cutting the wings off tinkerbell

Sal - posted on 03/05/2012 ( 50 moms have responded )

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i yesterday had one of those moments where i just had to shake my head and bite my tounge, i was at my mums group when i gave a book bag to a lady who had asked me to make one for her daughter, the bag was made from hot pink fabric with big faires on it....the mum said 'i hope her dad lets her keep it, he made me cute the wings off her tinkerbell, he does't want her to beieve in fairies' i was stunned children are just kids for such a short time, reality will kick in, she isn't going to be a 20 year old still looking under toad stools, i really just thought it was a bit ott.....

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Tam - posted on 03/06/2012

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The best thing children having is their imagination and a nigh-unbeatable sense of belief. I find it sad that many people think that using your imagination is something you only do when you're a kid, or you can't do if you want to be successful in life.



If that were the case, we'd still be back in the stone age.



Tinkerbell is not a threat to the child. Oppression of a creative outlet is.

Desiree - posted on 03/07/2012

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Sal No it isn't my sister in law is dead set against anyhting that has any hint of magic, fairies or witchcraft. She actually reminds at Christmas time and Birthdays not to give any of that kind of thing to my niece. She is 3 for heavens sake. Her excuse it's evil and against Gods law. I am still trying to see where it says in the Bible it says these things are evil. You can't even say to my niece "whats the magic word?" when refering to please and than yous. This is why I think Ne Age Charismatics are all touched in the head. Its bad enough that she freaks out about anything Catholic, never mind that she married into the Catholic Faith, but thats another story.



Life is full of magic, pity some people don't see it. I think its in the laughter of children, the sound of music, the smile of the aged and memories those are full of magic.

Kate CP - posted on 03/06/2012

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Witchcraft, or Wicca or Paganism, is a sanctified religion. Not the same thing as believing in Santa...well, maybe it is. Some people feel the same way about Christianity. *shrug*



Never mind. Carry on! :)

Isobel - posted on 03/06/2012

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I'm clapping VERY quickly right now to bring all those poor fairies back to life :D

Kate CP - posted on 03/06/2012

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Jenni: That's actually a book by a guy named Brian Froud. He is an AWESOME artist. Did the concept art on The Dark Crystal and The Labyrinth.

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Jenni - posted on 03/08/2012

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I understand where the aversion to these things came from in Biblical days. Fairies and magic were associated with heathen religions and Christianity was trying to wipe out the competition. Heathen practices were viewed as the devil's work because they were a threat. Anything that wasn't Christian (as far as religions/beliefs go) was an affront to Christianity.



But I don't see how those beliefs apply to today. Because they're not really associated with Pagan beliefs anymore but for entertainment, at least for the mainstream. Like *cough* Christmas *cough* *cough*.

♥♪Megan♫♥ - posted on 03/07/2012

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I loved She'ra there's no way she could've had the Devil inside her. Now Hordac, that's another story and much more believable

Mrs. - posted on 03/07/2012

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One of my babysitters in grade school thought the devil lived inside our He-man and She-ra toys. To each his own I guess, but why do you have to break the toys? Give them away to someone who doesn't believe that Lucifer lives in Cringer's head.

♥♪Megan♫♥ - posted on 03/07/2012

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I'm glad my parents aren't like that. My brother made up his own religion in high school called Bootieism and they just shrugged.



Oh and the pixies steal my socks and take them into their black hole in the dryer.

Stifler's - posted on 03/07/2012

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My parents are so like that. Anything that isn't in their religion is demonic or something.

Jodi - posted on 03/07/2012

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Amanda, nope...not a fairie leaving me extra socks...I'm short on socks...always. If they were leaving me extra socks, I'd have an abundance of them! I'm sticking with my sock ninja theory. lol

♥♪Megan♫♥ - posted on 03/07/2012

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Meme Winx Club is being re-done. Now Nick Canada airs it. It comes on at noon here, but it should be on at 4 where you live.



Jenni, my daughter is a Pixie- that song gets stuck in my head. She used to be a nymph, but the nymphs were nixed recently

Jenni - posted on 03/07/2012

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I started out in the Fairy group when I was in Brownies. Then they switched us around and I was placed in the Imp group... I didn't want to be no stinkin' Imp. :P

MeMe - Raises Her Hand (-_-) (Mommy Of A Toddler And Teen) - posted on 03/07/2012

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Ah Winx club! My daughter use to LOVE that show! LOL I even enjoyed it... hahaha Good stuff, for sure!

♥♪Megan♫♥ - posted on 03/07/2012

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Emma and Desiree, my paternal grandma was like that against anyone not Christian. She once told me she was 'sorry for the Muslims who don't believe in Jesus and believe they have to murder people to get into Heaven'. When she said this I was 7 months pregnant with my older daughter and driving so all I could do was look in the rear veiw mirror and tell her that she was wrong and a few other things. I felt bad for my dad though, he was in the front passenger seat and didn't quite know what to say since he didn't want to insult his mom and he couldn't really tell me to be respectful when his mom wasn't doing so.



