America as Global Police?!

♏*PHOENIX*♏ - posted on 08/13/2010 ( 16 moms have responded )

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I know im all over with my postings…but I am a woman who loves knowledge….I like to read about every and anything that *Sparks* my interest, from the latest shoes that Kim Kardashian wears, to what’s happening in congress…and everything in between. With that being said……

A topic I found interesting came up on a debate site im part of. They were speaking of America and how “we” like to police the world.
I found it fascinating , and compelling that we are thee country that feels we should butt into other countries with problems and try and fix them, make them better.
We have many problems of our own…. that we need fixing.

What do you honestly think…about the way America goes off and tries policing the world…

This was a quote from one of the debaters (obviously not American)

“America has declined in power and influence over the last decade. It no longer holds the sway it did. The sheer arrogance and ignorance of the nation on the world stage has caused many more problems then it has solved. The heavy handed approach of the past does not work in a new unafraid world, and the US has yet to adapt to it. America should take a back seat now, it has done well in a hard time, and should be pleased.

The world doesn't need the USA any more. With no threats of global wars nations are becoming more peaceful and finding new ways of solving problems.

The US economy is no longer the world's single dominating economy. There are other world markets that can be exploited, leaving the US out of the picture.

Give it 50 years and the US will no longer be a superpower, give it a bit longer and the US will be overshadowed by other places, such as China and the EU.”

WOW...Is that what most of the world thinks of us???

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Jenni - posted on 08/13/2010

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America is like the most popular girl at your highschool. She's beautiful, rich, smart and seems to have it all. But she's also a snobby, fascist, B to everyone. So the other kids either hate her or are jealous of her but they all fear her. I guess she's under the impression that everyone loves her because she's surrounded by "yes" 'wo' men who leech off her power. And they other kids are too afraid to tell her off because she would crush them.

Sharon - posted on 08/13/2010

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omg here we go again with bashing the US.

FIRSTLY - it was BRITAIN that moved ITS indigenous peoples here to kill off the the natives. NOT the US. The US was born later after it seperated from britain. yeah - the mindset continued and poor treatment of the native americans continued.

BUT OMFG. You'd think no other country in the world tried to take over another nation? Geezus christ its happening in the baltic states right now!

Tibet anyone? North & south korea? pretty recent fucking history there? HONG KONG bitterly disputed.

fuck - the afrikaans made slaves of their NEIGHBORS, they SOLD their neighbors off for some shiny metals and beads.

Do not lay the entire worlds problems on the historic doorstep of america.

Sharon - posted on 08/13/2010

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I don't really care what the others think of us.

I do think our government is more money motivated when it comes to its "help".

I wish it were more motivated to help those countries that have nothing to offer back, like darfur(sp?).

I also understand that we have to protect our interests as a nation and what all so I get it.

Canada isn't a "super power" financially or militarily and they get along just fine. If the USA is no longer a power, I don't see an issue.

Shelley - posted on 08/14/2010

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Unfortunately in reality we arn't all equal, multiculturalism doesn't work and sometimes America who is a super power needs to step in. As an Australian i'm pleased that we fight alongside the Americans and hope that if we were in trouble they'd come save our butts.

Laura - posted on 08/13/2010

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I'm conflicted on this one. Part of me agrees that the U.S. should pull back. Let others take over and pay the price both financially and world opinion wise. I do believe that the U.S. does make mistakes but you actually have to be invovled and doing something to make mistakes and the mistakes are the things that get talked about.

I'm currently reading "Stones into Schools" which is the follow up book to "Three Cups of Tea" by Greg Mortenson. He is the guy who has been building schools across Pakistan and Afghanistan for the past 15 years with his main focus on educating girls. He has had many struggles in Afganistan but one of his biggest supportors is the US Army. Three Cups has become standard reading material for all the higher ups being deployed to Afghanistan and they have used Mortensons experience and knowledge of Muslim traditions to gain confidence with the people of Afghanistan. One Commander in a remote area where the Taliban has retreated to asked Mr. Mortenson to come and build a school there because he agrees that education is the best counterinsurgency there is. The school was built and despite Taliban threats the people have found a way to keep the Taliban away. More schools have been built in this area and the Taliban won't have it's fresh recruits (hopefully). My point is, that while the larger purpose of being there is not favorable the military people on the ground there have an opportunity to do things that none of us know about or have the ability to even attempt to try to do because we don't have the resources that they do. When the earthquake in the remote area of Kashmir Pakistan happened in 2005 the US Chinook helicopters that were in Afghanistan were the only things that were able to get the relief supplies offered by all sorts of countries to the remote, mountaneous areas. What roads were once there were all blocked. Again, we are in Afghanistan for reasons nobody likes but if it weren't for the Chinooks what would have happened? I'll agree the US is brazen but there's alot that goes on that is positive that isn't reported.

