Cop Pepper spays a baby squirrel!

♏*PHOENIX*♏ - posted on 04/10/2011 ( 48 moms have responded )

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This is sooooo wrong, on so many levels, and these kids and the damn officer are going over bored, you would think it was a huge lion, and not some little squirrel!
This is unnecessary, it is cruel!!!!

What do you think, is it wrong, or do you feel like “Eh, it’s a squirrel…get over it!

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Dana - posted on 04/11/2011

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Okay I have to totally LMFAO @ the suggestion that it might have rabies and that it was running after him. It was not running, that's how they walk. It looks like a chipmunk, NOT a squirrel. Sometimes they're curious, big deal. Has anyone actually seen an animal that has rabies, they don't act that way.



There are tons of chipmunks and squirrels who live in very populated areas, they're used to people and meander around them quite often.

To me it just seems like a bored cop who probably sprays bugs with spray to watch them die, not because they're a threat. He's an asshole.

Rosie - posted on 04/10/2011

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i think he went overboard. it is a squirrel for goodness sake! squirrels aren't likely to have rabies, and many squirrels/chipmunks things like that go up to people where i am in areas where people feed them. highly doubtful it had rabies.

Iridescent - posted on 04/10/2011

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I can't blame him for spraying it. It was running after him, which is a HUGE sign of rabies. There is no cure or treatment for rabies at all once infected, and people do get infected when bitten. The rabies series is no joy either. "Baby" or not, it can kill, and it was chasing after him.

Mary - posted on 04/11/2011

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I watched this and just thought - WTF?

I realize that there are huge chunks missing here from the whole story, but it seems like all of the people involved are a bunch of stupid assholes. Even if the squirrel was rabid and behaving erratically, why the hell were all these kids still outside, and why call a freaking security guard to deal with it? We are talking about a small rodent, not a large dog, or even a raccoon. Move everyone inside, and call Animal Control. This was obviously not a case of students being in imminent, life-threatening danger, where immediate action was required to save lives. The squirrel did not appear possessed or crazed - he just didn't seem fearful of the humans around him. He was sort of "dancing" with the security guard - not making an aggressive beeline for his leg.

What I saw was actually pretty typical behavior of the squirrels on my college campus. They were constantly being fed by students, and most were not in the least bit fearful of them. They weren't aggressive, but the constant feeding had mad some of them a bit more bold about seeking out a possible treat.

Ah well, it is Texas!

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Jenni - posted on 04/11/2011

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Yeah, pretty much... they should have just had everyone go inside and call animal control. Not engaged the animal. Small rural town perhaps? Didn't see anything about the location.

Desiree - posted on 04/11/2011

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For Petes Sake the poor thing is the size of his damned foot. " It may be rabbied" rubbish All had to do was step on it if it tried to bite him. What an absolute coward!!

~♥Little Miss - posted on 04/11/2011

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Amy, he is a police officer...no kid in their right mind would go grab an officer and pull him away, or try to intervene. That is a great way to get in trouble even more.

They should have brought the kids out of "harms way".

~♥Little Miss - posted on 04/11/2011

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Doesn't surprise me. Ding Dong, they need to take his pepper spray away from him, and he should still be brought in for cruelty to animals. I highly doubt a school security guard understands how painful pepper spray in the face is. I really hope he gets reported, and loses his job for this. I wouldn't want someone like this guarding my kids.

Jenni - posted on 04/11/2011

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Marina, we discovered he was a secruity guard for the school. I think that explains a lot. :/ Not saying he didn't react poorly still.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 04/11/2011

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Nope, I still think he was being cruel. He is an adult with children watching acting like a total pussy with a baby squirrel. Pepper spray is not the answer period. He should have had his wits about him, and the fact that he didn't makes me even more nervous. Police are trained to have their wits about them in dire circumstances, but he did not know how to handle a baby squirrel? Come on.

Jenni - posted on 04/11/2011

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You know who I blame for the whole situation. People who feed squirrels. It was obvious by the way the squirrel was coming towards him that it was use to being handfed. When I saw the video, it reminded me of situations I've been in where handfed squirrels were coming at me. If the squirrel was just use to living near people it still wouldn't be coming towards him. You'd probably be able to get closer to than a wild squirrel but it would have no interest in you unless it saw humans as a source of food.



