Brother kills his brother

Sharon - posted on 11/01/2009 ( 8 moms have responded )




911 Call In Teen's Stabbing Released

Teen Charged With Killing Brother

POSTED: Thursday, October 29, 2009

UPDATED: 10:40 am EDT October 30, 2009

William Gorzynski and Matthew Gorzynski

CORAL SPRINGS, Fla. -- Police on Thursday released a 911 call made by a 15-year-old boy now accused of stabbing his 14-year-old brother to death.

William Gorzynski, 15, faces a charge of second-degree murder in the death of his younger brother, Matthew, who was killed in the family's Coral Springs home Monday afternoon.

Police said the two boys were fighting after William Gorzynski turned down the volume on his brother's computer.

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William Gorzynski's attorney said William grabbed the knife to scare Matthew, who was bigger, stronger and was beating him in the corner of the kitchen.

In the 911 call released Thursday, William Gorzynski can be heard asking an operator for help.

911 operator: "I want you to stay on the phone with me, OK?"

William Gorzynski: "He's lying in the bedroom. Please!"

Operator: "OK, listen. I have help coming to you, OK?"

Gorzynski: "I want to help him. Can I please just go help him?"

Operator: "Do you have a phone where I can talk to you also?"

Gorzynski: "In my room."

According to the arrest report, William Gorzynski told police officers it was an accident. They found Matthew Gorzynski lying in a pool of blood in a bedroom, where the dispatcher had instructed William Gorzynski to use a towel to try to stop the bleeding.

Operator: "Put that on top."

Gorzynski: "All right."

Operator: "Can he talk to you?"

Gorzynski: "No."

Operator: "Is his chest going up and down?"

Gorzynski: "He's breathing, but barely."

Operator: "OK, OK. They're almost there. Bear with me, OK?"

Matthew Gorzynski was later pronounced dead. William Gorzynski's attorney said the single stab wound pierced his heart.

An attorney for William Gorzynski claims the teen stabbed his brother in self-defense.

William Gorzynski remains in a juvenile detention center as prosecutors decide whether to charge him as an adult.

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•October 28, 2009: Teen's Attorney Claims Self-Defense

•October 28, 2009: Boy 15, Accused Of Killing Brother, 14

•October 28, 2009: Friends, City Leaders React To Stabbing

Teens' Father: 'They Loved Each Other'

Father Of Teens In Fatal Stabbing Speaks Out

POSTED: Friday, October 30, 2009

UPDATED: 5:18 pm EDT October 30, 2009

William Gorzynski and Matthew Gorzynski

CORAL SPRINGS, Fla. -- A heartbroken father spoke out for the first time Friday about the death of his 14-year-old son, who police said was stabbed to death by his 15-year-old brother.

Thomas Gorzynski is grieving for his two sons: 14-year-old Matthew, who is dead, and 15-year-old William, who is in jail, accused of second-degree murder.

"I am in an unimaginable amount of pain. I know that neither one of my kids are capable of anything; they would never hurt each other. I know it was a terrible accident," Thomas Gorzynski said.

Thomas Gorzynski was at work that fateful Monday afternoon when police said his two sons got into a fight. Investigators said William Gorzynski stabbed his brother Matthew in the chest with a kitchen knife. Matthew later died.

"The 911 tapes were released," Thomas Gorzynski said. "I don't listen to anything. I don't watch any news. I don't want to hear any of it."

With his mother and his sister at his side, the distraught father said his son, William, is in denial and does not believe his brother is dead.

"They loved each other. All their friends loved them. They hung out all the time. They were absolute best friends," Thomas Gorzynski said. "This is going to absolutely kill William when he does realize that he won't be with his brother again."

William Gorzynski's attorney said it is a case of self-defense, that William grabbed the knife to scare his bigger, stronger brother, who was hitting him.

“Matthew is not at fault, either. I mean, I don’t want anyone to think that Matthew is some kind of animal and it required William to do this. This was a horrible, horrible accident," Thomas Gorzynski said.

A hearing set for Wednesday has been canceled so the state can reconsider the second-degree murder charge against William.

“We have gotten so much feedback from the kids' friends, and all of them know them and know that he couldn’t do anything like that to his brother -- not intentionally. This is just a nightmare," said Shirley Gorzynski, the boys' grandmother.

“I want him to come home to the people that he loves, and I want him to get help to get over this terrible thing that he has done. I am sure the way I am feeling pales in comparison to the way he is feeling right now," Thomas Gorzynski said. "He is so alone where he is at.”

The funeral for Mathew Gorzynski will be held Monday from 4 p.m. to 9 p.m. at the Kraeer Funeral Home at 1655 University Drive.


