California parents ask man to beat their child

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IRVINE, Calif. (AP) — An Irvine couple who suspected their 15-year-old son of smoking turned to a man believed to be relied on in their church to violently discipline children, authorities said.

The parents asked Paul Kim, 39, to discipline their son after finding a lighter in his possession, dropping the boy off at Kim's Chino Hills home with permission for the beating, San Bernardino County sheriff's spokesperson Cindy Bachmann said Saturday.

Kim hit the child with a metal pole about a dozen times, causing severe bruising on his legs, according to Bachmann. The pole was about an inch in diameter, investigators said.

An adult at the boy's school saw the bruises and called Irvine police, who in turn informed San Bernardino County officials, she said.

Kim was arrested Tuesday at his home and released Thursday after posting bail. He faces a felony charge of willful cruelty to a child. No court date has been set, according to jail records.

The San Bernardino County District Attorney's office was reviewing the sheriff's department report and will decide whether to charge the teen's father, Bachman said. It wasn't immediately known whether the father was present at the time of the beating.

The names of the boy and his parents were not released.

Investigators believe Kim has been used in this way by other families in the congregation, and asked for victims and witnesses to come forward.

The name of the church was not released but Bachman said it was located in La Habra.

It wasn't immediately known whether Kim had hired an attorney. A message left at a Chino Hills listing with his name was not returned Saturday.


Thoughts? Do you think one of the parents should be charged with anything? Both of them?

Personally, I'm absolutely horrified and I think they should "throw the book" at both parents. I just hope that poor boy has some other family he can rely on to help him... It's not like they even caught their son smoking - they just found a ligther on him! WTF?! I don't smoke (and I never will) and I still carry a lighter with me because you never know when you might need one... I am so angry with these parent right now...


Kate CP - posted on 12/11/2011




Tina: Yea, I agree with the whole lighter thing. We don't smoke either and we have lighters for lighting candles or incense or whatever.

If my daughter came home one day and I found a lighter in her pocket I wouldn't be worried that she's smoking, necessarily...I'd be worried that she's starting fires.

Kate CP - posted on 12/10/2011




Kim was the weapon that the parents used against their child. Yes, they should be charged with assault or child abuse. This is horrific.


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Corinne - posted on 12/18/2011




OMG, those parents need locking up and the key chucking away! Wow, just wow, my head hurts too much.

Jessie - posted on 12/18/2011




Well, I am guessing after getting beat like that, the poor kid needed a cigarette.

Jennifer - posted on 12/16/2011




Charge the parents, and AT LEAST put the church's identity out there! My God!! Beat him with a pipe?? If someone did that to my kid, I'd be in jail for murder! What the hell is wrong with people!

Sylvia - posted on 12/16/2011




Actually yes, Emma, we do to. Neither of us has ever smoked, but we have a lighter for lighting candles.

And Tracey, I know, that is so wrong on so many levels!

Tracey - posted on 12/16/2011




I'm uncomfortable that there is a go to guy for disciplining other peoples' children.

♥♪Megan♫♥ - posted on 12/11/2011




Haven't these parents heard of youtube and all those commercials in the States that tell you what happens when you smoke? That's what you do to your kids when you think they were smoking. You scare the shit out of them with images of damaged lungs, liver and other organs. You don't get someone to beat the shit out of them because you found a lighter.

And yes you do ask first

Stifler's - posted on 12/11/2011




I agree the lighter thing is stupid. Neither of us smoke and we have a cigarette lighter in our house.

Sylvia - posted on 12/11/2011




In fact, it's exactly like an abusive husband beating his wife up because he saw her talking to some other man and assumed she was flirting or worse.

Which I think most people would agree is not the most healthy relationship dynamic :P

Sylvia - posted on 12/11/2011




That's the other thing I was thinking -- what happened to innocent until proven guilty? They didn't know he'd been smoking, they only suspected it! I mean, not that commissioning some dude to beat the cr@p out of him would have been OK in any case, but beating the cr@p out of somebody because you suspect he did something seems even more totally OTT.

Merry - posted on 12/11/2011





The parents need to be charged and the child should be removed from their care.
Poor boy! My husband has never puffed a single cigarette but he loves lighters! We use them for lighting candles or fires, he has tons of them!
Sick sick parents.

Becky - posted on 12/11/2011




Damn right the parents should be charged! This wasn't a random assault, it was one requested by the parents! I think getting someone else to beat your child may be even sicker than beating them yourself!

Sylvia - posted on 12/11/2011





Yes, absolutely the parents should be charged. Aggravated assault sounds about right. The guy they asked to do the beating should be charged, too, but as he wouldn't have committed this specific assault had the boy's parents not commissioned him to do so, I don't see how any prosecutor could charge him without charging them as well.

I hope the boy has other, less horrifying relatives that he can turn to, because if I were him I sure wouldn't want to go home :(

Tina - posted on 12/11/2011




Yes they should be charged. A parent is suppose to protect their child. If they were so worried about him smoking there's certainly alot of better ways to deal with it then that. There is some seriously twisted people. Punishing a crime with a crime. What bs. These people shouldn't be parents. They're lucky they didn't end up killing the kid. We have lighters around the house I don't smoke my partners given up smoking they're just there for emergencies like a blackout. It's assault and these people are accessories. Words can't express how much people like this pee me off.

Denikka - posted on 12/11/2011




Absolutely should be charged. It falls on you if you hire a hit man to kill someone. So how is this any different?? Sick people. . .

Jodi - posted on 12/10/2011




What has happened here is a crime. Whether he was guilty of smoking or not is irrelevant. Kim committed the crime, but the parents were an accessory and knowingly allowed it to occur, so yes, they should all be charged with involvement in this incident. I really hope other victims come forward and expose this man for what he is. I also have misgivings about the involvement of the church :\ Sounds very much like this kind of thing is encouraged within the congregation, and the church should also be held responsible for that.

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