Creative History or reconstruction? Yeah, it's about Palin

Barb - posted on 06/05/2011 ( 21 moms have responded )

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Normally i wouldn't care anymore about Sarah Palin than i do that snooki girl, but what is happening here is disturbing to say the least.

Here is the time line.. Palin is visiting a city that Paul Revere rode through to warn certain trusted patriots that the British were marching from Boston to Lexington. She is asked a question about the historic event and says this:



Later, she is told she is wrong by her own employers about what she said and she responds with defending her answer:



Now this is the scary part to me. Palin followers are going onto Wikipedia and trying to rewrite history based on what this woman said!!!

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/...

What do you think about all this? Especially the rewriting history erroneously.

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Barb - posted on 06/06/2011

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Wow Laura, that is brilliant if that was the intention. Certainly got her back in the limelight after laying low from the Gabrielle Gifford's shooting.

She embarrasses me as a representative of a woman, and especially a woman politician.

There is a difference between a bias or opinion and an outright lie. There are facts that are documented as history. Facts about guns not being shot off, facts about bells not being rang.. facts that he was trying to avoid the British so they wouldn't kill him.

Just silly little facts, not bias or opinions. I know i've said this before but it kinda fits here.

The difference between opinions and facts:
The glass is half full and the glass is half empty, both are true opinions. But the fact is the 8 oz glass contains 4 oz of liquid.

JL - posted on 06/06/2011

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There is always biases in history. Even as the reader you place your on biases on it. To say something is free of bias is to fool yourself. That is one of the lessons historians learn. Every thing is always looked at from a different angle that is why you will get many different historical theories on the same subject but to say something happened for a reason where there is no source to back that up and there are hundreds to back up an opposing idea is well......it's argumentative and lazy when your claiming it to be absolutely correct, When you say to the public that your assumption is right. Then prove it to me with some sources please. I do find the American public at fault to a degree for lack of research when it comes to everything not just history. Very few people check their sources or try to read past the ones shoved in their faces. Complacency is a disease in America as well ignorance. Our educational system is not doing any good either. As a former military brat and now military wife I have seen first hand the disparities in our educational system. As someone who taught at the college level I have seen too many high school students come in needing and requiring refresher courses on the basics because they are lacking the simple understanding of when America became a nation and who the first president was and how to write a simple essay. A third of America's college freshman students fail on the basics in English, Math, Science and History. But that is another subject in itself.

Felicia - posted on 06/05/2011

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As a history teacher, I can't help but laugh and cringe at the same time. Why, oh why does anyone pay her any attention. This trumps her comment about supporting our North Korean allies. As for wikipedia, this is why it could not be a completely trusted source.

Mrs. - posted on 06/06/2011

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I agree with you, Joy, somewhat.

I grew up in the states and learned my history there just like any American student. I then moved to Canada in high school. Learning history in a different country is a whole other ball game. The fact is, there are different takes on things depending on where you live.

I understand that historians have been "scouring through the primary sources left by those who were not the victors, by the average citizen, by the masses, women, minorities, lower classes, and the once unheard. It's sad that Americans chose not to look beyond what the text books teach them and delve deeper into history but it doesn't surprise me.", but I don't know if it is the fault of the American public for not looking deep enough. No matter what you do, there will always be a slant. You will never know the whole truth, unless you were there (and even then you are only seeing it through your eyes).

So, while I agree that Palin is disgusting and politicians tend to know dick about history...I'm not sure the general American public is at fault for not digging deep enough to get a completely unbiased source. I'm not sure there is one.

Barb - posted on 06/06/2011

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JuLeah, there isn't a scaryashell button to push.

I totally understand that history is written by the victor and that there are two sides to every story. (although now i want to read a southern account of the civil war, not just watch Gone with the Wind)

But history is not rewritten by someone who wasn't there, didn't live in those times and just made up a story about it to get her cliched statements out there; [warning]"the British that they weren’t going to be taking away our arms" A barely described cliche` about gun control and the government.

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Mrs. - posted on 06/06/2011

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"Complacency is a disease in America as well ignorance."

Well, your version of the American people at this time has a a definate slant. ;)

Listen, my brother is a teacher and I hear the same shit from him. I don't doubt that there is a lot of complacency and ignorance in the American school system on all sides. I just think it is a favourite past time to bash the American young people for being lazy and stupid...when there are plenty of people around the world who are just as stupid/lazy. If it is a disease, I suppose all of humanity has it, not just high school or college age students in the United States. But that is a whole other subject, as you say...

As far as history goes, I would have never really understood the difference between learning about say, WWII, in Canada than in the states unless I'd done it. Not everyone can have that experience just living in one country that believes the war began at this time and these things happened unless they have done it. Sure, you could read books and research beyond what you might get at school, but actually living in a different culture and seeing it through its citizen's eyes is a whole other ball game. Not everyone has the luck or opportunity to do this. Is this laziness and ignorance? I don't think so. It is just having limited resources and access to experiences that not everyone gets...that's a bit closer to the mark for me.

Am I saying that you cannot understand history unless you travel? No. I'm just using that as an example as to why it is not just laziness that make a person unaware, sometimes it is just lack of access and opportunity which is beyond their control.

