Baby proofing.

Tara - posted on 01/20/2011 ( 46 moms have responded )

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Before I derail Sal Greene's thread about kids and how relaxed you are,
How much do you baby proof?
Has it changed if you have more than one child?

Are you the type to prevent accidents and provide a safe place for your kids to explore or do you teach them not to touch things like potted plants, lamps, figurines etc.?

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Jodi - posted on 01/20/2011

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Nicole, I have no idea how old your children are, but we have a similar problem witho our kitchen and can't gate it off. I put a strip of bright red electrical tape down on the floor and taught my daughter that she could not cross this line. It has worked!! We actually ended up spray painting a line on our driveway too to keep her from running into the street (we kept it red to keep a "theme" going). It has really worked, she was 18 months when we employed it. As for the dishwasher, ours has a little lever thing that locks it so it can't be opened and depending on how new it is, some have a child lock button so they can't turn it on or off either. For a stove, we turn the light on when we turn the stove on and have taught our daughter that when the light is on, the oven is "hot" and she knows not to touch it, we started that when she started wwalking.

I won't lie, she comes into the kitchen when i'm cooking every once in a while, but fo rthe most part, she's great about respecting the red line. I should add, she's allowed in the kitchen when I'm not cooking because she is allowed into her snack drawer and can open the fridge to get a juice, a piece of fruit etc etc.

Sherri - posted on 01/21/2011

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To be licensed. You have to have nothing dangerous, all chemicals etc. put away, kitchens do not have to be gated couldn't in my home anyways since you have to walk through it it to get in or out of my home. We don't have any stairs, No fireplaces, all outlets just happened to be covered by furniture as it is a small house except for the kitchen but outlets are all up high. Check windows just to make sure they are safe and in good working order, They make sure their are two working exits out of home, they don't check bathroom floor or anything like that. Need to use liquid soap and papertowels or wipes. No hand towels, face cloths etc.!!
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6 wks. - 12 mos. (1:4)
13 mos. - 24 mos. (1:5)
25 mos. - 35 mos. (1:6)
36 mos. - 47 mos. (1:8)
48 mos. - 59 mos. (1:12)
60 mos. and older (1:15)

Now that I actually think of it my son's preschool has a kitchen and they also have toddlers their and the kitchen doesn't have to be gated their either. Actually the kids use it daily with the adults. They are always cooking or baking with the kids.

Krista - posted on 01/21/2011

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Yeah, I bought a bunch of new Rubbermaid food containers the other day, because they had a sale on, and when I took them out of the box, Sam's eyes just lit up.

Fireplaces and whatnot ARE tricky. We had a hell of a time figuring out what to do with ours, because our sandstone hearth is a rough semi-circle shape, and we just couldn't find any products on the market that would block it off from Sam.

Fortunately, my father-in-law has mad carpentry skillz, and he built a little fence for it that curves around the hearth, clamps onto the hearth itself, and bolts into the wall on each side. It's brilliant. And there's a little latch gate in it, so that we can still get to the wood stove to make a fire. He even stained it to match our bookshelves.

Loureen, if you know any good finish carpenters, ask them about a solution for your fireplace -- they could probably do something similar in scope.

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Jenn - posted on 01/21/2011

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I lock the cupboards and the fridge (got that lock after my son pulled out a dozen eggs, a bottle of ketchup, and a jug of juice), outlet covers, and put up/away breakables. Other than that, everything else is the same.

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We put outlet covers on every outlet. They pulled them all off systematically. We put cabinet hooks on the cabinets with chemicals until I totally redid my kitchen and moved all the chemicals up high. (medications included) I am never away from my kids to terribly long, at least not when they are under 5, and so I just never did all the extra proofing. We had baby gates because of our stairs. However, we did teach our kids what they weren't allowed to touch. i.e. entertainment center, outlets, (even with the covers on) etc. We don't keep potted plants except in my kitchen & those only up in windows or on counters. We never liked lamps so those have never been an issue though the know not to touch anyone elses when we go to visit. Figurines are the same. We don't have them around much but they know they shouldn't touch them.

Charlie - posted on 01/21/2011

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Hahaha that is so cute Emma , Cooper does the same and pretends to sleep !