My ex didn't want me to let our daughter believe in Santa either, but I don't know what his motive for that was seeing as he was an Athiest and had practised Wicca and Satanism while we were together. I guess becoming born again with his new wife changed all that. *shrug*



I'd like to know what that dad would do if his daughter was in Brownies. I don't know about in the US but in Canada our Brownie troops have circles and the circle groups are things such as Sprites, Fairies and Pixies. I let my daughter watch Winx Club too and there are a lot of fairies in that show.

Desiree - posted on 03/07/2012

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Emma is the the usual rhetoric, not scriptural, whores of Babylon is my favorite, idol worship amoung other things. Her words to me once was she did not need to tolerate anyone, not Jews, Catholics,or Muslims as they were all wrong and she is right after all she is deacon. Hmm don't you love religious nutters.

Amanda - posted on 03/07/2012

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*off topic* As for the sock monsters, did anyone consider its a sock fairy, that isnt taking one sock, but actually leaving you an extra sock? (my 14 year old asked me this the other day)

Jenni - posted on 03/07/2012

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Emma, my grandmother is the same way about "the Catholics".



And... I love magic, mystery and pretend. I wish I still had the innocence to believe in fairies and Santa Clause.

Stifler's - posted on 03/06/2012

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Just like it's fun to sing songs about Santa and flying reindeer etc. but I didn't really ever believe in them.

Stifler's - posted on 03/06/2012

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What I sort of meant is that if kids watch a Disney movie with fairies or have a toy it doesn't mean that they always believe there are really fairies. Sorry.

Aleks - posted on 03/06/2012

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@Emma

You said: "Do kids literally believe in fairies? No...."

And that is why I said what I did.

It was not a lecture but more arguing against that statement. I think that kids (and many adults as well) believe literally in fairies (and other things). They are not pretending to believe or they are make-believeing. Yes, some kids may be, but there are plenty that actually, literally believe.

Sorry if it "sounded" like a lecture, didn't mean it that way.



@ Kate,

Sorry..... ooops, I did not mean to make witchcraft and Santa like the same thing... oh, dear. That was kind of wrongly worded.



What I meant was that it is magic/magical (just like Santa is for kids, I guess).

Does that make any sense.... (and yes, plenty of people do not believe it/in it, and plenty people make fun of it too, just like they do for fairies/faeries and anything else that is not all that tangible to most people).

Isobel - posted on 03/06/2012

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I didn't see any lectures.



anyhoo, Kate...my brother is an artist, and when Eve was born I asked him if he could paint me a mural with nice fairies in it for Eve's room, his exact words: No. Faeries aren't nice.



so I had to paint it with grass and a sky with clouds...no faeries

Jennifer - posted on 03/06/2012

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Hmm, I don't like Tinkerbelle, or Disney in general really, but that's a bit far. I just don't think it is a bad thing to think for awhile that fairies are real. A few people make good livings writing stories and games about them.



As to believing in them as an adult, people tell me I must all the time. I am a Christian, after all! LOL

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That's just bizarre. So what is it OK for her to "believe" in? Barney? Diego? Dora? Disney Princesses?

Stifler's - posted on 03/06/2012

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I didn't say it wasn't ok :| I said I didn't believe in fairies but still enjoyed fairytales and that cutting the wings off because he didn't want his kid to believe was over the top.

Isobel - posted on 03/06/2012

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I've made that argument before, that people really do believe in fairies and therefore it was a valid comparison...people didn't like it.

Aleks - posted on 03/06/2012

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Emma,



Some do. And THAT IS OK.

Nearly all small kids believe in Santa Clause (well where it is culturally accepted). And that is fine. Its the same with fairies. And any other "mythical" creature.



By the way, there a plenty of apparently sane adults that also believe in fairies. That is ok too.



What is wrong in believing in a bit of magic? Makes life a bit more bareble I think. No, I don't believe in fairies or Santa...lol But I totally don't begrudge those that do.



There are people who believe and practice witchcraft, etc

Its the same thing....

Stifler's - posted on 03/06/2012

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Do kids literally believe in fairies? No. I never did but I still loved fairytales. Way over the top.

Jenni - posted on 03/06/2012

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Kate: I have a few totally kick ass evil, faerie books. I forget the name of the one but in it this girl finds faeries in her back yard. At first she is totally awestruck until they start attacking her and ruining her life, she becomes on the verge of being committed by her grandma. She goes around squishing the faeries to make a pressed faerie book.

Jenni - posted on 03/06/2012

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Me Me- Thunder for me was my ancestors bowling in Heaven. Family members who passed on before I was born. I found it very comforting and it helped me to get over my fear of thunderstorms. I'd sit there and say: Great Grandpa got a strike! For the really loud ones.

Jenni - posted on 03/06/2012

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I'm also not into toys, movies that emphasize physical beauty for girls. Society as a whole already puts far too much emphasis on physical beauty for women. And personally, I find it highly sexist and oppressive. But I'm not interested in sheltering my girls either. It's there, it's real and they need to be talked to about it. I don't buy toys that amplify these values but then again, my girls are pretty young. Other people sometimes buy them for them, and sometimes I cringe a little.