Isobel - posted on 06/06/2011

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anybody who can get through a guided tour of Boston and come out not knowing what Paul Revere did...just WOW! I've been to the North Church...and there's no WAY that it's possible. Now...you wanna say that she KNOWINGLY changed what he did to be able to shove a little GOP gun-slingin propaganda in there? That sounds a little more reasonable.

Man oh man though, her marketing team is FREAKIN INCREDIBLE!

JL - posted on 06/06/2011

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As a professional Historian I find this completely and absolutely disgusting. It's bad enough that our children fail miserably when it comes to understanding American History and American politics. They take their cue from Disney and mouth pieces on TV. History is not all creative history. No one created the fact that American won the American Revolution, that slavery was not ended until a Civil War erupted, that women in the masses did not gain voting rights until 1920. History is not always written by the victor. Historians have done excellent jobs since the 1960s scouring through the primary sources left by those who were not the victors, by the average citizen, by the masses, women, minorities, lower classes, and the once unheard. It's sad that Americans chose not to look beyond what the text books teach them and delve deeper into history but it doesn't surprise me. I have had college students ask me if we won the American Revolution.

Teresa - posted on 06/06/2011

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She was really full of crap. I like Palin but yeah...she needs to brush up. What a mockery of American History that blunder was.

Desiree - posted on 06/06/2011

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And she is different from any other politician because??????
The Qin Dynasty from 221 to 206 BC burned book and scholars to remove all trace of previous dynasties. The Nazi's did it in WWII to start the 1000 reign. the greatest Library in the World at Alexander was destroyed by the Romans to show they were the be all and end all of the world. They even stole Greek religion acctually what the romans did was assimilate other cultures now no one knows what was truely Roman and what was not. Sara palin just shows how ignorant she is and unfortunatly for those of you who are American end up being brushed with her same brush. personally the Truth will always out. And this shouldn't be played with especially history.

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I will NEVER understand why people like her. I've said it before and I'll say it again, I was all set to vote for John McCain but when I discovered what a nitwit this woman is, I said, "Hell NO!" When people say she's strong enough to be President, I have to ask why she wasn't strong enough to be Governor her full term. They say it's because of mutliple lawsuits. So I ask then, how would she have handled multiple lawsuits over a birth certificate? They can't answer that she'd just release it, because Obama did and that still hasn't satisfied some loonies out there. Loonies who are supported by very rich loonies like Trump.

Palin makes my skin crawl. I wish McCain had taken Lieberman like he planned to initially. Then she'd still be a non-issue.

JuLeah - posted on 06/05/2011

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It's done all the time. History books in Southren schools differ from history book here in the North.

Christopher Columbus didn't discover America ... Lincoln never freed the slaves, never even intended to do so.

All history is creative history. The story is wirtten by the victor after all, and they will spin it to make themselves look the hero.

Palin is an idoit, to be sure, but what I find trully amazing is how many will go along with her and how many have for so long that she beieves she has this kind of power .... I know poeple that think she is brilliant - for reals as my daughter would say

ME - posted on 06/05/2011

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This is why Wikipedia isn't an acceptable source...This woman really turns my stomach...I'm not trying to be mean, I just have this visceral reaction to her face and her voice...like I used to have with president Bush, only about 50 times worse...ugh...

Jaime - posted on 06/05/2011

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Does she understand which shoe goes on which foot? Let's start there shall we?

Barb - posted on 06/05/2011

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What kills me is she has in her employ groups of people who can look up the right stuff to feed her so she can be a proper talking point. Notice the difference in the two interviews, how one was completely unprepared and what she's like prepared.

But she has people who know the truth, who could certainly inform/educate her.. give her a clue?

This tour should be an educational field trip for her, not a trip to wikipedia to make her skewed vision of America come true.

And i know you all are agreeing with me.. rewriting history just really irks me. From elementary school i learned that those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it. Well if history is changed than we don't learn from it and we will repeat it.

Rosie - posted on 06/05/2011

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OMFG, what a twit. if she is even the republican nomination i will freak out. and seriously rewriting it in wikipedia? show you what type of people follow her. jackasses, the whole lot of em.

Mrs. - posted on 06/05/2011

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Why can't she just admit she was wrong? I don't get it. Say she was distracted or on cold medication. No one is right all the time. Why go through all this effort to try to convince people that you are beyond reproach. It only makes her look more stupid.



By the way, I think she is repulsive, but I don't actually think she is stupid. I just think, at this point, she has Elvis syndrome. She's got all these people around her telling her that sequinned jumpsuit and bloated physique looks awesome on her....and she believes it. I think she is just a bit bloated with sycophants.

Tah - posted on 06/05/2011

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I think people would respect her more if she would just admit when she doesn't know something or when she has made a mistake. It doesn't make sense to rewrite history..heck you can't rewrite history. She is thee worst and it's scary that she has people so ignorant to what has gone on that they would try and re write history..

Barb - posted on 06/05/2011

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The second video didn't post, so i'll post it here This is her interview on Fox news (and i'm sorry to make anyone watch fox news, really i am)

This is the one where she defends her response:

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