Bonnie - posted on 01/21/2011

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LOL Krista, I put them away, but he notices too fast and just has to pull them out again. He has this new thing where he takes a small cooler that we have and stuffs small items like little people and cars, etc. I find it, empty it, and put the cooler away. Within no time he pulls it out of the cupboard and does it again lol.

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Yeah it works. LOL sooooooooo cute. I have photos of my son doing exactly that in our tuperware cupboard.

Rosie - posted on 01/21/2011

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i used outlet covers and baby gates. with my second child i had to use stove knob covers and a fridge lock cause he's a little shithead, but with my last i just used a baby gate between the kitchen and dining room. he's pretty good.
to me it all depends on the childs temperment.

Krista - posted on 01/21/2011

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Bonnie, you must be looking at my kitchen right now, because that's the exact scenario. He takes them out, and then when he moves on to something else, I put them away. Lather, rinse, repeat. So right now they're just all out -- I'll put them away when he naps.

Bonnie - posted on 01/21/2011

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Tupperware cupboards are always so exciting for little ones. It has slowed down now that my youngest is almost 2.5, but geez, he would take them ALL out, I would put them back and then an hour later or less, they would be scattered again. Some days I just said screw it and just left them out everywhere.

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We have a stairgate at the bottom of the stairs, I must get one for the top, then he can wander between the bedrooms on his own. We moved my wooden ducks purely because I didn't want them broken (and he broke one, superglue to the rescue) and this week we moved a side table that he was choosing to climb on to reach things on the fire surround (he is far too clever). We have the cupboard locks to fit in the kitchen because he keeps trying to drink the floor cleaner (which is why he's not allowed in the kitchen alone).

Stifler's - posted on 01/21/2011

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I've never bought my own either I buy those cheapo Klip It ones and Decore from Coles and Woolies if I need a new container for anything.

Jodi - posted on 01/21/2011

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LOL....I meant I don't really have any. What I do have was my mum's. I buy other brands because they are cheaper and often just as good :)

Stifler's - posted on 01/21/2011

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Mine either, it's all over the house HAHAHA I raided my grandma's tupperware to get it all was too scungy to buy my own.

Charlie - posted on 01/21/2011

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"The tupperware cupboard is a right of passage for every Australian child I believe."


Hahahaha that it is !

Stifler's - posted on 01/21/2011

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I don't really have anything dangerous, we've slowly gotten rid of it all as Logan has touched it and we've thought of ways he could have hurt himself on it. I have the sink cupboards locked and cupboards with glass dishes that could get broken. The low power points have those outlet covers so he can't stick things in there. The toilet and bathroom doors stay shut and our room or else there'd be toilet paper all in the toilet every day. The tupperware cupboard is a right of passage for every Australian child I believe.

Jodi - posted on 01/20/2011

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Yeah, I knew our regulations were pretty strict because Mike's mum did family day care for a number of years, and she had to go through all of that to get approved.

Charlie - posted on 01/20/2011

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I know here Jodi Family day care must be fully baby proofed and secured before operating , sockets plugged , cupboards locked , kitchen gated off with only access with an adult , fully fenced ( must be approved ) and children must have an adult present at all times with a ratio of 1 -5 and up to 7 in holidays or after school , all windows must be made of safety glass and non-slip floor in the toilet .



Im sure there are more but off the top of my head I cannot recall it all , that goes for all family daycare's in Australia .

Sharon - posted on 01/20/2011

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I did it all.

I didn't remove stuff that wouldn't kill them. vases, pictures. At the worst they might get a cut. a shame but a good learning experience.

I never lost a vase or picture. I did, however, lose a dozen eggs to a wall, under a twin bed, while heavily pregnant and napping... I still don't know why he did that.

Jodi - posted on 01/20/2011

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I can't remember for my oldest. We really didn't baby proof much at all. I had locks on the cupboards with the chemicals, and just put most of the breakables up high, but in general, he wasn't a kid who got into anything. Really, he wasn't. He was happy playing with what I gave him to play with, so if I was in the kitchen, I would open my plasticware cupboard, and he was happy.

My youngest was another story altogether. We had moved by then, and we had a house with really steep stairs inside, so I had a gate for them. I also put locks on many of my kitchen cupboards. I didn't bother with the bathrooms or the laundry because I was able to shut the main living areas of the house off from those. Once she reached a certain age, I had to put child proof handles on the door knobs. Our final touches were patio bolts on the doors, and a chain on the front door, because she discovered how to let herself outside.