Or another possibility is someone took it in and hand-raised it and then released it. Another thing I personally don't agree with unless under special circumstances. As hard as it is to leave a wild baby animal to nature. It's usually for the best. In many cases they become reliant on humans to survive and either die when they're released or become a danger to humans and pets. It can also contribute to overpopulation of a species. I am a strong believer in leaving as little impact as possible on nature.

Amy - posted on 04/11/2011

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I just think...sorry, if it was SO bad, why weren't the people stopping him then instead of just squealing "don't do it".

If it was just outside at a school...yeah....why didn't everyone just go inside? then the little thing would have nothing to do but scurry around to its home.

in today's sue happy society though, he probably felt like he had to do something.

Dana - posted on 04/11/2011

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Okay, that makes more sense that he works at the school. I thought that when I first watched the video but, then the articles I've read just said that a police officer was called in to handle the situation until animal control came in.
And I will take back saying he's an asshole and being cruel to the animal. I said that after watching the video, then after Jenn H posted saying it was a squirrel and a little more info, I googled the whole story. It really would have been helpful if this video was accompanied by a link the the full story from the get go but, I suppose I'm at fault for not doing it myself right away.

All that being said, I still think he could have handled it way better, maybe he's gotten too friendly with the kids, he needs to remember his authority.

Jenn - posted on 04/11/2011

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I totally agree. The kids should've been sent back into the school immediately! That's the first thing I thought when I saw the video. The teachers or any other adults around at the time are also at fault for not making the children go back into the building. The kids know the officer, he's a security officer at their school.

It WAS definitely handled poorly but most people do associate rodents with rabies and the officer probably hasn't ever been trained in erratic squirrel behavior at a jr or high school :) He will NEVER live this down. He most likely felt bad about his actions but now he will always be associated with pepper spraying a little squirrel!

Jenni - posted on 04/11/2011

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I don't completely disagree that he made a poor decision. I just don't agree that he was intentionally being cruel. I think it was a case of ignorance. I think if had an outright deteste for 'pests' he would have opted to stomp on it. He wasn't trying to kill it, just deter it. But yeah, it is a bit outrageous he would see an itty bitty squirrel as that big of a threat thatm he couldn't wait for animal control and just had the kids go back to class.

Dana - posted on 04/11/2011

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I guess I hold police officers to a higher standard. If they really thought it was a threat, none of those kids should have been standing there. - Right there, threat eliminated.

He could have hung back until animal control showed up instead of approaching the squirrel while little teeny boppers screamed "Officer Davis, don't pepper spray it...". The whole thing was handled badly.

Obviously these kids talked to the police officer if they knew his name, he was called in to deal with it while animal protective services showed up. That's plenty of time for the school or police officer to have the kids clear out of the area.

Jenni - posted on 04/11/2011

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I have to agree with Jenn. He probably had no idea what to do. I don't think he was purposely trying to be cruel. It isn't exactly common knowledge that it's rare for small rodents to carry rabies. I think the vast majority of people would see a rodent coming at them and at least assume there is a possibility of disease and not want to take any chances.

Jenn - posted on 04/11/2011

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I think the officer wasn't sure what to do. He was asked to intervene, obviously couldn't shoot the little thing so he pepper sprayed. Officers know what effect pepper spray has on humans because they get sprayed themselves during training. He overreacted, yes, but he was also trying to appease the school. The squirrel didn't run from people and that CAN be a sign of rabies. Can you imagine if a squirrel bit one of those kids? Parents would've been livid! I'm not sticking up for the officer but sometimes they make a bad decision (or at least one that's over the top) in trying to do what they think is right and get bashed for it. Especially when what they did goes viral.

Dana - posted on 04/11/2011

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Oops, my bad. lol Being a baby squirrel just makes it that much worse. It was excessive and the squirrel was obviously doing no harm.

Jenn - posted on 04/11/2011

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And that was a squirrel...we don't have chipmunks in North Texas. The squirrel is okay, it was treated and released by animal control.

