeres so much more than abortions, it gives advice on contraception and steralisation. It helps with men and womens sexual health in many countries world wide.
In the UK if you go to your local GP for an abortion you will be refered to the marie stopes clinic - they do charge but also do it on the NHS the same with all their other sevices if you get a referal from your doctor.
I have no problem with this advert at all and think it's very benificial to women - I don't see it pushing abortions on women because the clinic wouldn't give a women who isn't sure whether or not she wants an abortion one - they need to know she is 100% certain before they will allow her to have it - so anybody confused about what to do could go there and get help looking at the different options rather than just sitting waiting and worrying not knowing what to do. The clinic is there to help men and women so why shouldn't be allowed to advertise?

Dana - posted on 05/20/2010

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I don't think anyone is saying there aren't any of them. It's just not EVERYWHERE, as was stated.

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I've seen pro-life billboards in downtown Phoenix. There was a huge one real close to the 32nd Street exit ramp near a church. I remember it so well because the 32nd St. exit ramp was the one I took to the adoption agency when we were seeking adoption and the same exit ramp to the fertility doctor's office. The sign always rubbed me the wrong way for some reason.

Jessica - posted on 05/20/2010

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Again, like I said, due to painful contractions (and no baby yet! lol) I may have exaggerated, but I think it may be to that coming from somewhere where I never have to see that stuff, to driving along and even seeing a few seemed like a few to many to me.

Christa - posted on 05/20/2010

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Sara, like I said if people hadn't made such a big deal of it you would have no clue. Just watching the commercial says nothing to that effect. If you just watch the commercial without any background knowledge it is harmless. It was a big to do about nothing.





I will second that those signs are not everywhere. I've never seen one and been on MANY road trips across all the red states in the west. I will keep my eye out going forward though.



Back to the topic I would like to see this ad before really getting wound up about it. As we learned with the Tebow ad the hype can be worse then the actual thing.

Sara - posted on 05/20/2010

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@ Christa...I beg to differ. The commercial was made by a pro-life Christian organization, Focus on the family, and the history of Tim Tebow's mother was that she was advised by doctors to have an abortion as she was exposed to amoebiasis, but she carried the pregnancy to term...so, I'm sorry, but even though the commercial doesn't come out and say "You don't have to chose abortion" I don't think you can mistake what their overall message was. That's just my opinion.

Anyway, where I live there are many "Jesus is coming, Repent" signs everywhere intermingled with the "God is Pro-choice" stuff...conservative state.

Sharon - posted on 05/20/2010

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Unless they claimed this will clean & protect your floors, windows & ovaries from scum build up... no they aren't 'selling'.

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This is way way way off topic but we were at the mall the other night and there was a ginormous pick up truck, huge lift, monster truck tires, flames down the side... super "man" truck, if ya know what I mean... and then on the tailgate, wrote in a very lovely cursive it said "Real Men Love Jesus"



I swear, I nearly pee'd myself standing right there in the parking lot. I could not stop laughing.

Jessica - posted on 05/20/2010

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lol fair enough, I'm all contractiony and sore so i'm alittle on the exaggerating side, I mostly saw those signs in Nevada. :)

Dana - posted on 05/20/2010

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I just want to say...I live in the States. I don't see those billboards everywhere. lol I've actually never seen them at all. I've seen pictures of some of them in the south.

Just wanted to clarify, they're not EVERYWHERE. ;)

Jessica - posted on 05/20/2010

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I think it's fair for them to have there advert offering choice. I live in Canada and Ive seen many pro-life boards and posters so I agree that pro-choice should be able to equally have there say. It's funny that say that about the Jesus billboards and such Mary. My mom and me went on trip last summer, and we couldn't believe the insane amount of Jesus and God billboards EVERYWHERE driving through the states....it was creepy. They weren't even like peaceful loving msgs about faith...there was one and all it showed was a bleeding wrist, gushing blood and in bold letters underneath said " He died so you can live"...yep that makes me feel all faithy and loving...gah
Anyways, abortion would not likly be my first choice, but I am definatly pro-choice to women who do choose this.

ME - posted on 05/20/2010

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There are prolife signs all over my area...and when I used to drive from CO to IL a couple of times each year it was ridiculous...there weren't only anti-choice adds everywhere, there were anti LGBT billboards and signs on the highways...I saw one today that said, "this is Jesus' County"...(I guess people who don't believe should feel like they don't belong here then?). I don't know how much longer I can deal with this kind of crap...As soon as my husband finds a job, we are moving to a city...any city...

