Bi-Polar at 2?!!

Katherine - posted on 11/10/2010 ( 21 moms have responded )

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http://www.topnews.in/bipolar-diagnosis-...

http://www.my-mfi.org/node/123
These articles are similar, but the second actually has a little more info.

I posted this for a few reasons. Some are personal and some are because I think that bipolarism is becoming more prevelant and either misdiagnosed or the patients over medicated. I guess this is a spin off of my other thread.
I worry about my girls because of mental illness in my family and THIS just scares the crap right out of me.
Is it possible?
Can a chemical imbalance occur that early?
Should a child that young take drugs?
Or should they just do therapy/behavior modification?

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Johnny - posted on 11/11/2010

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I actually thought that most toddlers were bi-polar as the normal state of affairs. As they grow and mature, they learn to handle and control their emotions. 2 year olds can go from giggling, singing and playing to screaming, thrashing tantrums instantly. Most people know this is normal, clearly some idiots have decided to medicate it. Should they just do therapy/behaviour modification? Yes, for the parents.

Sharon - posted on 11/11/2010

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1. Is it possible? yeah. Not likely, not remotely likely but of course its possible.

2. Can a chemical imbalance occur that early? Yeah - but again - SOOOO not likely.

3. Should a child that young take drugs? NO, NO, AND HELL NO. Suck it up bitches. Its a TODDLER and TINY with a developing brain, control them as best as possible and wait out the storm.

4. Or should they just do therapy/behavior modification? Yes, To some extent and depending on the program.

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I don't think at 2 you can truely diagnose a mental illness in a child. The children are still finding their feet, as are their parents. I would be very concerned if it was suggested to me that my 2 year old was given anti-psychotic drugs, behaviour issues at this age should be dealt with via behaviourial psychology and behaviour coaching (for both the child and the parents).

Bonnie - posted on 11/11/2010

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Nikkole, I know what you mean. I sometimes have to fight with my parents and my inlaws because every time were sick including the kids it's always, "have you given them anything?" I hate it. I get so tired of hearing it. They don't need to take medication just because they have a cold and/or a cough. I know of people who take cold and cough medicines and it takes just about as long for them to get better compared to me when I take nothing.

Nikkole - posted on 11/11/2010

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This is soo crazy THIS is the reason why some kids are soo messed up doctors put these poor kids on medicine they DONT need ! They put my husband on anti depressants and he quit taking them because they made him into another person! My mom takes them and it does nothing! My family is all about taking medicine for some reason me and my husband ARE NOT i dont even give my kids medicine unless they absolutely need it!

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Amanda - posted on 11/11/2010

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I honestly don't see how you could diagnose a 2 yr old with a diagnosis so difficult that drs have trouble diagnosing adults?! I mean come on! I would never even think that my 2 yr old would even be capable of having such a thing that young?! Wow is all I have to say and NO I would NEVER put my child on drugs like that! Mental illness runs in my family yet we weren't doped up as kids! Let kids be kids and if behaviors continue into school agers THAN look into it...but seriously this is stupid!!! Sooo stupid!!

Kayle - posted on 11/11/2010

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I've vowed to my self that I will not medicate my child(ren) for a mental illness of this sort unless it's last resort. Because I think every kid thinks that life is not fair and may get down in the dumps so to say when they don't get there way. I think meds should always be a last resort in any situation. Unless they are going to hurt themselves or someone else therapy is more needed. Let them try to work there problems out before automatically medicating them. Some of the meds out there make you feel like a zombie and if anything make you feel worse.

Nikkole - posted on 11/11/2010

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@Bonnie Del Prete yea i never take anything when i have a cold or sinus issues just chicken noodle soup lol! My mom has sleeping issues and cant stay asleep but she will take like 6pms every night and she takes 260mg of lexapro and something else everyday!!! i think its crazy i didn't even take my oxicodons after my c section lol! some people i think just loves medicine!

JuLeah - posted on 11/11/2010

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Each family that faces this must make their own choice. BUT, were it my child, I'd run from anyone wanting to plant a label on her or give her drugs.
I was on the phone consluting with a doctor about a boy I was working with. I had never met this doctor, and he had never met the child. After an hour or so, Doc said, "It sounds like me might be Bi-Polar. I can perscribe medication for him and if it works, we will know the disgnioses is correct."
Okay, so drugs that have never been tested on children, given to a boy you have never met, based on an hour conversation with a woman you do not know .....
There are so many many reason a child can display behaviors that 'look like' Bi-polar, or borderline, or .....
I have seen kids labeled with borderline that were in fact suffering from great trauma that the family was attempting to keep hidden. The kid did have crazy behaviors, but it was in reaction to the enviornment. Once that was understood, the behaviors didn't look so crazy. The parents were willing to have the kid labled and put on drugs before they were willing to admit what was really going on in the family.
AND, some kids really do have bi-polar and that needs to be addressed and responded to.
Were it my kid, I'd become an expert on bi-polar and the medication offered. I'd become an expert on all treatment options and misdignoses ......
But, in the end, it is the choice of the family as they know the child best.

Katherine - posted on 11/11/2010

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My daughters pediatrician won't give them anything for a cold or flu symptoms, let alone freakin seroquel!!!! Or depakote.

Bonnie - posted on 11/11/2010

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How can they diagnose a child at the age of 2 for anything? Not only that, but I would never think to give a 2 year old drugs to control anything. They have made simple medications for things like colds and flus harder to give children because in the past parents have overdosed their children. I don't see why they would give medication for this.

Katherine - posted on 11/11/2010

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Did anyone read the article? The little girl was diagnosed at 2 and by 4 was taking adult doses of medication. She then ended up dead of pneumonia and possible "overdose."

Amber-Dawn - posted on 11/11/2010

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I think Doctors, Psychologists, Councilors, and whatnot are all far to quick to jump on the "Mental-Illness-Train". It seems everybody now a days is on medication for one thing or another. They diagnose people at younger and younger ages, and are very quick to prescribe. My one year old throws tantrums whenever she doesn't get her way. (I'm trying to teach her not to) Does that make her bi-polar? I don't think so, I think she's being a normal kid.

Or my 13 year old sister gets depressed sometimes, because of school and what have you. Does that mean she suffers from depression and should take pills for it? No. It means that she's 13 and moody.

Doctors etc. need to start actually caring for patients again, instead of just handing them a prescription and saying "There yeah go, now leave me the hell alone."

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I think two year olds are naturally "coo coo crazy" anyhow so how would they be able to distinguish between what's bi-polar and what's just a normal two year old mood swing tantrum?

Jessica - posted on 11/11/2010

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I don't think you can accurately diagnose a 2 year old. They still have so much going on developmentally. I used to work in a psychiatric hospital and sometimes worked on the kids floor. they had kids there as young as 2 and 3 and everyone thought it was ridiculous. A psych hospital is no place for a 2 year old! What they needed were good parents. And anti psychotics are nasty stuff, no way I'd give that to such a young child...

Ez - posted on 11/11/2010

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Mental illness most certainly exists in children, but I would be extremely wary of anyone wanting to diagnose a 2yo, let alone put them on anti-psychotics. Holy Jebus.

Kate CP - posted on 11/10/2010

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A child that young is still going through hormonal developments and will continue to do so until their early twenties. Medication for children is, to me, very risky and a big no-no in most cases.

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