Jodi - posted on 01/20/2011

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Sherri, don't you have to have baby proofing where you are to run a daycare? Or is yours not licenced? Around here you have to have a licence and they inspect your house for things like that.

Sherri - posted on 01/20/2011

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Depends on your child. The only child proofing was a child gate at the bottom and top of stairs for the oldest two.



The youngest (we moved by the time the youngest came) I had to put a lock on one of my cabinets, a fridge lock and a stove lock. He was a climber and door opener. I learned and taught him to do stairs very early and never had child gates on them. He was going up and down the basement stairs on his own by 15mo's, just holding the railing.



I allowed my kids in the kitchen even when I was cooking. We have had some of our best talks that way. That is as far as my baby proofing every went. They learned not to touch things that didn't belong to them, I refused to rearrange my house for them.

Nicole - posted on 01/20/2011

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My children are 4 and 1.

If there is no lever, I can get one.

I still feel that I will need something more to keep her out of the kitchen as the risk is pretty big.

Nicole - posted on 01/20/2011

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My baby proofing is affected by having more than one child. The socket covers don't work because my son would pull them out and teach my daughter to do the same.

I rebabyproof the house every few months, each time my daughter finds a way to get around my previous babyproofing.

I am moving into a better place next month, but the kitchen is going to be hard to baby proof. It has a dishwasher so babyproofing the room is going to be very important. The entrance to the kitchen doesn't meet up, so a baby gate won't work. (hard to describe)...One wall is more in than the other and they are both on an angle...not sure how to work this.

Lindsay - posted on 01/20/2011

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We had outlet covers and cleaning supplies up high in a locked cabinet. That was about it. I'm one that doesn't do clutter so we don't have many "things" out around the house anyhow. We kept the doors closed to all the bathrooms and to the basement steps. By the time either of the kids was able to open the doors, they had mastered the steps. I have a gate that has only been used when we were transitioning each from a crib to a big bed. That's all I've got. :)

Charlie - posted on 01/20/2011

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Yeah I would have a gate if I had big stairs my new place has an open fireplace and even though Cooper knows not to touch it is hot Harry is crawling like a demon and has no idea of the danger so we are going to have to work something out there .

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krista, if i had stairs, a gate would be blocking them.





I dont use chemicals, so i have no chemical cupboard. If i did, they would be moved as well.

Jodi - posted on 01/20/2011

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My house is babyproofed to the max. Mostly because I once ran an in home daycare, I quit it when I went in bedrest with my first. So we have outlet covers, table corner protectors, gates that screw into the wall, cupboard locks, door guards, toilet lock, nothing breakable down low, drawer locks, burner knob protectors etc etc etc. I have to admit, it's nice not having to say no or continually have to redirect her to not do something. And to boot, she has always left all of these things alone at other's houses! (except my in-law's VCR, she has some sort of fascination with that thing!) It has worked out well for us and I'll probably leave it all up until the kids are older and I'm positive I'm not going to pick daycare back up.

Krista - posted on 01/20/2011

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I'm a bit more of a "babyproofer" than some of you ladies, I guess. I have the outlet covers. I have the gate at the bottom of the stairs (not at the top, because we're never up there for long anyway, and he's never out of my sight when we are.) Anything breakable is up out of reach. I have drawer locks on all of my kitchen drawers, mainly because the drawers are heavy and I don't want him jamming his fingers. We also have a huge sandstone hearth for our wood stove, and I have that gated off because a) we don't want him tripping and smashing his head open on it, and b) we sometimes want to put a fire on the wood stove, and it's nice to not have to worry about him trying to touch the hot stove. And I have a cupboard lock on the broom closet, because it has our cleansers in there. We also lock the door to the basement, because the little fart knows how to open doors, even though he's only 16 months.



It probably seems like a lot, but it does allow me to relax a lot more and not always be after him to not touch this or not touch that. So he can play and run around, and there are some cupboards that he CAN explore freely (i.e. my tupperware cupboard).



I can run to the bathroom (on the same floor) and not worry about him getting into something that will hurt him. I teach him to be gentle with things like our plants, and each other. And I've been teaching him "no touch" with his dad's computer (with mixed success thus far, I'm afraid.)