Christa - posted on 05/20/2010

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@Sara, that super bowl ad was not a pro life advertisement. It made no mention of it at all. If people hadn't made such a big deal about no one would have even known that was what their story was about. It just showed a mother who loves and worries about her son.



I actually have never seen a pro-life ad or billboard.

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That one drives me nuts, Kati....." Thank goodness your mother was pro-life "......so what if she wasn't? I would never know the difference because I wouldn't be HERE! RAWR...what a dumb ad!

Rosie - posted on 05/20/2010

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yeah sara, it's awful where i live for those signs as well!! there's a sign as you're leaving town that is just stuck in the cornfield that says "god is pro-life, are you?", and then on another highway out of town there's a sign that says "thank god your mother was pro-life" (cause apparantly anybody who's pro-choice aborts all their kids left and right. we're all pro-abortion).

Iris - posted on 05/20/2010

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I was just about to say the same Dana M. Abortion is one of the options out there, and women who decide to go that route should have the same access to the information about abortion as women who decide to keep or give their child up for adoption.

Sarah - posted on 05/20/2010

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Maybe my little town is a bit sheltered! lol
Don't know if there's pro-life or pro-choice campaigns in big cities or anything.

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I am pro-choice and agree with the advertisement. Some women may opt for keeping their pregnancy, some may opt for a legal abortion. It seems like a social service providing counseling, guidance, and options. I do hope that the advertisement is aired late in the evenings and not during family time. Abortion may not be an appropriate topic of discussion at some dinner tables. But I don't see anything wrong with promoting their charity and the services they offer. If it helps women with a safe procedure, then it sure as hell beats a back alley abortion with a host of complications or even death.

Sara - posted on 05/20/2010

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I live in a college town, and there are many of those "Pregnant? Scared?" billboards everywhere and signs that say stuff like "Abortion stops a beating heart". Plus there was that pro-life commercial during the superbowl this year...

Rosie - posted on 05/20/2010

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i have, we have a place here that's called birthright. they are faith based and offer free pregnancy tests, and help with adoption services. i think that they are good to have as well, since they don't directly say anything about NOT having an abortion in their advertisements. however when you get there, they're all about taking that choice away.

Sarah - posted on 05/20/2010

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Actually Sara, i've never seen a pro-life advert!
It said in the article something about pro-life organisations not having enough money to fund advertising.
Must be different over here! lol :)

Amie - posted on 05/20/2010

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The campaign asks 'Are you late?' - a question familiar to any woman who has missed her period, and directs women facing unplanned pregnancy to Marie Stopes International’s 24hr helpline, where they can receive non-judgemental support, advice and services. The commercial will air on Channel 4 from May 24th and throughout June.



I took that ^ from the Marie Stopes International website. If that's all it is, I don't see the problem with it. I'd like to see it once it's been aired. I'm sure it'll be available on youtube then. I don't see it as pushing abortion either. I don't know why that is ever brought up. It's an option, it's not a commodity anyone is trying to sell. The education needs to be there though for a lot of reasons listed already on this thread.



The charity isn't just for women either. It's for men as well and teens. To educate them, hopefully prevent pregnancies and STD/I's and if not, then there are options, counseling services, etc. Men get information on health screenings, vasectomies, STD/I's, and contraception.



It's a charity that works in 43 countries and they use their funds to educate people. Some in poor countries who otherwise wouldn't have the knowledge.



That has nothing to do with the ad but I saw a couple ask about the charity itself.

Becky - posted on 05/20/2010

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If they are just advertising themselves as a charity that helps pregnant women explore their options, I wouldn't have a problem with that. If they are advertising themselves as an abortion clinic, then I would. Not that I think that they are trying to sell abortions, but I don't like the idea of abortion being offered as the first or best option for a woman facing an unplanned pregnancy. So yeah, I'm prolife and think abortions should only be done in extreme cases where having the baby poses a risk to the mother's life, but I know they're legal, so I accept that. But I still think that all other options should be thoroghly explored before a woman decides on an abortion, it shouldn't be just a knee-jerk reaction type of thing.

Laura - posted on 05/20/2010

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I think they are just tying to give held and advice. I mean the thing ive found with lots of people who dont like abortions dont know alot about them.