Jenn - posted on 04/11/2011

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What I didn't understand is WHY all those kids weren't sent right back into the school building while the officer dealt with squirrel! Rabid or not, the kids had no business being outside while the officer was handling the situation.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 04/11/2011

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Everyone sounded pretty damned upset with him for doing his "job". You have no idea how many people or what age ranges....and if this squirrel was indeed rabid, they would need to get all those people out of there asap...rabies is not rectified with pepper spray. The guy IMO was abusing his pepper spray and being a jerky bully.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 04/11/2011

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Didn't look like he was trying to protect anyone, and whoever was filming was begging him to NOT do it. Sounded like teenagers or adults, not young kids.

Iris - posted on 04/11/2011

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But even though rabies or other diseases are rare. Do you take the chance when there are 10-20 or more kids around and your priority is to protect those kids?

~♥Little Miss - posted on 04/11/2011

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Also, if he was afraid it was rabid, the humane thing would have been to shoot and kill it, not torture it with pepper spray. Squirrels are curious creatures, and he was not "chasing" the cop...he was doing his squirrel thing.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 04/11/2011

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Chipmunks don't have tails like this.....and rabies is very rare. This was an asshole thing to do, and I hope his badge gets reported for cruelty to animals.

I have taken care of animals that have been pepper sprayed, and in doing so got it on my own skin. It burns, the fumes make your nose run, and burns your eyes. It is terrible, and I think this cops was a fucking asshole for doing this to a 2lb animal.

Jenni - posted on 04/11/2011

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I understand him not wanting to take a chance with rabies. I also know of many areas where squirrels a fed and they become a nuisance. When I was in Florida at a park they had the most 'tame' red squirrels I've ever seen. Those little beggers scared the crap out of me. I've seen 'tame' squirrels before from people feeding them but these ones were literally trying to climb all over you to find food. I was terrified of them because they are NOT tame they are still wild animals and can bite.



It's really sad when people feed wild animals. It really makes me angry. Leave them alone and watch them from a distance. My family are big time into camping and I've seen the devastation feeding animals have had on parks. How many animals have to be euthanized because stupid people want to feed them and they become a danger to humans. They also multiply more quickly when given a free meal and populations become overrun. Then they have to have a cull.

Amy - posted on 04/11/2011

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a baby squirrel - the ones around here - would fit in my hand. 2/3 inches. Should google it, but.... They don't leave the nest when babies. But...more like youth. I still think it looks to big to tell. To me still looks like a full grown chipmunk.

Not that I don't care about animals, but I just think the care of human children far surpasses my time spent on justice of a squirrel/chipmunk who could have diseases and be after my kids.


and if it IS a red jimmy/ chipmunk. No remorse here. those things are so so destructive. Call them pests and rodents for a reason. damage siding, chew into your attic....just little snots.
Note though, that it must not have affected the squirrel too much, it kept coming at them anyway. ?? It's a skewed video and difficult to really see. I can't make a judgement on anything. Still not enough info for me. The "kids" sounded like teens though to me this morning. Teens usually care more about "cute" than "disease".

April - posted on 04/10/2011

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I've heard squirrels are quite dangerous. Some have been known to attack people without warning, i've even heard of squirrels jumping into baby prams with babies in them, to the point where the people used the prams as bait (w/o the babies of course) to catch the squirrels. They even attack toddlers. They may look cute but their quite dangerous, so i've read. I think the policeman was just making sure no one would get hurt.

♏*PHOENIX*♏ - posted on 04/10/2011

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Yeah you’re right about how fast they are, but it doesn’t specify how fast a baby squirrel is, it seems that fact if for the adult squirrels.

♏*PHOENIX*♏ - posted on 04/10/2011

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Amy was that a baby squirrel, or a full grown one...or does it not matter?

Jenn - posted on 04/10/2011

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I have a little pink can of pepper spray on my key chain. I keep it for protection if i am walking late at night by myself or if i am with my kids and some dog comes at us trying to bite us. Honestly, at first i would have just tried to get away from it, but honestly those things are FAST. And they are sketchy, darting all over the place, i always feel like they are going to like lunge at my throat or something. I can tell you right now if my kids would have been with me aged 4 and 18mths and it wouldnt fuck off i would have juiced it too..You dont know what that thing has or what its gonna do...I wouldn't just leave it there though i would notify the animal patrol about it in the area so they could try to find it...

Amy - posted on 04/10/2011

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ps- just googled and squirrel can go 8 to 10 mph

human can go 6-11 mph. Not sure if google sites are 100% accurate..but, just to put that out there.