?? - posted on 11/03/2009




This is just so sad. For that whole family. I don't think there should be criminal charges pressed against that boy, from what I can read here anyways. I don't know any further details, but I highly doubt he did it with criminal intent to kill his brother. The boy needs therapy, help, counselling not punishment. I think it would be beneficial to the whole family to get counselling.

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Sara - posted on 11/02/2009




Sounds like a total accident, how sad. Kids do impulsive things without thinking them through...that kids is going to be f-ed up for the rest of his life now, even if he doesn't go to prison, just knowing that he killed his own brother. I say it was an accident. He should be evaluated by a mental health professional to understand if he knew what he was doing and the consequences of his actions. I'm leaning towards him not being tried as an adult and being charged with a lesser crime.

Lindsay - posted on 11/02/2009




I agree with Esther that he's already gotten the worst punishment possible. I am absolutely thinking this was an aweful accident that resulted in his brother's death. I cannot imagine what he's going through right now but it must be multiplied since he's now forced to deal with this alone in custody. He needs to be released and back home with his family so they can deal with this how they see fit and get through it together.

And I'm pretty sure that having to deal with getting his charges dropped while planning a funeral for his other son is the last thing his father needs.

Esther - posted on 11/02/2009




Quoting Jodi:

Should William Gorzynski be punished? Absolutely, what he did and the way he reacted was wrong. There should be some level of punishment.

I think he got the worst possible punishment for his actions already. He will have to live the rest of his life knowing he killed his brother. He will have to live with knowing he is responsible for the pain and loss he and his entire family are suffering and will suffer forever. I cannot imagine what that must be like. So I don't think any additional punishment is necessary at all. I just hope he will be able to somehow heal and still have a good life after all this. It cannot be an easy thing to do. My guess is he would happily sit in prison for 10 years if it meant getting his brother back. This is a life sentence.

Jodi - posted on 11/01/2009




Sharon, I actually agree with you that a 14 year old could have done something really stupid by accident. My son is 12, my step-son 10, and I have seen both of them do some really stupid and dangerous things, and when I've gone off at them about it, their response is pretty much "oh, I didn't think of it that way". They really don't think. It is a fact that during puberty, while the testosterone is having that big boost, they honestly are vague and don't think about things before they act. I've seen my son pretend to do a "karate chop" at his little sister and accidentally kick her in the head. Did he get punished? You bet!! But it really was an accident because he didn't MEAN to hurt her, he was just not thinking.

Should William Gorzynski be punished? Absolutely, what he did and the way he reacted was wrong. There should be some level of punishment. Should it be considered murder? I don't think so. I feel sorry for this boy, I feel sorry for the father, and I feel bad for the brother who died because of this. I don't believe there was anything premeditated.

I'll be honest, I remember as a young teen (can't remember my age, possibly 12 or 13) being so angry at my brother that I whacked him on the head with a metal rake, prongs down. I put a hole in his head and he needed stitches. My brother used to deliberately give me a hard time, and this particular day, he teased me until I snapped. As teens, we have very little self control - that is a learned skill. I could have killed that brother, and you have no idea how bad I feel about that NOW!! But at the time, it never actually occurred to me. It wasn't until I was an adult that I realised the potential implications of what I had done.

Debbie - posted on 11/01/2009




I don't think he done it on purpose. He may have meant to hurt him but not kill him. Like you said they act then think. I could totally see my boys doing something like that, they do it now (kinda) even though they are 9 and 4, the 4 year old will get cranky and throw something at the older one.

I feel for the family, the pain of losing someone is hard enough without the one that done it, being apart of that family. Be it accidental or not, still have to love the other son.

Sharon - posted on 11/01/2009




This story just really tears me up. My oldest is 14. Absolutely prone to doing things first, thinking later. Do I think he could stab one of his siblings? NO. Do I think he could be stupid and reenacting a ninja move in the kitchen spinning with one of large butcher knives in hand - yes. Do I think another child could turn the corner and walk into the blade - yes. Do I think I need to be home ALL TIME when they are to prevent this - YES.

They're kids. In the instant they don't connect A to B all the time.

If what everyone says is true, I'm sure the older boy had no idea how much he was hurting his younger brother. Probably not thinking at all. The younger boy - for certain didn't mean to murder his brother - the beating was in the kitchen - he grabbed something he knew would hurt him. A tool to make things equal.

My heart breaks for the father. I'm sure he didn't have a choice but to leave two boys home alone. My brother & I were home alone for a couple hours every day after school starting from about 10 up. We had some VICIOUS fights. I will never leave my kids home alone. My mother didn't really have any idea - my dad didn't either.

Anyway - what do you guys think?

Did this kid murder his brother on purpose? Did he understand the long term consqeuence? (death) Should he be charged with murder or a lesser charge equaling a death by misadventure?

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