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Johnny - posted on 08/14/2010

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Thanks for clarifying. From your original post, I thought you were saying something else. I totally agree with your last one :)

Shelley - posted on 08/14/2010

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not all countries have the same wealth, defence force and ability to protect themselves. Not all governments attempt to act in the best interest of their people. Therefor not all people are equal in wealth and protection.
I personally believe that all life is equally important but thats not how the world works

Krista - posted on 08/13/2010

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I think this is something that has been very common to most every powerful nation. I mean, look at Europe during the height of colonization and how they screwed over Africa by redrawing borders with absolutely no consideration for tribal politics.

Powerful nations have always felt the need to go screwing with other nations. And rarely has it turned out well for the screwed-with nation.

Sharon - posted on 08/13/2010

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I know carol - but geezus they make it sound like the US is the only place with its start in displacing the natives. Its not. just one of the more successful ones. I'm glad i'm here, but I'm a bit sad so many had to suffer for this to happen.

Johnny - posted on 08/13/2010

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Well Sharon, I think people on this thread are probably discussing America because that was the original question, lol.

Fiona - posted on 08/13/2010

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gods you almost gave me a heart attack there! i was having sudden images of doctor who's cybermen, and terminators dancing through my head when i read the title.

on a serious note, the post you quoted has it a bit wrong. we are in fact very close to yet another global war. whether or not it happens in part depends on whether or not the us invades i can't remember where, i'll get back to you on that once hubby's home for lunch, since he knows the details. if the us do invade wherever it is north korea will declare war on south korea due to the us not having enough forces to stop them. spread too thin and all that. now its not the only factor, but what the us does next will be a bloody big one. the doomsday clock (google it) is getting closer to midnight.

Johnny - posted on 08/13/2010

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When you look back historically at most of the "help" that has been offered by the American government, it is clear that the real motivations were self-interest and not simply just good-will. Particularly within the Americas, much of the "help" that was given in the 20th century was really designed to hold off the takeover of leftist or communist governments. Many of the results have been pretty terrible. Foreign intervention in conflicts often goes sideways, but usually the results are far worse & long lasting when it is a result of hidden self-interest.

Tara - posted on 08/13/2010

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Yep, that's how I see the US, and have done extensive investigation into their history to come to that viewpoint.
They were truly the first terrorists by their own definition. Invading the US, killing the indigenous peoples when they resisted the US. And going on to persecute anyone who didn't agree with their Manifest Destiny.
And now fast forward several hundred years, the US continues to go around the world force feeding their so called "democracy" onto any country were they feel they have something to gain from exploiting their natural resources.
The US is the bully in the school yard. Believing that their way is the only way and anything that isn't Americanized is "beneath them" and therefore in need of some intervention to bring them up to American standards. Does every country in the world really need a McDonalds? If the US spent even a 1/4 of their dwindling resources on world food programs the world would see millions of children live instead of die. The embargoes on Cuba and Iraq cost millions of lives, the war in Iraq has put your country into debt so far they will never climb out of it. And yet their are children in the US dying due to malnutrition, their citizens can not access the "world class" medical services available because they are too poor. In the land of the free????? Free to be exploited, free to be marginalized, free to be oppressed???
The US needs to be taken down a notch or 10 and come back to the real world. If only they could see how much good they could do with their money and resources.
If it's such a great place to live and work why do people like Plumbers, and electricians have to travel overseas to Iraq to get work????
Tara

Caitlin - posted on 08/13/2010

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I think the US has a tendency to want to "help" only when it benfits them (or can benefit them). No that I agree with what iraq/afghanistan etc.. were doing to their people, but honestly, it's still happening, and the only way to really stop it is to nuke it, pave it and turn it into a parking lot.. You can't fight a war of attrition, it historically hasn't worked very well, and I don't know why you guys keep trying. It's horrible, but the only way to win is to go in and kill.. kill on a massive scale, but then are you any better than them in the first place?

The world doesn't need the US to police.. they have the UN (which is useless as well IMO, but still..)

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Most of the world, I can't say for sure... But from what I see here in Canada, YES we do think the US is over-stepping their boundaries. Their international policies are more often than not resulting in violence which irks a lot of Canadians (and other countries I am sure). I am not saying that the US is only bad but I do believe that the US needs to chill out a bit and stop being so paranoid of threats left and right. If this country tried a more friendly approach to actually HELP other countries without the use of force, I am sure the threats would be much less to the US. You can't expect to put your nose in everyone else's business, impose your views/ways of living and think that everyone will abide and love you for it. A lot of countries do need help but imposing Western capitalist views on them surely isn't the way to go.

I think there is a need for a more open-mind attitude from the US. it would surely benefit their international relationships and in the same breath help their economic situation.

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