Dana - posted on 05/20/2010

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Yeah, I agree, I don't think they're trying to "sell" abortions, I still feel it's off though.

Sarah - posted on 05/20/2010

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I think it is an abortion clinic, but it also offers advice on all aspects of women's health. Their website has contraceptive advice, sterilisation advice, STI screening, etc etc.

Predominately though, it deals with abortions.

I think there's a lot more to this charity than first meets the eye. That's why i don't think they're trying to "sell" abortions.

Dana - posted on 05/20/2010

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Well, is it the same as Planned Parenthood? Because Planned Parenthood is mostly for free/affordable Pap smears and free/affordable birth control.

Sarah - posted on 05/20/2010

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Just googled Marie Stopes to try and find out more (as i'd never heard of them) and it seems like they do offer advice if you are "unsure" as to what path you want to take.
I think that while their main function is to provide support and help to women that have decided to have an abortion, they also offer advice and help about the other options available.
They have councillors etc.

The advert itself (from what i've read) does not mention abortions, it simply shows a range of women who have missed their period, and promotes their helpline as a way for women in these situations to get some help.

Rosie - posted on 05/20/2010

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are they actually talking about abortions in the adverts? or do they just say choices? cause planned parenthood advertises all the time where i live on the tv, and radio, but they say nothing about abortions, they just talk about womens health, and family planning services. i see no problem with that, but for some reason once the word abortion comes into it i have a problem. seems to pushy for me, adverts should be saying things like choices and not only abortion.

Joanna - posted on 05/20/2010

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I can see why some people would have a problem with it, there's always going to be the pro-life/pro-choice debate.

Personally I think it's great that this charity is allowed to advertise their services. When I was pregnant at 16 it was because of an ad on TV that I found the company to go through to give my child up for adoption. So for other women in need, who don't really know what to do or where to go, this is a great option! Might there be more abortions performed because of it? Of course. But might there be fewer pregnant women doing drugs, getting into fights, etc (I've known a few to do those things in my day) to "lose" the baby, or fewer women stashing their newborns in garbage cans, or fewer illegal risky back alley abortions done? yes. And I'm all for those things being put to an end.

Sarah - posted on 05/20/2010

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I don't see a huge problem with it, though i'd like to see the advert before i make a final judgement on it.

As far as i can make out, Marie Stopes has a helpline for women who have missed a period or whatever, and they give help and advice and options to these women. Not ALL the women who ring end up having abortions, i don't think it's a case of ringing up and them telling women to have abortions. ALL the options are discussed.

I think that having this charity more widely publicised may be a good thing in helping to reduce the number of abortions performed later in pregnancies. If women know where they can receive advice and support for these issues, then their decisions may be made sooner.

I truly don't think they're trying to "sell" abortions, i think they are just trying to raise awareness for their charity which helps and supports women in these situations. :)

Christa - posted on 05/20/2010

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I have a problem with this, I know you're shocked. :-P So unless they are showing this as a last resort worse case scenario thing, which I doubt, then I think it's sick to be promoting these services. The idea is to reduce the number of abortions, not make them more readily available so people begin, or continue, using them as a form of birth control. Very sad. . . .

Shelley - posted on 05/20/2010

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I Have a question.
Do they charge for the abortions?
If they do it sounds like a maketing strategy. We have a product that you might need so we'll advertise it and and make money.
I personally am pro life!
i do however respect the other side of the story and peoples choice.

Lucy - posted on 05/20/2010

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Marie Stopes is a fully recognised, legitimate charity, and I think they should have the right to make people aware of what they do to help women in a difficult situation, just like any other charity.

Marie Stopes does not "sell" or promote abortion as a product. They are a non profit organisation which supports choice and sex education for women and girls.

Some young girls end up having much later abortions than they would otherwise because they are reluctant to go to their family doctor for fear of repercussions. If they know there is a charitable organisation they can go to without bumping into their next door neighbour, abortions which would have happened anyway will take place much earlier in the pregnancy.

Nobody on the advert is going to be pushing abortion as a contraceptive choice shouting "roll up, roll up! Come and get your abortions here!", it will just be informing people of the work of Marie Stopes and offering choices to women in a difficult situation.

This advert will only be providing information that kids (quite rightly) have access to in schools, youth centres, on the internet. IMO, knowledge is power, women and young girls should be aware that there are choices out there, and TV is a good way for a charity to reach a wide audience.

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