But as far as girl's merchandise goes. Tinkerbell is pretty low on the totem pole. I like how she's evolved from a jealously, possessive ex girlfriend of Peter Pan to a thrifty, independent, tinkerer. The modern Tinkerbell and friends movie is about discovering your talent and finding your function in society. I can live with that.



I still get giddy when I see fairies.

MeMe - Raises Her Hand (-_-) (Mommy Of A Toddler And Teen) - posted on 03/06/2012

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When I was a kid I totally believed that when you put a cassette into the player, a wee miniature band popped out and played the music, while IN the tape player. I also believed that when it rained the angels were washing the floor and when it thundered God was stomping because he was giving the angels crap! (I don't believe in God anymore, or Heaven but hey, it was fun!) I use to believe that if I crawled into my secret crawl space I was entering another world and no one could ever get me there. I also use to believe that when I went to sleep all my dolls would wake up and play with each other... It was so awesome being a kid!



OK, I think I am going to go pretend I am a millionaire now!

Kate CP - posted on 03/06/2012

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I believe in faeries, actually. But not the cute ones you see in fairy tales and Tinkerbell. No...faeries are evil little shits hell bent on making life miserable. Cute? Yea. Evil? HELL YES.



I hate faeries. Demonic little bugs. :P

Sal - posted on 03/05/2012

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ohhh and apart from his odd idea i was offeded that his wife just did it....she sees no harm but done it anyway...i would of told my hubby where he could stick his rediculous ideas.....that and any offending fairy wings..

Sal - posted on 03/05/2012

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yep definatly a sock theif, i will buy 6 pairs the same thinking even if i lose one i'll still have pairs but they are all stretched differently faded differently so still look odd...

and fairies are just real in my house, my 4 year old sees them as a career path, and my neice wants to be a mermaid when she grows up...

Johnny - posted on 03/05/2012

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The sasquatch that lives in the woods behind my house steals my socks. You can see him running around the trails early in the morning with mismatched socks.

Jodi - posted on 03/05/2012

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I totally used to believe a gremil lived in the closet in my closet. I also believed in Santa Clause, the Easter Bunny, the Tooth Fairy and humanity. I have since grown up (that last one's a joke btw!).



And there is no sock gnome...it's a sock ninja...too sneaky to be a gnome. My twins' socks have all disapeared...but now I am finding baby socks that went missing eons ago...in the wash...dirty bastard.

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eh, i still believe there be dragons in my parents' woods. not like it causes me to be less of a human being. and hell yeah there's a freaking sock gnome! i fricking believe it because i just bought some socks and washed them and can't find a damn one of them! SIX PAIR!!! just gone!

Johnny - posted on 03/05/2012

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When I was a kid I was convinced that the Count from Sesame Street ran the world from behind a giant synthesizer (it was the 80's). Sometimes when shit is going sideways for no apparent reason, I still have my suspicions.



I'm not a fan of things for girls that focus on beauty and looks over character and substance. I avoid Barbie. I was not thrilled when my niece gave my daughter a Tinkerbell video, but I let her watch it and sat with her. I was pleasantly surprised. It was all about resourcefulness and perseverance, I thought it taught excellent lessons with a fun, fanciful, child-centric wonder.

Jenni - posted on 03/05/2012

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So ummmm tell her they're just pretend?



Dude, I use to believe if I walked through the cubby to my crawlspace at just the right time of day and if I truly believed... I'd end up in Narnia.



I also believed that the part of my tv where a magnet was placed and the tv glowed even after you turned it off... was a ghost.



I didn't exactly need special props to believe in stuff that wasn't real... I just made that shit up. That's what kids do.

They PRETEND.



I doubt she's going to reach 16 and still believe she'll one day sprout wings, fly towards the second star to the right and straight on till morning to fight pirates and swim with mermaids.



Ok, I'll admit... I still wonder if there is a laundry gnome who lives under my dryer and steals a sock from each pair. They both go in the washing machine... but only 1 comes out!!?

Sal - posted on 03/05/2012

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ohh my the poor bugger would just flip his top if someone gave his daughter one of them....

Kate CP - posted on 03/05/2012

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I'm cool with Tinkerbell...it's Barbie that drives me bat shit. My daughter recently got THIS little number for her birthday.



Yes, Barbie has hooker-heels and in order to make her expose her fairy wings you twist her around so her arms open up her skirt.



http://www.amazon.com/Barbie-Secret-Fash...



WHO THINKS UP THIS SHIT?!

MeMe - Raises Her Hand (-_-) (Mommy Of A Toddler And Teen) - posted on 03/05/2012

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A bit disturbing... Kids deserve to be kids! Although, some do still wear their Tinker Bell back packs in grade 9! I am sure they don't believe in fairies though. It is just the "cool" thing to do.



I much prefer that then the Iron Maiden (skeleton with fire coming out of his mouth) patch that covered the entire back of my jean jacket and was pinned on with over 100 saftey pins, when I was in grade 7! LMAO I'll take Tinker Bell over that ANY day... heheehee



Let the kids be kids. They need imagination to develop. Poor kid!

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