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For our first everything went up and just hasn't come back down yet. Our chemical cupboard is down low because we have no high areas for anything but it is securely locked.
I have noticed that my 1st got into more than my 2nd has because it seems he is more intent on following her and she isn't interested in those things anymore so they seem to leave them alone.

Bonnie - posted on 01/20/2011

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I tend to just keep things out of reach if I can. Anything glass is kept higher up on shelves. My younger son has a habit of going into the pantry and taking things (such as the peanut butter container, cans of food, etc.) out of the pantry and put them in another cupboard. Everyday I am putting things back where they belong. Majority of the unsafe items are not within their reach. We have outlet covers throughout the house and that is about it. In our old place we use to have the door knob covers and cabinet locks, but when my older son was around 20-24 months he learned how to open them and sometimes even remove them, so we figured there was no point.
I'll just mention this quick story: My parents use to have a wine rack in their livingroom back when my brother and I were little and one day my brother got a hold of two bottles of wine and thought he could make music and clung them together. Needless to say, the bottles broke and there was wine everywhere.

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sign language is a HUGE help in teaching babies to be careful. I do the gentle sign to gab whenever shes being rough with something. She does the sign back then continues what shes doing much more gently.

Melissa - posted on 01/20/2011

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oh I had the baby gate to forgot about that, except the she learned how to use it. I needed that because of the oven obviously and the kitchen is next to the laundry which has cat and dog bowls and water plus cat litter so she def couldnt go inthere. Everyone tripped over it though so it was a bit of a pain in the ass

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Covers on the sockets and harmful chemicals in higher cabinets. Things I care about and don't want broken are on higher shelves. That's it. We teach safety, and it's worked with this kid. We'll see how things go with the next.

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i have a gate to prevent her from going into the living room when we're in the kitchen/dining area and vice versa. my apt is too big for her to be at the other end by herself. I cant here her. Other than that, i'm about the teaching not to touch any why. Still letting her explore her environment so she can teach herself what everything does :)

Charlie - posted on 01/20/2011

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I put power socket covers on and a lock on the cleaning cupboard , that was it .

Other than that I have just taught Cooper to be careful and he is , yes he very occasionally breaks something by accident and that is no one elses fault but my own when I leave breakables out but generally he safe around glass and pottery anyway , he is free to hold and touch statues and figurines as long as he is gentle and places it down nicely , pot plants he digs in which is fine , I love to nurture exploration and I believe allowing them to explore the delicate things in life helps them learn to be gentle much quicker .

Melissa - posted on 01/20/2011

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I prefer to teach not to touch things but havent got heaps of experience yet only one nearly 3 year and 6 month old who isnt crawling or getting around yet. I moved all the photo frames and things off lower shelves that she used to get too and we removed the door off our tv cabinet (she kept slamming it) locks on some of the cupboards apart from that we are not over the top. When we had a carer in everything had to be perfect and had to purchase fire blankets have all doors closed off etc. A friend of mine has 6 kids shes the same but her kids have sometimes got into things they shouldnt. she prefers to smack to teach at any age even though I dont think they quite understand at the ages we're talking about lol. The ornaments on the lower shelves with have to be moved up again when my little ones starts crawling and walking. My oldest had a wickd time with the DVD cabinet too liked to pull out all the DVDs and cds on a daily basis. The biggest mistake we ever made was making bubble liquid with detergent and glycerine puttig it on the back of the bench andf the 2.5 yr old climbed up something pulled the lid off and drank it - dont think it tasted too good lol but we rang heath direct to find out its harmless

Tara - posted on 01/20/2011

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For me:
I have learned it is easier and more fun to just put everything that they can't have up or out of reach, or anchored etc. and let them have at it! This applies to all common living spaces and our bedroom. My girls all have their own "wing" in our house. (it's a big old haunted like house, not a big beautiful new house with velvet walls and those other kind of 'wings') and we just have their hallway gated from our hallway that has Riley's room, our room, the laundry room and our bathroom. But downstairs, other than the music room he has free reign. Stairs are gated. And all kitchen cupboards are open to him or are locked.
I believe in letting them have a safe place to check out their world and instill independence.
:)

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