Calling All Canadians! Our Right To Choose Is Being Threatened!

Firebird - posted on 04/25/2012 ( 15 moms have responded )

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Stephen Harper said he would not re-open the debate on a woman’s right to choose.

But 24 hours from now, he’ll allow Conservative MP Stephen Woodworth to put forward a motion in the House of Commons which clearly opens the possibility of re-criminalizing abortion.

It’s up to you to make sure Canadian women and men know about it.

In 1988 the debate was settled when the Supreme Court ruled: “The decision whether or not to terminate a pregnancy is essentially a moral decision and in a free and democratic society, the conscience of the individual must be paramount to that of the state.”

http://petition.liberal.ca/abortion-deba...

They did a good job of keeping this quiet, we've got less than 24 hours to stand up for our reproductive rights. I truly believed that this would not happen here. It's time to show the MEN in politics WHY it does not happen here!

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Johnny - posted on 04/26/2012

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This will never go anywhere....unless we sit back silently and let it. So regardless of how little traction we think it has, we can not stop fighting back until it gets dropped and we are allowed to live our lives as we choose. Thanks for posting this Joanne.

Firebird - posted on 04/26/2012

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Good news ladies! It's just one whack job that pays too much attention to U.S. politics.

"Conservative MP Stephen Woodworth's motion proposing that a parliamentary committee study the legal definition of when life begins got zero support from MPs who debated it Thursday.

Even a senior member of his own party, the Conservative whip Gordon O'Connor, said despite Woodworth's claims, the motion is intended to lead to a change in Canada's abortion laws and that it should be rejected."

"In my case, I will be voting against the motion," Harper said.

Jenni - posted on 04/26/2012

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Canada is one of the very few countries that has absolutely no criminal restrictions on abortion. It is entirely a decision between patient and physician. There is no 'cut off' for late term abortions. Although, our cases of late term abortions after 22 weeks is virtually the same as countries with a restriction. As it stands a fetus is not considered a human life (with rights) until it is born. Canada is currently is the poster child for showing you don't need criminal laws concerning abortions. As all our stats on abortions are at par with other countries who have criminal laws.



I think that's what the MP is concerned with, late term abortion. Just my opinion. But it's really unnecessary to redefine it as most cases of late term abortions are only done for serious medical complications. Not because the woman just upped and changed her mind on the pregnancy. You'd be hard pressed to find any physician who would preform one for any other reason.



It is a slippery slope once we open that door. In my opinion completely unnecessary and I think we've already proved that.

Firebird - posted on 04/26/2012

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You're right Meme, this isn't really going to happen, it's political suicide every time this debate gets opened. And for good reason... Canadian women sure get pissed off when our rights are threatened. lol

MeMe - Raises Her Hand (-_-) (Mommy Of A Toddler And Teen) - posted on 04/26/2012

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Ah, Jen. It isn't going to happen. It has already been tried. It is just one MP that wants to have a voice. Very few of the other 300+ are even close to willing to make any changes. It's just a matter of if one MP wants to debate, then the PM must allow.

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♥♪Megan♫♥ - posted on 04/27/2012

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I guess Canada isn't America jr after all. No matter how many arrogant Americans claim that they're the ones who keep Canada safe. And there are a lot of those ass hats around.

Lady Heather - posted on 04/26/2012

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Oh, by no means do I think we should ignore it. We still need to be vocal in our opposition, but don't worry. It's in the bag for the pro-choice camp.

Lady Heather - posted on 04/26/2012

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I agree that it won't happen. I think most MPs are well aware of what the majority want in this regard. This is still effing disturbing but it's going to happen from time to time.

♥♪Megan♫♥ - posted on 04/26/2012

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I have temporary residency. I put in for my permanent resident status back in January, but until that goes through I don't have my SIN or anything to prove I am living in Canada. I did file taxes with my husband and have a temporary tax number because of talking with my MP, my MLA and someone competent at the BC tax office in Surrey. But I only have rights as an American right now.

Mrs. - posted on 04/26/2012

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Megan, unless you have your actual citizenship, you cannot vote. I've had a driver's license and a SIN card for many years - as well as my PR Card and I can not vote in Canada. PRs have to pay taxes and have all the rights of a Canadian citizen....except voting.

♥♪Megan♫♥ - posted on 04/26/2012

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I can't vote up here yet. It's some silly government thing which also prevents me from getting a provincial driver's license and having a real SIN number. Lee can vote though and if he was willing to stand in a long assed line last year for the referendum I'm sure he'd get mad at the new ideas.

However I can't really see this happening in Canada since they aren't nearly as nutty as their fellow conservatives back in the states. No matter how much Harper wishes he could be more like Bush and Romney and privatise health care.

Isobel - posted on 04/26/2012

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It doesn't surprise me...Harper's an oil man...he loved Bush and hates Obama. He's always been one of them

MeMe - Raises Her Hand (-_-) (Mommy Of A Toddler And Teen) - posted on 04/26/2012

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It's been tried ample times. He isn't going to have any easier of a time. It's not going to happen.



However, I would like to say this about good ol' Harper (IDIOT! for sooo many reasons), when he was running he swore he believed in the right to choose. He promised he would stand behind this right and would never try to change it. Hmmmm, what an asswipe.



I am for setting guidelines around abortion rights, I think it should only be allowed within the first 12 weeks, after that it must be a serious medical issue for the mother or baby.



I am more pissed that he is such a buttfuck and lies to the citizens he is supposed to be working for.



It isn't the first time he has given his word and drastically went in the other direction. I cannot wait to vote this asshole out!



ETA:

One thing I would like to see here in Canada though, is abortion no longer being funded by the Government. If a person wants an abortion they should have to pay for it. The only time it should be covered by our UHC system is when there is a life or death situation for the mother/baby. Where I do not believe in abortion (even though I have to give some leniency for the first 12 weeks for rape victims, as I would never want them to be forced to carry the child or go through a terrible process of proving they were raped), I do not want to be paying for them either with my tax money.



I am sure many here will have an issue with my opinion but it is my opinion and I stand by it. No one pays for a persons Cancer meds, regardless of why they got it (i.e. smoking). Why should I pay for someones abortion?

Firebird - posted on 04/25/2012

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Now bear in mind that this debate isn't trying to make abortion illegal per say AT THIS TIME, but it will essentially attempt to re-define when life legally 'begins'. And THAT will re-open the abortion debate, you can be sure! We all know where this is heading! We can never stop fighting for the rights that we've won!

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