Amy - posted on 04/10/2011

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I didn't watch the video because my kids are asleep. But I will let you know we went to the zoo last year and there was a squirrel who was IN OUR FACE! We could not get rid of it and no, you could not out run that darn squirrel. He was chasing us like no tomorrow. We ended up throwing water or something at it. Not sure. We went running with kids and husbands were trying to keep it out of the stroller.

I think you need more information. Were people in danger? Were they constantly being harrassed by it? Were squirrels in that area carrying diseases or something? Could have had lyme disease or rabies and if there are kids around.....I don't know. Didn't kill the squirrel, just tried to stop it, right?

but again....I could not outrun a squirrel even with kids packed in a stroller and joggin pretty dang fast. It was RIGHT with us. Freaked me out. I don't feel too poorly. And, I couldn't really tell on mute what all was going on, but couldn't tell that it was pepper sprayed or that it was even a baby. Sure doesn't look like a baby squirrel to me. Must be a giant baby. Actually, tail looks off. Sure it isn't a chipmunk? anyway...

Bonnie - posted on 04/10/2011

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In a way I feel bad for the squirrel. Isn't that a form of animal abuse? I don't see why the cop couldn't just get away from it and go in a different direction.

♏*PHOENIX*♏ - posted on 04/10/2011

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I agree Amy….matter of opinion

And yes Laura, I would tell my kids and any other kids around to get back, or start going in the opposite direction….

Laura - posted on 04/10/2011

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I don't understand this, if it was a seat belt debate or something like that everyone would say my child's safety comes first. I would kick the thing across the school yard before I would let it near me or my child. If you've ever had to get the rabies shots you would never want to do it again and I would never want any child to have to go though it.

My child's safety comes first. I would never let it near a wild animal. You never know if they are safe.

Iridescent - posted on 04/10/2011

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If one of the kids had been bitten instead, his job would be on the line and potentially so would the child's life. I don't consider that hysteria, but it is a matter of opinion.

♏*PHOENIX*♏ - posted on 04/10/2011

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Well you don’t KNOW, but come on, are they not able out run a BABY squirrel??!
Like I said there is hysteria, as if it’s a lion, or a dog….

Iridescent - posted on 04/10/2011

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That is possible, but how can you KNOW that's the case? You can't, and the first concern is the children since it is a school. Someone could be fatally injured in seconds.

♏*PHOENIX*♏ - posted on 04/10/2011

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Some squirrels are fed by people, and maybe this was one of them, that could ALSO could be why it wasn’t afraid of the people.

I have a good friend who feeds the squirrels in her back yard often, then know to come to her house to get food………

Iridescent - posted on 04/10/2011

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http://kidshealth.org/parent/infections/...
"Skunks and foxes also can be infected with rabies, and a few cases have been reported in wolves, coyotes, bobcats, and ferrets. Small rodents such as hamsters, squirrels, chipmunks, mice, and rabbits are very rarely infected with the virus.

Because of widespread vaccination programs in the United States, transmission from dogs to people is very rare. Outside the United States, exposure to rabid dogs is the most common cause of transmission to humans.

An infected animal has the rabies virus in its saliva and can transmit it to a person through biting. In rarer cases, an animal can spread the virus when its saliva comes in contact with a person's mucous membranes (moist skin surfaces, like the mouth or inner eyelids) or broken skin such as a cut, scratch, bruise, or open wound.

After a bite, the rabies virus can spread into surrounding muscle, then travel up nearby nerves to the brain. Once the virus reaches the brain, the infection is fatal in almost all cases."

http://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/rabie...
"Signs in animals

Rabid animals-those infected with rabies-may display noticeable signs or behavioral changes. An animal that has bitten someone and is or was acting strangely may be rabid.

It is important to observe the animal when possible in order to provide proper and timely preventive treatment to any person who may have been exposed. An animal that shows any of the following signs may have rabies:

* No fear of humans shown by a wild animal
* Shyness in a usually friendly pet
* Restlessness, excitability, aggression, or sudden mood changes
* Excessive drooling
* An animal that is normally active at night (such as bats, raccoons, and skunks) being active during the day
* Eating substances not normally eaten (pica)
* Paralysis, which is sometimes the only sign"

This "baby squirrel" was certainly displaying signs. Squirrels run away from people, not at them.

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